Caribbean IQ Scores

S. Lucia                 62
Dominica                 67
St. Vincent & Grenadines 71
Jamaica                  71.5
Barbados                 79
Dominican Republic       82* 
Cuba                     85** 
Bahamas                  93
Bermuda                  100***

*Dominican Republic is 20% White
**The Cuban genome is 50% White
***Bermuda genome is 45% White

Those scores do not make a  whole lot of sense. They are all over the place. The median score is 79. The mode is 71. The average is as same as the median at 79. That is a very low score, but it is not as low as Africa. The 62 and 67 scores are terrible. Only African and Caribbean Blacks seem to score in the 60’s (Papuans, Aborigines and Gypsies do also). If someone can find me a non-Black group or nation anywhere that scores in the 60’s, I want to see that score. If any group is regularly scoring in the 60’s, something is wrong with them.

On the other hand, we also have some quite high scores. Cuba scores only as high as US Blacks, yet Cuba is 50% White on genes. US Blacks are performing better than Cubans. In fact, US Blacks perform better than not only Cubans, but also the Dominican Republic, Barbados, St. Lucia, Dominica, St. Vincent and the Grenadines,  and Jamaica. US Blacks do have a bit more White in them 25%, but not much more. Jamaicans are 9% White. The additional White admixture in US Blacks is not nearly enough to explain their higher scores vis a vis Jamaica, Dominica, St. Lucia and St. Vincent and the Grenadines. These scores do not make sense in terms of hard HBD theory.

At the other hand, we have unexpected high scores in the Bahamas and Bermuda. The Bermudan genome is 45% White, but that should not be enough to get the score up to 100. By hard HBD theory, the score should only go up to perhaps 90 at most. Bermuda had four prior tests around 90-93, which seems to make a lot more sense such that hard HBD’ers like Jason Molloy are throwing out the 100 score as anomalous. At any rate, Bermuda is the highest scoring half-Black nation on Earth, scoring the same as the average White score. That right there is a blow to hard HBD theory.

The Bahamas also has an unexpectedly high score. The Bahamas is 87% Black. How is it that an almost all Black nation scores 93 on an IQ test? That doesn’t seem to make sense either by hard HBD theory.

The Bahamas and Bermuda are both quite wealthy which may explain the higher scores.

To sum up, the Caribbean is an odd place, with two of the highest Black IQ scores on Earth combined with some abysmally low scores down in the 60’s that seem to low to even be possible.

IQ-wise, the Caribbean doesn’t seem to make much sense, but there are a number of instances in this region that are impossible to explain by hard HBD theory.

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67 responses to “Caribbean IQ Scores

  1. Jason Y

    Day o Day o. Don’t feel like coming me wanna go home. 😆

    Cuba scores only as high as US Blacks, yet Cuba is 50% White on genes.

    it’s still better than the other places, which shows emphasizing education and healthcare works.

    As far as Bermuda goes, the incredibly high score is due to the small size, which means the government can focus the tourist dollars on education. Not sure what’s going on in the Bahamas.

    • Jason Y

      The Bahamas and Bermuda are both quite wealthy which may explain the higher scores.

      So money does make a difference, but note the larger the island is, then the more difficult it is to do effective social spending.

      if money makes a difference then all hootin and hollerin over at Stormfront is BS. I wonder what excuse they give for these findings?

    • Dave Mowers

      Or…the Arawak Indians.

      Who dominated the American seas and were exterminated by Hispanic psychopaths. 2 million killed….2 million. You think Hispanics didn’t rape the women when they were enslaving and murdering them?

  2. Jason Y

    No shit that more money, assuming that money is going toward education, is going to improve IQ scores. Plus as we can see, if you give enough money to the right kind of blacks, then the IQ goes up. So much it equals whites and northeast Asians.

    • EPGAH

      Then how do you explain that America spends the MOST per student of ALL COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, and we’re still behind?

  3. While I can’t speak for other nations in this list a specifically has with the Bahamas, the Bahamas in comparison enjoys higher standards of living and reducing poverty so in terms of socioeconimcs it make sense.

  4. How many IQ tests is it based on? Sample sizes? Representativeness? What particular test were they administering (Raven’s, verbal, Draw a Man)? etc, etc. Usually Lynn’s/Vanhanen’s results for any one small and/or poor country are not very reliable – i.e., most of the Caribbean ones. They are useful primarily when aggregated or at least in relation to more prominent and frequently tested countries.

    • I do not know. I only know that in Bermuda, there were five different tests done.

      • Panda@War

        Apart from the tests themselves, another area for possible large fluctuations in the region: potentially under-reported East Asian blood? e.g. Jayman. What type of race you think he gonna fill in for his IQ test? Black? Half-Black, half-White?

        • Jason Y

          Apart from the tests themselves, another area for possible large fluctuations in the region: potentially under-reported East Asian blood?

          I don’t think so. I think HBDers are stretching things to try to still prove their views are correct.

  5. swank

    The Bermudan genome is 45% White

    Wrong. The only data point with a black sample:

    “For Bahamas and Bermudas, a 13% European ancestry was documented in British African-Caribbeans.”
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-3156.2005.01441.x/full#ss14

    Data points in the Caribbean:

    “Here we used a panel of 28 AIMs to examine the genetic ancestry of 298 individuals of African descent from the Caribbean islands of Jamaica, St. Thomas and Barbados. Differences in global admixture were observed, with Barbados having the highest level of West African ancestry (89.6%+/- 2.0) and the lowest levels of European (10.2%+/- 2.2) and Native American ancestry (0.2%+/- 2.0), while Jamaica possessed the highest levels of European (12.4%+/- 3.5) and Native American ancestry (3.2%+/- 3.1). St. Thomas, USVI had ancestry levels quite similar to African Americans in continental U.S. (86.8%+/- 2.2 West African, 10.6%+/- 2.3 European, and 2.6%+/- 2.1 Native American).”
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17908263

    They are more less like African Americans. The only data points you have are from mixed Bermudians or natives.

    R.I.P. HBD

    • swank

      Of course, the rest of this post’s “consternation” also was pointed out by none other than yours truly:

      There’s no explanation for why populations with greater white admixture score lower than Bermudan blacks. No explanation for the fact that the admixture hypothesis itself isn’t even supported by what few experiments there are on the subject.

      /yawnswankisright

    • swank

      Robert not too long ago: When are you going to create this Superenvironment in which Blacks match Whites on IQ in the US, UK, Africa or even most of the Caribbean

      ALSO stated by yours truly: in Bermuda they likely aren’t and a big difference — as usual — is wealth and income.

      Robert now: The Bahamas and Bermuda are both quite wealthy which may explain the higher scores.

      lol

      • Really not enjoying your snide tone here Swank.

        Comments Rules say you can be banned for “hostile tone” and that’s exactly what you are doing here. Watch it.

      • swank

        Let me rephrase then:

        for all the names you have called me and the misattributions of my statements, it certainly seems like you are slowly realizing that I am correct.

        • Toe Jam Football

          To swank:

          misattributions of my statements..

          Pot meet Kettle..? You’ve done this repeatedly with our discussion over Michael Brown’s death. I’m fine with people having a reasonable discussion and disagreeing, and perhaps you are not fully aware of it, but you have repeatedly made snarky and condescending comments along with multiple logical fallacies.

        • swank

          No, I haven’t misattributed anything to you.

          You tried to conflate guilt by association with reasonable induction. And you tried to conflate a counter-insult with ad hominem.

          The snark and condescension is earned honestly, boiling down to your willful ignorance regarding the extremely bizarre police procedure and grand jury procedure along with the questionable aspects of Wilson’s story. You treat it as no big deal or having no impact on the true factual circumstances that could underlie the shooting.

    • You are WRONG Swank. I am not trying to say what % White or what % Black the Black Bermudians are. The latest results were the same for both Blacks and Whites on the island so I lumped them both together.

      The National Geographic group went all over the islands taking samples from mixed groups. Obviously this means various samples from various places containing Blacks, Whites, Mixed, Amerindians and Other. There’s no other way to read the data. Obviously they didn’t go all over the island looking for people called “mixed” because that’s only a small group and they don’t identify like that, they just checked it on a census form.

      The result is for the entire genome of the country.

      The study above is only for Black Bermudians. I reject it’s findings because they are senseless. My position is I do not know how White or how Black Bermudian Blacks are.

      But we know what the genome for the entire nation looks like. I have a paper on Bermudian genetics from the same people that did the Nat Geo study and they reference over and over the figures and refer to them as representing the genome of the entire population, then comparing it to other islands. They didn’t break it down by group.

      • swank

        They reference a heterogeneous population; that’s it. At best your data point is ambiguous. It could be whites and blacks randomly sampled on the island, it could be blacks, it could be mixed — you don’t know.

        I have the only data on point —- a BLACK sample.

        The other blacks in the region show SIMILAR admixture.

        • Toe Jam Football

          To swank:

          They reference a heterogeneous population; that’s it. At best your data point is ambiguous.

          You cited a single sample of black British people of both Bahamanian and Bermudan origin. The Bahamas has 8.75 times as many blacks as Bermuda, if that ratio is kept for migration from the respective islands to Britain then genetic background for Bahamians becomes predominant.

          The other blacks in the region show SIMILAR admixture.

          Yes for some of the islands no for others.. if Dominicans defined themselves in a similar fashion to US blacks you would have a predominantly black nation with high levels of European admixture. Not sure why this came about but there is plenty of discussion on various board about the Dominican attitudes towards race. Trujillo, a long running dictator who despised the notion of running a black nation. In the Dominican Republic people often call themselves mixed or even white whereas if that person had grown up in the US with American parents they would be inclined to call themselves black. At least what I have read, black Bermudans follow the US model in that a person with some African background but with fairly substantial European admixture generally identifies as black.

          That said using the super scientific process of searching for photographs of Bermudian women on the internet. I suspect the European admixture of blacks in Bermuda is similar to the US.

          http://www.royalgazette.com/storyimage/RG/20130510/NEWS/705109930/AR/0/AR-705109930.jpg&Logo=/images/rglogo1.gif&LogoXPos=0&LogoYPos=290&maxw=630&maxh=350

        • swank

          I never said my data point was perfect, only that it was the best data point available. You can speculate about the migrants and the ratios all you want. The entire admixture argument is based on an unproven and likely false hypothesis anyway.

        • You cited a single sample of black British people of both Bahamanian and Bermudan origin. The Bahamas has 8.75 times as many blacks as Bermuda, if that ratio is kept for migration from the respective islands to Britain then genetic background for Bahamians becomes predominant.

          Sure if there were far more Bahamians than Bermudans, it makes sense. 13% White for Bermuda is insanity. That would mean that US Blacks are twice as White as Bermudans.

          I suspect the European admixture of blacks in Bermuda is similar to the US.

          I doubt it. If you go to Wikipedia and read about Bermudan Blacks, the one thing you hear endlessly is how mixed they are. People have been saying this about the Bermudans for centuries.

          I have a paper here from a peer reviewed journal that says that Bermudan Blacks are the most mixed Blacks in the Northern Hemisphere.

          When you read about US Blacks, do you see endless references to how White they are? Heck no.

          Judging from that alone, I would say Bermudan Blacks are probably quite a bit more White than US Blacks.

        • swank

          13% White for Bermuda is insanity. That would mean that US Blacks are twice as White as Bermudans.

          The only point is that they are more or less like AA.

          I have a paper here from a peer reviewed journal that says that Bermudan Blacks are the most mixed Blacks in the Northern Hemisphere.

          Quote and link it, please.

          When you read about US Blacks, do you see endless references to how White they are? Heck no.

          Uh….yes? That’s been one of the big talking points about AA admixture. The numbers range from 65-80%.

  6. Stary Wylk

    Perhaps the apparent problem is from looking at smaller groups as if they were just samples from larger groups. Maybe the blacks who came to the Bahamas were just smarter than most. The Cuban whites are mainly of Spanish descent and probably chiefly from one part of Spain. The Castros’ father was from Galicia, north of Portugal. The great majority of Chinese in the U.S. trace back to ten counties in one province, Guangdong.

    • Jason Y

      erhaps the apparent problem is from looking at smaller groups as if they were just samples from larger groups. Maybe the blacks who came to the Bahamas were just smarter than most.

      It would be interesting to see if you can prove that. Bahamas? From what I know, as in Bermuda, the settlers were just “run of the mill” slaves, not really expected to be smarter.

  7. Beltway

    What are the population samples on these tests, and how do they ensure it’s a good representation of the overall country?

    • Why is it important? I do not know much about the testing in each case. Even the worst “unrepresentative sample” in a normal country should never give a score in the 60’s. It doesn’t make sense.

      Generally these studies are published in peer reviewed academic journals and are done by people who specialize in doing such tests, so they should be pretty good at it.

  8. SHI

    Damn those niggaz are some dimbulbs..but I have doubts on the validity of these scores. You see a lot of those people originating in the 60 and 70 IQ score countries are smart in their own way. They can talk a big game, make excellent salesmen as they’ll convince you to buy shit you don’t need, and con you out of your hard-earned money. Fairly intelligent, high IQ people fall for the sly tricks pulled by these Afro con artistes.

    • Jason Y

      Damn those niggaz are some dimbulbs..but I have doubts on the validity of these scores. You see a lot of those people originating in the 60 and 70 IQ score countries are smart in their own way. They can talk a big game, make excellent salesmen as they’ll convince you to buy shit you don’t need, and con you out of your hard-earned money. Fairly intelligent, high IQ people fall for the sly tricks pulled by these Afro con artistes.

      Except the ones on Bermuda and in the Bahamas are really intellegent.

      • Toe Jam Football

        Other elements of living in the Bahamas would give me pause, the murder rate is 30 per 100,000 people which compares not so favorably to 4.5 per 100,000 for the US. (Redneck state West Virginia is 3 per 100,000 and mormonville land – Utah is 1.9 / 100k , shit kicker Wyoming is 1.4 /100K , potato ville Idaho 1.3 per 100,000)

    • We had a bunch of West Africans, mostly Nigerians, in a Yahoo group, and my perception was they were dumb as rocks. I honestly thought most of them were retarded. That’s how dumb they were. We also had many US Blacks, and the US Blacks and the Africans were like people from two different planets. The US Blacks were so much smarter and better behaved it was amazing. People keep saying this group was biased because they were criminal Internet scammers, but hardly any of these people were professional crooks. One was, a real pond scum running a fake charity in Africa. So many West Africans run fake charities on the Net, you would not believe it. Nevertheless, all these regular Nigerians were scammy in a sense that they were all just trying to get something out of us, a White wife or mostly just money with a million lame excuses on why they needed it.

      The same group of West Africans I felt were dumb as doorknobs were absolutely brilliant at reading people, social skills, manipulation, imitating emotions, being impostors, thinking on their feet, and just generally being some of the most brilliant con artists you have ever met. Genius con artists and dumb as rocks. I don’t get it either.

      • EPGAH

        EQ>IQ for a conartist, and besides, smart people make better marks because of their own overconfidence they’re too smart to be fooled, right?

        Nigeria is STILL the only country with a crime named after it, AND the only country whose Government OPENLY PROTECTS Internet scammers and hackers. China has at least pretended to crack down on theirs! WINK!

        • Jason Y

          Nigeria is STILL the only country with a crime named after it, AND the only country whose Government OPENLY PROTECTS Internet scammers and hackers. China has at least pretended to crack down on theirs! WINK!

          If Nigerians can successfully scam westerners, then might really be smart.

        • EPGAH

          No, they just play on the biggest weakness whites have, whether cultural or genetic: Altruism. We feel sorry for stupid people, try to help them. We’ve tried to help Blacks in Africa for 400 years, and the ones here in the States for 150-200, depending where you want to start the clock.

          If failing for several centuries to get freebies is smart, then indeed, they’re the smartest entities in the world. But what happens when we’re fed up with supporting these “smart” Omegas?

  9. swank

    But this is from renorming a sample from when the island was backwards; the true scores have a white mean at around 75 or so. These scores were obtained by setting that as IQ 100.

  10. Erik Sieven

    The only countries in the list with at least a 500.000 people have IQ´s in the expected range. Bahamas and Bermuda are really interesting data points but it would probably a bit risky building up a theory based on those two outliers. The case of Black British IQ instead is in my impression a far stronger argument against racial IQ differences.
    But really, IQ is only one aspect of HBD. Maybe there are no racial IQ differences, and maybe black countries catch up IQ-wise with white countries (well there will be probably no white countries 50 years only pure black countries and part-black, part-other countries) some things will stay the same. For example western women will never consider going on sex tourist trip to Cambodia instead of Jamaica or Ghana.

    • EPGAH

      Thing is, won’t that mean the whole world dumbs down, there will be no new world-shaking inventions like plastic or Velcro, only new “convenience” inventions like the IPad pillow and the Snackeez?
      Oh, and don’t forget the EGG-CRACKER!

      Seriously, though, the overreproduction of the stupid, and our culture no longer chastising or punishing but lauding and rewarding it creates a bad feedback loop…

  11. Latias

    As an anti-capitalist, I feel embarrassed by Cuba’s low IQ score. On the other hand, Cuba has a PPP GDP per capita of $20,122 according to the World Bank, with a GDP of $6,848.2. I wonder why the GDP deflator is so favorable to Cuba, maybe it values public education and health more highly than the CIA fact book that gives it a GDP PPP of 10,000.

    http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD
    http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.KD

    Well, if those low IQ scores are correct, and hopefully there are not an indicator of their genetic potential, it would show the power of socialism.

  12. Latias

    Off topic, what do people think about Rwandian Genocide revisionism? Particularly the claim that the RPF, led by Paul Kagame, was responsible for a significant portion (say 25->50% of the deaths from the Genocide). In other words, more Hutu died than the conventional accounts claim.

    • EPGAH

      To me, it was just more proof of my idea that savages can’t keep a country working. As soon as the adults left, the savages resumed killing each other.

      Then once their country is sufficiently fucked up, they want to come to America or the European country of your choice, and fuck THAT up the same way?
      I say “HELL NO”, but words don’t matter to savages…and of course, if we shoot these invaders, WE are the bad guys, not them, right?

      • Jason Y

        Though it it’s racist to say this, some groups do better being watched over by smarter people. That’s not saying Africans can’t improve their IQ, only that in thier current state they would do better in the west. Nonetheless, the west, obviously, cannot handle more immigrants.

        Blacks who were enslaved and brought to the US, over time, got tremendous advantages over blacks back home, even with all the beatings etc.. Plus their ancestors got even more massive advantages.

        • Jason Y

          Being a parasite, which is a dirty word among white nationalists, is actually a good way to survive. Why not? Who wouldn’t like to be a butler or housecleaner for the rich?

        • swank

          LOL

          The people who are “watching over” others aren’t the smartest.

        • EPGAH

          Swank: Well, that depends on your definitions. “The West” — white countries, for lack of a better word — have turned out WAY better than nonwhite countries. The only way we’re not smarter is the current push to let in those who fucked up their own countries, and pretending they’re in any way our equals, rather than saying, “You can come in, but you’ll have to ditch your attitudes at the door and EARN your equality to us!”

          Jason: What you described is not a parasite, but a helper. Indeed, if more nonwhites were to resign themselves to a servitor role in their betters’ countries, we wouldn’t NEED this little discussion!
          Where was Black Crime before the Civil War? Where were the burnt down cities?

          A parasite is something like this video:

          What does she provide except more of herself?
          Why is her breeding 0% our control, 0% our business, but 100% our financial responsibility?
          Why doesn’t someone force her and her brood to clean something? Other than the fear that much of the merchandise within might get taken, I mean!

      • Jason Y

        EPGAH,

        Didn’t the Nazis mass murder Russian civilians or shoot whole towns for breaking their rules? Why is mass murder limited to blacks?

  13. Steve

    You shouldn’t draw a definite conclusion about the Bermudan IQ based on one study.

  14. Jm8

    A more accurate score for Jamaica seems be around 81 . The scores of th samples reviewed below, range a lot. While some are very low, the highest three of them (of adults) were in mid to high nineties. The variation may relate to regional differences in prosperity and living standards (and cultural modernity) which(I believe) also show a lot of contrast there. Lynn’s estimate apparently to excluded higher figures without good reason.

    http://humanvarieties.org/2013/03/01/hvgiq-jamaica/

    • Jm8

      correction:
      The scores of the sample groups reviewed below, range a lot. While some are very low, the highest three sample groups (all adults) were in mid to high nineties.

  15. Toe Jam Football

    To Rob:

    Are you familiar with the silver fox study started in 1959 in the Soviet Union? The premise was to see if wild foxes could be bred to behave like domesticated dogs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox

    “Belyaev believed that the key factor selected for in the domestication of dogs was not size or reproduction, but behavior; specifically, tameability. Since behavior is rooted in biology, selecting for tameness and against aggression, means selecting for physiological changes in the systems that govern the body’s hormones and neurochemicals. Belyaev decided to test his theory by domesticating foxes; in particular, the silver fox, a dark color form of the red fox. He placed a population of them under strong selection pressure for inherent tameness.” As Lyudmila Trut says in her 1999 American Scientist article, The least domesticated foxes, those that flee from experimenters or bite when stroked or handled, are assigned to Class III. Foxes in Class II let themselves be petted and handled but show no emotionally friendly response to experimenters. Foxes in Class I are friendly toward experimenters, wagging their tails and whining. In the sixth generation bred for tameness we had to add an even higher-scoring category. Members of Class IE, the “domesticated elite,” are eager to establish human contact, whimpering to attract attention and sniffing and licking experimenters like dogs. They start displaying this kind of behavior before they are one month old. By the tenth generation, 18 percent of fox pups were elite; by the 20th, the figure had reached 35 percent. Today elite foxes make up 70 to 80 percent of our experimentally selected population.

    Belyaev and Trut believe that selecting for tameness mimics the natural selection that must have occurred in the ancestral past of dogs, and more than any other quality, must have determined how well an animal would adapt to life among humans.

    The result is that Russian scientists now have a number of domesticated foxes that are fundamentally different in temperament and behavior from their wild forebears. Some important changes in physiology and morphology are now visible, such as mottled or spotted colored fur. Many scientists believe that these changes related to selection for tameness are caused by lower adrenaline production in the new breed, causing physiological changes in very few generations and thus yielding genetic combinations not present in the original species. This indicates that selection for tameness (i.e. low flight distance) produces changes that are also influential on the emergence of other “dog-like” traits, such as raised tail and coming into heat every six months rather than annually. These seemingly unrelated changes are a result of pleiotropy. The project also investigated breeding vicious foxes to study aggressive behavior. These foxes snap at humans and otherwise show no fear. Similar research was carried out in Denmark with American mink.”

  16. Toe Jam Football

    To Rob:

    Where did you get the data for racial admixture for Bermuda..? FWIW this man states that he is African American, his father was black/mixed man from Bermuda and his mother was mixed race from the US:

    Pretty sure in the dead of winter I am darker than the fellow above, if the photo is accurate.

  17. Toe Jam Football

    To swank:

    No, I haven’t misattributed anything to you.
    Simply false, a third party can look at our posts on the Michael Brown thread and make a judgement.

    You tried to conflate guilt by association with reasonable induction.
    You used guilt by association as a form of argumentation,
    which is a form of inductive reasoning

    And you tried to conflate a counter-insult with ad hominem.
    No you used ad hominem then tried to explain it as a counter insult when I wasn’t even insulting you.

    The snark and condescension is earned honestly, boiling down to your willful ignorance regarding..
    And once again more ad hominem

    the extremely bizarre police procedure
    You treat it as no big deal or having no impact on the true factual circumstances that could underlie the shooting.

    And that remains your sole argument.. and how well are you versed in police procedure..? Are you a police officer, a defense lawyer…?

    Per a veteran SFPD officer: Sure mistakes were made (with the prime responsibility for escorting Darren Wilson back to the station and checking in the gun..) more common than they should be in smaller towns were police shootings rarely occur. But Wilson could have been exonerated by credible witness statements alone.


    and grand jury procedure along with the questionable aspects of Wilson’s story.

    I replied to every one of your claims that Wilson’s story was questionable.. you don’t have to accept it but the grand jury and the DOJ did.

  18. Man of Sin

    The Ashkenazi Jews IQ blow hard HBD away as well. They are of an admixture of Middle Eastern and European genetics and their IQ average blow both those populations’ away.

    • DataExplorer

      How does that blow away HBD? A genetically isolated population group that have evolved high IQ over just 2 millennia, surely that supports HBD?

  19. Jason Y

    IQ gap between US blacks and white lowered until the 1960s.

  20. Dominican Republic is 52.15% European, not 20%.

  21. J F

    This is all caused by the Flynn Effect. Blacks in Bermuda have had more free market capitalism than other Blacks, which causes increases in IQs over generations. Its always why Texan blacks have an IQ in the 90s compared to blacks in Mississippi, no slavery.

  22. DataExplorer

    Dominicans (i.e. people from Dominican Republic) are obviously not 20% European, that would make them less European than African Americans which everybody knows from just looking at them they are much less African than African Americans. The Middle Class in DR look like generic Latinos. According to Wikipedia, Dominicans are genetically 52% Euro, 40% African, and 8% Native American.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_of_the_Dominican_Republic#Genetics_and_ethnicities

  23. Jm8

    Interestingly, a new study by David Becker (with data mostly—but not entirely—derived from reanalyzing Lynn’s data) now finds a higher IQ score for Barbados (IQ 93) than that Lynn originally claimed/reported.

    Barbados is pretty Black, about as Black as the Bahamas ancestrally (the people average about 87% African or so). It also finds about the same scores for the Bahamas in another study as here (91 for groups of Black Bahamians), and 94 for Bermuda (though it does not seem to factor in the larger and more recent study from Bermuda that Jason Malloy discussed and that you reference here above, that finds the higher Bermudian IQ score of ca 98-100, but rather—being mostly based on reanalyses of Lynn’s data—only uses the somewhat older scores/prior tests from there from the earlier data you mention,—and thus is not representative of more current/recent, and higher Bermudan scores).

    The higher score for Barbados does seem to make sense given some of the country’s other indicators (like the Bahamas and Bermuda, Barbados has relatively high living standards, education, wealth/GDP, etc.—Barbados also has a relatively low crime rate for a new world Black country, or for a Caribbean country, and is said to be more civilized than most in the region). Chuck/John Fuerst has also told me that the GRE and GMAT scores from there are also pretty good (I think I might see if I can find some of those if I can)

    (The scores below link: Becker’s reanalysis scores are under the “DB” column in the sections labelled “Favorites” and “National” at bottom of the google spreadsheet, the rest of the columns there (at favorites/national) being various (variously weighed) averages of his analyses with Lynn’s older ones (manual in second link). For some countries, like the Bahamas, Lynn did not actually have specific country data, but estimated and assigned a score based on those of neighboring countries—as Jason Malloy explains in his Humanvarieties Bahamas iq entry).

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3c4TxciNeJZWUx5bzBWZ1BuMUk/view

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3c4TxciNeJZWC1tM3RMQmhKUW8/view

    A most recent study finds 87% African for Barbados (consistent with previous studies, and close to results from Jamaica, the Bahamas, and elsewhere in the British and French Caribbean).
    ‘Estimated African ancestry ranges from virtually 0 (Maya) to 0.87 (Barbados) in all the analysed populations.”

    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms7596

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