Robert, what are the definitions of the terms sexual grooming and molestation, as used in your post? As per the definitions I’ve come across, it’s very possible to groom at 15 year old girl and molest both a 15 year old girl and a 30 year old women. A 15 year old girl would simply not posses enough social experiences to distinguish the interaction with a regular older male and one who is attracted to her.
The ones who may not have experienced that much would not be able to tell the latter is approaching her with longer term or sexual interest in her, and therefore she would associate with him as she would with someone else and let down her guard without having complete knowledge and understanding the implications of what she is getting into.
Considering that, it’s completely possible to groom a 15 year old. There are of course, a lot of girls at 15 who are as perfectly capable as a girl at 21. But I’m not sure even 20 or 30% of the girls at 15 are mature enough.
Well then, let me ask you something. Would a 15 year old girl have the experience to be able to tell if a boy her age is approaching her with longer term or sexual interest in her and therefore she would associate with him as she would with someone else and let down her guard, without having complete knowledge and understanding the implications of what she is getting into? You say she is Little Miss Naivete. If so, why wouldn’t a slick teenage boy be able to groom her as well?
I myself had sex with a number of 15 year old girls when I was between the ages of 18-20. Believe me, they knew what they were doing. They pretty much seduced me in most cases.
No how is it that a 30 year old woman can be molested again?
I think this whole thing is making a mountain out of a molehill. In the past few towns I have lived in, you honestly cannot even talk to underage girls ever. People will get pretty upset if they even see you talking to them.
I learned this the hard way because I have always talked to everyone my whole life, and I am comfortable around kids as I was a schoolteacher for years. So at the local coffee shop, when I was 45 or 46 years old, I would try to make conversation with some of the teenage girls in line or when they were putting milk and sugar in their coffee just like I have done my whole life.
Well, after a while, these idiot kids started calling me “molester” apparently for doing nothing other than that. Then I figured out that it’s not ok for a man of that age my age (I was 47 when I finally figured this out) to talk to teenage girls without getting called a molester. Prior to that age, I had had few if any problems talking to teenage girls. In fact, from age 27-43, I had 13-17 year old girls even openly propositioning me, especially when I was a teacher. When I was 43, I had an 18 year old girlfriend. It wasn’t much of an issue.
I think at a certain age, a man just becomes “too old,” and now you are a creepy old man, and you just can’t talk to them anymore. I doubt if it’s me as I talked to them with no problems until I got to a certain age. I talked to them the same way at age 45 as I had all of the years prior, so my way of talking to them hadn’t changed. It’s just that I got so old that I was not able to talk to them in the same way as I had my whole life due to the fact that I had reached a certain age. I don’t see how any man over age 45 can talk to teenage girls. How is it even possible?
Now I live in a Latino town, and you still can’t talk to teenage girls with a few exceptions. I did meet two girls, one 16 and the other 17, who were way, way, way too friendly, but those were exceptions and I was even afraid to talk to them because I thought people might get mad though they were surely willing.
Other than a few outliers, It’s basically impossible. You can’t even ask what school they go to or if they are in high school or college. Those are considered “molester” questions. It’s not even easy to look at them. At times you need to be a bit careful how you look at them because sometimes people get mad. They’re about as off-limits as human beings can be. And this is a Latino town where nobody cares about much of anything, and a lot of people are poor.
Now given that that’s the way things are, the way I see it is that the vast majority of teenage girls getting involved with adult men these days know exactly what they are doing, and in fact the relationship is 100% consensual. I figure in most cases the girls probably even seduce the men. But I do not know how any man pulls off any such relationship nowadays because I see these girls as not only untouchable but also untalkable. How can you “groom” them if you can’t even say Hi to them?