Bigfoot News Birthday Edition Part 2

Shocking news about the Stacy Brown “Bigfoot arm”: A Beyond Highbrow exclusive story!

The official story has already gone out. A possible Bigfoot arm was found on a man’s property in Florida. Stacy Brown’s team went to investigate and took possession of it. The original bone was said to be large and had some hair on it. A FWS biologist was called in, and he verified that it was a primate arm. Brown then issued a statement that they were going to have the arm tested. 11 days later, Brown released a story saying that the arm had been tested and had been proven to be an alligator arm.

Actually, the official story is not true. So what really happened?

Here is what happened.

The arm was found on a law enforcement official’s property in an area of heavy Bigfoot activity. The arm was dug up by a dog and had been worked by animals. The arm had hair on it. A FWS scientist was called in and said the arm was a primate. I know someone who saw the arm with hair on it and was there when the FWS made that determination. In order to believe Stacy Brown’s insane story, we have to believe that a FWS biologist is so stupid that he cannot tell a reptile arm from a mammal arm.

Within one hour after taking possession of the arm, Brown received a phone call from a very wealthy Bigfoot enthusiast in Ohio. He wanted to get involved. Brown said no. The man asked how much would it take you to give up that arm. Brown quoted a very high figure – I can now reveal that that figure was $500,000. The man bit, unbelievably enough. The sale was made immediately, and incredibly, the entire $500K was wired into Stacy’s account, and the arm was in the mail just like that.

Brown then started putting out fake stories about how they were going to test the arm even though they didn’t even have possession of it anymore. Very quickly, Brown called up a taxidermist friend and asked him how much it would cost to buy an alligator arm. The man quoted $600. Brown said fine and bought the reptile arm. They then put out a fake story about the arm being tested and having been proven to have been an alligator, all to cover up the huge amount that Brown made on the sale of the arm. Brown is now, like the man in Ohio, a rich man. He is also a great big liar. On the latter count, in Bigfootery, he has found a happy home.

My source for this information: An anonymous source very close to Beyond Highbrow has revealed this very exclusive information to us. I know him well and believe him implicitly. This man is extremely close to Stacy Brown. He was present when most of the important events in the above story occurred, in other words, this is eyewitness testimony. The source reports that some members of Brown’s team are disgusted and feel that Brown sold out Bigfootery for money. They feel that the arm may have been a real Bigfoot arm, but now it is off to some rich man, and we will never know what it was.

Because my new story will probably be torn to pieces, I will have a question and answer session below.

Where was the arm found? Somewhere in Florida.

Was it found on the property of a credible person? Yes, he is a law enforcement official who wishes to remain anonymous.

Is there activity in the area? Actually, there is a lot of Bigfoot activity in and around that property, including a trackway that was found before the arm.

How was the arm found? It was dug up by a dog.

Does that make sense? Yes, Bigfoots bury their dead.

What shape was it in? The bone had been worked over by animals.

Did it have hair on it? Yes, it had patches of brown hair on it.

Is the arm human? The LE official immediately ruled out human.

What is the arm? It is the arm of a non-human primate.

What did the arm look like? It was large enough that the team thought it could have been a juvenile Sasquatch. It also had a certain amount of hair on it.

Where any photos released? Yes, two photos were released. The first one was said to be the original “primate arm,” and the second one was said to be the same arm after testing proved it was an alligator.

What was in the two photos? Both photos were of the alligator arm that was purchased by Stacy very soon after he acquired the primate arm. So skeptics are correct that that is an alligator arm in the photo, and they are also correct that both photos line up perfectly; indeed they do because they are two photos of the same alligator bone.

This is the original released photo, said to be a Sasquatch arm, was actually a gator arm purchased from a taxidermist.

This is the original released photo, said to be a Sasquatch arm but was actually a gator arm purchased from a taxidermist.

So Stacy lied and knowingly put out a photo of a known alligator bone and claimed it was a photo of the primate bone they found? Apparently this is what occurred.

Is there hair on the bone on either of the photos? Apparently not. What might be hair is just dirt, decomposed flesh or skin.

Was a photo of the actual primate arm ever released? Actually a photo was released! Photos were taken of the primate arm as soon as it was acquired, and one of these photos was uploaded to the site of Brown’s team (The Sasquatch Hunters) immediately. This photo stayed up for only a short time until the arm was sold to the man from Ohio. Then it was quickly taken down and shortly replaced with a photo of the newly acquired gator bone.

What about people who say that both photos line up perfectly so Brown’s story is correct? They are right. Both bones line up. That is because they are two photos of the same gator bone bought from a taxidermist. But that doesn’t prove Brown’s story is correct at all, of course.

This is the second photo of the same gator arm, this time said to be the "primate arm" after it was proven to be a gator. The same purchased gator arm was used for both photos.

This is the second photo of the same gator arm, this time said to be the “primate arm” after it was proven to be a gator. The same purchased gator arm was used for both photos.

Were any photos of the real primate bone taken? Yes, they were. See above.

Did you try to obtain some photos? Yes I did, but they were not available. Stacy has photos of the real bone, but he is keeping all of that very close to his chest.

What does the bone look like to you? I haven’t the faintest idea. I am not an anatomist, and I know nothing of what any sort of bones look like, mammal, reptile or otherwise. Don’t ask me.

Where does that leave us? The real arm is either the arm of an ape or monkey that was running loose in Florida or it is the arm of a Bigfoot.

How could an ape or a monkey be running loose in Florida? Reportedly there are monkeys and possibly even apes running loose in Florida having escaped from collectors and having been freed via recent hurricanes.

Is there any specific evidence that tell us whether the real arm was from  a monkey/ape or a Bigfoot? Not that I am aware of.

Will we ever hear about this primate arm again? Possibly no. The rich man has taken possession of it, and we may never hear of it again.

Why was the rich man so anxious to buy the arm? I have no idea.

How did the rich man figure out so quickly that the arm had been recovered? I have no idea.

Who is the rich man? I wish I knew.

Is Stacy Brown rich? He is now.

Is Stacy Brown a liar? Sure looks like it.

Is Bigfootery about Big Money? It sure can be, no?

Why is this post titled Birthday Edition? Put on your thinking cap.

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Filed under Animals, Apes, Bigfoot, Florida, Mammals, Regional, Reptiles, South, USA, Wild

134 responses to “Bigfoot News Birthday Edition Part 2

  1. big g

    This is probably the scenerio for most bigfoot bones. The proportions are all wrong for alligator. I’d like to know the location.

  2. Alligators have short arms that are rather thin. Very short arms. How can this be lost on everyone?

  3. oversightcommittee

    I saw him just last week and there was nothing jubilant about Stacey’s demeanor. I think that either you just got taken or you are drinking the same kool-aid that M.K. Davis has in his frig.

    • I think I just banned your worthless ass, scumface. Now FOAD and get the Hell off my blog.

      HAVE A NICE DAY ASSHOLE!

    • big g

      Mk Davis shows you what could be anomalies and let’s you decide. I find nearly all of his stuff interesting and I appreciate Hus efforts . Your comment about him is coming from either a blind or stupid person. And that is provable.

      • Didn’t I ban you shitface? You talking to Big G shitface? Say it to Big G’s face shitface.

      • big g

        We don’t have enough information about this subject for you to be sure about any of it. Hey Robert is this the guy who erased our hardrives.

      • What makes you say that Big G? Do you have any evidence of that?

      • Big G

        around the time after someone emptied your hardrive i sign on to beyond highbrow and my computer funked and my screen went from your blog and went to the nutcases blog. about a week later the computer i used during the day had its hardrive erased.that guy used ip addresses from your hard drive and targeted them when i signed on to beyond highbrow. then we had some heated aurguments over three days and then my hard drive went down. that guy was a computer terriorist and he is the guy that you keep banning and he walks around the band. i caught him over on randy’s site inviting all the anoun’s over there to visit his illegal site over here. if he has the capability to tap into beyond highbrow and make someones computer revert over to his site , he has the capability to funk a hardrive with one command. and you can count on him to never reveal himself. he plays in the shadows. he will eventually do something to national security and the feds will roast him.

  4. Hi Beatrix, as it turns out, both existing photos are indeed of an alligator arm! The actual primate photo is not available. It was released for a brief period on the web, but then it was quickly taken down and replaced with the gator photos.

  5. Bigfoot? Haha, more like Smallhand!

  6. neo

    do u have any inside info on the killing bigfoot which will be airing soon?

    did they kill a bigfoot? sadly they are searching in Texas i think. not oregon/washington/vancouver

  7. Emmett Von Schnit

    Robert, the killing bigfoot program is the GCBRO gulfcoast bigfoot research organization. http://www.gcbro.com/

  8. Emmett Von Schnit

    Killing bigfoot. Tenative airdate: Oct. 24th 9:00pm CST channel DESTINATION AMERICA.

  9. Robert, your not even close on this story. Besides when did $500,000.00 become big-money to a trust fund baby like yourself?

    • FOAD.

      HAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Haven’t I banned you before you little cocksucking fag?

      • big g

        I’m not too interested in your main subject matter for the last couple of months Robert but I educated myself on the war and the plane downing. I knew that something interesting about bigfoot would come soon.
        Then of course the nut cases have come back and now I see why you waited to do a bigfoot story. Its time to get back to the wars.

        • See why I don’t write about this crap? These Bigfooters are the worst human beings on the whole Internet. They’re crazy and not only that, they’re dangerous. They are sort of like what they call “the dangerously mentally ill” or “the criminally insane.”

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  11. Mr. E2me

    ‘They are sort of like what they call “the dangerously mentally ill” or “the criminally insane.”

    Totally. Sharp rise in trolls since you broached the bigfoot topic again. Perhaps it’s Randy’s elite crew of genetically hampered recruits. You were so right about them being lunatics. When they decided to start calling people’s employers and trying to get them fired, it was definately a sign irresponsible, dangerous behavior. Randy as the owner/author of that blog did nothing or little to curb that. If someone were to sue he would be culpable. As it is , it is an accurate representation of a blog and it’s owner out of control.

    • They were trying to get people fired? Spill.

      • Mr. E2me

        IIRC, The clowns from Randy’s kinderblog were calling the employers of RD’s new of Team Tracker. A couple of them actually that’s when I became completely disgusted with Randy’s pile of shit blog.

    • Randy

      I think you have your facts wrong. It was Dyer’s crew that were making calls to get people fired.
      Ask Don Booch and Thomas B.
      If someone from my blog did this, I was unaware of it. I am not responsible for the actions of others. It’s a fact and there is a law in place for such things.
      Fact check please.

      • Mr. E2me

        Hi Randy.
        You irresponsible cunt. It is not surprising in the least that you just stand back and proclaim ‘It wasn’t me”. No it wasn’t you. It was on the blog you own and control. Those are facts moron. Check them yourself clown.

        • … and then you criticize others when they are uncivilized with their language. You could learn a thing or two about verbal ettiqutte even from Randy. Who are you to be a hostile dick to everyone every time you have a problem with them?
          Hey Randy, you have lax commenting policies but nice manners!

        • Mr. E2me

          Fuck off Nom. As usual you don’t contribute anything besides a pussy remark. I should be flattered that you hang on my every word, but would be more impressed if you just went and got a life. Randy is clearly someone who is disingenuos and lacks a spine. And here you are complimenting him. You sure can pick them , loser.

        • Big G

          im sensing a little tension between nominay and mr e. I remember when it started. nominay said some really stupid shit about our second amendment rights and mr e merly said that he had stayed out of the discussion but chose to own guns. I kinda feel responsible since I was the one producing the debating material when nominay attacked every gun owner. hey that was a different thread. and its been months. both of you are long term members here and we certainly need some more with scuples. now I see mr e not addressing nominay but nominay attacking mr e. when will it end. this isn’t randy’s blog where the retarded nutbags hang out. I see no real value to posting a comment attacking someone about something said months ago on a different blog. we can disagree on self protection but we also can agree on bigfoot research. I’ve seen it done. I myself have not criticized those who would take away our guns and let the U.S. fall into anarchy. I myself will never go into the woods unarmed and those that do are just dinner.

        • Mr. E2me

          Thanks G. You have a clear bead on the situation. Right on target.

        • Mr. E2me

          ‘I myself will never go into the woods unarmed and those that do are just dinner.’

          Also , as an aside , A sharpshooter friend of mine just lent me his copy of ‘Missing 411’. I should have it finished in a day or two. He likes to say exactly the same thing.

        • Randy

          Go fuck yourself. You are no better than what you’re crying about. Whiny self righteous prick.

        • Mr. E2me

          Hi Randi
          Hysterical that you think you have a high horse. I didn’t go off half cocked.
          You are in fact an irresponsible scumbag . Go shut your own pie hole. Do the rest of civilization a favor and take down asylum you call a blog. RD is gone. Mebbe y’all should disapear as well. Your job is done.

      • Big G

        hey jackie que pasa? and i agree with your statement. randy’s research was terribly one sided. im still waiting for an explanation of the muscle movement under the skin of patty. proving something is a hoax isnt even a consern of mine. everything i view goes into a maybe bank until i see something beyond human control. like whitey’s run where the animal started on all fours and then travels on two.

      • Thank you very much for your comment, Jacki.

      • Randy

        Jacki, You are correct. I do not ban people for their opinons.
        I have posted several warnings though. The fact of the matter is blogger does not have a ban function and that’s a fact.

        Nobody on my blog stalked anyone in person and nobody got anyone fired.
        EM2 whatever needs to shut his piehole before going off half cocked.
        He bitches about my blog but I see the words “fag”, “cunt”, “fuck off” posted all over in here.

        For the record, I have never threatened to run over people with my car or beat them with a bat. The host of this blog has.

        If someone wants to throw stones, they better make sure their own house is clean.

        BTW, I still love your pottery. Talented artist you are.

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  13. Hmm

    If the bone was found on a law enforcement officer’s land, it belongs to him, not Stacey. How could Stacey sell, for half a million bucks, that which was not his? Certainly, the law enforcement officer would know of his own property rights.

    • Joerg Hensiek

      this is one of the problems I see with this story. Another one: why should anybody buy these bones, if it is not proven that they are real bigfoot bones?! Half a million for a monkey arm? However, this will end like all – at first sight – great bigfoot stories: inconclusive at best. Even if bigfooters have a camera crew with them and they film how the docu director is knocked over by a potential bigfoot, the end result is: We had what may or may not have been an encounter!
      By the way: Happy birthday, Robert!!!

      • Thank you. Most BF stories end up exactly this of course, inconclusive. However, I think that that film director was indeed knocked over by a real Bigfoot. The problem is how will we ever prove it?

        • Joerg Hensiek

          i have the same opinion on the San Antonio affair. But again: like always, from the Patty video to those Florida bones, we will never know for sure…

        • big g

          I look at the patty video as impossible to reproduce by a human. They have proved it beyond reasonable doubt 10 times over. The structure of the
          proportions, the size,
          the gate, the muscle movement of the thigh and upper back in the shoulder. Also the angle of the trailing leg is too much for p&g to know about prior to 1967. And I has yet to be reproduced using humans with a foot print trail.that video establish that they did exist. Now about San Antonio. Many things in the video and story not easily done. But I will say it is easier to do it today and impossible to be done in 1967.

        • Sonjia Brown

          big g – I agree, I am reading Bill Munn`s book When Roger Met Patty, it proves it was impossible beyond all reasonable doubt, to fake Patty.
          P.S. Happy birthday Robert.

        • Thank you Sonija! Of course PG is impossible to fake.

        • Rahul

          Wishing you a day that is as special in every way as you are. Happy Birthday Robert, Long live!!!

  14. Martin

    Hi Robert, and Happy Birthday. Your posts beg one question I haven’t seen addressed: If the dog dug up a Bigfoot arm and it’s not out of the question because Bigfoot bury their dead, then has any effort been made to exhume the rest of the creature’s remains?

  15. Noneofmany

    Crocodilians and lizards can have remarkably human like hands.

    It’s sometimes pointed out that primate limbs actually experienced a sort of advantageous regression to a lizard like limb design when they evolved from ancestors with more paw like arms and legs.

    Fossilized salamander arms and shoulders from the andrais genus were even mistaken, more than once, for fossilized hominid remains in the 17th and 18th century.

    • Big G

      I can say that big gators are everywhere. gators that are shot don’t just come to the surface. many are lost and the wise hunter doesn’t go in after them. when a gator is shot the threat of predation is usually gone so the killer feels no need to redeem the carcass. how ever when a florida wildlife biologist says its not human or bear and the alligator( which he sees daily) doesn’t come up while making a statement about primates when none exsist in florida, seems strange. I would expect that the biologist has seen more bear and gator bones then primates or even humans. to distinguish between a human and another large primate when all he usually sees is bear and alligator seems strange. sure wish I could get a bite on the location. the only land I know around here owned by the good old boy network is in Hendry county. anybody got any ideas.

      • “im sensing a little tension between nominay and mr e. I remember when it started. nominay said some really stupid shit about our second amendment rights”
        You mean like, things you don’t agree with?

        “and mr e merely said that he had stayed out of the discussion but chose to own guns.”
        Merely? Huh? As in what merely means in another galaxy? I was attacked. He was like Mott69 on Redbull …

        “I kinda feel responsible since I was the one producing the debating material when nominay attacked every gun owner.”

        I slammed guns, not their owners. Your rationalizing of guns was just nonsense to me, and then this tasmanian devil who is bald with a gotee hit me like a mack truck out of nowhere, and bled my mind with vulgarity, hostility and inhumanity.
        And since then, every time he goes off on people (it’s not just me) with whatever sage advice he has about killing themselves, I notice. He thinks this website is his playground to be a bully when someone “gets out of line”. I have no use for a tough guy. They don’t belong on here.

        • Mr. E2me

          ‘and then this tasmanian devil who is bald with a gotee hit me like a mack truck out of nowhere, and bled my mind with vulgarity, hostility and inhumanity.’

          You are such a victim aren’t you , you little putz.
          Actually , IT WAS YOU , you fucking cunt, that bad mouthed me to begin with with some smarmy pussy comment. I called you on it. You ran your pathetic mouth again. I then proceeded to dismantle every argument you had and make you look completely inept.
          I have taken the high road and avoided your idiot comments on just about every comment. You just whine anyway. It’s one long bleeet- anything that you post.

          ‘ I have no use for a tough guy. They don’t belong on here’

          Well, you impotent little shit head.

          It does not fucking matter what you have use for here. I am going to treat you to your own medicine. I will start making it a point to highlight what a moron you are on your every little post. And here’s the thing. NOT because I am tougher than you. Because I am way smarter than you.

          Now run off to your bag of horse and procreate some more damaged children why dontcha ? Fucked up little junky.

        • 2ME 1)
          “I have taken the high road and avoided your idiot comments on just about every comment.”

          2ME 2) “Now run off to your bag of horse and procreate some more damaged children why dontcha?”

          So dragging my child into this is part of your high road strategy?
          Nevermind the lies about our brief history!

        • Mr. E2me

          ‘So dragging my child into this is part of your high road strategy?’

          Nonono. You do not get to twist reality for your own needs. Listen up fuckwit. Get a cup of coffee in you or take some uppers. Do something to clear the fucking fog in your itty bitty head.
          I WAS taking the high road. You have missed out on that opportunity. My previous post made it clear that NOW I will chase your idiot ass. As you seem to have no filter on what comes out of the haze between yer ears.
          YOU don’t seem to have any limits , Why should I ?

          Also, I had made a previous comment querying as to your offspring’s deficiencies were a result of your prolonged drug use.
          YOUR response was a wink and a smiley face or something completely stoopid like that. I thought you were such a stoned loser that you just didn’t care. So it is shocking to see you feign emotion.

          Fuck ya.

        • Sonjia Brown

          Nominay and Mr.E2me whatever animosity you feel to each other, can we please keep it civil and about Bigfoot here ? Personally I like the pair of you and I think you both have some good input about Bigfoot, so let`s keep it on the Big guy subject.

        • Leave my child out of this, punk. You’re so weak you can’t limit your abuse to me? You have to digress to addressing my child to make your case for my loserdome? If you don’t retreat from this limb, then you lose. You lose on the character issue, and thus, on the credibility of your assessment of me as a loser. To boast about your trip on the high road only to ditch it is hypocritical, period.

        • Mr. E2me

          ‘Leave …period.’

          Isn’t the universal indicator for cowardice the ability to dish it out and not be able to take it. ? Choke junky. Choke. Remember your comments on Ebola ? You weren’t so sensitive then either hypocrite.

        • “Isn’t the universal indicator for cowardice the ability to dish it out and not be able to take it. ?”

          That depends. At a certain level of stooping low, no. It’s not cowardice anymore than it is bravery for you to troll it to the max.
          If I were to label your mother a whore, that wouldn’t be dishing it out, it would just be lame, weak, and easy. I don’t want any part of that. I stopped being 13 twenty years ago.

          As for my comments about Ebola, we have a population problem that is destroying the planet. It’s nothing personal. We just need a cleansing of the numbers.
          Homo Sapien Sapiens really aren’t good enough to deserve living on the Earth. It’s too bad the Toba Catastrophe didn’t wipe us out.

        • Jonathan

          Hello Nominay? whats up kid? got the fights for the day with your dear one Mr E2me.
          Mr E2me, pls be a little soft on the kid. He’s priceless and very entertaining kid.

        • Hey bozo, you know what’s pathetic about you? You only post on this subject. That’s weird man! I don’t even recall seeing you post ever. You just magically appeared over this issue. You could disappear back intro the rat hole you came from.
          As for referring to me as a kid, I can tell that you’re younger than me, so that’s another dumb thing about you.

      • Mr. E2me

        ‘we have a population problem that is destroying the planet. It’s nothing personal. We just need a cleansing of the numbers.
        Homo Sapien Sapiens really aren’t good enough to deserve living on the Earth. It’s too bad the Toba Catastrophe didn’t wipe us out.’

        So you have typically insensitive and not intellectual opinion on population control. However when i point out that it is actually you and your child who should be in that portion of cleansing, YOU get sensitive.
        I mean facts are facts. I guess I’m a meany for stating them.
        Balls in your court hypocrite.

        • You singled out my 4 year old because of how little you think of me, not because she should be part of some impersonal mass cleansing. Go pick on someone your own age exclusively.
          One not need an ‘intellectual position’ to want to save the planet, and to recognize that we are morally inferior to every other species on it. It’s a priviledge, not a right, for humans to be here.
          Hopefully that supervolcano at Yellowstone will burst soon. That’d be exciting. I have an emergency contingency plan should that happen.

        • Mr. E2me

          Wow. I had the most awesome day yesterday. Just after I blew out yer pea brain with logic , I got up and left the computer with a tremendous amount of satisfaction. I then procurred new deal. I made my karate class and found out I am in line for a promotion. I bailed on class a little early to go have birthday dinner with my perfect wonderful daughter. She placed 3rd in the Ms. Sonoma pageant when she was going to university there. We went to a high end steak house ( http://www.ruthschris.com/ ). Baby gurl insisted on paying.
          Nom, you so fucked up mang. I am sorry that logic is such a cruel mistress to you. The only reason for a population cleansing is to strengthen the population. Make it healthier.
          To do that you must weed out the weak and genetically inferior .
          Junkies are weak people and should be culled in that event. You have led me to believe that you are a drug addict. So , sorry. Logic states that you fit that profile. You and your family would have to go.
          I am absolutely repulsed that you use your offspring to attempt to put yourself on some kind of high moral ground. If you were the idiot shooting junk and the devil know’s what into your body and damaging your chromosomes, pal, you got what you deserved. If I am wrong, fine. Still stands that your whole population control logic includes harming millions of innocent people. Yet you are smarmy and don’t give a fuck about that.
          Myself , I think the heard needs to be thinned . Not a lot. Just the damaged ones. The scabs on society , such as yourself.

          You sir are a wackjob and the world would be a better place without you.
          I , on the other hand, make the world a better place.

        • Jonathan

          Hey Nominay kid, Now where you are kid? Seems you got your swarmy ass and balls owned over by E2me once more, Now, is there a pit near your home you should go home and bury yourself there after being thoroughly owned and pwned every single time, Come back fresh after a hiatus for the next owning kid. But you are very A entertaining like a pre-pubertal adolescent child.. Keep coming kid you are priceless, theres nothing entertaining than watching a clown who thinks himself seriously

        • “Wow. I had the most awesome day yesterday. I got up and left the computer with a tremendous amount of satisfaction. I then procurred new deal. I made my karate class and found out I am in line for a promotion. I bailed on class a little early to go have birthday dinner with my perfect wonderful daughter. She placed 3rd in the Ms. Sonoma pageant when she was going to university there. We went to a high end steak house ( http://www.ruthschris.com/ ) Baby gurl insisted on paying .”

          I often am envious of overachievers, but not of you because of your character issues. It’s not about whether we are winners or losers, but what kind of winners and losers we will be. I’m not so insecure that I have to brag about and compliment myself as a good person. I don’t talk much about the details of my life, especially to strangers online. That’s narcissistic and egotisical.

          “The only reason for a population cleansing is to strengthen the population. Make it healthier.”

          Saving the planet takes precedence over that. I disagree with the premise of a strong population. You think more highly of the human race than I do. Collectively, we are vermin, and the Earth knows it.

          “Junkies are weak people and should be culled in that event. You have led me to believe that you are a drug addict. So , sorry. Logic states that you fit that profile. You and your family would have to go.”

          There’s another reason why I fit that profile, but it’s none of your business. If Robert cared to and was so inclined, he could verify whether I am or am not a drug addict. I’m stable enough to where I wouldn’t wish death on you and your family. When I think of the philosophy of natural selection, I think of the Columbine killers. They had a thing for natural selection. Both of them were wearing black shirts with “natural selection” in red letters during the shooting. Hitler believed in natural selection. It’s an excuse for barbarism.

          “I am absolutely repulsed that you use your offspring to attempt to put yourself on some kind of high moral ground.”

          How ironic of you – you’re the one who brags about your offspring.
          I was simply providing a thoughtful reason as to why I should not kill myself, which was your suggestion to me.

          “Still stands that your whole population control logic includes harming millions of innocent people. Yet you are smarmy and don’t give a fuck about that.”

          You can’t have it both ways. Can’t save the Earth and save everyone. If the planet goes, everyone dies anyway.

          “You sir are a wackjob and the world would be a better place without you.”

          It’s a good thing your opinion on that doesn’t matter, otherwise for me the world would be a scary place.

          “I , on the other hand, make the world a better place.”

          Yes, you’ve patted yourself on the back before. It’s tacky to say that about oneself.

        • Justin is not a druggie in any way, shape or form that I am aware of. I sort of wish he was, but apparently that is not the case. I do not think he even smokes weed. And he doesn’t drink either.

  16. Sam

    I like Bigfoot stories. I’m not sure there’s a Bigfoot but I do believe that there are many different species of humans and that their genetics plays a bigger role in populations today than is thought.

  17. Mr. E2me

    And now for something completely different…..

    http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2014/09/photograph-from-next-survivorman.html#moretop

    I am quite stoked that Survivorman has run with his interest in Bigfoot. The 6 series deal with Bindernagl sounds intriguing. I am curious if he does anything with Standing in this series. Fraud is in Alberta , this series seems to be at least somewaht in B.C.

    http://www.hellobc.com/klemtu.aspx

    I had kind of gone on BF hiatus with the limited reporting here and the banning /leaving of the NAWAC guy from BF forums.
    Also I have found some friends with an interest in ‘ squatchin. Friend of a friend might be helping out with a habituation somewhere outside Sacramento. I just don’t have the time to go now. I think I might be doing something interesting per fieldwork next summer .

    What has everybody else been doing to feed the monkey ?

    • woodchucker

      E2me, I have fished the inside passage. From Kitimat out to the edge of the Kitelope Nature Reserve and near the outside, past Gil Island, etc. Absolutely beautiful boreal rainforest. The abundance of wildlife and forest between those calm inside fjords is amazing. And I have seen the spirit bear, although more inland than Klemtu. That was an amazing experience.

      My woods experiences have been limited this summer but I will be out in the sticks again this fall, listening and observing. Its a humble, inert way to connect but let the critters come if they chose.

      • Mr. E2me

        ‘My woods experiences have been limited this summer but I will be out in the sticks again this fall, listening and observing. Its a humble, inert way to connect but let the critters come if they chose.’

        Nice. I really like B.C. Every other year or so the wife considers moving there . I haven’t even been camping the last 2 years, I am missing some outdoors time myself. I yakked with my new bigfoot amigo a bit last night. We are tentatively thinking aboot spending a few days around Tahoe next summer, or maybe this itme next year. We are easing into this friendship/research thing. We each have another buddy that wants to join us. I am looking forward to it already.

        • woodchucker

          Never seen the mountains of California myself. Just the backdrops of the Smeja vids.

        • Mr. E2me

          ‘Never seen the mountains of California myself. Just the backdrops of the Smeja vids.’

          I would imagine Vancouver Island is like the mainland. Perhaps a little lusher with more rainfall. I have been to Whistler three (?) times. I worked in Kananaskis and have skied Lake Louise regularly for a few years. I have hung out in Banff and been to Jasper twice.
          I would compare that with the areas I have been here. Tahoe ( North of me). Big Bear ( 100 miles South East). Angeles National Forest ( 1 block from my back yard). These areas are not as lush. Kinda arid. Southern California is considered ‘ High Desert’ area. There are lots of Pine Trees and brush . Just not as lush. I have done some 4 wheeling throughout the area and enjoy finding the vistas, being originally a prairie boy ..
          I have also done some hiking in the Red woods and that seems closer to what reminds me of B.C. and the North wilderness. Some moss and plants. Not as filled in as B.C.
          So my basic perspective would be that there is less vegetation and fauna in the forest were it is drier -here. Then filling out upwards towards the Pacific NW with the abundant rainfall.
          I loves me Vancouver and have family there. Gots to get back soon.

        • woodchucker

          All my California experiences were between LA and San Diego. Most inland I’ve been is Pomona.
          I’ve been to Vancouver Island. Its nice but not as nice as the Douglas Channel ( to me anyway ).

    • Joerg Hensiek

      I ask myself why he does not go to the site in Alberta he visited with Standing (or does he?). If Standing himself is credibie or not is not the question. But Stroud had some interesting experiences while trekking there, including stone throwing on his tent. It really seems to be a hotspot, and more remote than the coastal areas he is touring now, so I hope he will dedicate one or two of the six episodes to this region. Another interesting region: the part of Alaska where he had his only potential bigfoot encounter and therefore became interested in the subject.

      • big g

        I agree Jeorge les getting involved in a big way gives me hope that others will use his technic and not practice pos’ technic . They are bigger men then me going into the woods with just a camera. That didn’t work for the bear guy. But then again bigfoot sees guns and will stay hidden. Good luck to those guys and let’s all enjoy the reaserch they risked their life to get.

      • Mr. E2me

        I ask myself the same question Joerg. Go were Standing showed him without Standing coming along. I hope he has a hotspot in B.C. I wonder how long it’s going to take to get these episodes to air ?

      • woodchucker

        Robert mentioned in another board that the AHS got trampled pretty hard last year ( remember Meldrum and Arcand? ) and that even KW mentioned the area might be cold now. There is a lot of resource extraction in the area ( you see recently cleared seismic lines in the Stroud episode ) and logging and trapping goes on throughout the winter. Plus some of the best bighorn sheep and elk hunting in Alberta is located nearby so lots of reasons it could be a cold spot now. There has been no local news of any such “visits” by these researchers that I saw. A new location may make the most sense.

        • big g

          Its probably les’ plan to explore other areas to take the pressure the spot standing showed him. There are a number of areas in the pacific northwest that led would get some contact with his style. Good to hear from you woodchucker.

        • woodchucker

          Cheers big g!

  18. rumferlife

    Hmmm…I just happen to know a rich bigfoot enthusiast in Ohio…I guess I’ll know more later…entirely plausible

  19. I don’t have much to add right now about Bigfoot, Sonja. I did this video a while ago and it speaks to what it is more than any words I could say. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KYSb_tx4EU&list=UULd3y6_yn2WybCR3ILeHE5A

  20. Reblogged this on dncswclds Photography and commented:
    OH I am sure someone who paid $500,000 for an arm or anything really would trust USPS to deliver it ??? Get real…

  21. Mr. E2me

    Thanks for that KW. Quite interesting. I myself feel the Northern portion of the provinces from B.C. to Ontario are hiding potentially large population of the bigfoot(s).

  22. Ok jerkoff, you are banned.

    HAND!

  23. woodchucker

    Amazing. Who is we KW? Do you mean Todd?

    • woodchucker

      Sounds like you have had a busy summer KW. Glad to hear your team is set and exploring as well as continuing with the AHS. If you have room for another trustworthy person with woods experience and strong powers of observation I would love an opportunity. Even if its not until next year.

      Are the signs at the Waterton site similar to the AHS? Coyote dinners, multiple sitings, screams. Have you found hair and scat again? Are the groups the same size in number?

  24. woodchucker

    Just watching this episode of H2 In search of Aliens which has Randells and Meldrum walking Tsoukalos through the Olympic Project. It was originally aired in August….

    Searching for Bigfoot

    Premiere Date:August 22, 2014

    In 1958, a bulldozer operator in Northern California discovered 16-inch human-like footprints, and the legend of Bigfoot was born. Today, there are hundreds of reported sightings of big hairy monsters in America, but nowhere are the stories more prolific than in America’s Pacific Northwest. Many reports of encounters with the giant hair-covered creature are accompanied by accounts of UFO activity and unexplained lights in the sky. Could the creature known as Bigfoot, or Sasquatch, really exist? If so, could it be living proof that extraterrestrials were not only here, but may still be living in our midst? Ancient Astronaut theorist Giorgio A. Tsoukalos joins the Olympic Project and anthropologist Dr. Jeff Meldrum on an overnight expedition on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington. Will their arsenal of high-tech equipment capture images or sounds that confirm Bigfoot’s presence?

    http://www.history.com/shows/in-search-of-aliens/episodes

  25. DC Cooper

    woodchucker
    October 5, 2014 at 10:19 AM
    Just watching this episode of H2 In search of Aliens which has Randells and Meldrum walking Tsoukalos through the Olympic Project. It was originally aired in August….

    Thanks for the heads up……..I’ve seen the commercial, but didn’t know it already aired….grabbing it now
    J.L.

    • woodchucker

      You’re welcome. The part where the OP was using a truck mounted IR camera to view the tree line off road allowances is more of a deer poachers method than of one looking for what is an elusive hominid. But I found Meldrum’s casts interesting.

      • DC Cooper

        woodchucker
        October 5, 2014 at 6:12 PM
        ….The part where the OP was using a truck mounted IR camera to view the tree line off road allowances is more of a deer poachers method than of one looking for what is an elusive hominid….
        —-
        lol….the local police have IR in my area(Chicago suburb), but I think I’ve seen that footage before, nice unit…..I really just was curious to see what the
        Olympic Project was doing and how Tsoukalos was going to ‘tie’ in…
        I’ve seen Tsoukalos many times appear in various shows, mostly ‘Ancient Aliens’…just saw recently that he now has his own show….I didn’t think he would touch the ‘BIgfoot’ subject, so that was one of his shows I wanted to see how he would ‘navigate’ it….I thought it was odd he chose The Olympic Project; being that they subscribe to the idea that Bigfoot is just a ‘very intelligent’ animal.

        • woodchucker

          Yeah, Giorgio didn’t exactly make a link to intelligence from outer space, but his visit to the Museum of Man and discussion there was interesting.

        • woodchucker

          The other thing I found interesting was the police officer on the Olympic Project is the same one that was part of the Genome Project.

        • big g

          Derrick Randell I believe was also part of the genome project. Isn’t it strange how nothing has come out and there is more going on in the community then ever before.

        • big g

          Like everyone wants to research without media. Those that have a site know as soon as word gets out the area gets populated with humans. Bigfoot doesn’t like hanging around humans . Humans kill a lot of bigfoot.

  26. Emmett Von Schnit

    By the way, les Stroud’s song “Artic mistress” ain’t bad. Good actually.

  27. Didn’t I ban you already, you backwards, amoral Hindu?

  28. Big G

    are you kidding me. there are 40,000 sitings from people who see black bears daily. the saw an animal that walked up for long periods. bears can’t. i’ve seen the pg film and that isnt a bear. its a bipedal primate. not related to apes. so the study you are refering to is shit. and your statements prove your an idiot. so why do you sped you idiotness. better to remain silent and appear intelligent to say something and remove all doubt.

  29. woodchucker

    Uh yeah, it has been reported in areas of common habitat with black bear and a boat load of other animals too. But like you believe, cougars, grizzly bear, timber wolves, bobcat, wolverine, moose, elk, deer, etc cant share a black bear habitat so it is impossible for another critter to be sustained in such areas. The lonely black bear LOL.

  30. Watchi

    Hey Robert,
    Did you see this latest thing on Ketchum’s facebook?
    https://m.facebook.com/359075637446173/photos/a.402630933090643.90504.359075637446173/835299946490404/?type=1&source=46&refid=17
    Is all of this true? If so, it brings the skeptics position on ketchum’s paper into serious question.

    • Conspiracy theorist

      I just read it- and wow! This truly proves that there is a conspiracy to keep us from knowing bigfoot exists. Here is what I gleaned- I worry that the Men in Black will take down the facebook post before it is read by the true BF community:

      “To Scott Carpenter and the Bigfoot Community:
      I think it is quite ironic and somewhat despicable that folks like “seesdifferent” have taken such liberties at publicly discrediting Dr. Melba Ketchum. It seems very unfair to do battle over blogging from an anonymous position. Perhaps it is well known to the Bigfoot community as to the identity of “seesdifferent”. But in case “seesdifferent”’s identity is still an unknown, I wanted to reveal who he actually is and discuss the nature of his hatred towards all things bigfoot.
      “seesdifferent” is actually none other than the prestigious Michael Louis Wyman. Born in Grayling, Michigan in 1945, Michael was raised in Kalkaska and Cadillac, Michigan. He graduated from Cadillac High School in 1963. Later Michael attend the University of Michigan, graduating in 1967. Then, much to his credit, Michael became Dr. Wyman after graduating from Stanford University School of Medicine in 1972. Dr. Wyman advanced his training by specializing in Pediatrics and Neonatology at the University of Michigan. (http://www.ucomparehealthcare.com/drs/michael_l_wyman/)
      This is where things get interesting for Dr. Wyman’s career. He practiced at the University of Utah and became faculty at the University Of Utah Health Sciences Center. While there he published in the Journal of Pediatrics (volume 97, issue 3, September 1980). His publication related to computerized newborn intensive care data recording. Interested audiences will find other prestigious publications of Dr. Wyman’s, like his publication in Clinical Pediatrics relating to accuracy of transillumination in the recognition of pneumothorax and pneumomediastinum in the neonate. He also served as faculty at the University of Texas-Southwestern Medical Center. Again, to his credit, he published numerous papers relating to neonatology. As of 2005, Dr. Wyman has been practicing in Dallas, Texas. He also seemingly has presented/published several papers relating to the Battle of the Little Bighorn. In fact, he was a contributing editor for Nathaniel Philbrick’s book, “The Last Stand: Custer, Sitting Bull, and the Battle of the Little Bighorn” (interestingly, though, “seesdifferent” references this book on his blog as an unbiased commentary- seemingly acting as if the book has little to no connection to himself. Doesn’t peddling his own works, without truly letting his readers know he is referencing his own work somewhat unethical? Perhaps it is “over the line- Smokey!”).
      Dr. Wyman has furiously worked anonymously to discredit Melba Ketchum, Jeff Meldrum, and Scott Carpenter. His efforts are not just to the downfall of these individuals, but to the destruction of the Bigfoot community. And despite all of his efforts, he pleasingly positioned himself with Tyler Huggins and Bart Cartino. Why? At the time, I can’t imagine Bart and Tyler understood with whom they were commiserating. Bart and Tyler thought they found a strong ally in Dr. Wyman due to their great hatred for Dr. Ketchum. But there is serious doubt Bart and Tyler understood Dr. Wyman’s true identity or his true thoughts about the Bigfoot community.
      So who is Dr. Wyman in reality? A studious neonatologist by day and a blogging stalker by night? Dr. Wyman, a.k.a. “seesdifferent” has seemingly done a proficient job keeping his two identities separate. But why is that? Why wouldn’t he want his identity known? Perhaps it is because he has had a deep belief in Bigfoot at some point in his life… who knows. What is clear is Dr. Wyman’s trolling activities relating to bigfoot is abundant, evidenced across several forums (bigfoot forums, JREF, etc), his opinionaries on Daily Kos, and intellectual discourses on other peoples’ blogs (apeimmortal, Sharon hill, etc.).
      May I theorize! Perhaps Dr. Wyman is a powerful figure in the scientific community who wishes, very significantly, for the bigfoot legend to die. But why? Why would a published physician with faculty appointments at major Universities and a medical school graduate from Stanford even care an ounce about bigfoot (and if you’ve read the musings of Dr. Wyman’s blog at http://seesdifferent.wordpress.com/, you’ll quickly see that his interest in Bigfoot is much more than just an ounce. It is a wonder he has had anytime to practice medicine given the apparently huge amount of time he has spent on the subject of Bigfoot.). Perhaps it is because he cares very deeply about the subject, or at least he once did. Did he know Dr. Jeff Meldrum while he was at the University of Utah? Perhaps he, at one time, believed Meldrum’s theories. And, just perhaps, he thought he could help trap this illustrious creature and take part in being credited with the greatest zoological discovery in history. Is that why he used his connections at UT Southwestern to discredit and even put a stop to the work Dr. Ketchum was doing? Is it a coincidence that the very University Dr. Ketchum used for her Next Generation Sequencing was at the same University where Dr. Wyman has an academic appointment? I think not! Mysteriously the lab at UT Southwestern, which in the beginning thought Dr. Ketchum’s sample being tested was from a new species, backed out with no explanation? Did Dr. Wyman (aka “seesdifferent”) have something to do with this sudden change in behavior? Dr. Wyman’s faculty appointment at the University is no small thing and he definitely could have used his position power to influence the lab Dr. Ketchum used in her study. Or, most likely, Dr. Wyman is too ashamed and embarrassed for his identity to be known. And I would not be surprised at that, given his frequent visits to the bigfoot forums and JREF. Sometimes I get the distinct feeling from reading “seesdifferent” posts that he is a disgruntled ex-bigfoot believer.
      Ultimately, if Dr. Wyman wishes to discredit and attack Dr. Ketchum, let him do so fairly with transparency. He demands such transparency of those he criticizes. So then, show yourself sir!
      Reference:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Seesdifferent

      • big g

        Good reporting on doctor Wyman. I felt you did a thorough investigation and brought up many good points.

        • Mr. E2me

          So a Doctor who may or may not have had access to bigfoot research materials formed his own opinion of tests and experiments that he may or may not have had initimate knowledge of. Said Doctor then does not want to use his real name on the internet, cuz, well, it is just good advice.

        • Big G

          i wonder why the good doctor doesn’t comment here. im sure he has an explanation for everything.

        • Big G

          and yes thats my real name.

  31. DC Cooper

    woodchucker
    October 6, 2014 at 3:43 PM
    Yeah, Giorgio didn’t exactly make a link to intelligence from outer space, but his visit to the Museum of Man and discussion there was interesting.

    Yeah he did……in a way………the DNA part..’special sauce dna…..same thing as what Ketchum said was ‘angel dna’

  32. DC Cooper

    woodchucker
    October 6, 2014 at 7:43 PM
    The other thing I found interesting was the police officer on the Olympic Project is the same one that was part of the Genome Project.
    —-
    It was? Ok….makes a good connection then…..the “We Are Sasquatch’ class

  33. DC Cooper

    Cool…….
    ‘….Starting at 6:25 am Eastern time, people across the United States will be able to see a total eclipse of the moon…..’
    http://www.vox.com/2014/10/7/6934639/lunar-eclipse-blood-moon

  34. woodchucker

    History channel is airing Bigfoot files, all 3 shows in a row. Just watching the Yeti one where Messner is explaining the Yeti he saw must be a “special bear”, one that is large and looks different because of its high altitude habitat. But he doesn’t mention his brutally taxidermed bear is what he saw or explain how black, brown, grizzly, polar and even panda bears look similar yet the “special bear” doesn’t. Mark Evans really soiled the bed with this series.

  35. Mon Roody

    What do you think about dyer the liar and his new Pennsylvania film? It appears to be Pineapple Express meets Strange Wilderness. Maybe a marijuana dispensary has now sponsored him? Maybe if you smoke enough dope you will stumble into bigfoots hot dog stand. Maybe bigfoot likes weed?
    I don’t know, I’m rambling now, what’s your take, Robert? Give us a new post.

    • Can you give me a link to it? I have not seen it yet.

      I need to give you a new post but I am too tired, sorry. I have a lot of notes.

      • Harry Butts

        To Mr. Lindsay:
        well…….I wasn’t going to bring that PA ‘fiasco’ up but since it has….I’d like
        to know if you ‘saved’ that image(saw your post on T. Fasano’s page) on your phone RD sent you…..it’s obvious that it’s not the one that RD posted….he deliberately blurred it all out…but it sounds like maybe you saw the original before he blurred it…you mentioned being able to see the face (blue humanoid), feet,hands, nostril ridge, eyes(‘alien’ looking),
        back of the hands(leathery, almost looks like an armored glove),etc…
        I’d like to get or see a copy of that image…there’s no way IMO that you would not have saved it on your iPhone.
        Thanks

    • Harry Butts

      nobody sponsored RD…..christ….he was begging for ‘gas cards’ and donations before going up there…tho’ it appears that some people sent/lent him some equipment(that never got used..it turned out to be just a weekend camp out with the boys)

  36. Harry Butts

    Robert Lindsay
    November 3, 2014 at 10:30 PM
    No that was a friend of mine who saw it. He is not lying either. He doesn’t lie.

    here are the screen captures of your posts on the 27th…
    http://postimg.org/gallery/uexhh3ai/127a400d/
    as I said I just want to see if that original ‘blue’ faced Bigfoot photo can be seen…reading your posts now, I can’t figure out who the heck talked with RD on the phone and discussed the ‘blue’ face,etc…it seems that the only source of the ‘phone call’ was posted by RD himself?
    I do see Fasano put Shrums’ name into a question by saying Shrum ‘certified’ the body…which now is causing some people to think that Shrum is in on this new scam. Your last post sure gives the impression it was you that talked with RD on the phone….which would mean he would have called you….I think you can see my confusion here from reading the posts.
    bottom line: does your friend have the image?

    • No it was posted by a guy named Rex. He is the one who saw the image. I believe him too. He is an excellent source and he does not lie.

      I never speak with RD ever and have never spoken with him on the phone.

      My friend was shown the image by Rick over some Iphone photo-sharing app. So he does not have the actual image itself.

  37. Harry Butts

    Robert Lindsay
    November 3, 2014 at 11:53 PM
    My friend was shown the image by Rick over some Iphone photo-sharing app. So he does not have the actual image itself.

    Ok……..Rex is the one that had the discussion about the ‘blue-B’ and the image is no where to be seen and Rex didn’t it was important enough to bother to capture/save it.
    is this correct then?
    I just wanted to get to the bottom of ‘blue-B’….and the discussion with RD about the blue face,etc…
    Thanks for responding quickly
    J.L.

  38. Harry Butts

    Robert Lindsay
    November 4, 2014 at 4:51 AM
    Yes, correct.

    Ok…….thank you for clearing that up for me….
    J.L.

  39. Harry Butts

    This is why I wanted to get that blue-b cleared up….
    in case stuff like this happened….
    J.L.
    http://bigfootbusters.blogspot.com/2014/11/does-rick-dyer-have-photo-of-hanging.html

    • big g

      Tim fisano? I thought he and dyer split up after the 2008 incident. On a lighter note 2 hour season premier of finding bigfoot tonight. I know, I know, but hey going to the bfro website started my interest in bigfoot and maybe getting it out there will get other people involved. Maybe somebody important.

  40. k b

    You are absolutely positive on everything you say….how do you manage all these great sources….that would never lie but are always proven wrong. ..lets get some objectivity here. .you dont always have to be right to have an interesting sight

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