Bay Area Guy points out the differences between Organized and Unorganized Violence.
I think that, for the purposes of this thread, it is important to distinguish between organized violence versus unorganized/chaotic violence, since this issue tends to come up.
Many blacks and anti-racists, when presented with high black violent crime rates, will point to the millions slaughtered by Europeans during colonialism, WWI and WWII, genocides, etc.
However, just because a group is violent on a state/macro level doesn’t mean that its individual members are more violent.
A great example that I will use is Imperial Japan.
Imperial Japan slaughtered millions, forcefully “recruited”/abducted thousands of women into sex slavery, sadistically tortured many prisoners/victims, etc.
Black America, as a whole, throughout its history, has not killed anywhere near as many people as Imperial Japan did, and its body count is much lower.
But honestly, all of that considered, who would you feel safer living with? The citizens of Imperial Japan, or people in an average black neighborhood?
Organized violence is horrible, don’t get me wrong. But as far as your everyday life is concerned, you’re more worried about getting accosted, harassed, or menaced on BART by some black guy in Oakland than you are some evil war mongering white politician.
(and yes, anticipating a potential response from Tulio 😉 , I know that there are nasty football hooligans in Europe, violent skinheads in Russia, and other groups of whites who are dangerous on a micro level)
He is right, of course, and I am very tired of this argument.
If you go move into an all-White neighborhood, you are surrounded by a race that genocided the American Indians, enslaved the Blacks, killed millions in colonialism and starts and started wars all over the world. Whites have committed and commit a ton of Organized Violence.
But the crime in that all-White town is likely to be low to nil. So for you, the person living in that town, all that matters in Unorganized Violence, the kind you are likely to deal with very quickly when you leave that White town to move to the Black city across the state.
If you move to Japan or Germany, you are living among a race or ethnicity that committed one of the worst genocides in history. Yet modern day Japanese and Germans commit very little crime, especially violent crime. You quite safe living among them. Living among modern day Japs and Germans, the Rape of Nanking and the Holocaust is little more than a historical matter and of no consequence to you in the present moment at all.
I would like to point out that races and ethnic groups that commit lots of Unorganized Violence are also capable of committing tons of Organized Violence too once they get their hands on some modern weaponry.
More advanced races commit little Unorganized Violence because they create stable, low crime societies, but are capable of tons of Organized Violence due to feelings of superiority, contempt for those seen as lower than them, and the fact that the very advanced state that enables such civilized living also enables superior war-fighting capacity and weapons building.
In other words, advanced societies are advanced all around. They create more civilized living conditions, but when it comes to warfare, their advanced nature also shows through as they fight better and make better weapons than less advanced groups.
In a societal sense, Unorganized Violence is worse. Societies with high levels of Unorganized Violence are so chaotic and crazy that stable and normal civilization barely gets off the ground before it’s grounded by the chaos-causing crime wave. In short, you can’t have a decent society when you have tons of street crime.
On the other hand, more advanced groups with little Unorganized Violence that are capable of Organized Violence have long periods of stability at least on the home front. This is interspersed by warfare that kills a lot of folks, but that’s over soon enough, and things are back being nice and tidy at home once again.
But as groups that commit Unorganized Violence move into the modern era, their capability for mass murder grows. In 100 days, 1 million Tutsis were murdered in Rwanda. They were killed at a rate 2-3 times higher than Germans killed Jews in the Holocaust.