Are Black People Stupid?

A view from the comments, with my comments following:

Before I actually worked with a large population of blacks, I would never have believed that they are as stupid as a whole as they are. In fact, I used to believe in absolute equality of all races. However, some years of working in an office-type environment with lots of blacks has totally changed my views.

I think it’s hard to quantify intelligence, but you can get a fairly good idea of someone’s intelligence by observing how/if they readily absorb information and use it to make logical decisions. Smart people “get it” and can move on. They remember information, can make connections, and apply what they learn.

Give me any other race to train/work with. I don’t care if they are white, Latino, Asian, Indian, Middle-Eastern-there is a very good chance that those individuals will learn fairly quickly, have a modicum of manners, a decent or at least passable work ethic, and will do their freaking jobs.

Training blacks is frustrating for me, because 48 out of 50 of them don’t “get it” the 3rd, 4th, 5th time they are presented with the same information in a slow way that anyone else would grasp. For many of them, when they do finally “get it” they can’t make the logical, big-picture connections that would allow them to really excel at their jobs. I see lots of abysmally poor memories, slow wits, and at best a surface-level understanding of their jobs.

And then they’re lazy and tend to be rude (whenever they can get away with it) on top of it. What’s sad is that I’ve seen this not only in janitors and entry-level clerks, but in higher-level black executives and officers who were smooth enough to rap their way into a high-paid position, but either too stupid or lazy (or both) to actually do their jobs.

If you defend black cognition the way that I used to, I challenge you to work for a few years in an office environment with a large population of them.

This is a very interesting anecdote, and you do hear other things from time to time. This has not exactly been my experience. I worked mostly in teaching. There, the Blacks were generally fellow teachers. At the time, I had heard all of the rumors about Black stupidity, and according to this guy it should apply to Black teachers too, but I did not notice that my Black teachers were stupid at all. Actually, I was looking around for evidence of them being dumb, but I could not really find it.

I also dealt with Black administrators – principals, vice principals, counselors all the way up to the district level and, on a lower level, Black secretaries and whatnot. Some of them struck me as not exactly being geniuses, but they didn’t seem to be idiots. Black teachers and administrators always struck me as the cream of the Black crop, and never once did I think they were stupid. At the very least, they struck me as “at least competent.”

On the other hand, here in California, teachers have to pass a very rigorous exam called the CBEST.Many Blacks and Hispanics fail this exam, hence there are cries that it is racist, but they have not yet gotten rid of it, thank God. Hence, most of the less intelligent Blacks are simply screened out. I remember one Black teacher who seemed to be an alcoholic. He showed movies a lot. They probably should have gotten rid of him, but he was a nice enough guy anyway.

Once I worked on a job site with just me and four other guys, all Black. We were janitors at some aerospace plant. We would work for like 3 hours, then just take off and sit around and play cards the rest of the night. The Black guys all liked me a lot. Most were older, but one was a young guy.

The young Black dude and I would take off and go smoke weed in some out of the way place. The head janitor was an alcoholic. I thought it was funny that these older Blacks would call each other “jigs.” Anyway, they were smart enough to do their jobs and play cards.

I also worked with Blacks at a legal coding place. The Blacks there were all well behaved, and none were particularly stupid. They were about as smart as the Whites there. One guy in particular was my good friend, and he was very smart.

I have also not seen a lot of the storied Black laziness and bad work habits except for the janitors, but as a radical, I thought that was mostly just a protest by some working class guys.

In general, I have found that for some reason, Blacks at work seem to be “smart enough.” Not total idiots but not flaming geniuses either.

I had a Black girlfriend once. At one time, we were discussing marriage. She also was “smart enough,” but she had problems in her college courses, and her BA was only in Homemaking, which she taught. I had to write her college level English class papers for her because apparently she simply could not write them well enough.

At one point, we got in a huge argument. The paper was on a short story written by some Black writer. It was about a man called “Douglass” who never shows up. The women are talking. “Douglass is a man!” Ok, look, obviously this is Frederick Douglass! Literary analogy and all that.

She just could not get it and was furious. She knew all about Douglass, and obviously they were not talking about him. It was as if her mind could not deal with an allegorical level of things and was stuck in concreteness. It was then that I realized the limits of this “smart enough” intelligence.

At the moment, it is true that Blacks are less intelligent than Whites as measured by IQ tests. There is a 13.2 point gap between Black adults and White adults – White IQ = 103, Black IQ = 89.8. It’s not yet proven that this is due to genes, and at some point, Blacks may be able to close the gap.

The author mentions that Latinos seem much smarter than Blacks. But their IQ’s are only a few points higher. Latino IQ = 93, Black IQ = 89.8. Are a few points really going to add up to much of a difference? At the end it boils down to what can we do about this. Probably not a whole lot.

But Blacks can certainly work on the non-IQ based aspects of their work performance such as perceived laziness, coming in late, leaving early, taking time off all the time. With their lower IQ’s, Blacks need to try to make up for that in non-IQ ways by being superior or at least adequate on non-IQ factors. That may tend to ameliorate that IQ stuff.

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537 responses to “Are Black People Stupid?

  1. Shawn

    The adoption studies are the clincher and settle the genetic dispute. For those who are still not convinced shorty genes for IQ be identified in one’s individual DNA.

    The equalists gnashed their teeth.

    • Inca

      The equalists already debunked the racist charlatans

      • Zaphod

        The “equalists” never even came close to doing so. All of the objections were laughably emotional and biased, and devoid of anything remotely resembling critical thought.

    • Some say they weren’t smart enough as Slaves, which is why they were freed. Good enough excuse; slavery was wrong and it was very kind and benelovant of Mr. Lincoln to set them free.

      Of course, they didn’t know where to go after that and naturally had trouble adjusting. Which is why, centuries later, they are entitled to preferred job placement, enhanced test scores and forgiveness for theft, vandalism and the like.

      God Bless diversity.

      • Ann Onymous

        The Irish were taken as slaves to the USA too. And that was after a millenium of being literally dessimated by the English. Black people were slave owner themselves. The word “slave” comes from Slav – because other Europeans used to enslave them. Around the time of the transatlantic slave trade, North African muslim pirates captured a million French and Spanish slaves. When you look into it, every culture and race has been enslaved at some point. Yet only blacks continue to whine and are treated as though they are unique victims. I would argue that, throughout history, the Irish have been treated much worse, and for a longer period of time, than Africans, yet they never get preferential treatment. Also, Muslims had been enslaving sub-Saharan Africans since the 7th century – yet it’s always white people who get the blame. Even though many white races had nothing whatsoever to do with the transatlantic slave trade – to claim “white people” it is racist, because there are different races of caucasians (such as Celts, Nordic, Anglo-Saxon, Basque, Serb etc) and we aren’t all the same. Of the countries that *were* involved (such as France and Britain) the economic systems of that time were such that only the rich individuals directly involved would benefit. The whole countries did NOT benefit. Besides, the countries weren’t even democracies at the time! So why are white people still punished, and black people still treated as unique victims? The Japanese have treated the Chinese appallingly in the past, but China and Chinese people are successful, and the Japanese aren’t continually punished.

        So in conclusion, NO, blacks do NOT deserve preferential treatment, because some of their ancestors were slaves. If that were the case almost everyone on the planet could cry racism and disadvantage and demand “positive discrimination”.

        By the way – in the Congo, blacks are still enslaving each other – especially pygmies – just like they always have done. No one is saying that the entirety of 100’s millions of blacks are evil because of it, like they say of whites.

        • Johnc

          There were many black slaveowners in the American south, something that is not readily acknowledged today.

        • Bigmoemiami

          Let’s just give you a pass and concede that blacks are not deserving of any preferential treatment even though their back breaking work with zero compensation over the course of centuries worth trillions of dollars today is what fueled the mostly textile based industrial revolution around the world. OK, we’ll give you that. What about the shitty treatment they endured post emancipation? including KKK terrorism, lynchngs, constant mistreatment by resentful southern whites, denial of education, denial of resources and facilities afforded to whites such as the Homestead Act, leading to poverty, leading millions of them to flee the South. The answer to which were Jim Crow laws in which the Federal Government participated in systemic apartheid and the constant reminder that Blacks were not people clear into the 60s, There are many alive today who lived through this horror. It is not just something you can just make believe never happened and it has not gone away (you), and yes it does have an effect on standardized testing. And yes, thanks to civil rights legislation and other humanistic policies adopted in the U.S. black I.Q. has risen, because it has been proven that a nurturing environment tends to improve I.Q. (Flynn effect).

        • EPGAH

          As to denial of education, why educate something you only want to get work out of? Even Frederick Douglass admitted it made them less useful as slaves, and even that it made them sadder to be educated.

          Now, though, Blacks don’t WANT to be educated. Truancy Levels are through the roof, and Blacks are more violent/disruptive than others and have to be carried out by cops because the BLACK teacher and BLACK Principal can’t be bothered (Or aren’t allowed?) to discipline their own!

          To be glib, it USED to take the National Guard to get one INTO school, now it takes the National Guard to KEEP them going!

          As to lynching, more whites were lynched than Blacks.
          Even now, thugs attack cops, they get killed.
          White thugs get a slow clap and a “Hail Lord Darwin”.
          Blacks thugs get riots in their “honor”.

          Apartheid keeps the vicious away from the victims.
          As to Civil Rights legislation, you cannot ignore, wish away, or legislate away that Blacks are more violent than whites.
          Even Susan Dlott, A FEDERAL JUDGE who tried to fight Racial Profiling because it “unfairly” (IN HER EYES) targeted Black thugs, was attacked IN HER OWN HOUSE by 3 BLACK thugs–and she actually said that on the 911 call! Does that make her “racist” or does it dash her delusion on the rocky reality?
          Can we call this “Karma” for reality-deniers?

          Until Blacks behave, why not keep them separate?
          Alternately, why not treat them as equal, BUT no more riots when the ones that prove they’re not get taken out of the genepool?
          Remember, America has a long history of pruning the bad from a population and leaving the good.
          Indians haven’t attacked us for the better part of two centuries.
          Japanese haven’t attacked us since WWII.

      • Pedro

        You are an Idiot. The smartest people should get the jobs; and most of them would be Asian, or White.

    • Dave Mowers

      Harvard completed a study into I.Q. by race and found that there was no difference between races in the number or frequency of high I.Q.’s. The only difference is economic, access to education and diet so basically money. You got money or come from money you’ll succeed in America, you don’t you’ll struggle. Harvard even dispelled the Jewish “exceptionalism” garbage that has been spewed for decades now claiming Jews are proportionally smarter than any other race. It was totally bunk. The highest number of I.Q.’s by race are the Chinese and that is because the percentage of I.Q.’s in every race higher than 124 averages 7 points and there are simply more Asians.

      A second study confirmed the reason why more Jews attend Harvard and Yale…Jews control the admissions standards. Big mystery there. They let in more Jews because they are racist and corrupt. This issue is dead, colored people are just as smart as whites.

      • Your ignorant drivel is so laden with absurdities I don’t know where to begin. Stick to your coloring books.

      • KimCND

        No, Dave Mowers, Harvard did no such thing. In fact, Harvard educated scientist, Charles Murray would be the first to tell you that Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQs, higher than even East Asians like the Chinese. Blacks and Hispanics still score significantly lower than all white populations. Afro Americans score higher than sub Saharan Africans likely because most Afro Americans possess white Euro DNA. The old “Jews control….” this or that has been around for eons; perhaps it is true of certain industries, like banking, but like it or not, it’s owing to a combination of their high IQs, inherent industriousness, and willingness to take on work that was at some point in history eschewed by non Jews. Whoever stated that the Irish were brought over to US as slaves just like sub Saharan Africans is either profoundly stupid or egregiously misinformed. No, Irish were not loaded up onto slave ships, dragged over here in chains and put on the auction block. The fact that black Africans were is shameful enough; a sad chapter in humanity, a sin many are guilty of, not just white Americans. The ignoramus who mentioned this must be thinking of when the Irish came here en masse post potato famine and competed with fairly recently freed slaves for jobs, particularly in large Northeastern metropolitan centers like NYC. Many Euro immigrants faced discrimination but its more than a tad bit disingenuous to try and equate that with the experience or suffering of black slaves.

        • Kate

          Kim, your utter ignorance is showing. FYI – the Irish were considered as ‘sub-human’ by the English, just like blacks. In fact many of the politicians made no difference between them at all. The sad fact is that thge horrible treatment of the Irish by the English and the truth behind ‘indentured servants’ (AKA Irish slaves) is ignore and whitewashed (no pun intended) as much as the black slave owners and the white slaves who dies by the hundreds in the sugar cane industry.

          You really should do your research before you spout your ignorant and inaccurate drivel.

          The Story of the Irish Race – Padric Colum
          The Evil Empire:101 ways that England ruined the world – Steven A.Grasse and Penny Rimbuad.
          They were White and they were Slaves: The Untold History of the Enslavement of Whites in Early America – Michael A. Hoffman
          To Shed a Tear : A Story of Irish Slavery in the British West Indies – Lawrence R. Kelleher.

        • And Murray was not a scientist, psychology is an art not a science

        • Jay

          You are all morons. Hellenes or to all of the uneducated folks Greeks, are the smartest of all ethinicities. We gave the world practically everything and are smarter than all of the jews, blacks, spanish, asian combined. Know your places.

      • Testiculosis

        Read “The Bell Curve”. It has references of statistically significant studies, and it disproves everything you wrote.

      • Steve Smith

        Jews are very intelligent people, they are people of European origin, European Jews are the most intelligent, the reason they tend to succeed in life is the fact that they are white, so they take advantage of the privileges of having white skin. The most ironic thing about white privilege is that non whites help perpetuate it, even study of racism published in the mainstream media states different minority groups in America mistrust each other, but feel their relationships with whites are better than with those of other minority groups. For example, East Asians felt tensions with African Americans, but felt their relations with white Americans were on better terms. Hispanics and Blacks have long had racial tensions that the media never discusses, but both groups felt they fared better with whites. I found it hilarious that different non whites helped perpetuate the social dynamic that keeps whites higher up on the social ladder than they, but these same idiots cry racism and fail to see their own beliefs and attitudes maintain the status quo.
        Its actually prejudiced attitudes among non whites that keep whites up in the social ladder. Jews are white so with their high level of intelligence and white skin, its no surprise they are the most successful identifiable group in the United States.
        The only people who discuss white privilege as a social issue are leftist Jews and gentile whites that live in urban areas, ironically, they feel this is wrong but they benefit handsomely from this kind of privilege, the vast majority of interracial couples I see in my city involve a white male or female with a minority male or female, but extremely rare are two different non whites.
        I found it fascinating when a Jewish student at Princeton proclaimed himself a white man, and felt he did not have to feel guilty about being white in America. The hypocrisy of this young brat boggles my mind, because most Jews hold very strong anti white attitudes but when push comes to shove these same people will walk the other way if they run into a minority on a city street. A non Jewish CNN reporter got fired for saying on air that he considers Jews to be white people and not a minority group.

        • Genna

          So European Jews are most successful because they are white and have white privilege. Even in Europe. Where pretty much everyone has been white for millennia. And has persecuted Jews for over a millennia. Makes total sense.

    • censzar

      Yoyo lindsay punk ass boy, first of all . Many factors that could potentially influence the development of intelligence have been advanced as possible causes of the racial IQ gaps. It is generally agreed that both genetics and environmental and/or cultural factors affect individual IQ scores. There is currently no consensus whether genetics play a role in racial IQ gaps, or whether their cause is entirely environmental so your arguments that black people are stupid becausoe of genetics is null dumbass

      • You fail at reading comprehension. You need to go back to school. I never said the IQ differential is due to genes. I say that at the moment, on average, Blacks are less intelligent than Whites. I take no position on whether that is due to genes or environment or whatever.

        Didn’t I ban you Black man?

        • I think intellectuals from less intelligent countries should leave those countries and let them fend for themselves. It will force them to either evolve or die out. They should start new countries so that the stereotypes for low intelligence don’t follow them and make these new countries shining successes.

        • im black, pure african actually, so my views might be a result of stupidity but 1. i dont think IQ is intelligence, because intelligence is a capability to acheive, not the acheivement its self. IQ tests are just like school tests they test what you know, but not how or why, it simply rewards higher scores as higher intelligence without considering will, emotional well being or other numerous variables. imagine a straight A student who gets raped and starts to fail at school, its not that she has suddenly become stupid, she have just lost the will or care
          2.say IQ was intelligence, it would be impossible genetically speaking for it to be race-genetic because there are black people who are mensa members how ever low their numbers. If there is a black gene that makes you stupid and a white gene that makes you intelligent, then a black person should not be able to have an IQ higher than any white person unless they are defective genetically, having one black person in mensa renders 98% of the white population to be defective which does not make sense. what all those super smart IQ people did was use averages to say one race is more intelligent than another, that makes sense when you are dealing with social issues such as behaviour not genes. In grenetics there are no averages thats why you know DNA is the best type of evidence that can be used in court. imagine you are 100% white (all your ancestors have been white)and so is your wife, then you have 20 children 19 of which are white and one is black, would you say “they are all my children because on average they are white”?

        • Another William Playfair Web

          mushawasha-
          Seems like a pretty astute point. Many on some other HBD blogs talk about, and this is very abstract, the IQ tests actually (only) correlate at 0.9 with g or general intelligence, less than perfect…so you’re right.

      • JR

        You must be a ugly lazy nig yourself. I wish i could twist your head right off your criminal body

      • Steve Smith

        Censzar.
        Your language and lack of logic in your argument demonstrates the point brilliantly that blacks tend lack intelligence. I work in education, and found it frustrating to teach young blacks to pursue a real education and real careers rather than become basketball players and rappers.
        I find it funny when blacks claim that conservative whites are their enemy when the people who keep blacks in the ghetto and terrorized by police.

    • Bigmoemiami

      Ben Carson is smarter than you. Case closed. Who cares if on average whites are smarter than blacks, I think it will eventually all even out the closer we can get to equality in access to educational resources which are still woefully unequal. The point is there are plenty of intelligent black people in all areas and professions which shows that blacks have the potential to be just as competent as whites. The assertion that blacks don’t “get it” is a narrow minded perspective from a biased viewpoint.

      • blacks who are smart are always mixed. The average IQ for blacks around the world is 67, American blacks have higher IQ because they are more mixed with other races. With the understanding of our dna, we are discovering the genes that make us smart, soon we will be able to test for these traits, and already indisputable evidence is being presented that show blacks are sub-human for the most part. Sorry, but our civilization will never advance un less we embrace the truth.

        • Hitecron, some points.

          For Blacks to be smart, significant admixture is not ALWAYS required but the case is that admixture is often the case.

          Also, that 67 is the phenotypical IQ, that’s different from genetic IQ. There is speculation that the genetic is possibly 80.

          Also, Blacks aren’t necessarily “sub human” but rather much of the population has tendencies that restricts them from achieving on similar level to other races. Though many could argue that they have m ore pronounced features that are more present among different populations.

          Still you are correct that focusing on facts of racial differences are key in understanding ways to advance.

        • This is just stupid, saying that smart blacks are part white is the most illogical argument ever brought up by illogical people if bern carson is smart because he is part white, how come he is smarter than the MAJORITY of people who are actually white?

  2. LaFleur

    I hadn’t looked at Ankhesen Mie’s blog in some time, but she was quoted elsewhere in a post about the black man in Las Vegas who killed a white man with one punch after the white guy said something about a “black guy in a yellow shirt.”

    http://www.ankhesen-mie.net/2011/07/and-down-goes-massai-mean-massie.html

    First of all, as I was saying in my post about Black Cloud, white people don’t get to decide how a person of color should respond to white racism. You don’t get to make comments about me to me, and then control how I react to them. If I choose to punch you…then you’re getting punched and that’s all there is to it. Understand that when uttering racial comments to a POC, in addition to that POC simply walking away, beating, stabbing, and shooting are also on the menu. Just because you didn’t order them specifically doesn’t mean they won’t be served.

    Fuck what you think you know/heard about POC. If you think that randomly walking up to one of us and mouthing off about our skintone is a good idea, you clearly don’t know dick. Not all POC are the same; ergo, never assume you know whom you’re dealing with. You may very well hit the psycho lottery and wind up drowning in your own blood.

    Would she agree with the white target of a black mob that black people don’t get to decide how outnumbered white people should respond to an attack by a mob? Would she agree with the right to self defense of the Hispanic parking lot attendant who killed a young black man after the man and his father physically assaulted him along with his co-worker?

    If she’s anything like the people who signed this petition, evidently not:

    http://glpiggy.net/2011/07/11/petitioning-street-justice/

    The petition comments are moronic:

    This is horrible, There is no justification for the use of a weapon in this case, he was unarmed, justice must be served to the victim.

    justice will be served. thats not fair self defense with a weapon like that stabbing him ,

    There’s no excuse for murder, self defense is fighting someone off, not stabbing them to death

    Murder! No one should be allowed to use a knife defend themselves against an attack!

    The video clearly shows that the young, buff football player and his burly father provoked the act of self defense by using a snow shovel, a bicycle(!), and finally their fists to assault the much smaller parking attendants.

    I don’t claim to know how representative of black opinion Mie and her commenters are. They are for the most part intelligent enough to write coherent sentences. However, they appear to lack the introspection to consider that white people reading comments like theirs, those on Abagond, the petition site, and similar comments all over the web might just decide that it’s not worth dealing with black people at all. To paraphrase erstwhile Abagond commernter Thad, they increasingly give one the impression that to them all whites are eternally “massah”, and that they won’t be happy until it’s their black boot on whitey’s neck.

    • Bay Area Guy

      @ Lafleur

      Wow, just wow. Oh, man. I no longer get angry with Ankhesen anymore. To me, she’s just flat out amusing now.

      I mean, where to begin?

      For starters, am I the only one who thinks it’s rather presumptuous that a black woman holed up in 96% white West Virginia deems herself the spokesperson for all “POC”?

      Secondly, I love her armchair revolutionary, militant act. I mean, this just is priceless.

      If I choose to punch you…then you’re getting punched and that’s all there is to it.

      HAHA. Yeah, okay. You do that, tough girl.

      Ankhesen talks a lot of shit because she knows she can get away with it, and she knows that the white Americans won’t drastically respond to her BS.

      If white Americans were anything like white Russians, she would be running for cover, and would be lucky to still be alive. She talks a big game, but knows that she has nothing to fear in terms of consequences for what she says.

      Despite living in 96% white West Virginia, she acts as if she doesn’t have to worry about whites around her reading her crap. Just goes to show how much leniency minorities like her get to enjoy in this country.

      • Bay Area Guy

        I don’t claim to know how representative of black opinion Mie and her commenters are.

        I am genuinely curious as to how representative of black opinion Ankhesen is, because I don’t really know.

        I am willing to wager that most are nowhere as extreme (at least rhetorically/publicly) as she is, but I can’t help but suspect that most fundamentally agree with her.

        However, they appear to lack the introspection to consider that white people reading comments like theirs, those on Abagond, the petition site, and similar comments all over the web might just decide that it’s not worth dealing with black people at all.

        Agreed. If most blacks are indeed like Ankhesen, then I’m going avoid them like the plague (not that I seek their company anyway). They’re just not worth the potential trouble.

        they increasingly give one the impression that to them all whites are eternally “massah”, and that they won’t be happy until it’s their black boot on whitey’s neck.

        Yeah, as Thad also said, Ankhesen is basically a frustrated totalitarian, and would gladly send whites to the gulag given the power to do so.

        You know what? I kind of hope more whites do read her blog, if only to see what she and her ilk intend for them.

        • Bay Area Guy

          You don’t get to make comments about me to me, and then control how I react to them.

          Likewise, Your Highness, you don’t get to decide how certain whites respond when black people with chips on their shoulder decide to attack them for slights, real or perceived.

          Clearly, it’s not always a good idea for blacks to try to avenge every insult.

        • Bay Area Guy

          Ah, how I’d love to see Ank run into the female equivalent of Epic Beard Man one of these days! She wouldn’t know what hit her!

      • FG

        I’m pretty sure for most West Virginians economic concerns trump bourgeois identity politics. These folks are more worried about such issues as whether the local coal mine will close down than about the cultural influence of “CRT”.

  3. It depends on the filtering, of course. I remember in the Army I didn’t notice a lot of difference because everybody had to pass the AFQT, and that culled probably a majority of Blacks but only maybe 20% of Whites. The same goes for any group that has had to pass through a winnowing-out of any kind. That’s why Americans think Hindostani are especially smart, because to get here they have to pass Maxwell’s Demon, so to speak. And percentages are extremely important to a group, if not to the individual. If you need, say, three percent of your population to be civil engineers, in order to get that necessary work done, you’d better have more than three percent of the population with that level of intelligence. Here’s some discussion of the difference between smart people and stupid people.
    http://ex-army.blogspot.com/2011/04/stupid-vs-smart.html

    • louie jacuzzi

      the characteristics described in that post don’t come from abstract reasoning skills, they come from cultural values, and various motivation factors. I thought and behaved the way described in that post until I was taught otherwise; now I’m working on a second bachelors degree, maintain a decent job, have no kids, and keep my bills paid. That has little to do with “abstract reasoning” , and 90%(or more) to do with what I was taught.

  4. johnUK

    Robert here in Scotland I can’t remember any reports of Pakistani gangs terrorising native whites or minority groups causing any trouble although granted we don’t have many blacks with most of the crime and gangs being white especially in Glasgow which is pretty notorious.

    Glasgow itself is a shithole.

    Why do you think that is?

    • tulio

      Interesting. I’ve heard that Scotland is the stabbing capital of the world. People get shit-faced in the pubs then fight or stab over anything. From this video it doesn’t look like a place I’d want to visit. I think people sometimes forgot just how many fucked up whites there are. I was hanging with a couple people from Galway, Ireland last week. They said their town has a lot of “hoods” as I would call them, but they are white of course. I hear East Germany is pretty fucked up too as far as thuggish and skinhead youth running amok. And let’s not even get started on E. Europe, places like Slovakia, Albania, Belarus, Russia, Ukraine, etc.

      • johnUK

        ”I hear East Germany is pretty fucked up too as far as thuggish and skinhead youth running amok.

        Probably got to do with the fact that in East Germany men outnumber women who have migrated to the west or western Europe for better jobs.

        • Matt

          I’m wondering why the men wouldn’t be headed elsewhere in pursuit of opportunity too. WTF is wrong with men these days?

        • Joe

          Honestly the whole neo Nazi thing in Germany is blown way out of proportion, I spent a couple of months in Dortmund, which is supposed to the Neo Nazi capital of Germany and never really saw much in the way of Nazi violence, I did see a few skinheads there but for the most part they seem to keep to themselves. I did however see a huge Muslim population there who had absolute contempt for those who are not of the Muslim faith. I honestly am a lot more suspicious of young Muslim males than I am of German males with shaved heads.
          As far as US blacks are concerned, a large number of them are indeed stupid, and its liberal whites who live in a dream world thinking that its American society that is screwing them over all the time. We have a black President who was elected not once but twice with commanding majority wins. Despite his mediocre to poor performance as President, anyone who criticizes Obama is suspected of being a bigot and a racist. Blacks often get preferential treatment in employment and education.
          Before you judge me as a bigot, I worked for years with a lot of black people and witnessed their hypocritical attitudes first hand, they often treat other non white people with contempt and suspicion.

  5. MWethman

    I worked in an HIV clinic in inner city Baltimore some years ago. The majority of the staff was black, and the majority of those blacks were imbeciles (though gregarious and fun to work with once I realized we had different ideas of what constitutes work). However, the intelligent blacks we got didn’t last long; most used it as a stepping stone to getting a good government position. And we had a policy where we FAVORED ex-con applicants because theycould better relate to the client population. So major filtering going on there.

    • Gay State Girl

      And we had a policy where we FAVORED ex-con applicants because theycould better relate to the client population. So major filtering going on there.

      LOL

  6. tulio

    I have spoke to whites who have defended their black coworkers as being equally competent. On a slightly different tangent, I know a white school teacher that teaches in a mostly poor black school. I asked him if the kids in his class are unruly are difficult to control(as is public perception). I told him don’t be politically correct and tell me the real deal if it’s bad, we are long time friends and I won’t hold it against him. He had nothing but good to say about the classroom behavior of his black students.

    My point here is that there is no monolithic white opinion on the competence and behavior of black workers and students. I think these perceptions can vary widely based on geographic location, industry and average income levels.

    • tulio

      And also of course, there’s no monolithic black opinion towards white people. At least not in behavior. Most of us may have some racial hangups that come from a legacy of slavery and oppression, but when it comes to one on one interaction, there’s no generalizations to be made. Some blacks prefer to stay away from whites and have no interest and being friends with or socializing with them anymore than they have to, and some blacks I know seem to prefer hanging with whites or at least don’t care one way or the other. Some will say racism is everywhere, and some will say it exists but doesn’t happen to them on a daily basis.

  7. seedofjapheth

    Black people are not stupid. I don’t know why among some circles it is fashionable to bash blacks but blacks are not stupid.

    • Lamont

      Thank you. I am black. I have friends from all walks of life and I have a love for all my friends and their diversities. I believe every person is intelligent for their passion. I have a passion for studying the laws of my land and I am diligent about it. I have probably forgotten more things than this man who wrote this article will ever learn. I believe it’s not just intelligence but awareness that’s a factor. for example most blacks don’t fall for dumb ship like that 9/11 stupid lie and other dumb things thrown at us. though we have our group of dumbies just like all races but for the most part. and just to give an example: how many people wondered why did secret service allow president bush to sit in that classroom when they knew another plane was still in the sky while they were in a place that was planned like 3 or more days beforehand? if you were secret service would you have kept the president there are got him to a new undisclosed location? I believe most black people would tell you they would have moved him to somewhere else.

  8. Gay State Girl

    Lindsay
    You’re treading on very thin ice…
    Actually I took courses at CC with American Blacks as well as non American blacks (from the Caribbean and Africa) find the Non American blacks (who have less white genes) are more ambitious and serious than American blacks. WN’s often contradict themselves by saying integration is not good for blacks, but the black gene pool benefits from white genes. Choose one viewpoint and stick to it.

    • louie jacuzzi

      Thx state girl for pointing that out, iq is what it is, but disposition is a different story, and I find it odd, that non american have a more workable disposition- which leads me to believe that there’s sthg wrong the american environment, or at least “white genes”

      • Gay State Girl

        I never said there was anything wrong with “white genes,” or suggesting they worsen blacks. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of cerrain WNs. If they truly believe blacks are not well served by integration, they must walk the walk.

    • RaceTraitor...LOL

      Interesting. Environmental/social/cultural factors would seem to reasonably explain this. It makes sense that in an indigenous African culture there might be a higher emphasis on work ethic than in the States. People of your own race and culture are responsible for farming, housebuilding, and otherwise sustaining your livelihood, and there’s no reason to think that working hard won’t bring you the same results. However, in America, there’s not such reason for optomism. They’re born into less (money-wise) in a non-dominant group who’s routinely stereotyped in a society where you rely on the dominant group more often than not for farming, housebuilding, etc., and you don’t see many examples in the media of people like you who are successful except those who are successful for negative reasons that White people find interesting (i.e. gangsta rap, which certainly didn’t become a lucrative market from poor minorities liking it). Regardless of what opportunity there may be, it’s reasonable for people in that situation to feel that working hard doesn’t pay off.

      What you inheret largely defines the opportunities you receive. I’m middle class, not because I worked my way here from poverty, but because I grew up in a middle class family who could afford to feed me well, enroll me in activites that boost IQ and social skills (sports, music, etc.), and send me to college, all the while surrounded by similar folk. Which is the same experience of most middle class people. How easily we forget. I also got my first good out of college job through family connections, which is how most people get their first good job. How easily we forget.

      I’m curious to see a study comparing Black IQ with White IQ of the same class/environment. I mean, it’s like comparing a minority serf in England with the King of England, instead of to an English serf. The results will obviously be strikingly disproportionate.

      • Mike

        It’s already been done 100 times, dumb dumb. The whites always win. The poorest whites, vs the richest blacks, the whites always win. Whites are smarter than blacks. Tough break.

  9. johnUK

    The Origins of White People by a black dude.

  10. johnUK

    Robert blacks can’t be that stupid after all they built one of the greatest civilisations to ever exist in ancient Egypt. Lol!.

  11. Jason

    The problem is that racists dont want the inevitable political-racial realignment to match the demographic changes of the past 30 years. That is why white racists are freaking out now when they did not freak out that much during the post-civil rights 70s and 80s. They dont want the white-black binary to collapse. They dont want to surrender to demographic logic. Politics always lags behind demographics by one generation. They are trying to prevent the realignment that will occur when more moderate younger generations of post-jim crow whites and post-civil rights blacks, as well as the greater portion of the hispanic and asian population reach the age of political leadership.

    • LaFleur

      “Inevitable political-racial realignment”? My popcorn is ready.

      Questions, questions.

      How are Mestizos going to call the shots when half of them don’t finish high school? With no education, how will they ever be represented among those who keep the US power grid and infrastructure functioning? Numbers are only part of the equation.

      How interested are Asians, most of whom graduate from high school in numbers above the US average, going to be in the grievance politics of Hispanic and black political leaders? How eager do you think Asians will be to pay for all the benefits the more numerous Mestizos are likely to vote for themselves? How much do you expect high-achieving Asians, who don’t benefit from collegiate affirmative action, to care about fixing the educational achievement gap? Why would they want to share power with Mestizos?

      We’ll also see how moderate post-Jim Crow whites remain, when they’re up to their necks in college loan debt, and are expected to keep confessing to and paying for America’s Original Sin. Middle class SWPL whites, thanks to the neoliberal economics they support, are a rapidly shrinking class. They’ll only be pacified by the Matthew Yglesiases of the world for so long.

      Antiracist crusaders are so entertaining.

      • Bay Area Guy

        How interested are Asians, most of whom graduate from high school in numbers above the US average, going to be in the grievance politics of Hispanic and black political leaders?

        That’s an interesting question, Lafleur.

        On the one hand, the organized Asian American community (ie. groups like the Asian Law Caucus) has embraced the black grievance model to a smaller extent. Ditto for professional Asians such as Frank Wu and the late Ronald Takaki, as well as people at blogs like racialicious, restructure, zuky, Angry Asian Man (though he’s generally pretty mild and reasonable), etc.

        But even they, with the exception of zuky types, are not as dogmatic or rhetorically confrontational as blacks and Hispanics.

        Also, based on my extensive experience with Asians, they do tend to swing more to the liberal side (as evidenced by about 60% of them voting against prop. 209 in California).

        However, at the same time, they generally don’t have very high opinions of blacks and Hispanics. It’s hard to say for certain what their attitudes towards white people are, because they definitely don’t publicize them in front of me, though they generally don’t come across as anti-white, and race is generally not a problem.

        The thing I will say about Asians though is that most (with few exceptions) could care less about “social justice” or restitution for blacks/Hispanics. They definitely will not support programs that benefit blacks/Hispanics at their expense. They won’t tolerate the undermining of their education in vain efforts to narrow the “achievement gap.”

        • Gay State Girl

          I agree.

        • Bay Area Guy

          Also, based on what I’ve read from Steve Farron’s “The Affirmative Action Hoax” from Jew Among You’s blog, Asians in fact DO benefit from affirmative action.

          We’ll also see how moderate post-Jim Crow whites remain, when they’re up to their necks in college loan debt, and are expected to keep confessing to and paying for America’s Original Sin.

          Yeah, that is interesting. I think one can definitely say that white America is at its most radicalized and alienated state in history.

          Compared to blacks, who are generally optimistic about the future, a large percentage or majority of whites see this country’s best days as being behind it, think that their kids will have fewer opportunities to succeed than they did, now see anti-white bias as a bigger problem than anti-black bias, and only 1/5 whites believe that the growth of the non-white population is a strength for the U.S.

          To the extent that whites were generous during the 60s/70s, they were because they economy was still strong and whites were still demographically dominant. They could afford to be a bit generous.

          Now, with the economy in the shitter and white America slowly but surely becoming a minority, white America isn’t going to embark on massive anti-non-white pogroms (as Tim Wise types would have it), but they certainly won’t be in the mood to go out of their way to help non-whites either.

          As you hinted at, Lafleur, the question I have is what this rainbow coalition will do once the big bad white man goes down, considering that they have little else in common otherwise?

          Will we have a Southeast Asia/Latin America type situation where Asians (and the few whites still around) are the “market dominant minority” that controls the wealth while uneducated Hispanic Mestizos are poor but dominate politically?

          Hard to say, but the future ain’t looking too bright.

        • Bay Area Guy

          How are Mestizos going to call the shots when half of them don’t finish high school? With no education, how will they ever be represented among those who keep the US power grid and infrastructure functioning? Numbers are only part of the equation.

          And that’s what these open border turds fail to understand.

          They live in a mental world where illegal Hispanics have a static existence and will happily pick strawberries and mow lawns for all eternity.

          What they fail to realize is that these poor and uneducated illegals give birth to a shitload of future poor and uneducated kids. These kids, who now comprise about 50% of California’s student body, greatly underperform academically, often drop out, sometimes join gangs, and more often than not are a drain on society.

          You can’t analyze California’s educational demise without taking this into account.

          And of course, these “love knows no borders” types insist that we have nothing to worry about, because immigration is in fact down. What they fail to mention is that while that may be true, the illegals who are here keep having kids. So the illegal immigrant/anchor baby population rises regardless.

          (and of course, the “don’t worry, immigration isn’t too out of control” crowd fed us the same shit with the 1965 Immigration Act, insisting that “oh, don’t the demographic balance of the country won’t be radically altered.” Yeah, well, it’s altered)

        • Bay Area Guy

          *oh, don’t worry,

        • Gay State Girl

          In my experience, younger privileged whites are extremely naive and optimistic, partly because they have been cooped in school and related activities and have never been exposed to the working world, and never been allowed to think for themselves.

  12. Jason

    I dont think you fully understood what I was saying. I was not saying that post jim-crow whites would remain moderate while blacks become more militant. Post jim-crow generations of whites would remain moderate at least as far as black-white relations are concerned because post-civil rights generations of blacks are much more moderate and much less militant than than their predecessors. White racists are endangering this because they dont want the historical centrality of white/black race relations to be displaced. I and many other younger blacks do not want a new generation of sharptons to dominate the black community.

  13. Jason

    The Problem is that whites dont realize that immigration has replaced blach/white relations as the main racial issue in america. Whites for some reason dont want to focus on illegal immigration.

    • Bay Area Guy

      Whites for some reason dont want to focus on illegal immigration.

      Really?

      I find that hard to believe, considering that poll after poll (not that polls are exactly scientific, but anyway) shows that a large majority of white America wants immigration reduced, PERIOD, particularly illegal immigration.

      There have also attempts by several states (most famously, or infamously if you prefer, Arizona) to cut down on illegal immigration. These certainly weren’t due to the efforts of non-whites, I can assure you.

    • LaFleur

      I agree with BAG that white people are very focused on illegal immigration.
      It’s just that if you try to discuss it in public, you get called a Teabagger or a Nazi. The cultural left-dominated MSM has been pretty effective in shutting down any mainstream discussion of immigration. People who divert from the party line on Daily Kos get shouted down. MSNBC is militantly pro-amnesty. I’ve tried to discuss the effect of illegal immigration on the black working class with them but most cultural left-inspired liberals are more interested in feeling good about their opinions than any real world consequences.

      Plenty of non-racialist white people are aware that illegal immigration is a bigger threat than the “Black Run America” hype from Stuff Black People Don’t Like. We’re aware that black people are only 13% of the population and not growing much in number.

      One thing I really hate about the multiculturalist project is that cultural leftists insist on broadening its scope though they’ve had ZERO success with any aspect of it so far. The black underclass is worse off than it was 40 years ago. Whatever one thinks of black people in general, they didn’t ask to come here and they are our fellow Americans. You’d think a compassionate left would focus on doing ONE FUCKING THING RIGHT before importing even more poverty. Cultural leftism is about feeling good about yourself, not about helping other people. Also, they think they’re fighting the good fight, but they’re just useful idiots for corporate globalism.

      • Jason

        Our Current Immigration policies are clearly disfunctional. Open borders types dont realize that the status quo on immigration is simply unsustainable, and is starting to trigger a backlash. Immigration is going to be one of the main issues over the next decade or so, corporations cannot simply be allowed to continue importing cheap labor just because they dont want to pay american workers.

      • Bay Area Guy

        Also, they think they’re fighting the good fight, but they’re just useful idiots for corporate globalism.

        Exactly, because guess who else supports mass immigration and the dissolving of borders? Yes, that’s right, neoliberal corporate elites.

        As I’ve said before, leftists would be amazed if they learned just how much their rhetoric conformed to corporate interests.

        But of course, making sure somebody doesn’t dislike illegals is more important than ensuring opportunities for American born workers.

        • Jason

          Neoliberal Corporate Elites dont give a damn about everyday Americans. If anything, corporate interests consider everyday Americans to be a roadblock to their goals. There is a sizable conservative black sentiment that favors a compromise on affirmative action in order to focus on handling the border, but their existence is never mentioned in the media.

  14. uncle joe

    @BAG
    With all due respect, how the hell do Asians benefit from affirmative action?
    We get hurt by it, since our spots are squeezed out by underperforming
    NAMs while we still need to get near perfect SAT etc. to even be considered.
    That kike has a lot of nerve saying that, since kikes are famous for nepotism and ethnic favoritism in colleges and in the workplace.

    • Gay State Girl

      Oh buck up.

      You take lessons from Foxman in self victimization.

      I actually attended elementary school with many Asians, and the schools went to great lengths to accomodate them.

  15. Bay Area Guy

    @ Uncle Joe

    Well, here’s the passage from “The Affirmative Action Hoax.” I don’t claim to be an expert on this. Feel free to disagree.

    http://jewamongyou.wordpress.com/2010/04/28/asians-are-beneficiaries-of-affirmative-action/

    What’s interesting is that even though a majority (not an overwhelming majority, but still a majority) of Asians support affirmative action and voted against prop. 209 in California, they have tremendously benefited from the banning of affirmative action.

    Black and Hispanic enrollment at UC’s has slightly declined, but not dramatically.

    Ironically, whites have been the biggest losers since prop 209, and their numbers at UC’s have plummetted since then.

    (although considering that the white population is much older than other populations, and whites kids are only 27% of California’s young students, they’re actually not as underrepresented at UC’s as I previously thought)

    The real winners have been Asians. Now, of course, you can rightly argue that Asians just outhustle everyone else. I also happen to think that selective immigration plays a role.

    (ie. most Asian immigrants, like most legal immigrants in general, already come to the U.S. with money and education, and thus their Asian American are more likely to be raised by college educated professionals than kids of other races)

    But at least here in California, at UC’s, Asians don’t really have to worry about underperforming NAM’s taking away spots from them.

  16. Only ever seen dumb whites in my life but never a dumb black.

  17. Every race has smart and dumb people they can’t help it. I feel sorry for the dumb people because they don’t have a chance in life they only get crappy jobs. Remember to always be nice to the dumb people because they are the one’s that will wipe our behinds when we get old.

    • Zaphod

      hah. and also because we might be the dumb people in the next life…if there is such a thing. or for no other reason than to not be an a__hole.

  18. Jason

    But Whites have acquired a messed up view of the world which sees as enemies the groups that threaten europe the least, While at the same time being much less hostile to those groups that actually do threaten the existence of the west. You often hear racist whites be racist against jews, blacks, and latinos, but never show hostility toward such nations as Iran, Arabs or the communist block of the PRC and DPRK.

    • Dota

      If you feel that Arabs and Persians are hostile to the west while the jews are pro-west then you’re by far the biggest retard that’s drifted to this blog

    • Bay Area Guy

      You often hear racist whites be racist against jews, blacks, and latinos, but never show hostility toward such nations as Iran, Arabs or the communist block of the PRC and DPRK.

      Jesus, you sound like a neocon.

      Arabs and Iran have not harmed or threatened me in any way, shape, or form. If we would just get our meddling asses out of the Middle East and stop wiping Israel’s ass, they’d have no reasons to want to hurt us anyway.

      China is a threat to the West, but it’s really more of an authoritarian Capitalist than Communist country.

      Still, I get along with Chinese people and Chinese Americans just fine. They’ve done me no wrong.

      And yeah, as Dota pointed out, if you seriously think that Jews are pro-west in contrast to those irredeemably anti-Western Ay-rabs, then you need to do your homework.

      There also aren’t large numbers of poor and uneducated Middle Eastern immigrants overcrowding this country, using up services, and dragging down the education of states like California.

  19. uncle joe

    BAG, would you admit that China is a threat to the “West” to the extent that the Jewnited Snakes is intent on maintaing an empire in Asia? You acknowledge that Arabs and Persians would not hate the U.S. if we didnt’t meddle in the Mideast and prop up the kikes. Wouldn’t the same princple apply to the Asia-Pacific region?

  20. christ, now i remember why i haven’t been to this site for a few months now. everytime i come, i see shit that just riles me up so bad. Epic Beard Man is the SHIT!

  21. Nunya Business

    It’s comments like those in the original post that maintain insecurity in many Blacks. Like who should really give a piece of goat’s shit about what an average white man (with NO power) thinks about black people? I am a black person with a terminal degree and the VAST majority of white folks I have encountered in business have no damned clue what they are doing. Do I think that warrants a study on their overall intelligence levels? Nope. Do I still maintain Whites as the ultimate authority on any and every damned thing? Not at all. I understand quite well that while the millions of white, brown and black rats are running around trying to assert their superiority or equality, the elite is raking in profits and using the media to fuel your pointless debates. So go right ahead and waste your time on pseudoscience.

    • Zaphod

      All of that is entirely consistent with the implications of averages and exceptions. Congratulations on your success, but it doesn’t contradict any of the concepts of race realism (a.k.a. reality).

  22. Justin Gates

    I’ll tell you what’s stupid. Actually spending the time to write a blog post on if a “whole race of people” are stupid. Last time I checked, racism is the inability to see groups as individuals. Yes, I’m black and have an MBA from Stanford, does that make me stupid?

  23. bsmeter

    This is a ridiculous claim. I think there is a culturally different mindset, but I definitely know that not all “black” people are incompetent. The black Africans are incredibly smart, black Americans on the other hand seem to have the mindset of not wanting to do well. I think between all they hear about discrimination and about the statistics that say they are dumb, black Americans develop a defeatist attitude. The potential therefore becomes skewed and the motivation dissipates.

    • Zaphod

      “…black Africans are incredibly smart…”

      Yeah, I guess that’s why Africa is such a paradise of technology, literature, science, peace, and civilization, and there’s such a low rate of famine, poverty, violence, illiteracy, squalor, and ignorance.

      If you’re referring to the elite black Africans who immigrate to the states and other developed nations, then yes…they are leaps and bounds above the native black populations. Generally hard-working, decent, and fairly intelligent people…but they are the top 1-5% of the entire African population.

      • mike

        totally agree with your comments..
        average deep black african iq is 70 and 85 avearge for black americans due to slave owners interbreeding with them..

        high iq in blacks is very rare..

        for example for every twenty white men with iq of over 125 will find one black man.. Google it yourself.. I am a genetic expert.. these are facts

        a black neighborhood has ten times the crime
        a black man is 8x more likely to have hiv
        mixed babies have average iq of 90 which is low.. and uglier if u ever studied science on beauty.

  24. Zaphod

    Don’t forget, either, that the blacks in an office environment are not representative of the larger population; they are going to be much better educated and more intelligent on average. Those who insist that there is no difference in average intelligence are inevitably those who have either no experience with blacks, or their experience has been limited to the above-average subsets found in universities and professional settings.

    To believe that 100,000+ years of adaptation to radically different environments would have zero effect on anything other than skin color is profoundly ignorant to begin with.

  25. Daniel Greene

    When I was a black kid I was perplexed by claims that blacks were less intelligent than other groups mainly because from my own experience it wasn’t true. Most of my parents, aunts and uncles had college degrees, some from Ivy League schools; my siblings graduated from elite engineering schools, two of my closest black friends went to Harvard, one went to study medicine, the other economics. I was in H.S. honors classes with plenty of blacks, Asians, whites, etc. I can go on and on but my point is that whenever I came across ‘research’ that stated that blacks were less intelligent, it was easy for me to dismiss it as irrational racism dressed up in scholarship.

    However, I have since grown up, travelled and worked in different parts of the country and have undergone experiences that, in all honesty, have led to me to reconsider the research that I initially dismissed as ‘racist’. I have always and still consider myself to be a proponent of black empowerment. I actively work to encourage black uplift and social advancement; but I must confess, I’ve reached a level of frustration where I now avoid hiring African-Americans, especially the women. I used the term ‘African-American’ intentionally to distinguish folks with a particular social history that is different and distinct from others who identify as ‘black’.

    What did not occur to me as a kid was that nearly all the blacks I knew and considered highly intelligent, were immigrants. Though my friends, classmates, and I were all born and grew up in the U.S., our parents did not. This was the key ingredient that allowed us to possess a non-African-American world-view and to embrace the kind of values and habits that can generate opportunities for success. My black wife, who I met later in life, attended an elite high school, is an Ivy League graduate, and is one of the top performers at a major investment firm. Her parents also happen to be Jamaican immigrants.

    I have indeed met many highly intelligent and successful African-Americans; however, even with many of them, I find that they possess a particular cultural world-view and attitude that inhibits their intellectual potential. A Haitian-American friend who works for a major pharmaceutical company was complaining to me about his wife, who he met in college. He was feeling overwhelmed from being the sole breadwinner of the family, and was concerned that his wife seemed to have no interest in working. My wife and I told him that was because his wife is African-American. He laughed in agreement. My friends situation is not unique, and there are plenty of women from varied racial, ethnic and cultural groups who finds way to latch on to professional men to avoid working, but the point is that the laughter was a tacit acknowledgment of a trend we find among too many African-Americans.

    Many who point out the IQ difference between blacks and whites state that the gap is due largely to genetics. If this is true, I don’t know it to be true from my own experiences. When I was a child my father tortured me with math drills and reading assignments in addition to whatever schoolwork I had. He created his own math workbooks for me to complete. Today, if I send my father e-mail, he will correct my grammatical and spelling errors, then e-mail his corrected version back to me. My black friends and I in high school commiserated with each other because we had the same experiences with our parents. My wife said her father scorned her when she didn’t graduate with honors from the elite high school that only people with high IQ scores could enter into.

    What I find among too many African-Americans is an easy acceptance of incredibly low standards. Parents seem to be content with their children passing; meanwhile they’re actually failing. In my mentoring work with African-American children, I demand only ‘A’s, and though they don’t always earn the ‘A’, they almost always stop failing. In addition, closing the IQ gap is not only about setting high standards, it’s also about instilling a confidence that ones mind has the ability to discern order out of what seems disordered. The only element that is required to facilitate this ability of the mind is effort. Many groups seem to have this epistemological subtext to their cultures but I find it virtually non-existent among African-Americans.

    So, in response to the question, ‘are blacks stupid’? No, at least not innately. But does culture make black people stupid? You betcha! And not only does present day black American culture engender stupidity, but also criminality and mental illness.

    Before I close, let me clear up one point. Though my peers and I may have painfully benefited from having immigrant parents, what cannot be overlooked is the fact that the black countries that our parents fled from also had their own dysfunctional elements. That’s why our parents left. Therefore I don’t want to create the impression that non-American black cultures are automatically superior to African-American culture. However, I think what we can extrapolate is that immigrants tend to be a self-selected group of people who possess a world-view that increases the chances for success in the United States.

    • zaphod

      Every single shred of evidence supports the common-sense observation that blacks are, indeed, *innately* less intelligent; please explain your reason for your bizarre assertion to the contrary.

      • Daniel Greene

        As I said in my original post, I believe that much of the research that has shown that the blacks on average tend to demonstrate low intelligence to be credible. But to say that “every single shred of evidence supports the common-sense observation that blacks are, indeed, *innately* less intelligent;”, suggests that blacks are hopelessly and irredeemably genetically unintelligent. If that’s what you mean, then I disagree. I believe blacks have the same potentials as any other group of people. This opinion is based on how I understand the evidence, as well as from my own observations and experiences.

        Behavior is the net output of constant decision-making. The quality of decisions is determined by a number of factors and significant among them is IQ. There’s no doubt heredity plays a significant factor to the formation of IQ. I know a black woman who graduated from Harvard MBA and was not at all surprised when she said her black grandfather possessed three PhDs. It’s not earth shattering news whenever we see smart parents who produce naturally smart children. However, I believe many people significantly underestimate the impact of culture and environment on the formation of intellect and personality. And I think that the extent to which this shapes IQ is mostly unknown. White nationalists will convince us that by virtue of being white, a pair of white babies when left alone in a desert will grow up having the preternatural ability to program iPods, sail ships, write philosophy, build aqueducts, etc. This of course is nonsensical because, first, this view overlooks how all human beings need to be trained through enculturation with knowledge beliefs and values, which come from preceding generations. And, secondly, it overlooks how environmental opportunities; constraints and incentives guide technological, cultural and genetic development.

        Despite the *innateness* of intelligence, evidence has shown that it can be malleable. For example, it has been reported recently that the average IQ of women has surpassed men. For decades the reverse was true, yet if IQ is unchangeably innate, then how is it that the innate IQ of women could ever surpass men? (Interestingly the IQ of black women has generally and consistently been higher than black men.) Also, its long been documented that the IQ of the oldest child tends to be higher than his/her siblings. Even in incidences when the first child dies, the IQ of the second child tends to increase. What’s to account for this? There’s also the well-known Flynn effect, which notes the increase of IQs among all racial groups across generations.

        Let me be clear. I make no apologies for modern day black behavior, which can frustratingly and embarrassingly be described as dysfunctional and pathological. As I said in my initial post, it was from my tiresome encounter with this behavior, which led me to conclude that the data on black cognition to have validity. But as I also said, I believe black culture to play a big role in inhibiting black potential. And when I talk about black culture, I’m not talking about the norms, values and traditions of anyone who happens to be black, I’m talking about a very specific mindset that can be found in any group of people but is found disproportionately among blacks. For example, anyone who’s ever interacted with Dominicans and Puerto Ricans can tell you that despite their similarities (Spanish, Caribbean, racially mixed) these groups are worlds apart from each other. Though both are racially mixed, the Dominican Republic is a much racially ‘blacker’ country than Puerto Rico, yet Dominicans are generally reputed to be more industrious and virtuous than Puerto Ricans. In fact, Puerto Ricans in the U.S. have lower average incomes than African-Americans! What accounts for this? I think part of the answer is that Dominicans, despite their dark skin and nappy hair, don’t consider themselves black. Dominicans are often accused of living in denial of their racial lineage, but nevertheless you’ll be hard-pressed to find the darkest Dominican to admit that he’s black, therefore, by default, he doesn’t adopt the grievance mindset that is prevalent among many of those who identify as black. Also Puerto Ricans have lived in a perpetual welfare state for several generations and this has produce a people who are so accustomed to an entitlement and dependency style of existence that they reject independence from the U.S. even when given the opportunity. (I believe the decision over Puerto Rican nationhood actually belongs to Americans who pay taxes to support this commonwealth island, but I digress….)

        Anyways, this post is much longer than I intended so I’ll stop here but I just wanted to touch on a few reasons why despite the reported low IQs of blacks it does not mean that blacks are innately unalterably less intelligent.

        • Rational

          Like many other similar arguments you fail to understand the concept of averages. Nobody is claiming that every single white person is smarter than every single black person. What we are saying is that on average blacks are less intelligent than whites. I consider that an irrefutable fact and EVERYTHING supports it. Now, you may as well be smarter than me and that is fine, but what you fail to understand is that only the best of the best Africans come to the US. Compared to Hispanics, they have no common border with the US, so not everyone who decides to immigrate can come in. Apparently you fall in that group.

          Let me summarize your argument. My family and some of my friends have degrees from Ivy League schools, so blacks cannot be less intelligent as a race. Do you see now why your argument fails? I would assume a smart men like you would not fall for that fallacy.

          Now let me tell you why I think the blacks are less intelligent than whites and all other races for that matter.

          No test or evidence in history points to the fact that blacks are equal or more intelligent than whites. All the evidence and the testing says otherwise. (Black`s Excuse- the Test is culturally biased)

          Every single black majority country( with a population above 300 000 people) is a complete and utter failure by every single measure. (Black`s excuse- it is Slavery and the “White man” fault).

          Black minorities in every single developed country are on the bottom of every single measure of well being and progress. (Black`s Excuse- We are discriminated against. White people are racist.) All that despite the fact that the US has done A LOT to help the blacks. Affirmative action etc…
          Pretty much every black majority city in the US suffers from poverty and high crime rate. Detroit is the prime example.

          Blacks have done almost nothing(compared to the other races) for the advancement of human civilization. Now, because Blacks again blame slavery for that I will only talk about their “civilization” before colonization.
          So, prior to the Europeans coming to Africa, blacks had not invented a written language. They even had no idea what a wheel is. Agriculture, if you can call it that way was primitive.

          Blacks ARE less intelligent than all other races. This is not politically correct to say, but it is the TRUTH. Do you know what is funny about that? My arguments cannot be disproved without my opponent resorting to racist accusations or other ad hominem attacks. Do you know why my arguments cannot be disproved? Because they are facts.

  26. VISIT THE ZOO

    want to learn about the black race ???? to a vacation to memphis… hope you dont get shot

  27. WWWTTTFFF

    Wow, how elitist and short sighted this article is, as are most of the comments here. Everyone has the same opportunity right? Wrong. It’s so easy to make it home when you start out on third base, and black people as a group start out at the very bottom. They didn’t come from European royalty, and the IQ tests were invented by white educated white people. They came over as slaves, and were crapped on for 100’s of years, and STILL are, because they are assumed to be inferior by elitists like all of you. Yeah, I understand they act lazy and get by on the bare minimum and take advantage of welfare, disability, etc etc, but they only do that because none of them has or ever had a fair shake at making it in this country like you all did. It’s easy to lose hope when all you are taught is by other people who were crapped on for their entire lives also. I offer you this experiment: Take a white person and raise them in a poor black family, and your result? Aside from a slight “color” advantage (how they are looked at by other whites), they will end up more or less the same. Now take a black person and raise them in an upper middle class white family. I guaren-fu(kin-tee they will end up as “smart”, or “smarter” than any white person of equal socioeconomic status. It has nothing to do with DNA you elitist arrogant one percenters, and shame on you for even hinting at the possibility in your snobbish conceited way

    Signed,
    Lower-Middle Class White Guy.

    • I am not a 1 percenter, nor am an elitist. Actually, I am a socialist. And you are banned.

      • Rational

        I do think that blacks are stupid, however I don`t see why you have to ban every single person who presents an opinion that differs from yours.

        • I do not ban everyone who disagrees with me. Only those who violate the comments rules.

        • Daniel Greene

          Did you even read my post? Your post is mainly a straw man argument against claims I never made. Let me extract a quote from my previous 10/7/12 post, that if you actually read and understood, may have saved you some time from writing your post: “I believe that much of the research that has shown that blacks on average tend to demonstrate low intelligence to be credible.” So you see, I’m quite familiar with terms like ‘average’. I’m also familiar with phrases like ‘fallacious reasoning’ and ‘poor reading comprehension’. Your ‘summary’ of my argument is completely off. I was not using my own life examples to disprove the research; I used it to tell a story of how I painfully came to the realization that the research may have validity. So what really was my point in the bulk of my previous posts? My point was/is that the IQ gap between the races is not unalterable. IQ is not purely a genetic phenomenon; and culture and environment play significant roles in the formation of IQ and cultural achievement.

          Folks like yourself often point to the lack of development in Africa prior to colonization as an example of low black cognition. You cite the fact that blacks did not invent a written language, which is true. I too painfully point out to my afro-centric friends that the lingua franca of Africa, Swahili, is written with either Arabic or Alphabet characters, not African. Why? Because none exists. This may all indeed be evidence of genetically based low intelligence of the black race; however, as we know ‘development’ including language development, varied widely across the globe before European colonization, even within the same racial and ethnic groups, so we must consider other plausible factors such as geography, climate, culture, religion, etc. It wasn’t until the latter half of the 19th century that Europeans were even able to penetrate the interior of Africa. Why? Because of the continent’s climate and environment. If the continent’s inhospitable environment was the main reason why Africa was one of the last places on earth to be colonized by Europeans, it’s not unreasonable to consider how the environment and geography may have hindered black agricultural, technological and cultural development. In Africa, certain tribes insert lip plates, and/or scar their bodies. Why? In some cases it was to intentionally disfigure themselves to prevent Arab slave raiders from kidnapping them. If a certain people are constantly living under the threat of slave raiders it’s not unreasonable to consider how this would impede a group’s ability to develop.

          I cite these examples not to manufacture alibis for black underdevelopment, but it’s to point out that life is more complex than genes and IQ. Blacks who were extracted from Africa and brought to America have done and achieved more than they ever would in Africa. Today Africans and Afro-Caribbeans who migrate to the U.S. are able to do and achieve more than they ever could in their home countries. So perhaps it is plausible to consider a how a change in environment and/or culture can have an auspicious affect on black cognition and achievement. There remains much about human development and society that we still do not know. Black underachievement in America is a real problem but it’s a problem that merits more than a pat answer; however, it seems this is the only kind of answer that intellectually lazy racialists are obsessed with providing.

        • I'm a pro

          It’s because he’s stupid.

      • question

        So anyone who disagrees with your POV is banned? The development of intelligence is due to environmental factors. Schools in the inner city are all low performance schools. Continuing to the vicious cycle mediocrity; and all these facts are meaningless.

        Scientists for years have been using stereotypes and propaganda to support their theories, cause what white man would admit that a black man is in some way or form superior to them in intellect.

        There is sufficient evidence that the distortion of African history was deliberately planned and executed, and this has reaped dividends for the perpetrators. But to the African, this has led to a lack of self-confidence and a can-do-attitude; hence the restoration of African history must be a critical component of an African renaissance.

    • Steve

      “Now take a black person and raise them in an upper middle class white family. I guaren-fu(kin-tee they will end up as “smart”, or “smarter” than any white person of equal socioeconomic status”

      Its been done. Get educated.

    • zaphod

      “…and the IQ tests were invented by white educated white people…”

      How fascinating, then, that East Asians outscore white people on these white-biased tests. Put your head back in the sand, you mindless simpleton.

    • Jimmy7

      Now take a black person and raise them in an upper middle class white family. I guaren-fu(kin-tee they will end up as “smart”, or “smarter” than any white person of equal socioeconomic status. It has nothing to do with DNA you elitist arrogant one percenters, and shame on you for even hinting at the possibility in your snobbish conceited way

      Unfortunately for you, we do not have to rely on your ‘guarantees’ and gut feelings. The experiment has been done:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study

  28. gary

    100% agreement with the ancedote presented in the beginning. I offended the PC police
    oh well, its the truth

  29. Jessica

    Thank you! I work in a clinic as a Medical Assistant. I have noticed the same thing except not with colleagues, but with patients. Clearly not up to par with the intelligence level, they waste my energy because they make me mad with their stupidity. Especially the moms. the thoughts that run through my head. I wanna laugh in their face or punch it. And their kids? So ill behaved. I wanna give them a parenting award and turn around and kick the kids. For everyone offended, I don’t care, because I don’t need to know you, and I’m speaking the truth.

  30. Vive

    Sadly, too many African-Americans are indeed stupid and lacking priorities. But having grown up on the Caribbean island of Trinidad I have seen people of African descent in a totally different light. There they have always had a basic confidence, being a majority, and moreover they have the steeped British colonial tradition which emphasized intellectualism, fine manners and excellence. Moreover, Martin Luther King and Frederick Douglass were African-Americans who were intellectuals and scholars. In Douglass’ case it was all inspite of being born in slavery and forbidden to learn to read.

    Therefore I can only conclude that the stupidity of blacks today is due to a corrupted and commercialized culture that condones mediocrity and belittles ambition. It has utterly nothing to do with black genes. Indeed, it is precisely those dangerous and discredited race theories that sent six million to the gas chambers.

  31. armando

    I just googled white stupid people and not a lot came up, yet googling stupid black people revealed a garden of fodder – black people are simple and hide that simplicity behind bravado, loud music and self-declared sexuality. Compare the face of a DNA pure black person with a chimpanzee – protruding forehead, unusual jaw and flat nose – looks like a monkey. All the blacks that have gained recognition are mixed with Anglo blood and the blue black Blacks are killing and raping each other in Angola or whatever African Country they are trying to conquer – let them kill each other as it is no loss.
    What is more concerning is the Mixed Race Blacks thinking they are African Black and trying to achieve equality here in this Democracy. We are tired of your proclamation of racist entitlement and self-imposed superiority. Follow the rules like we all do –You are not entitled to anything more or less than White people. I am tired of your expectations of a higher servitude because you are Black – Stop being so self-absorbed and become an American instead of a Black American!

  32. dude

    Oh yes, they are stupid! very much indeed

  33. dude

    i forgot to mention that the stupidity for the black people are in their genes!

  34. Honest Guy

    Black “people” largely DEFINE stupidity in this society!

  35. I am a South African European, and all I can say is “Wow !”
    There is really something very wrong with the human society ! I tend to stirr the human racial issue, and to my liking, I obviously would not like to be like any other race. To me, other Races are stupid, slow and different in everything just like their color ! I dont want to mix my seed, with anyone but, my own kind.
    I regard myself above others, just as they do with me. I practice Racism just as they do !
    BUT…..We are all different, and use different methods to get to the answers. Some of us are slow while others are faster, that does not make anyhone of us bigger better or even more intellegent ! Just different.
    We need to be roud of who we are, and respect other human beings for what they are, but not look down upon them, or enstill a inferior thoughts in their minds, no matter if they are inferior.
    WE DO NOT HAVE TO MIX OR LIVE WITH THOSE WE DO NOT LIKE !
    BUT THIS TYPE OF HATE WILL CAUSE THE DESTINCTION OF MANY RACES, WHEN ANGER CAN NO LONGER BE STOPPED !
    We in South Africa are now sitting on a tinder box full of HATE !

    • EPGAH

      South Africa was violently overthrown by BLACK ANC terrorists, and you want to tell me you don’t have to mix or live with those you don’t like?

  36. Rob

    I’m an evolutionary biologist who studies ungulates, but is as interested in human ecology, and the one question few seem to ever ask is: why WOULD every race be exactly as intelligent? Different selective forces due to environment would absolutely result in different races developing differently, just as a tropical bird evolves quite differently from that same type of bird living in a temperate zone. Dark skinned people look that way because they evolved in sun-intense tropical climates, which are more stable and naturally productive habitats. This actually makes it much easier to find food and survive compared to temperate climates, and so there were not as many selective pressures to increase intelligence as there were in temperate zones. We can see the evolutionary racial differences quite clearly in physiology (variations in body fat, musculature, resistance to malaria…even the advantageous tight curls of head hair on sub-saharan Africans. There MUST be differences, and the evidence indicates “black” people are less intelligent. HOWEVER, the other concept that seems to be ignored is why this has to be such a bad thing. Intelligence is just one facet of being a human being, so we should not be defining any person’s worth purely on this single thing. I have traveled extensively in both Africa and Asia, and would opine that I find the Asian people to be “smarter” in general, yet I still much prefer spending time with black Africans. Evolutionary development of one part of humanity usually comes at the expense of another. I will leave that food for your own further thought.

    • Jimmy7

      HOWEVER, the other concept that seems to be ignored is why this has to be such a bad thing. Intelligence is just one facet of being a human being, so we should not be defining any person’s worth purely on this single thing.

      Intelligence is prioritized in a society of spaceflight, computers and antibiotics. Running speed and malarial resistance aren’t. Those blacks who live in the first world are going to be a disadvantage, and I doubt many want to return to a hunter-gatherer mode in Africa. That is why it matters.

  37. My

    I find this absolutely sickening. “Blacks are less intelligent than whites.” First of all, you dumb asses, race doesn’t even exist. It’s just made up words. As time passes, everyone will be the same color. The only reason there are variations in skin tone is because of the location our ancestors were placed relative to the fucking earth. We are all from this planet. Why do we need to divide? So you sorry excuses for humans can feel better about yourselves? Does saying you are more intelligent make you monsters feel like special snowflakes? Are you all so self-loathing that you have to put yourself higher than others in order to accept yourself?

    I find it funny how you all are generalizing all black people because of one experience you’ve had. “Oh, man, I met some stupid people working at my job and they were black, so all stupid people have to be black.” Maybe you should get out more or open your fucking eyes. I hope your ignorance dies with you and doesn’t effect others.

    • Yes Blacks on average are less intelligent than Whites at this moment in time, as measured by objective tests. It is simply a fact of life.

      PS I have met a LOT of dumb White people in my life, and I do mean a lot.

  38. daliwonga

    you’re such a bitch!That is by far the most ridiculous shit i have ever heard.I am a South AFRICAN in a good private school with a fair population of whites and asian, and to speak the truth black kids are way more intelligent than our cuasian and asian conterparts. I mean, seriously,hOw insult us like that ? you should be BURNT IN A POT OF BOILING WATER! BITCH!

    • All right look Black man, I am going to have to ban your Black ass so you can go somewhere and cool down.

      Also I seriously doubt that the Black kids in South Africa are more intelligent than the Asians or Whites there. It’s just not true.

      Good luck in the new South Africa my friend.

  39. mike

    also education does not effect iq one bit..
    even an uneduated white kentucky hillbily has same av iq as educated whites!! I”m an expert on genetic science.

    also blacks fit science of beauty, Marqudes beauty mask the worst .. mixed babies have av iq of 90 and uglier than white mom or dad everytime.

  40. mike

    I play poker as my job online and have a genius iq..
    please google my facts… and will see i’m 100% right on…

  41. toney

    I personally just want to say I agree with you but Fuck you at the same time. I’m an Africa and American myself and I do realize this by seeing it almost everyday in downtown L.A. Yesi it is very sad to look in the eyes of these older black males. It is like the don’t wake up into this reality that is really making hard for other young black males to walk in upper class sections without geting stereotype because of the lack of education they don’t grasp. I’m a well educated 25 year old young black male that was raised from a middle upper class loving family. Basically I was extremely cuffed from a different cloth than others that were brought up in inner-cities. Anyways the things that my people are always concern about is ignorance and stupidity. I believe that if you don’t stop the retarded mentality than we would never change our reality. My folks tend to always think about the financial that they don’t have. They tend to blame the “White man”. But if you only pay real close attention to the things that you do in this life that are dysfunctional and completely out of the norm, you would realize that life is not a game. There is more than hanging out on corners dealing with drugs. How about taking better responsibilities as far as employment and accepting the precious things in life that come with value. Killing one of your own and dropping out of school doesn’t prove anything but to keep these other race class folks to think that all black males are retarded. Its ridiculous that these filthy slime spics don’t wake up because this almost makes me want to cry at the end of the day when I know white folks are talking about me under their breath. So wake up black man and get your shit together because the stupid shit you do really is lowly sloppy and retarded!

    • ProudFeministGirl

      This is what i don’t understand, Black are really underperforming in many fields, however they seem to be specially gifted on Music and Dance genres, however SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES, i think ,what if the Black contributions to Dance and music are kinda exaggerated by equalists? i don’t live near Blacks here, so i don’t know how musical they are, but for example, some attribute the Tango dance to both White and Blacks from Argentina, just because some reports, but how do we know those ancient reports saying that Blacks danced the Tango first are true?. Is just an idea i have, there aren’t even more Black people left in Argentina to see some proof about it.

    • shawn

      Your English is terrible for a “well educated” person.

  42. Not entirely sure if this is true, but I think that the reason why black people get lower IQ scores is a cultural thing.

    Decades of slavery which denied many blacks education+ crappy ghetto schools + modern gang culture=blacks who don’t value education=stupid African Americans.

    It’s a nature vs. nurture thing. Same could be said of poor Hispanics or Poles. Also explains why East Asians and Jews get such high IQ scores: Both cultures value hard work and education.

    Just my two cents on this topic.

  43. question

    They will never understand

  44. The author of this blog has a bit of a problem with its genetic masters. It spends its time posting many blogs harping on about Blacks, the usual crap and so too like minded pink skin, recessive gene inferiors follow it. LOL Must suck being a miserable white DESPITE all that privilege. LOL It also looks as though Lindsay stinks and could do with a good wash. Instead of fornicating with ni**gers it may do well to “study” the differences between the aforementioned nig***ger and a BLACK person. For EXAMPLE: BLACKS would never sit and be “schooled” by a white. They have the INTELLIGENCE to know that the peasant cannot teach the enriched and ANYTHING. Although a high I-Q inbred such as Lindsay would not know this. LOL I could go on but the pink skin spastics on this page will NEVER get it. One word of advice Lindsay, if you keep taking niggah dick up your arse you’ll get AIDS and I DO hope you catch it….
    LMBAO

    • I am having a very hard time understanding why this racist nigga wrote this nonsense to me. The post is a question, Are Black People Stupid? As I recall, although that was an edgy question for a post, I did not answer that question in the affirmative in that post. Maybe I left it up in the air as an unanswered question to be pondered: “Are Black people stupid? Who knows? There is evidence both ways. I am not sure myself. What is your opinion?”

      So that was really not a racist hit piece on Blacks. Really I try hard not to write much anti-Black racism on this site. Given Black behavior, that’s not real easy, but I do make the effort, if only because I have a Black co-author on this blog who will bite me head off if I get too ugly towards her people.😉

      • Zulu Lesbian Construction Company

        It is pretty edgy as a title. Race talk always is like that. I mean I love black people and have aborigines on my desk top but I like the nappy head hoe type women and visit them often. They look after me and I look after them. We are both dark so whitey can not really say anything about that. And if Whitey does,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,see it starts getting edgy.

      • Pkr

        If you want to know, “Are Black People Stupid?” is offensive, ask these questions. Are white people racist? Are white people sub-human, this
        because the word hue is more than likely a root word of human. And
        whites lack hu(e). In the history of mankind, whites or people whom are called white, have killed, murdered, aborted, slaughtered, “genocided” more people than “blacks”, even though “blacks” have been on this earth for well over one-hundred-twenty-thousand years.

        Do we call white thieves because they have stolen from every continent save Antarctica?. The whole discussion “What race were the ancient Egyptians” is about identity theft. Which leads people to believe whites created a great civilization in ancient Egypt (Africa), Millennia prior to creating a civilization in Europe. We are to believe that philosophy was invented by the Greeks in the Fifth Century BCE even though there are things called, Sumerian Scribes, Sumerian Songs, Maxims of Ptahhotep, Laws of Hammurabi, Sin-leqe-unnini, Egyptians Poems and Instructions of Amenemope. All range from just over 3000 to about 5000 years old.

        Then there are terms like Aryan which is a term adapted by so-called Caucasians and the term Caucasian itself. The former Aryan, is a term borrowed from the ancient Egyptian city, El-Aryan which is more than 4200 years old. Caucasian itself is sort of a slight because it is a term used for a region in Russia which is believed that some who left Africa settled. Those Russians were considered the n-word(s) of Europe. I have thousands of images of the people I mentioned above, especially those of ancient Egyptians. Finally The IQ test that is used to divide is only a tool to measure intelligence.

        When first seen it may intimidate people. But, I printed a sample test off the internet and found one thing out. That is if you time a test you may not get the best results. But if one reads the questions and have them settle in, one can receive high marks. The test is a snapshot of intelligence, but quick decision aren’t a sole example of intelligence because some intelligent decisions develop over time.

    • EPGAH

      You’re right, we can’t teach you anything! That’s explicitly the problem!

  45. Regbs

    Jews in Rhode Island were major participants in the American slave trade: something Jews do their best to censor and deny. They’ll accept the historical accuracy as grudgingly as they’ll accept that other genocides occurred in history and that Jews themselves perpetrated ethnic atrocities, such as against Russian and Ukrainian Christians, Palestinians. Read: they’ll concede for a millisecond, deny they ever agreed, then deliver the anti-Semitism accusation that “wins” every argument as effectively as claiming racism. Jews are the biggest promoters of displacement and dispossession of the very White Protestants who saved Jews from Catholic Fascism. Fact: Fascism was never politically viable in any predominantly Protestant country, never garnering more than 10% of the popular vote. Irish catholic filthy bravely sat on their hands in WW2 claiming neutrality in their drunken, perpetually unindustrialized, corrupt stupor. Irish showing up to the clean prosperous WASP world after the hard work is done doesn’t glorify them. 1968’s disastrous Immigration Law allowing chain migration of non-NW European Protestants is something we have the irish communist kennedys and the jewish lobby to thank.

  46. john syldo

    It is about time we face the truth that there is difference level of intelligence in races without being called a racist. We need to wake up and resolve the problem by not engaging in playing correct politics and suppressing the scientific truth about races. We can no longer spoiled our less intelligent minority without planning a way to compete against rising power of homogenous China who composed of highly intelligent people. Our nation’s economy is being dragged down to support Black welfare and interest. Look at cities of Shanghai and Beijing, starting from scratch 20 years ago, they are now more beautiful than New York. One Chinese visitor says, we are already becoming third world nation.

    • Historia Nerd

      It’s sad but true. I remember a Korean gentleman laughed when I said I was from Greece. He remarked that it was once a great nation that fell on its knees. Likewise, our beautiful Western nations are falling to their knees because we import low IQ Blacks, Hispanics, South East Asians and Muslims. We need more White Europeans or East Asians, not the aforementioned groups. Aside from the Muslims, what have Filipinos, Vietnamese, Blacks, Hispanics, etc contribute to the growth of our history? Nothing!

      • Movenon

        Just a friendly tip- Vietnamese have basically as high an IQ as Chinese do. Richard Lynn wasn’t able to find a Vietnamese IQ score for his work, so he made the irresponsible assumption that the Vietnamese were halfway transitional between the Thais and the Chinese, and averaged out those IQ scores to get a mock Vietnamese score. And the Thai score he used was not accurate either, here’s a study that got a significantly higher score:
        http://sports.tmcnet.com//news/2011/07/08/5623876.htm
        So Thais aren’t too far behind other East Asians.
        Lynn was probably limited by sample size and such in his data.

        While I’m not Vietnamese, I do notice that Vietnamese Americans tend to have the same kind of success as the other East Asian Americans.

        • No proper Vietnamese IQ is 99.5. The Thai score is 98.5, which is interesting as SE Asian people are similar. I never thought any of these people were stupid, honestly, and I have met a lot of them.

          Neither 98.5 not 99.5 are near China’s IQ.

          And 100 is not the world average IQ.

        • Movenon

          Well it’s quite close; there is some diversity between provinces in China, and 99.5 comes close to being a low-IQ Chinese province.

          With some more Flynn effect, it’s conceivable that Vietnam can still get a couple more points. There’s also the likelihood that the ethnic Vietnamese have IQ scores a little higher than the minority ethnicities (they make up a good chunk of the population). So ethnic Vietnamese are probably a little higher than 99.5, and the minorities might be dragging down the average a bit.

          And that report found some provinces in Thailand broke past the 100 IQ mark, so that’s definitely in Chinese IQ territory, and could be roughly equivalent to a lower-performing Chinese province.

        • Indeed there was a 20 point spread between urban and rural Vietnamese – 109 IQ in the urban areas and 89 IQ in the rural areas.

        • Batterytrain

          The Vietnamese people that are here are actually Chinese people that were in Vietnam. Also High IQ is not a true estimator of true creativity or civilizational capabilities; I mean just look, did the supposed “High-IQ chinks” invent the first car or steam-powered trains despite their history of mass literacy and imperial examination and being richer then the West? No, and Asiatics don’t have the correct mindset and genetics to create that. It’s in the genes and the certain socio-cultural genes that made the West and Asiatics don’t have it hence why they didn’t make it to the moon first.

        • Movenon

          Hi Batterytrain- The vast majority of Vietnamese Americans are ethnic Kinh Vietnamese, not Chinese from Vietnam. Virtually all ethnic Chinese from Vietnam identify as Chinese American once they get to America.

          There are no studies or supporting evidence/statistics to back your claim that the high Vietnamese IQ is mostly due to them being ethnic Chinese from Vietnam rather than ethnic Vietnamese.

          Whether IQ is what’s necessary for civilization is a different topic best discussed on a different post of Robert’s where it would be more relevant. The issue at hand is whether ethnic Vietnamese have high IQ (and studies show that it is on the higher side).

        • leeminh0

          Oh look it’s Xera again at the attack against his Asian enemies, I think that argument of creativity is turning old, as time passes (1 year ago since you were banned here) I see Asians proving themselves more and more, in music too

        • leeminh0

          DON’T MOTHERFREAKING DEFY ME, I AM BRAVE AND POWERFUL, MORE THAN YOU COULD IMAGINE ,by the way, look at how talented the Korean “chinks” are at music

        • Ken

          Batterytrain:
          The last 10,000 years have mostly been dominated by Asians (Chinese) You only mention inventions of the last few centuries, you seem pretty ignorant about history

          According to projections, China will once again rise above the west, so the torch of civilization will be handed back to the Chinese, Koreans and Japanese by the end of the century.

        • Ted Neddson

          Asians did not create Game of Thrones

  47. Jason Y

    “Stupid is, as stupid does”, LOL

  48. Historia Nerd

    Sorry about that Movenon and Robert. I wasn’t aware of Vietnamese having strong IQs. Also, I’ve heard in Thailand the Chinese have bred with the locals. Would this have had an impact on IQ. Further, culturally, they are Indian. I’ve seen some syncretism of Hinduism and Buddhism. Would that affect IQ drastically as well?

  49. George Mack

    I have noticed that lots of the blacks that end up doing well for themselves are gifted. But some of their successes are the same as average- to above-average whites.

    I would love to hear replies to this. However stupid they may be.

    • Historia Nerd

      I’ve had the opportunity to meet some Blacks that were well-educated. However, they were few and far between. A close male friend of mine completed Mechanical Engineering at Penn State and worked hard to get in (not through affirmative action). He was later able to move to Sudbury, Ontario, where he secured a nice paying position. But, as mentioned before, he is one of the few exceptions. A majority of the Blacks I have met always try to make sexual advances on me, enjoy violence and try to live the thug life. There are some intelligent Black folks to be found, but the criminally inclined ones make it hard to do so. By the way, George Mack, weren’t you banned by Robert?

    • TiggertheNiggardly

      Yo mama IQ so low she thought the Underground Railroad was a subway station🙂

      But seriously, I’m black and I find IQ and psychometrics in general. As someone with an above average IQ, I believe those with high cognitive abilities (and high morals) should lead society, regardless of race, gender etc. So these studies have merit. America should not be afraid to seek out the brightest.

      • Thank you my Black friend and welcome to the site!

        • GulliverFredrich

          Hey Robert!

          I have a high IQ b/c I paid money to a psychiatrist/psychologist recently and I came in the 139+ range which would put me in the upper echelons of this bell curve. However historically academically I have performed rather mediocre to poor and have suffered from depression and anxiety issues. I also am not very good at talking in general and talking to people or tasks that involve using my hands a lot and hard logic. What would you make me of this?

          I am not African-black*

        • Hi GF I do not know what to make of your condition. I suppose I would suggest some sort of psychotherapy. A good well-trained therapist, especially a clinical psychologist, might be able to figure out what is going on. After these are folks who administer IQ tests. They are the experts on intelligence and whatnot. To me your case does not really make sense.

  50. Historia Nerd

    Ken the Iraqis (Ancient Mesopotamians) and the Iranians (Ancient Persians) and Egyptians were also years ahead of the West in terms of Mathematics, Astronomy and Medicine. However, Eurocentric education has denied any influence from the Chinese, Arabs, Indians, Amerindians and even Greeks. Some Whites don’t even consider Greeks and Italians as White!

    • Dave Mowers

      Yeah so when you look at the statues of those ancient peoples and you read their own histories and you read the histories of cultures that interacted with them and you read their own writings about who they were you find what everyone in history, who actually studies the subject matter finds, Caucasians came from southern Russia and invaded Iraq-Iran, established colonies and then Invaded India and Egypt and Europe.

      I mean, I can literally pull dozens of books of my shelf right now and start re-quoting so many times that you will just quit this nonsense but before I even go that far, which I am more than willing to do, let’s just start with names like, Pelasgian, Parthinian and Phrygian.

      “Euro-centric,” does not exist, only in your racist mind, “Europe,” is Proto-Indo-European for, “Footed-Man,” you know like the, “Flyfot,” or what Mesopotamians called, “Nomads,” who move every direction out from a center in this case the CAUCASUS.

      Hence, “Caucasian.”

      Please read the actual history of the Greek nations. It is identical to the Hebrew, Hindu, Persian, Egyptian and Celtic.

  51. Jason Y

    Are u sure the environment doesn’t play some role? For instance, the Philippines (nearby southeast Asian nation) is a neo-liberal state, while Vietnam is socialist. Wouldn’t the Filipino IQ improve, if the government took an active interest in the people?

    • I am not sure, but the Thai government made a major pitch to improve IQ by getting iodine into the diet. Lack of iodine depresses IQ by 10-15 pts. The scores went up from 90 to 99. I am starting to think that all SE Asians may have a phenotypical IQ ~99 if all of the right environmental factors are in play.

  52. Unknown

    Not all blacks are the same, just like the way all whites are not the same. You cannot base intelligence on race because we are all different, we think differently and we do things differently. Classifying intelligence by race is like saying that everyone in that race has the same education, virtues, family, etc. We need to understand that environmental factors affect things like that. You cannot say that a black child who grew up in a very horrible community and went to a horrible school is the same intelligent-wise as a black child who grew up in a wealthy family and had the best of education. Obviously these two people are different and their intelligence cannot be graded just because of one thing, race. The only way we can say maybe whites were more intelligent than blacks was if we all went to the same school and had the same education and were affected by the same environmental factors. We are all different and it is wrong that people should be compared by race. I bet it’ll be really hard for you to say a white and black person were the same, but they could be? Race has nothing to do with anything. People are taught, they are not simply born. I think adults are really ignorant actually. I’m not even 16 and this whole thing just seems wrong. I just wish, that we could live in a world where you could look at someone and not even see their skin colour, because their skin colour would just be skin. I wish that what mattered was inside. In our hearts, not on our skin. I live in Africa btw, I go to one of the best schools in my country and I don’t think you could compare me to a child on the street or a school drop out. Please be mindful, we are all different. Thank you

    • big g

      Intelligence is something that you are born with. Desicion making uses intelligence and environmentally learned behavior.

  53. harry leonard

    well see I’m netural about these situations. I have some very close black friends and I have nothing against Black people in general, but…. In education I have seen many Blacks who were just lazy, lack of intelligence, and down right untrustworthy. I remember when I was doing my Undergrad at University of Indiana, in many of my classes I had Blacks as my group members. The black group members did not want to work hard or do any of the assignments, I had to do everything for them. The thing that ticked me off the most about the black group members was that they lied to me about alot of assignments or was unaware of what was going on or what we were suppose to be doing. I remember one assignment we had to conduct 75 questions for an interview, and I forgot how many questions we had to conduct so I asked my black group members and they said we only had to do 10 questions… so I did them 10 questions only and we all got an F. I was naive… but I put my trust into them black partners and look what happened. They were unaware of what we were suppose to be doing and I was just better off working by myself. The point is… they’re just lazy, they don’t care, and they don’t want to participate or be involved. Many of them would never meet with me in the library to work on or discuss assignments. If I saw any of my black group members walking around campus, they would try to avoid me or pretend that they were talking on their cell phone so they would not have to talk to me. They would gossip about me or make jokes about me to their other black friends. It really made me angry, but my best advice is just to avoid them. They want to sit around and cry racism… if they don’t get their way, but I don’t know maybe it was just my bad experience. They’re just not trustworthy!!!

  54. euginr

    U racist son of a dumn bitch

    • All Black man, back to the hood now.

      HAND!

      • Billy Jackson

        You fucking cracker, if you hadn’t have enslaved, undereducated, overworked, and constantly have told us “you are inferior” we wouldn’t live in a ghetto, with sucky educational systems, no money, and no way of getting out of them. If things were the other way around, you’d only be more ignorant than you already are.

  55. WellThere'sAlwaysEQ

    At the fragile age of 14, I learned via a school psychologist issued IQ test that I qualified as mentally retarded (68). This information explained why I felt compelled to shove my fingers deep into my wide nasal canal while staring vacantly into the distance….

    But seriously, black, white and Asian lay people, psychologists and professors have called me smart. I tested in at 102 but I was told I’m twice exceptional (look it up) so the score isn’t accurate.

    I’m not saying IQ doesn’t matter, I’m just saying don’t oversimplify its implications…

    • Santa

      Were you joking about the 68, or have you seriously tested between 68 and 102? If so, do you have any ideas why? Were the tests quite different or something?

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  57. Billy Jackson

    Oh for fuck sake, this is a bunch of fucking bullshit! I’m a black teen from North Carolina with an IQ of 146, and am by no standards dumb, or ignorant. All I do is make straight A’s in all honors classes. Fuck all you racist bitches who think you’re “Better” than me. When you fucking die, and burn in hell for your sins we’ll see who’s better.

  58. Dave Mowers

    This evening I met three African-American fathers, one male teenager about 17 or so and one female teenager who was maybe 13-14-ish?

    Every one of them had children, some had two or more and each one was personally engaging, articulate, and the one female African-American teenage girl actually, literally, carried her younger brother up my stairs and assisted him in choosing candies, he was hesitant, AND, she was barraged by a larger group of white kids who pushed their way up the stairs, into a limited space, so that, while she could not get down by just holding her 3-4 year old brother’s hand, she then took his candy bag, lifted him up in the air holding him like a mother would and made her way down the steps past the other children WITHOUT saying a word, without complaining about being crowded onto the porch.

    One African-American father’s toddler had fallen down and hurt his leg so he went and got a baby stroller and pushed this kid, who wouldn’t walk anymore, to every home to make sure he had a great Halloween.

    “Stupid?” …or just like everyone else, trying to raise a family in the worst economic environment in U.S. history and expecting skin-color not to matter?

    The male teenager asked me twice if I was sure he could have handfuls of candy. Twice, after I told him to take it he still was self-reserved and wondering if what I was saying was some kind of sh_t-talking or set-up against him. Was I the least bit scared of these black people?

    No. I’m a crazy white person who isn’t even scared of imminent death let alone some kid who wants to have an awesome Halloween. If I remember correctly; “White People,” have killed more people than any race in history and more of our own kind that any failed African State can ever claim.

    2 Million Cimbri and Teutons.
    950,000 Carthaginians.
    100,000 Sidonians slaughtered BY Sidonians!
    God only knows what the Achaenians did.
    50 million Russians in WWII.
    Then Rome,
    500,000 Bretons.
    One million Gauls.
    450,000 Helvetti.

    Rwandans got nothing on European, “whites.

    • Muslims hold the all time genocide record. Totting up Muslim genocides through the ages gives 270 million dead. This includes the Negro dead due to slavery on the part of Muslims.

      However, to be fair they are tame by the standards set by Whites these days. They have gone so soft; a few dead people on the infidel side and they start distributing candies on the streets. Allah help these useless jihadis!

      Why are Muslims so soft these days? A question to be pondered. Even Whites who set records for fastest death by the millions just a few decades ago are really soft. What makes these record-breaking killers suddenly go soft?

      However, Blacks are the number killers of the day. Crime stats say it all. Check out crime stats for the US and the millions dead in the Congo in the never-ending slaughters that never make the news. Per capita, Blacks kill more than anyone.

      With regards to the Muslims, I actually blame the Jews. Modern warfare is tough on Muslims. They prefer old fashioned warfare. So any killing of a Jew or any infidel is praised around the world in seconds. Pathetic.

      Blacks kill around the clock, and no one even notices as it never makes the news. When was the last time film crews went to the Congo. They always prefer the luxury hotels of Gaza and Israel. When was the last time international film crews visited the violent never-ending slaughters taking place in the Black hoods in the states? The higher the Black demographic, the higher the murder rate.

      Muslims get a bad rep from the media. They are pathetic softies who make a lot of noise. The media loves noise as it is safe and off they go to get the latest nonevent on film. Meanwhile Africa and the hood keep churning out the highest stats.

    • Tulio

      You are starting to restore my faith in white people.

  59. Chryssipus

    Yep, whites were good at mass slaughter, but some Sub-Saharans were good at cannibalism. Can’t decide which is worst, mass killings, or eating your own kind. Although the Whites had to fight the some blacks, just to bring an end to such an unusual appetite.

  60. Chryssipus

    And remember, the blacks were engaging in this strange feat as recently as 19th century, some still find our closest relatives in the mammalian kingdom delicious. There could have been other instances of this bizarre behavior from other regions, but for the whites to find it objectionable in the 19th century, it strongly suggests that they couldn’t identify with it, or that they got over it long ago, which suggests they became smarter before the blacks.

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  62. Miss Nancy

    Black people aren’t stupid, just lazy! I live in Detroit and the blacks figure if the government is giving me food stamps and government housing, why work?

  63. Steel

    I’ve worked in both
    white and blue color jobs. No one can tell me Blacks are as intelligent or as diligent as Whites or any other race. As a carpenter I was unable to teach blacks how to even use a simple tape measure. In the office the only time Blacks were happy was break time, lunch time and time to go home. When we did lunch together they were always roving the streets looking for sex. It’s amazing how 2 Negroes of the opposite sex, without knowing each other could walk up to each other and start a conversation about sex. If I did that to a White woman if get my face slapped.

  64. Beav

    Isn’t the guy who wrote the ‘Douglass’ story black and doesn’t this disprove your theory as to the lack of their ability to think in an abstract manner?

    • I do not have a theory that Blacks can’t think abstractly. A lot of them can do it just fine. My coblogger here is a Black woman, and she is an excellent abstract thinker. Keep in mind that most White people have issues with abstract thinking. My father had a 129 IQ and he had problems with abstract thinking.

      But I do believe that Blacks have more issues with abstract thinking than Whites do. If you take a group of Blacks and a group of Whites, the Blacks will have more issues with abstract thinking. Sure some Blacks will do very well,

      Look on the Internet. A lot of anti-White arguments thrown out by Blacks can be easily destroyed, but the argument is a bit complex. Many Whites seem to be able to figure out the abstract argument, but so many Blacks just don’t get it. In fact, whole Black movements such as Black Nationalism and the Egypt is Black theory are based on poor abstract thinking.

      • Abstract thinking once written down becomes a map of thought.

        In this case of an black man thinking about watermelons and malt liquor, a map of mathematical thought.

        So then it enters into the physical realm in two ways once as a event in a book, secondly as thought happening in someone’s head and finally as tool one uses again and again.

        I think blacks fail to understand the fact that such thought then has utility in the physical world. In other words abstract thinking is a tool to be used.

        And of course let us not forget that a thought is a physical phenomenon in the brain. A thing. Taken in conjunction with other such things, maps which have real utility can be built.

        So the value of abstract thinking is not valued by blacks. Once a greater value is placed on his important process they can begin to engage in such thinking to a greater degree.

      • Jason Y

        Most people, of any race, can’t think abstractly, I mean, why do you think so many people do poorly in math, and hate the subject.

  65. Let us imagine a black guy who has some watermelon and malt liquor. These are not real.

    They are abstractions in his head. He, being the creator in his abstract world gives the watermelon a consciousness capable of thought. He does the same to the bottle of malt liquor.

    The water melon starts to think about malt liquor. The malt liquor starts to think about a watermelon. The product of the first abstractions has produce an abstraction. This new abstraction are endowed likewise with the power of thought and produce a further abstraction. This process is repeated fifty times.

    His big booty girlfriend comes into the room and slaps him on the head and puts down a water melon and a bottle of malt liquor.

    “Yo Sho beez lazy.” She says.

    He keeps thinking but realises he will mathematically have to retrace the multiple abstractions up to 50 times to get back into the place he was before he began his exercise.

    But we know he never did each abstraction up to fifty times as abstraction can not think and he will not do it for them. He uses a multiplication short cut. And in like manner he used the same shorthand to get back to the starting point, but obviously in reverse.

    The point is abstraction have to be internally consistent with short cuts that take you to other areas of thought.

    If he had destroyed his mental process and responded the moment he was hit the would not have been consistent to the degree required. The fact that he was careful enough to retrace his thoughts back showed he allowed for necessary internal logic to bring him back to his starting point.

    My point is most blacks would rather have a real water melon.

    Most blacks have no use for abstract water melons or bottles of liquor.

    HOWEVER, some blacks do but real water melon and malt liquor will make them feel that they are wasting their time.

    BUT a few will go all the way and realise abstract water melons and Malt liquor bottles are MORE important as they involve creating a world of thought with consistent inner logic.

    NOW that is a valuable skill.

    So our black hero was right to not stop thinking. He knew what was more valuable.

    How many blacks know this?

    • Beheading is painless

      Now comes the glitch. Let us introduce a glitch in the process.Each fifth time in the sequence there is a bit of prose created by by the water melon.

      The prose is put into the mouth of a cross eyed man. We have three orders of abstraction in this sequence. The conceptual watermelon who creates a cross eyed man who creates a piece of prose

      So here is the prose of the cross eyed man:

      Who can fathom the beauty of the negroid man’s face? Who can appreciate the subtle working of the of the slug brain? Can anything be more pleasurable than the contemplation of this? Yes, say I the cross eyed man. I am Allah’s sucker. I have sucked his dick and found it intensely pleasurable.

      Now we enter into the conceptual world of homophobia which is the subject of the next prose piece. And so on…..

      So let us PAUSE.

      Now things are complex but certainly sustainable in a human brain.

      We can increase the process of complexity until we have a conceptual world which is incapable of being contained in one brain. At this point we will have specialists who know only with one aspect of the knowledge such as homophobia.

      It is this ever increasing matrix of ideas that the idea of a conscious super mind is born and this can be contained in the concept of monotheism, and also deism etc.

      Now we see here how abstraction has produced a complex theology. This theology is the product of minds that can engage in abstract thinking to a degree of cognition that demands a superior entity to be able to process it and contain it.

      We see complex theological thinking creating such a complex conscious mind or minds within the Eurasian religious landscape.

      We see no such sophisticated native theology in Africa. We see a primitive animism.

      Hence, purely from historical reasons we can say the African is hardly a master of abstract thinking. His thinking takes him nowhere beyond the harsh confines the natural world.

      • Beheading is painless

        OK. So that is a generalisation of the complexity required. Now we can concretely why a real water melon, so to speak by way of analogy, is less valuable than an abstract water melon which is part of a complex logical and consistent conceptual world.

        This why Christianity, a complex theology dominates the thinking of two thirds of blacks in Africa. Islam’s complex theology dominates the thinking of the remaining third of the negro population.

        We get all this from an abstract water melon. As abstraction builds on abstraction we see the Super Structure grow to a MEME COMPLEX. In our analogy the meme complex becomes becomes a religion.

        At this stage no primitive animism can stand in its way. While the African is petitioning the tree spirit, the christian theologian is attempting to prove the existence of a conscious mind deity using presuppositional theology and philosophical speculation.

        There is no contest now in terms of the size and sophistication of the meme complex, AND who will dominate the thinking process. The witch doctor gives way to the theologian, AND the rest is a demographic change in the thinking affecting hundreds of millions of people.

      • Beheading is painless

        Indeed to appreciate abstraction’s value intrinsically within the context of the novelty of ideas produced and extrinsically within the context of the complex set of ideas impacting a society’s thinking via a theological understanding, is of course to engage in abstract thinking.

        The order of magnitude of abstraction is the key and we can always increase that magnitude. Let us put the above paragraph into the mouth of a microscopic clown who has entered the anus of a sleeping rhinocerous. So simply by positing this we have increased the abstraction’s magnitude in two ways by sheer weight of an additional layer of abstraction and through the positing of a novel being, a microscopic clown, in an unusual place.

  66. john clarke

    Negro have smaller brains in the prefrntal cortex which explains cognitive deficiencied. Harvards Peobody Museum has the largest preserved specimens of human brains by race. I studied under Jensen in the 1970’s. Now Chinese Genetcists have discovered the smart gene. Segregation must return .It was a wonderful safe country. The darkies were polite. Singing and dancing. Cutting the throats of Jewish shop owners. Yes a wonderful world.

    • Jason Y

      Can we segregate against white trash pill poppers? 😆 They’re making my family’s life miserable, extorting as much money as possible. Blacks? They ain’t done anything to us.

      • Sam

        “…Can we segregate against white trash pill poppers?…”

        Yes. It’s called jail. If we didn’t have so many Negros we’d have room to put them in jail.

  67. White Guy

    Blacks do not belong in EU or US alike. Whatever they choose to do in their own continent- Africa, is their problem and we should just leave them to it.

  68. Too many comments for me to read them all. So, my apologies if this question/comment has already been addressed.

    My guess is still that racial differences in mean IQ are mainly due to microevolution, i.e., to differences in allelic frequencies, in this case at multiple genetic loci and between different breeding populations. Microevolution, e.g., due to a founder or founder-like effect, can happen relatively rapidly and produce some rather big changes. The black populations of sub-Saharan Africa today are clearly not the same as the black population in the U.S., which is not the same as the Caribbean black population, which is not the same as the black population in the UK. What about gene pools? Why is the explanation which population genetics offers not the likely one? Is separation of one population geographically into distinct, separately-evolving gene pools an environmental effect?

  69. pist white

    Negroes, by & large are stupid idiots. Much dumber than their primate cousin the chimpanzee and orangutan. These animals far out perform the inferior negroe.

  70. Lucien

    The average black is way dumber than the average person of any other race. That is a scientific fact. But who needs science when all you have to do is spend some time working/living around a black population. See for yourself. Black culture is sick, hyper materialistic, violent, and retarded–heard any good hip hop lately? But what comes first, a stupid culture or stupid people? It’s a chicken and egg conundrum.
    That said, there are SOME smartish blacks, but in my experience, even the smarter ones tend to have deep mental problems and be really arrogant, bitchy, self-serving, race-card-playing backstabbing, corrupt sacks of shit to live around or work with.

  71. Jay Jay

    Hi Robert,

    My experience as a black guy from Costa Rica is similar to one of the black guys who commented above, my parents are university educated, I am a student at the moment, and I have always been one of the best students in my class, some people come to me for help because they know that I am very good at whatever I do, “others hate on me” because haw dare a black guy work hard and be successful, however, I believe that my success has to do besides hard work, with the fact that I am vey confident despite people saying the blacks are stupid, good for nothing, etc (many of the people who say that are very ugly, fat, unattractive, unsuccessful etc), I do not lose sleep over it, I keep on working towards achieving my goals.

    I am aware that one day we will all die regardless of our race, therefore, I prefer to focus not on the opinion of Whites, blacks, Asians, Mestizos but on enjoying my life and take responsibility for my actions, I definitely don´t apologize for the bad actions of other blacks.

  72. A Smart white person

    My father said If find a smart nigger you got something.

    • Beheading is painless

      Smart negroes do exist and in fact I have met one.

      Now look, this is inevitable as meeting a smart women. We know women have smaller brains and less synapses but occasionally a smart one from India comes along and does a space walk with NASA or becomes the CEO of Pepsi. People are amazed and go back to their porridge. So it does happen.

      Returning to the negro we find they are about as smart as women. They fly high and do incredible surgery brilliantly well and people are amazed and go back to their cornflakes.So again it does happen.

      The question for me is is it eaier to meet a smart woman or a smart negro. I can not say I have ever met a smart woman but I did read about the two examples above from their bio data on wikepedia, plus the CEO of yahoo, an American woman, who is going strong. So for me smart women are a thing which I read about on the net, whereas I have personally met a smart negro. So in any case that is my personal experience.

      • Jason Y

        Ben Carson is very smart, though I don’t agree with his politics. There are plenty of smart blacks, but more than likely, they are coming from clean gene pools (free of incest), as well as having some environmental advantages.

      • Alex

        Something only some poor fool dumber than a bag of rocks would say, being spoonfed it by his dad about how mean and dumb and unfair women and blacks are, darnit.

        • Beheading is painless

          You need to be more explicit;as in the uk rock is a form of candy that is purchased at fun fairs etc in Blackpool etc; the rock from Blackpool does seem to be the most famous.

          I often share my rock with female negroes. They are cetainly not mean and unfair. They often share their weaves with me as I love to cross dress. We love to share and have a good time.

          People and races and the two genders and sexual orientations are not the same but we can socially engineer situations which allow us to respect each other and get along.

          This is why PC language is important, but I am the one guilty of not using PC language in my initial post. We all need to learn to use it. Sorry about using triggering language, Alex. Let this be a lesson to me.

  73. Jason Y

    Again something not brought up is incest. Somebody on this forum mentioned one African tribe didn’t practice incest and thier IQ is quite normal or high. First cousin marriage etc.., maybe even 2nd or third cousin marriage seems to cause a terribly negative effect.

    • Well, I’m not sure about IQ, but their precolonial and Post colonial lifestyle is indeed relatively high to other SS African groups.

      However that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s incest that keeps it down. Black Americans don’t do it and they’re IQ’s are still lower (but not bad on it’s own) to other groups.

      Incest to stop is one thing, but to select for Higher IQ’s it what causes it to make a change over time.

      In Bamileke culture in favors predisposition and wealth, so therefore the men who would be sought after would have such qualities.

      I’m not sure if it was either genes or foriegn influence that caused this culture, however the point is that they developed a eugenic “engine” to be more successful.

      In other words, stopping Incest alone won’t change the mean UNLESS successful traits for a “capitalist” world are selected for.

  74. nickyhansard

    Genetics and cultural conditioning.

    Just like African Americans tend to be more muscular, people of Caucasian descent tend to be smarter. From an evolutionary point of view that’s perfectly understandable.

    Certain caucasian societies have had many generations of people born into socities that highly prize intelligence – survival doesn’t matter on how strong you are when people are using arrows/armour/horses and eventually gunpowder. It’s only natural that the more intelligent people survived and flourished. Whereas African civilisation has never really had such a high evolutionary preference for intelligence but they had greater evolutionary pressures on strength and speed (greatly enhanced by selective breeding when they were stolen and put to work as slaves).

    You also have to consider cultural/environmental differences. The very idea that African Americans aren’t smart probably has a large influence on their schooling and mental development. If you knew people assumed you were lazy/stupid – and you partially believe it – would you still honestly work as hard as you do?

    BUT there are exceptions. I’m sure there are many African Americans smarter than myself – I’m a white guy that went to a good school and was taught that education and learning are very important.

    I think first and foremost that is almost entirely a cultural/environmental issue.

  75. Niggerhatingme

    Niggers are black. Niggers aren’t human.

  76. Georg Holger Bård Mahesha Hummel

    Blacks seem to have a double problem that has more to do with the tails of the bell curve than its center – there are a disproportionate number of absolute idiots and a very small number of exceptionally clever people. ~80-95 as an average can produce social defects, but this is basically a functional IQ – which is why blacks in well-managed societies tend to be able to get jobs, etc. However, having a large population of incredibly stupid people who are basically apes with human relatives is why all-black nations tend to dissolve into tribal barbarism. There are just too many idiots who ‘can’t get’ civilization, self-control and all those other mysterious traits of the civilized races.

    • Yes, blacks are complete tribalistic idiots, they almost exterminated jews, oh thats right that wasn’t us, it was you guys, how many times did the english, irish and Welsh fight through out history?, oh yeah its not tribalism because they are white. Funny how racists cite IQ stats about blacks and completely ignore IQ stats that show racist have low IQ

      • Nope wrong again, first of all africans do not live in ‘perpetual savagery’, i know this for a fact because im an african born and bred in africa and currently live in a western country,
        Before the coming of , first the Vikings then romans later on, the celts and saxon didn’t even have a written language, thats not because they were stupid, they were just not exposed to the world
        Thats why africa is underdeveloped, same as America before Columbus, and south east asia, those places were just remote, they didn’t exists on Alexandra’s world map for example

        • Georg Holger Bård Mahesha Hummel

          I didn’t say whites didn’t have barbarians, in fact they’re some of our strongest elements. The problem with blacks is they can’t live in civilization unless they’re managed and socially pressured to conform to a non-black behavioural model.
          Eritria and Ethiopia I’ll grant seem occasionally civilized, which is probably because they’re partly Semitic and also so close to Egypt.
          And North Africans have nothing to do with African blacks. Berbers are obviously not the same as Zimbabwean hunters.

        • Im Zimbabwean myself and i can assure you that the only hunters we have are overpaid american dentists and yes my ancestors were premitive hunters who never invented anything, but to be honest neither did you

  77. Wow that’s incredible, there’s a word regularly used and can be found in every english dictionary but still doesn’t have a meaning! Wow!
    But, let’s solve the problem let’s give it a meaning
    Racist: a person who believe that a) there are races
    b) one race/races is/are superior than others
    c) believe in ‘liberal conspiracies’
    and obviously should be
    d) stupid inorder to to be able to ignore facts

    • Georg Holger Bård Mahesha Hummel

      I’m done arguing with stupid niggers who make terrible arguments.
      A dictionary is not a valid source for a philosophical argument, you stupid cunt. Bye.

  78. Bronze

    Lol. I didn’t have to read all the comments to know whats up. Yes and yes. Blacks PRETEND to be stupid. Its highly fround uppon to be smart in certain areas. I PRETENDED. And I did in the military. I even knew other blacks I quarreled with trying to be as stupid as possible. In there mind women love them and they get paid. One idiot told me “besides bitches and food what is there”. I hated him for saying something so dumb. But he isn’t dumb just trained to be stupid. I pretend to be stupid so I dont get vocal sometimes. Yawn, my book case is full of books in other languages and math, I rest assure you , the people calling me dumb are extremely dumb becasue they can’t see subtle hints. To be honest, who cares? Are not women smarter yet they dont get far without men. How many of you seen brainiachs fail messerably in life due to unwillingness to work. I don’t need black men that are smart as my brother in arms but black men who are enduring and polite. Yeah Robert is right, lazy and rude. I hate it. However blacks are trained by there parents to do so. I witnessed this so much, and they hate me as much as disgusting white people who assume too much. Yeah the whole DNA thing is dead. Because they were saying whites were supperior due to Neanderthal blood. They were inferior to humans due to dying out, why would that make whites superior? THats admiting 100 percent sub saharan that had no contact with the outside would should be obnipotent because he is full fledged modern man……the fight goes on.

  79. So i googled about africans in the US according to official stats 48.9% of african born immigrants (who are mostly sub saharan nigga savages <90%) have college degrees which is double than White Americans and four times that of Afican American, check it for yourself,
    Do you know that Greeks are said to have iQ less than African-Americans?, yes Greeks, the people who practically started democracy, the champions of classical science and modern day art and architecture are actually dimwitts according to your iQ scores
    According to Mensa their average member has an odd job, because high iQ doesnt mean anything, what has Mensa acheived as a society? Nothing
    What has the average white man achieve throughout history? Nothing

    • EPGAH

      What have whole COUNTRIES of Blacks achieved throughout history?
      When Blacks overthrow a country, from Haiti to South Africa, why do thriving countries suddenly turn to violent shitholes?
      South Africa BEFORE takeover: First successful human-human heart transplant.
      South Africa AFTER takeover: Rape Capital of the WORLD!

      Or did you read about how Blacks behaved in New Orleans? National Guardsmen returning from there claimed it was “Worse Than Somalia”!
      Somalia before takeover: Peaceful…Not much else.
      Somalia AFTER takeover: Piracy.

      The low IQ kinda gives Blacks an excuse…but why the long struggle to demand being treated as equals if you CBA ACTING like equals?

      • That black people and black countries are struggling is no secret, however its the reason for struggle thats up for debate, and its not stupidity. The reason apartheid South Africa succeeded is the same reason the West struggle to compete with China, cheap labour, in SA only whites were human and blacks were just paid slaves, Zambia currently has a white president, did he make them better? No they are still a shithole

        • EPGAH

          If Apartheid South Africa WORKED, why not go back to what WORKED?

          Blacks WERE paid “slaves”, but you can’t exploit the willing, they came in en-masse, for what? To be slaves? Or maybe…just MAYBE…being “slaves” of the Civilized World was better off than Kings or Queens in their own imaginary countries!

          Then THAT wasn’t good enough and they decided to takeover!
          They didn’t just want to steal a Better Life anymore, they wanted to OWN the place.
          Look what that did! Cute! They broke it!
          Oh, and raping and murdering the people who made it successful, should be considered “national sabotage”, don’t you think?

          Having a white figurehead doesn’t mean shit. They’re still run by the savages, unless “President” is euphemism for “Dictator” in your world?
          They’ll have to actually go back to the system that worked. If they’re not willing to do that, they can’t complain that the country stays shit.

          Another factor you don’t want to consider is that they breed EXPONENTIALLY because of Civilized World food, money, and meds. ANY economic gains they make will be literally eaten up by those excess broodlings. Either they need to cut back on the breeding, or let the excesses die and get back to a manageable number. Whites can’t afford to support them forever, especially as that number keeps growing, and our Government invite in our OWN rapacious, murderous parasites!

          http://tpr.org/post/unicef-report-africas-population-could-hit-4-billion-2100
          If you don’t believe me, maybe you’ll believe UNICEF?
          Just for reference, 4 BILLION was the WHOLE WORLD’S population–in 1990!

        • Apartheid worked only for white people so it is un workable, contries like Zambia, Zimbabwe and Malawi actually have crimerates comparable to first world countries,
          Its just countries that had bad systems like apartheid and jim crow that have victimised societies turning violent, just like serial killers come from brocken homes

        • Even if black were to become 4bn they would still be a minority because asian are the ones whose population is exploding

        • Jason Y

          Yes, and the whites taking thier diamond and gold wealth.

        • EPGAH

          We didn’t take THEIR diamond and gold wealth, we mined our own.

          Maybe you play too much MineCraft, but mining is dirty, noisy, and dangerous — and that’s with modern tech! We can’t “ninja mine”. We mined the land when it was our country. Then the savages overthrew our country…Now they mine and SELL it to us!

          Are you trying to say the savages were too SMART to mine, waited for us to build working mines, then took it over by force and forced their fellow savages to dig?

          And how are we stealing the gold and diamonds? You realize we are BUYING them, right? Even Blood Diamonds, we’re paying SOMEONE!
          That SOMEONE might enslave its fellow savages but whites always work for what we get or pay for it somehow. Only savages try to take for free.

          Has Haiti paid the French back for their lost infrastructure yet?
          Have the savages of South Africa or Rhodesia EVER OFFERED TO PAY for what they stole?

        • So can i come to the us and just start mining?, id be arrested because all natural resources in the states belong to the american people aka US government, so u didn’t own shit in africa because you basically stole it because you had guns,

        • EPGAH

          Sure you could, if you FOUNDED the country!
          We didn’t STEAL a damn thing. Rhodesia used to be part of South Africa, and South Africa had MAYBE 100 Hottentots in it, who quickly and eagerly assimilated. The Bantu invasion came later. Some came to steal a better life, others came because they were fleeing Shaka Zulu’s genocide. It called it “Knocking”. What a weird euphemism, huh?

          As to whining about guns, what DID the savages use to conquer our countries?
          1.) Pretty Flowers?
          2.) Guns&Bombs given to them by Mother Russia?

          Either way, you can’t talk about us “stealing” anything. WE BUILT THE DAMN PLACE!

        • Rhodesia has never been part of South Africa ever,
          Shaka was born and died in kwazulu-natal so who ever was fleeing from shaka was fleeing from south africa not into south africa
          If there were 100 hottentots then how come coloureds make 1/3 of the population?

        • EPGAH

          We owned shit in Africa as you put it, because we discovered BLANK LAND in Africa, too inhospitable even for the savages’ low bars.
          We worked hard and turned that desert into thriving farms, a COUNTRY worth looting. The savages took over and murdered farmers, then found it was not as easy as we made it look.

          What is your bar for ownership? Whoever builds something up, or whoever takes it by force?

        • No outside of north africa, africa is one of the most hospitable places on earth, read reports of the first Europeans to get they, they described it as virgin, or paradise and words like that, and no you didn’t own it, just as i cant come to your house and take a piece of your yard because you are not utilizing it

        • Bar for ownership?, who ever bought it from a previous owner, or received it as a gift from an owner, or whoever has the earliest verifiable claim of ownership, and since you guys say stuff like ‘go back to africa’ there is no doubt that africa is african owned therefore Europeans cannot claim to own any piece of africa unless they bought it or were given it by a legitimate owner of that piece of land
          That you developed it does not make you owners in the sense that if i steal your car and upgraded it, does not make me the legitimate owner

        • EPGAH

          Hey, here’s an idea: Come to the unoccupied desert area of America called Arizona. It’s SO desolate, even the savages from Mexico that invade to steal a Better Life…CAN’T BE BOTHERED STAYING THERE!

          Why don’t you see how hard it is to irrigate, set up any kind of farming, any kind of civilization?
          Then we’ll see how you like it when armed strangers muscle in and decide to take what you built up. Could be Americans, who have a legit claim on it.

          Could be Mexicans, who not so much can’t get over the fact they lost their last TWO wars with us, they just kind of undid those events in their minds. As far as their fantasy world goes, they never lost, we just built up the southwest part of our country for them.
          As such, they tend to try to steal and destroy any signs of civilization they see in what they still think is “their” land. See how you like everything you worked so hard to build getting wrecked.

          Then tell me about the difference between building and stealing!

        • So you mean i can just go to Arizona and just cut myself a piece of uninhabited desert and call it Niggaland?, do you think the US government will just redraw the map of America just to exclude ‘my country’?

        • Hey Musawasha, glad you came to the site. I enjoy having Blacks on my site.

        • EPGAH

          Apartheid worked for EVERYONE, stupid! Whites made a good country, good enough for savages to WANT to pour in. Savages already acted savage. It wasn’t because of your “broken home” excuse, savages were the ones that BROKE the home!

          Remember, Robert already wrote a long list of how the explorers said the savages acted? https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/07/30/the-breathtaking-effects-of-culture-should-not-be-underestimated/
          Apparently, as savage as they are now, they acted worse then.
          As to how whites became the minority in our own country? IMMIGRATION OF NONWHITES! Whites are charitable to the point of gullible.

          This is a map of Shaka Zulu’s Knocking PUSHING SAVAGES INTO SOUTH AFRICA! People from India also came because South Africa is clean and India is full of shit!

          Remember, savages change attitude as their percentage of the population increases. Note the shift of illegals’ attitude in America from “Only Here To Work” in 1986 to “We Will Not Comply” in 2006.
          The savages of South Africa went from “Save us from Shaka’s Knocking!” to “We’re Killing YOU And Stealing Your Country”! I can only imagine the savages banging on the whites’ gate, “Help! We’re getting slaughtered out here!” and why whites would say anything other than “Sucks to be you, not my problem!” rather than “Oh, come on in!”

          As to your thing about guns and violence? What do you think Mandela and the ANC did to overthrow South Africa? It WASN’T pretty flowers. Once they outnumbered the whites in our own country, Russian Agent Provocateurs whispered into their ears “Wouldn’t you like to takeover the place? Then giving them guns&bombs. Mandela was caught with 27 TONS of Black Powder and various other explosives. That’s more than the damn Unabomber!
          Don’t forget necklacing, burning their betters alive…and any Blacks that weren’t extreme enough for them…and women who refused to let Mandela’s thugs rape them.
          The “Truth and Reconciliation Committee” that savages established to forgive themselves and justify their conquest “forgave” the ANC for over 600 terrorist acts!

          As to your bar on ownership, it was unoccupied except those 100 Hottentots. There was nobody to take it from, there was nobody to give it to us. The whites didn’t “steal your car and upgrade it”, we BUILT a house and car, you begged to be let in so you wouldn’t be killed, then you killed the Men, raped the women, children, and livestock, stole the car and wrapped it around the nearest utility pole…THEN blame the whites for not repairing everything you’d stolen and broken!

          How did you get your later posts to be above my earlier ones?

        • Mandela did not overthrow South Africa, De klerk handed it to him after sustained international pressure
          SA was inhabited and you people stole it through rape and murder

        • EPGAH

          If Blacks are going to be violent savages, why shouldn’t whites take steps to protect ourselves from the savages, and even protect the savages from each other?
          And if savages don’t like the whites’ countries, why do they keep pouring IN, not OUT? Or is the idea to outnumber the whites, takeover the country and wreck it, then move onto the next and “process” it similarly?

        • Jason Y

          Yes as I suspected, South Africa’s crime is due to the fact two-thirds of black children are raised in fatherless homes, much the same as in the USA.

          What does this have to do genetics? Maybe it has something to do with it, but genetics is very much exxagerated by white nationalists on the matter.

        • Its because of sustained racial system

        • I think you are just removed from reality

        • EPGAH

          “Sustained international pressure”? Then what were the 600 terrorist attacks about?
          South Africa was NOT INHABITED UNTIL WE BUILT IT INTO A COUNTRY WORTH STEALING!

          And as to international pressure, remember the bombs and guns were provided by RUSSIA. Noone provided anything for the whites to defend themselves and keep their country.

        • Nope South Africa was full of savages, that it was uninhabited was a story cooked by the boers when they were running away from the British, who by then had decreed that African should remain autonomous after the successful campaign by Wilberforce to end colonialism ans slavery in all british controlled territory, and the boeres came with the laughable (to sane people atleast) that the area was uninhabited because everyone had runaway or had been killed by Shaka

        • EPGAH

          You savages killed our people to steal our country. And savages STILL chop up farmers even to this day! Would it be OK with you if we took it back the same way? And kept killing savages even though we’d already won?
          (The last part is teasing, whites always stop when the savages quit fighting!)

        • If by ‘ you savages ‘ you mean Zimbabweans
          1. Zimbabwe is not and has never been your country
          2. Stealing something can make you have something, but does not give you ownership
          3. The total number of white famers murdered in Zimbabwe since independence (1980) is 11, thats less than 40% the number of white people killed by right wing idiots in the US this year alone

        • EPGAH

          It’s called RHODESIA, stupid.

          1.) It was built by the Brits, it belongs to them. That’s why it’s called RHODESia, instead of Savagestan or whatever.
          2.) Yes, just stealing whites’ country DOES mean you have it, but does not make it yours.
          3.) There were a lower number of whites to START WITH in Rhodesia, so murdering a lower number isn’t truly an achievement. Are you going to brag that savages killed fewer whites in Haiti next?
          And actually, no, all the mass shooters in America have been Left-Wingers, some even Democrat. I’ll repost the list if you really want.

        • Are you in a time capsule?

        • EPGAH

          No, are you? The savages currently occupying it call it Zimbabwe, trying to connect it to the greatness of the RUINS that are there. Noone builds RUINS, so whoever was there before either died off or took a 400+ year “vacation”. But that still doesn’t entitle savages to claim “It USED to be mine, so it’s mine again!”

          When I was 6, a group of friends and I played in a dirt lot. We built NOTHING in the dirt lot, we didn’t INVENT anything there, didn’t even bring any tech from home! Then some guys with rippling muscle and colossal power (We thought they were pro wrestlers) lifted us out and built something in the dirt lot: An air-conditioned store!
          It was air-conditioned, making it a FAR superior hangout to the dirt lot. The owner let us play there, but he made very clear WE didn’t own the place.

          That’s what savages need to learn: You can hang out, it’s cleaner and better, but not YOURS!

      • Jason Y

        What have whole COUNTRIES of Blacks achieved throughout history?
        When Blacks overthrow a country, from Haiti to South Africa, why do thriving countries suddenly turn to violent shitholes?
        South Africa BEFORE takeover: First successful human-human heart transplant.
        South Africa AFTER takeover: Rape Capital of the WORLD!

        Or did you read about how Blacks behaved in New Orleans? National Guardsmen returning from there claimed it was “Worse Than Somalia”!
        Somalia before takeover: Peaceful…Not much else.
        Somalia AFTER takeover: Piracy.

        The low IQ kinda gives Blacks an excuse…but why the long struggle to demand being treated as equals if you CBA ACTING like equals?

        ALERT:

        Major missing information deception going on. Ep-gah is not mentioning that most of the people came from fatherless homes. Instead he’s focusing on negative hateful words like savage or low IQ. It’s pure white nationalist propoganda.

        • EPGAH

          I don’t care WHY they don’t behave, it just means those who CAN behave, need to keep those who CAN’T under control!

        • EPGAH

          So instead of stupid and violent, they’re just SPOILED and violent? How does that make it better?
          Does this offer any insight into how to control them?

          How can they be spoiled and yet “oppressed” by “sustained racial system” at the same time?
          And what racism do nonwhites suffer anymore?

          Jim Crow is long dead. Blacks are no longer forced to the back of the bus and denied tables at restaurants or rooms in hotels. I don’t see many white people using the n-word around blacks (except for drunk celebs and characters in Tarantino movies). So what is being used as the metric for racism?

          Is it “I applied for a job and didn’t get it” or “The interest rate on my car loan seems high” or “people on the street don’t make eye contact with me?” What are the acts of discrimination that make 88% of blacks feel discriminated against?

          Given today’s political currency of victimhood and the enforcement of thoughtcrime that is political correctness, how much of this discrimination, wasn’t actually discrimination, but a generation of black people taught to feel offended at every sideways glance and awkward pause in a conversation?

          You hear about job fairs where 5,000 people apply for 20 open position. If 13% of the population is black, than statistically 650 applicants should have been black. If they company hires 2 black people (13% of 20 is 2.6 – and you can’t have 0.6 of a person) do the remaining 648 rejected black people get to claim discrimination? Would they say they were discriminated against if asked about it for this poll?

          There in lies the rub. How do you separate the actual discrimination of from perception of discrimination when no actual discrimination may have happened?

        • When a person suffers intense trauma they become psychologically affected usually taking years to recover, but when an entire society is affected, it takes entire generations to recover

    • Jason Y

      With so many white people working at fast food, waiter, dishwashing, call center, or store clerk job, then where is the chance to show off the supposed “superior white IQ”. What use is the IQ anyway when most people are only using 2 percent of thier brain. Of course, that always isn’t bad. If it makes you a lot of money, then who cares?🙄

      • EPGAH

        I guess the “superior white IQ” in THAT case is just that we’re not robbing and murdering each other.
        And no matter what percent of our brain you think we’re using, from 2% to 10%, we’re all using the same percent, right? So the thing that matters is processor power of the brain.

        The remaining 90-98% has been theorized to be anything from autonomous to the seat of our soul, to that we evolved out of using it, to locked by aliens.

        If it keeps us peaceful and alive rather than killing each other, isn’t that superior? Even tweaked-out Appalachian Hyuk-Hyuk-villes have a lower murder rate than white cities overrun by Blacks. How do you explain that?
        If it’s not IQ then what keeps whites peaceful? This should be entertaining!

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          If it keeps us peaceful and alive rather than killing each other, isn’t that superior? Even tweaked-out Appalachian Hyuk-Hyuk-villes have a lower murder rate than white cities overrun by Blacks. How do you explain that?
          If it’s not IQ then what keeps whites peaceful? This should be entertaining!

          The blacks are hooked on dope. Something they chose to take, it wasn’t something that was genetically influenced. The blacks choose out of a free will to be bad.

          Of course, it could get the same way with whites. Tons of pill and meth-heads are making the lives of many children miserable. These children grow up in parentless homes and have the same angry attitude as many parentless blacks.

          Growing up with no respect for law and order, listening to rap, playing violent video games or ones that glorify crime (say Grand Theft Auto), the white kids become the same as the black ones.

          If genetics is such a powerful influence than why do wiggers exist? I mean real wiggers, not ones on movies and songs which make fun of them.

        • Jason Y

          Definitely the hip-hop way of life is a choice, and something many blacks, whites, latinos, and Asians have chosen. Anyone who chooses that way, regardless of his natural IQ, is going to have a higher probability of being violent, a robber, a drug user, etc..

        • Jason Y

          Children have to be taught to have “Andy Griffith / Mayberry” values. They don’t naturally obtain them. No matter what the race, or IQ, if you want peaceful nice people, then you have to raise them the right way. Due to parentless homes in many communities (regardless of race), kids grow up the wrong way and become evil.

        • Jason Y

          Oh again, as I mentioned above, two-thirds of black South African children and who knows what percentage of American black children are raised in fatherless homes. In Appalachia, either two parent homes exist, or the culture has some “conservative feature” which makes up for it.

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          If it keeps us peaceful and alive rather than killing each other, isn’t that superior? Even tweaked-out Appalachian Hyuk-Hyuk-villes have a lower murder rate than white cities overrun by Blacks. How do you explain that?

          But it isn’t the IQ making people bad, it’s the upbringing. I mean I know tons of people with a low IQ who aren’t violent, like “Forrest Gump” or your typical Downs Syndrome person, or even just some low IQ bozo who might do general labor (moving stuff, mowing lawns, odd jobs).

        • EPGAH

          1.) You’re really blaming videogames? I expected a more original excuse!
          2.) I just said that tweaked out meth-heads are NOT looting and burning the city. NOT is the operative word there!

          They have the same shit Blacks do, but they don’t make their shit other peoples’ problems.
          Take a look at Google Earth or ATLAS or whoever you like for satellite imaging. The Appalachians are peaceful. If they were as bad as the Blacks, they should be an angry reddish-orange, like lava in some videogame, as angry drug-thugs take their shit out on innocent storekeepers. Especially when they’re strung out on meth, right?

          As to that thing about low IQ not necessarily being violent, that might be the first sensible thing you’ve said in weeks. So then what is it that makes whites internalize our problems and nonwhites inflict them on others?

      • EPGAH

        You know, the savages’ constant NEED to be near us is an admission of our superiority. From Mexicans to Blacks to Moslem Terrorists, all hate us so dearly…yet all three can’t WAIT to invade our countries, rather than invade each others’ countries! That would seem to be some kind of emotional masochism, UNTIL you remember their claim that they come to steal a Better Life.

        If they invaded each others’ countries, they’d just be trading disease, right? Sometimes literally, given the AIDS rates of Africa and the Moslem Cult, and the Chagas and Chikungya disease from Mexico?

        So only WHITES make countries good enough that a Better Life is available to be stolen? Get out a thesaurus, whack yourself over the head a few times with it, then look up “Better”. One of the synonyms will be “Superior”. By stealing a Better Life from US, they’re admitting we’re superior, although they would deny it on a stack of Qurans.

        And what happens when there’s too many of their own kind infesting a given area whites originally built? It turns to shit and they complain or flee.
        Even Saudis are complaining that Beverly Hills is not “secure” anymore, because…wait for it… There’s too many Saudis!
        The irony is richer than all of them put together.

        We have Mexicans complaining that they’re not magically better off in America, that the crime is too high in the areas they infest.
        And we have Blacks complaining about their own kinds’ crime and violence, but when we send in the cops to try to STOP it, they bitch LOUDER about that! So we go on the Path Of Least Bitching, and try to MINIMIZE the damage they do to less infested areas.

        Now try to find whites doing ANYTHING like that to nonwhite countries?
        The closest you’ll find is terrorist countries, where we shoot the bad ones (As if there were good and bad terrorists) to punish them for some transgression or other.

        If the savages really ARE our equals, why don’t they stop bitching about how WE treat THEM in OUR country, and actually declare war on us, make it THEIR country officially?
        Maybe because a lot of them would die from the surprise of whites fighting back?
        To spare them embarrassment, the official record would be edited to say they died from “Gunshot Trauma” or some bullshit like that.

        • Jason Y

          I would never say savage. It’s more like a spoiled child who never had a father, who know is an adult.

        • If only you hadn’t invaded the whole world we wouldn’t be here, you’d be civilised in europe, we’d be savages in Africa, every one would be happy, but no you had to invade the whole world, destroy entire communities, push entire species into extinction, build nuclear bombs, create CFC, manufacture napalm, grow anthrax, deny climate change, put animals into captivity

          You are not just evil to minorities, you are evil to everything that has ever existed

        • EPGAH

          We didn’t INVADE the world, we CIVILIZED it!
          After being slaves of savages for 700 years, we decided the only way to not BE slaves was to ENSLAVE savages. Then we ENDED slavery, and when we let our foot off the savages’ neck, they decided to try to put their foot back on OUR necks! From takeovers of lesser countries to riots in America, to the Moslem Terrorists re-emerging as a threat.
          Go ahead and deny one of those!

          As to destroying communities, and pushing species into extinction, so did the savages.
          What are you bringing up CFC for? That’s such a 90s thing!
          As to Anthrax, so did the Moslem terrorists, remember?

          As to “Climate Change”, you idiots can’t even decide which direction it’s changing.

          More importantly, it’s actually beneficial!
          http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=23746
          Now THAT is information you’re intentionally omitting!

        • What does ‘civilise’ mean?
          Jim crow, slavery, lynching, raping, burning people alive, calling humans apes, doing monkey chants?

        • EPGAH

          If you hate our civilization and tech so much, please stop using it.
          Deed your house, car, computer, and anything else from the Civilized World to someone who appreciates it!
          I hope you don’t get sick, you might have to use our medical systems!
          I hope you grow your own food too, you might have to eat ours!

          BTW, any Civilized World tech that savages use, STILL CREATES POLLUTION! If you truly believe in Global Warming or Climate Change or whatever you call it, STOP USING OUR TECH! Or lower your population, so less pollution is created. Also remember the battery farming we have to use to FEED your excess population, creates MORE pollution!

        • Sorry but you cant own technology
          If technology could be owned, you’d be able to put a patent for it e.g you can have a patent for a specific design of a phone, but you cant have a phone patent

        • EPGAH

          Wow, so because of a legal technicality, you don’t believe it’s white tech?
          Where do you think the electricity you’re using comes from?
          Who do you think invented the computer, the Internet, so you can bitch at us about how “horrible” our civilization is. If you don’t like us, stop using the products we invented to make US more comfortable.
          Live as Savage As You Wanna Be, just be ready to give up the conveniences and luxuries of civilization.
          As to lynching, raping, burning people alive, that’s how the savages acted in South Africa. Did you look up “Necklacing”?
          (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2f45lMIOhY)

          Jim Crow and similar laws were to keep us safe from these savages by physical separation.
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/why-race-is-important/
          Read up on why race is important, and why one group is pathogenic at a rate many times that of whites…If you were white, what would YOU do to protect yourself and what you built from savages like that?

        • Well in that case then white people are retarded because there’s a good 2%of them who are
          And no, thats not a technicality, its reality you cant own technology because it involves entire nations and generations e.g. a car is made up of thousands ideas developed over thousands of years starting from the savege who discovered fire to the savage first learned to count, if the person who discovered fire, patented it and stopped everyone else from using it, there would be no combustion engine, and the person who first learned to count patented counting, nobody would be able to do anything

        • EPGAH

          Yes, 2% of whites ARE retarded, and we treat those ones accordingly. THE BULK of Blacks act violent and/or retarded, but ALL Blacks want to not only be treated as if they were equal of whites, but avoid punishment that whites would incur if they did the same thing.

          I had you pegged for a Black Invention Myths believer…But be honest, your “Inventions Belong To All” nobility is only because you want savages to overthrow white civilization WITHOUT having to give up the benefits white civilization brought, right? You want OUR cake and eat it too, as it were?

        • No i dont want to take ‘your inventions’ im just stating the fact that you cant patent them because every invention owes much to many people
          My point about the 2%,
          Yes most inventions were invented by people who were/are white but most white people have/will never invent anything
          2% of white people are retarded but white people do not call themselves retarded yet inventers make less than 0.1% of white people were/are inventors and white people call themselves inventors

  80. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    Another factor you don’t want to consider is that they breed EXPONENTIALLY because of Civilized World food, money, and meds. ANY economic gains they make will be literally eaten up by those excess broodlings. Either they need to cut back on the breeding, or let the excesses die and get back to a manageable number. Whites can’t afford to support them forever, especially as that number keeps growing, and our Government invite in our OWN rapacious, murderous parasites!

    http://tpr.org/post/unicef-report-africas-population-could-hit-4-billion-2100
    If you don’t believe me, maybe you’ll believe UNICEF?
    Just for reference, 4 BILLION was the WHOLE WORLD’S population–in 1990!

    What is the civilized world supposed to do? Not help them? 🙄 Also, the comment about them being savages is a massive generalization.

    I guess in a situation like this, the best thing to do is start colonizing other planets. Guess will call it “Afro Planet”😆

    • EPGAH

      Yes, we should stop feeding and medicating the savages that kill us, overthrown our countries, then try to invade the countries they haven’t overthrown yet, presumably to repeat the process.
      No other organism feeds its predators! Some even evolve to poison their predators or otherwise inconvenience/kill them. Why should we do differently?

      As to calling them savages being a “massive generalization”, maybe, but over 90% of it isn’t. They might wear civilized clothes, but if they still act the same way, isn’t that just “Lipstick on a Pig” to steal a Liberal expression? Haven’t the last two weeks in America provided enough examples? The ones in South Africa act WORSE! Why do you think it’s the Rape Capital of the WORLD? Why do you think their officials stopped reporting stats to the UN?

      As to colonizing another planet, great…But how will you get the savages to leave Earth? Remember, when we offered free land, livestock and tools to leave America and create their own country, only 8,000-13,000 Blacks took us up on the deal. And that was over a CENTURY! Cruise ships take more than that on ONE TRIP — PLUS PASSENGERS!

      The rest stayed behind so they could demand freebies, loot&burn our cities and herass Trump.

      Of course, if whites go first, make a thriving civilization just BEGGING to be looted, no force known to science will be able to STOP them from going there, right?

      • Jason Y

        If blacks are as bad as you say, then they will eventually kill themselves off, or at least vastly reduce thier own numbers, even with the benefits of civilization (western medication, food etc..)

        Anyhow, don’t you think imperalism plays a role in the hell hole of Africa. How come these far right wingers ignore that aspect of the problem?

        • EPGAH

          Civilized World food and medicine prevent Lord Darwin from pruning the excess. As to imperialism, how would they GET food and medicine without Imperialism? Stopping Lord Darwin is a BIG influence.

          But the other thing is, whites always set aside “Reservations” for savages. Why do they keep trying to get into OUR areas? They can be as nasty as they want in THEIR areas with ZERO repercussions!

          What hellhole of Africa? Under Civilized World rule, they were good countries. They’re hell NOW because savages overthrew it.
          If I told you Detroit in the 1950s, a 9-year-old girl could walk down any street unarmed and unharmed, would you accuse me of being high, or would you treat it as a matter of recorded history?

          If the latter, what changed? Maybe the 5 Corrupt Black Mayors?
          Maybe the abolition of STRESS Units, and replacing the normal cops with Black thugs in uniform who would either turn a brown eye to the mayhem, or offer to help–THE THUGS? Maybe a week-long riot in 1967 that scared off all legit businesses, the whites that depended on them for jobs, and even blacks who DIDN’T want to be part of the permanent crime-wave!

        • Africans were thriving before Europeans fucked them up, they were living in perfect harmony with nature, we had biodegradable houses, we never over fished or bring rhinos and cheetahs to the brink of extinction, we could burn entire Forrests but we never damaged the ozone layer, we never created black Forrests, nor landfills

        • EPGAH

          Best example ever: CONGO.
          Peoples’ Republic my ass.

          http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/06/ignore-congo-atrocities-africa-drc-horror
          We ignore it because every time we tried to fix it, we get bitched out as “imperialist”!

          King Leopold somehow turned it into a private sweatshop and it was peaceful. Britain turned it into Zaire, and it was still peaceful.
          What happened when the Brits left/were overthrown, depending whose version you like?
          If you don’t trust The Guardian, do a quick search for “Congo Atrocities”
          You’ll get an eyeful, I guarantee it!

          If anything, imperialism temporarily made it better.
          Robert had a long spiel about the “Breathtaking Transformative Power” of Civilized World culture on savages. They’re THIS bad now/still, but 400 years ago, they were beyond Hobbesian. In areas where the Civilized World hasn’t fully penetrated, they actually DO exterminate each other.
          As in REAL genocide, no survivors!
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/07/30/the-breathtaking-effects-of-culture-should-not-be-underestimated/

        • EPGAH

          Savages were not THRIVING, the only way you could claim you lived in “harmony with nature” is that disease and each other kept your population low. HOWEVER, savages MADE the Sahara Desert! It used to be a forest or jungle! So don’t start playing Holier-Than-Thou with the environment! Whites have never de-terraformed on THAT scale!

          If you want to bring up the Brazilian Rainforest, go ahead, but I think the Sahara is the tiniest bit bigger!

      • Jason Y

        quote by ep-gah

        As to colonizing another planet, great…But how will you get the savages to leave Earth? Remember, when we offered free land, livestock and tools to leave America and create their own country, only 8,000-13,000 Blacks took us up on the deal. And that was over a CENTURY! Cruise ships take more than that on ONE TRIP — PLUS PASSENGERS!

        The rest stayed behind so they could demand freebies, loot&burn our cities and herass Trump.

        A lot of people didn’t want blacks to leave. The US needed cheap labor at the time. In fact, a lot of whites didn’t like the fact blacks left in great numbers to go the north USA back around 1910.

        Of course, before the Civil War, they REALLY didn’t want blacks to leave the south. They were making a fortune of the cheap labor. However, the planters got greedy, wanted to get into food, rather than luxury crops, and as I said in another post, brought on northern resentment (and war).

        • EPGAH

          A “Lot of people” didn’t want Blacks to leave? You DO realize that Lincoln’s justification to the North for the Civil War was to get rid of the Blacks forever. He meant kick out, not kill. From Lincoln to Eisenhower, that’s 100 years, the Government offered them a FREE trip home.

          However, BEFORE that, there was the Society for American Colonization, which sent Blacks home even BEFORE they were free. Imagine stealing someone’s property and sending it to another country.

          A lot of whites didn’t like Blacks living near THEM in the North. It’s kind of sadly funny. Why do you think segregation lasted so long, even in the North?

          I always thought the Civil War was motivated by the Morill Tariff, but yes, money, not slavery, was the motivator. That’s not the part I’m arguing.
          Illegals are the new slaves, but instead of the owners paying their upkeep, taxpayers — AKA EVERYONE — pays!

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          However, BEFORE that, there was the Society for American Colonization, which sent Blacks home even BEFORE they were free. Imagine stealing someone’s property and sending it to another country.

          So your saying a slave is rightful property? Right? In other words, your saying slavery is morally right and justifiable. Your even saying this statement in the 21st century.

        • EPGAH

          During that time it was. You’re committing the CARDINAL sin of history, which is trying to shoehorn modern laws and ways of thinking into back then.

          Geronimo was a War Criminal, but we treated it like any other enemy. Think about that.

          Now read this carefully:
          BACK THEN, slavery was LEGAL.
          People paid a lot of MONEY for them.
          Only the richest could afford them.
          Ironically, the biggest slaveowners were freed Blacks themselves!
          The irony of that flattens you, right?

          What is the most expensive thing you own? Would you like someone to just TAKE it from you?

    • EPGAH

      Also, it’s been predicted that if we DID get away from their squalor and violence, a champion would rise among them and wreck it so we wouldn’t have it either. That’s the message of the movie “Elysium”

  81. Kareem

    The vast majority of African Americans I have ever met are completely unintellectual. It’s true most are just “smart enough” to get by. I am black. A dark skinned black male and. People always looked at me funny because I was always more interested in books than sports. I don’t think i’m particularly bright but, I spend most of my time reading and have acquired tons of information, that was allowed me to start thinking more critically and making more connections between concepts from my reading and stuff happening in my world.

    • Are you sure you are not just one of them hill billy rednecks?

      • EPGAH

        See, this is the problem Blacks who want to intellectualize face: They get accused of being “white” or at least “Not Black Enough” by the ones who want to remain savage.

        Or they get 50-on-1 beatings by the savages!
        (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uKP7fprWmE)
        Then the savage ones riot because they’re treated like the animals they are, rather than equals to their hosts.

        • Jason Y

          I don’t think that’s anything unique to blacks. Whites accuse other whites who try hard of “blowing the teacher or boss”. Asians consider other Asians who are too nice to whites as “co-towing to a foreign power”. It’s all just nationalism and pride. It has little to do with real “school-phobia” so to speak.

          I guess to an extent I understand it. However, a lot of it is ridiculous and hurts the feelings of other groups. For instance, Malcom X saying “Whites can do nothing to help us.” would have hurt many liberals.

        • Nope you are just a redneck

        • EPGAH

          Wow, really? You or some white you know took a 50-on-one beating for doing too well in work or school?
          If not, then please return to topic: Blacks behave worse than whites.
          Whites may INSULT you for doing better than them, but not BEAT YOU DOWN for it!

  82. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    Has Haiti paid the French back for their lost infrastructure yet?

    The French abused the slaves. The slaves died like crazy, even though they were resistant to disease. They died so much, they had to bring in replacements. So now you want Haiti to pay the French for making their ancestors slaves? Come on. 😆

    Note, even if you think someone is inferior, say children or the mentally retarded, that doesn’t give you free license to abuse them.

    • Jason Y

      Paying white people for making their ancestors slaves. That’s a new one.😆

      • EPGAH

        It does when Moslems or Blacks take white slaves, so why the opposite is so evil?

        And did you look up the Haiti Massacre?

        I don’t want the savages to pay for making their ancestors slave, I want them to pay for STEALING THE COUNTRY! And killing the rightful owners, but that, the dollar amount is too negotiable.

        If someone murders you, your family, and steals all your Earthly possessions, shouldn’t the State take that away from them, plus interest? I think they call it a “fine”!

        • Jason Y

          And did you look up the Haiti Massacre?

          It’s a war. There is no politically correct war. In the Vietnam War, there was even tales of US soldiers making cigar boxes from enemy women soldiers’ breasts.

          I don’t want the savages to pay for making their ancestors slave, I want them to pay for STEALING THE COUNTRY! And killing the rightful owners, but that, the dollar amount is too negotiable.

          They commited the first crime by making slaves of the Africans to begin with. They stole property, human property, first. Next, the so called savages took their property. It’s all revenge and justice, operating on the “fine” idea you quoted.

  83. Jason Y

    Yep, in response to ep-gah, it seems parentless homes cause the crime in South Africa too. So much for the “total genetic theory”🙄

    http://www.economist.com/node/14564621

    The reason for South Africa’s high crime rate is a topic of anguished debate. Apartheid’s brutal legacy, high unemployment and poverty, gaping social inequality, the absence of a father in nearly two-thirds of black homes,

    the absence of a father in nearly two-thirds of black homes,

    • Jason Y

      This blog’s black commenter Tulio was right on the matter. He said that was the problem. It sure is.

    • Jason Y

      Perhaps, in response to the poor Appalachan paradox thing, that applachian whites, despite massive poverty, have two parent homes, or at least some strong cultural background to make up for it. That would explain why cities in West Virginia etc.. are not being burned down and whatnot, and there is no looting.

      • EPGAH

        A strong cultural background, huh? So what stropped savages from either developing a “strong cultural background” or better yet, ditching their failed culture and adopting our clearly more successful one en masse…You know, instead of the contempt they show for our culture, or anyone who “Acts White”™?

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          A strong cultural background, huh? So what stropped savages from either developing a “strong cultural background” or better yet, ditching their failed culture and adopting our clearly more successful one en masse…You know, instead of the contempt they show for our culture, or anyone who “Acts White”™?

          Your talking of an easy solution. You can’t easily fix society problems like that. For instance, the South African problem was caused by AIDS. The US problem was caused by a wrongly designed welfare system among other things.

          Perhaps in a sense they created thier own problem, but in other major ways they did not. However, just calling whole groups of people “savages” etc..is ignoring a lot of key information.

        • EPGAH

          It’s still the savages’ own choices and actions that caused their blisters.
          Didn’t you yourself claim in another thread that savages were incestuous and THAT was what caused them to act like this?
          Incest is a choice, unless you want to blame THAT on videogames too?

          AIDS was and still IS a disease caused by your own choices and actions.

          As to the Welfare system, it was designed originally to help abandoned mothers. Blacks decided to game it…and they’ve been doing so ever since. Who needs a Daddy when you’ve got Uncle–Uncle Sam?
          But seriously, I am saddened that the Welfare caseworkers or whatever they call themselves nowadays doesn’t call BULLSHIT when a woman claims she “doesn’t know who the father is” but KEEPS getting pregnant!

          Cutting off such cartoon-OBVIOUS fraud IS AN EASY SOLUTION!
          You’re trying to make the situation a lot more “complicated” than it is!

    • Jm8

      During much of apartheid, a large part of males in the black population (at least in certain major ethnic groups) worked in mining and other forms of wage labor far from the townships (the only permanent black settlements allowed near cities/outside the designated tribal “homelands”). It was necessary for workers to live lone or semi-long term in all male mining camps away from families (work options for blacks were of course legally restricted). Increased colonial-era absences of men from homes because of wage labor (compelled in some places by colonial taxation eg the British “hut tax”) occurred in other parts of colonial Africa, but (factors contributing to the normalization of long absences) were most extreme in South Africa.

      • Jm8

        Deaths of fathers from Aids is an other more modern contributor(Aids rates being very high, even by African (or other third world) standards. Infection rates for men(especially) were/are influenced by the separation for homes/mobility of many men for long periods (increasing male promiscuity/prostitution).

        Some fathers may be absent but provide support economically to families (one of the of the main purposes of mens labor migration)

        • Jm8

          edit: i meant
          “(increasing male promiscuity/patronisation of of prostitutes)”

        • EPGAH

          Was it their CHOICE to hire whores, or were a gang of invisible whites forcing them to at gunpoint?

          Blacks cause their own blisters — in this case LITERALLY– then try to blame it on whites!

        • Jm8

          “Was it their CHOICE to hire whores, or were a gang of invisible whites forcing them to at gunpoint?”

          Hiring whores has been a common practice of (esp) occupationally itinerant men (away from wives), generally speaking, in (probably) most civilizations/societies and often openly acknowledged as a legitimate societal function. This is seen especially (for instance) in most of Asia, ancient Greece and Rome, and the ancient Mediterranean generally.

        • EPGAH

          Please answer the question: Was it their CHOICE or did whites force it on them?

          I don’t want the “You Do It Too” excuse, and actually, Black behaviors are FAR more pathogenic than whites!
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/why-race-is-important/

        • Jm8

          (to be clear) I am neither approving nor condemning prostitution, but the behaviors I have described (in south Africa) are not particularly black.

        • EPGAH

          Actually, that overlooks a far more fundamental question: Why did the Blacks move into a white country to begin with, THEN complain about the living/working arrangements?

          Shouldn’t you be aware of the rules BEFORE invading a country? Thus precluding bitching about any unpleasant “surprise” laws?

        • Jm8

          “Whites didn’t “take control” of anything, South Africa–the area settled by Brits and Boers–was EMPTY until the whites built something worth taking over.

          They apparently took a 400-year “vacation” then expected to come back and claim the land again? ”

          I’m not sure what you’re not getting. I never said SA blacks were claiming/had rights to land they had abandoned.

          The cape region (the part Bantus had probably not settled) was not technically empty, since the Khoisan (Khoi Khoi) lived there and had for quite some time.
          The map you posted shows the region at an earlier time before the spread of white influence/rule further beyond the cape area, before the conquest (by the Europeans) of the major black groups (and their traditional lands) such as Zulu, Xhosa, Tswana, etc. that form the country’s black population (and thus I do not see its relevance as a response). The expansion, acquiring/conquering black tribes and their lands (e.g.:in the the Xhosa wars and Anglo-Zulu Wars of the 1870’s-80s,) created an enlarged cape colony, whose territory would form the South African state.

          The later range of the colony:

          https://www.google.com/search?q=south+africa+colony&biw=905&bih=774&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjM4LjXteLJAhVL4SYKHfq4ByMQ_AUICCgD#imgrc=HOLzHhZOy_YzRM%3A

          The major black groups of the south African territory came under White rule(lasting for most, about from the late1800’s to the end of apartheid) because their lands were added by conquest/expansion (this being the nature of a conquering expansion) to the European settler state (which would later establish Apartheid over the same territory) .
          The way S.A. black tribes(such as the Zulu and Xhosa) once conquered, lived under white rule in their traditional lands. Migration to a white state from somewhere else, was not responsible.

          map of traditional tribal/ethnic lands

          http://www.south-africa-tours-and-travel.com/bantu.html

        • In 1515 a the Portuguese king recognised the cot of arms of a savage king in the zambezi plateu called mutapa, thats a good 100 years before Van riebek established the cape of good hope, 200 years before the british annexed cape colony, causing the boer trek which happened during the same time of Shaka’s mfecane,
          300 years before the end of the anglo-boer war and almost 400 years before the South Africa Act which resulted in the Union of South Africa and the Rudd concession which resulted in rhodes annexation of what would later on become Zimbabwe
          And no i don’t need to give you links to documentaries or shady websites because this is official

        • Jm8

          Edit: S.A. black tribes(such as the Zulu and Xhosa) and their lands were placed under white rule by conquests/invasions. Black migrations to a white state from somewhere else, was not responsible.

        • EPGAH

          The Zulu INVADED white-held areas. That led to wars, sometimes the whites won, sometimes lost. But nonwhites keep invading white-held areas, either to steal a Better Life or because they think it’ll be easy to overthrow/conquer. Which is it?

      • Jm8

        Whether one patronizes whores is indeed a choice. I didn’t think that needed saying.

        It is well established from archaeology and linguistics that some ethno-linguistic branches of the (south)eastern Bantu settled of (what is now south Africa by about 1300 ad. They settled the the large northernly region called the Transvaall by about 3-400 ad. Kwa Zulu Natal was settled by (probably proto-Nguni speakers by 1300. Early Sotho-Tswana tribes had expanded eastward in the preceding centuries and inhabited the Highveld. Only the South end, now the cape province, might be considered without Bantu, with mostly/only Khoisan groups, when Europeans first came.
        When whites took control of (what is now) south Africa,its population was mostly made up of blacks, who had lived there (or in large parts of the territory) several centuries before the European communities(which mostly began at the cape, settling in the Central-North regions later). The mass of blacks, composed mainly of regionally distinct and long established cultures, could not realistically evade the White-ruled south African state, that included their lands . (Exceptionally, some small and/or isolated tribes, namely the mountain Basotho and the Tiny Swazi kingdom, kept a greater autonomy.)

        On archaeology:

        http://www.saimm.co.za/Journal/v074n06p211.pdf

        http://uctscholar.uct.ac.za/PDF/102065_Warren_KA.pdf

        • EPGAH

          Whites didn’t “take control” of anything, South Africa–the area settled by Brits and Boers–was EMPTY until the whites built something worth taking over.

          They apparently took a 400-year “vacation” then expected to come back and claim the land again? You don’t get to say “It USED to be mine, so it’s mine again”. I have been through 30 houses, and I can’t come back to any of them and say that without a fairly good chance of getting beaten or shot.
          That’s why the savages overthrew the country with a bombing campaign.
          Start by looking up the Church Street Bombing.

          Why couldn’t they “evade”? Staying out of the land of people who “oppress” you should be a survival skill. Kinda like they stayed away from the Zulu’s “Knocking” (A genocidal purge–and I mean genocide as in no survivors, not just using the word for shock-value!) So they knocked on the whites’ gates, “Let us in, the Zulus will kill us!” And the whites were stupid enough to let them in!

          It seems like they came in to take advantage of the Better Life the whites made possible…Then didn’t want to obey the whites’ rules…Why is that nonwhites keep doing that?

  84. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    Yes, we should stop feeding and medicating the savages that kill us, overthrown our countries, then try to invade the countries they haven’t overthrown yet, presumably to repeat the process.
    No other organism feeds its predators! Some even evolve to poison their predators or otherwise inconvenience/kill them. Why should we do differently?

    Maybe ep-gah should apply his own “Darwinian tough love” to white people. No more coddling for the white westerners. None. See how that will affect society. No more medication, easy food etc.. It’s all the jungle baby.

    • EPGAH

      That would be whites giving up white civilization.
      Savages are the ones trying to overthrow or destroy white civilization but keep the benefits.
      MOST whites do not want to go back to the jungle, “baby”, that’s why whites try to keep the riffraff OUT!

  85. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    Wow, really? You or some white you know took a 50-on-one beating for doing too well in work or school?
    If not, then please return to topic: Blacks behave worse than whites.
    Whites may INSULT you for doing better than them, but not BEAT YOU DOWN for it!

    You must be speaking of a really bad neighborhood. Neighborhoods of blacks would vary, just as white ones would. The more ghetto or “full of fatherless kids” it is, then the meaner it would be. Best advice would be for smarter blacks to leave.

    My guess the black ghetto types are jealous, and then combined with a tendency toward violence which has no repression, you’d see a beating. However, jealousy and dislike of what some see as “brown-noses” exists in all cultures. However, in many the least you’d hear is a lot of insulting.

    • EPGAH

      I’m not talking about the damn NEIGHBORHOOD. I’m talking about the SCHOOL. The beatdown took place at the SCHOOL.
      And yes, the fact that the SCHOOL did not control the savages is deplorable. Did you not click the link?

      • Jason Y

        Kids are a_holes in almost any kind of ethnic neighborhood, especially in the middle school years. They bully beyond comprehension. The school usually does nothing, and the punishments are weak. It’s a problem all over the US and in other nations.

        • EPGAH

          That’s not what I said. I said BLACKS did a 50-on-1 beating!
          Now your excuse is “All Kids Do That”?
          Then show me a link, or SOME kind of proof.

          Robert himself wrote an article on how Blacks are WAY more pathogenic than whites!
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/why-race-is-important/

        • Jason Y

          In response to ep-gah. Yes, kids are that pathogenic. They call people names, they throw paper-wads, spit-wads. They drive other kids to commit suicide. All this is true, regardless of race.

          Of course, going from doing the negative things I mentioned into doing an actual beating could be influenced by being in the company of ghetto blacks.

        • EPGAH

          Wow, even you are finally admitting ghetto Blacks are worse. This is a true Red-Letter Day!

        • Jason Y

          quote

          That’s not what I said. I said BLACKS did a 50-on-1 beating!
          Now your excuse is “All Kids Do That”?
          Then show me a link, or SOME kind of proof.

          Robert himself wrote an article on how Blacks are WAY more pathogenic than whites!
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/why-race-is-important/

          Other groups are pathogenic and I’d say whites are also pathogenic. Human beings, regardless of race are pack animals.

          In Asia, from what I saw there, if you make Koreans mad then they all (most of them) will start mouthing off to you, making you feel unwelcome. Also, in America, as I saw at a community college I went to, and also in middle school, that once you become “uncool” then everybody also mouths off to you and makes you feel unwelcome.

          So with blacks it crosses over to beatings, but how do you know it wouldn’t with other groups? Maybe cause people are afraid of punishment. I do know that in prison gangs of any race will kick your ass.

  86. Jason Y

    quote by epgah

    If I told you Detroit in the 1950s, a 9-year-old girl could walk down any street unarmed and unharmed, would you accuse me of being high, or would you treat it as a matter of recorded history?

    If the latter, what changed? Maybe the 5 Corrupt Black Mayors?
    Maybe the abolition of STRESS Units, and replacing the normal cops with Black thugs in uniform who would either turn a brown eye to the mayhem, or offer to help–THE THUGS? Maybe a week-long riot in 1967 that scared off all legit businesses, the whites that depended on them for jobs, and even blacks who DIDN’T want to be part of the permanent crime-wave!

    It probably coincided with the fact that jobs were leaving Detroit. Of course, in later years, the “job leaving” got even worse, with greedy CEOs outsourcing all work to third world sweatshops.

    • EPGAH

      The jobs left because of the violence.
      When your shop gets robbed repeatedly, capped off with burning it down, you get the feeling you’re not wanted there and you leave.

      Whites follow the jobs.
      Nonwhites follow the whites.
      Thankfully, Detroit’s suburbs kept as much of the shit as they could in Detroit. Compare and contrast with Chicago’s suburbs.
      Who could possibly have predicted that keeping bad people out of an area makes it safer and “better”? How did they figure it out? SimCity didn’t come out until 1989!

  87. Jason Y

    quote by musha-washa

    What does ‘civilise’ mean?
    Jim crow, slavery, lynching, raping, burning people alive, calling humans apes, doing monkey chants?

    Good one mush-awasha. Nobody likes to be treated like that. So ep-gah is saying that’s civilization. It would be interesting to turn the tables and put white rednecks in some place where they are treated like that. And of course, the bullies will justify thier actions, calling it “civlization”, or “What are you a wimp or something? Can’t you take it?” 🙄

    • EPGAH

      Noone wants to be treated like that, but as I wrote, that’s the same thing savages did to their white hosts in South Africa.

      If you act like an enemy, expect whites or anyone else to TREAT you like an enemy. Do you deny this, Jason?

      Blacks, especially nowadays, act like fucking Orcs. So why shouldn’t their hosts act like Aragorn?

  88. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    During that time it was. You’re committing the CARDINAL sin of history, which is trying to shoehorn modern laws and ways of thinking into back then.

    Geronimo was a War Criminal, but we treated it like any other enemy. Think about that.

    Now read this carefully:
    BACK THEN, slavery was LEGAL.
    People paid a lot of MONEY for them.
    Only the richest could afford them.
    Ironically, the biggest slaveowners were freed Blacks themselves!
    The irony of that flattens you, right?

    What is the most expensive thing you own? Would you like someone to just TAKE it from you?

    Well, slavery might not have been evil, considering the historical time period, but abuse is always wrong. Definitely, the slaves in Haiti were massively abused.

    Considering the abuse, that alone would be enough to destroy the slaveowners property rights. For instance, in our own day, kids that abused are taken away from natural parents.

    • EPGAH

      Yes, and there was a slave “review board” that took slaves away from abusive owners. But that was NOT your original argument, was it?
      YOU tried to say SLAVERY ITSELF was “wrong”!

      Hell, savages NOWADAYS still practice slavery. Only whites abolished it.
      Does that make us more moral, or does that make us CHUMPS?

      • Jason Y

        quote by ep-gah

        Hell, savages NOWADAYS still practice slavery. Only whites abolished it.
        Does that make us more moral, or does that make us CHUMPS?

        Most non-whites don’t practice slavery nowadays, only isolated groups in places like the Sudan.

        However, though, in poor third world nations, people can often be in a “slave like” situation becuse economically they are very weak. In fact, most of them would volunteer for a “servant” position for the rich, anything to escape poverty, even if it came with bad conditions.

    • EPGAH

      BTW, what exactly is “wrong” with slavery? Do or do not Blacks seek/DEMAND “free” food/housing/clothes/CARS in some States? Should they not be made to work for it? That’s what slavery was!

      And if you think about it, when they get all that WITHOUT working, WE are THEIR slaves!

      • Jason Y

        Well gosh ep-gah, basically your saying that “working” itself is always slavery, cause work is what allows people to enjoy life. Of course though, free workers are not beaten with whips.

        Well, anyhow, Marx argued the same thing in his writings. The working man was essentially a slave because without work he would starve to death, even though he wouldn’t get an actual bullwhip on his back.

        • EPGAH

          Working is not slavery. The question is, does it benefit you?

          Yes, you’re a slave to your biological desires/impulses. That’s from what, ULTRON? If we could evolve not to need food, (Ignoring the ATP chain, pretending that’s biologically even POSSIBLE!) we could evolve not to work…BUT what good is that? Do you really want humanity to become a bunch of lazy bastards?
          If we were all that lazy, no advancement would ever have taken place, so you wouldn’t have TV or videogames to enjoy, you’d die of boredom.

          The good news is, because noone wants to work, there would be no doctors or pills extending your boring life. The bad news is, you wouldn’t live long enough to get bored. “Nasty, Brutish, and Short”–Name That Quote!

  89. Jason Y

    musha-washa is injecting too much black nationalism into the debate, while ep-gah, obviously, is doing the same with white nationalism.

    We can say that the environment and impact of foreign oppression has taken it’s toll on black people, but we can also say some things are the result of free will choice on the part of blacks.

    Yes, colonialsm and the modern way has helped blacks, but this introduction of the modern way has also came with massive abuse. We can say the same thing holds true among anywhere else the Europeans colonized.

    You can’t justify abuse by saying “We did you a favor.” For instance, it’s true kids are provided with many things by parents, but it does not give the parents the right to abuse. Likewise, If aliens came to Earth and helped out mankind, that would be great, but not if it goes hand to hand with abuse.

    • EPGAH

      Can we also say the same wherever savages overthrew white civilization, starting with the Moslem “Moors” colonizing Europe after the fall of Rome?

      Also where do you draw the line of “abuse”? If the savages are violent, is whatever Level of force necessary to stop that violence “abuse” or merely PUNISHMENT? Parents can no longer discipline their kids because people like you call it ABUSE!

      • Jason Y

        Muslim Moors are not sub-saharan Africans. Anyhow, I know that Muslims enslaved and brutalized people. The slavery they practiced with sub-saharan Africans was far worse than what Europeans did.

        • EPGAH

          OK, great, I somehow got you to admit that. BUT will you admit the same thing about the savages that overthrew white countries treating whites worse than the whites ever treated them? Admitting the countries are worse is one thing, admitting the savages are worse to their betters is quite another.

          Start with South Africa. Did you follow ANY of the links I gave you about it yet?

      • Jason Y

        Also where do you draw the line of “abuse”? If the savages are violent, is whatever Level of force necessary to stop that violence “abuse” or merely PUNISHMENT? Parents can no longer discipline their kids because people like you call it ABUSE!

        Perhaps the slaves would have been less violent if they had been treated well from the beginning. I assume in Haiti that wasn’t the case.

        • Jason Y

          As far as actual abuse goes, as far as kids are concerned, and I guess you could expand it to slaves, we can see what is abuse and what is punishment very clearly.

          Of course, in an actual slavery situation it would be wise to use positive reinforcement first before negative stuff. You would want a “so so” good relationship with the slaves. It would be like how a prison might make consessions to the prisoners.

        • Jason Y

          Note, normally kids who are raised well from the start need less severe whippings than brats who had never been punished in their life.

        • EPGAH

          No, your last paragraph is the right one. Kids who were raised well from the start need less punishment than brats who never been punished in their life.

          But Haiti did something dumber: They imported WAY more savages than they could control. If a human with a whip can control can control X savages, and one with a gun can control 10X savages, importing 100X savages is Really STUPID!

          Savages are like very VIOLENT kids. They can easily overpower an adult or small groups of adults if they outnumber their prey enough.
          Look up a John Wayne movie “Cowboys” where this concept of children outnumbering and overpowering adults was put to POSITIVE use.
          Or pick your favorite zombie movie for a closer example of how it feels to be outnumbered and overpowered by savages.

          Did you look up Susan Dlott yet? A FEDERAL JUDGE who FIGHTS AGAINST RACIAL PROFILING, thinking Blacks are “unfairly” targeted–and the thugs STILL attacked her! She called 911 and reported 3 BLACK thugs threw her husband down the stairs! (When the chips are down and their OWN lives or loved ones are on the lines, even the biggest “anti-racists” can admit Blacks are the problem! Miraculous, if hypocritical, don’t you think?)
          Afterwards, two-faced “Civil Rights” types said they nearly LOST a great ally! Lost? No, you LOSE a comb or a pair of scissors, or your keys, they nearly MURDERED their own ally. That’s how feral savages are!

    • Ive feel insulted black nationalist are idiots just like white nationalist

      • Jason Y

        Sorry, but yes I agree with that statement. I only said that cause you made some statement where you said Africa would have been better off if whites had never invaded with all thier advanced technology etc..

        • Well im not a nationalist, i think of myself as a logicist and i understand the damage that concrete, glass, plastics, rubbers , factories etc africans were living in pefect hamony with the environment which is the biggest challenge in engineering today, creating designs that has the least possible effect on the environment

        • EPGAH

          Hey, what about turning the Sahara FOREST into the Sahara DESERT?
          Perfect harmony with the environment is impossible, especially if the savages were developing technologically even WITHOUT civilization!

          If you want to pretend they had great structures, where did they get the materials for that?
          What about smelting? It pollutes, and you have to skim off the slag. What are you gonna do with that?
          And of course, the savages OWN waste is a problem, especially with their mega-breeding!

        • The sahara is a desert because air masses in the northern hemisphere move from north-east to south west , so there is a big landmass between the ocean (where most rain come from) and the sahara. Kindergarten geography

        • EPGAH

          Take a look at India if you want to see how shit can impact an environment.
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/sickening-photos-from-shithole-india/

          2000 years ago Romans had working sewage systems. today Indians don’t even know how to bury their shit. I think that pretty much says it all as to comparing civilized to savages and their environmental impact!

        • EPGAH

          Also, slash&burn farming methods contribute to desertification of the Sahel!

      • EPGAH

        Yes, and you’re a Black Nationalist, claiming the savages were better off.
        If you really care about the environment, get savages to stop using cars, and stop building factories. (Good luck with that!)
        Savages, however, do not give the expletive of your choice about the environment as long as they get PAID! It’s true in Africa, Brazil, China, India…

        You want the benefits without whites in control? You got it! Now you bitch about pollution, but it’s actually because only whites really care about the environment… AND THOSE WHITES ARE NO LONGER IN CONTROL! Your Wish, Majesty!

        Say it with me: Savages are not peaceful, it has to be forced on them.
        Savages are not eco-friendly.

        http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n3p-7_Beary.html
        Read this article. Savages were not called that for cadence in Disney film.

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          2000 years ago Romans had working sewage systems. today Indians don’t even know how to bury their shit. I think that pretty much says it all as to comparing civilized to savages and their environmental impact!

          Upper class Indians have advanced toilet systems. They simply allow the lower classes to wallow in garbage, much as Brazil does the same with it’s poor nieghborhoods. At least in the USA, the projects have toilet systems, but beyond that, they’re pretty dangerous places.

        • Actually savages polute less, thats why there are no black forests in africa, or those pollution smog that happens in china and india, same thing used to happen in Detroit
          The only hole in the ozone layer is above US/Canada/Uk
          While discovery channel might make you think its savages, its actually the civilised people

          Black Nationalist think that white people are inherently evil,
          I dont think whites are evil
          I just know that they just as stupid as blacks

        • EPGAH

          OK, then why are our countries successful and peaceful?
          Why are whites the great inventors who HAVE to provide plumbing for the savages?
          Why are white countries peaceful, and when savages take over, they become Superjail outtakes?

          Also, you might want to Google “Africa Pollution”, forests aren’t what you’re polluting…

        • Your countries are successful because they colonised the whole world and exploited its resources

        • EPGAH

          The projects are only dangerous because of the savages within them, NOT because of structural unsoundness.
          Once again, poor Blacks are more violent than poor whites. If it’s not due to IQ, then WHAT? Is there some magic on whites that makes us mostly peaceful, that makes our countries safe, wonderful places where savages WANT to invade, and don’t get killed when they do? (Even when they kill US!)

        • EPGAH

          No, it’s because WE KNOW WHAT WE’RE DOING!
          You even stole our countries and couldn’t keep them running!
          You conquer them and turn them to shit!
          From Detroit to Haiti to South Africa!

  90. Jason Y

    In response to South African ethnic conflict, that’s the way it is anywhere in the world. When I was in Korea, Koreans were jealous of American power and resentful of the US military bases. So they gave anyone who they thought was American a hard time.

    They would bring up shit like “colony” or “Bin Laden” or “9/11”, anything to be “punk” and insult the American.

    So in South Africa, it’s much the same. I’m sure it was the “in thing” to be proud to be black, and so that made the whites a target, especially if the whites were unwilling to be “puppets” of the blacks.

    Note, this stuff can fan up into a bigger problem if the white person cheats the non-whites or abuses them somehow. But even without that stuff, they’re always angry, and there will be a few that will start stuff.

    Of course, with whites, it’s also the same thing. As I said with the community college thing, whites are pack animals, if they think your gay or a brown-noser, then they start mouthing off to you, glaring at you. They start developing an “us vs them mentality” and your ass is the target.🙄

    • Jason Y

      Oh I and I mentioned the island of Tinian (a US commenwealth) in the Pacific) where everyone on the island hates one family, a family which owns everything on the island. I find that situation amusing, cause it shows how human beings have to “hate something” no matter where they are.

    • EPGAH

      OK, what white country do they chop up nonwhites?
      For that matter, what other countries does it go beyond mouthing off/glaring at you to scenes from HOSTEL?

      • Jason Y

        A lot of times white, northeast asian people would like to torture you, but they can’t cause it’s illegal, so they do everything short of it. Being a hated American during the Bush years I know all about it.

        • Jason Y

          As far as Euro torture goes, well actually, there are plenty of tales of Russians torturing Christian missionaries etc.. Those people are white. Also, according to some historians, the Nazis did medical experiments on people.

          The Middle Ages was full of all kinds of torture at the hands of whites and also Roman times.

        • EPGAH

          Yes, but in northeast Asian countries, either their own cops will stop them if they throw more than bad words, or you are allowed to fight back.

          Now please answer my question. In South Africa, savages chop up whites. I can link you pictures or you can search for yourself.
          What countries do whites chop up savages? Or is the aggression one-way, and NOT the good one?

        • EPGAH

          Well, until Putin, Russia was an honorary nonwhite. Where do you think the Black Panthers, PLA, IRA, and ANC (Savages overthrowing South Africa) got their weapons?

          And are you really trying to compare the Inquisition and WWII to now? Because we did it back then, it’s OK for savages to do it now?
          THAT is the argument you’re going to go with?

          If you really believe that, then we should resume WWII with the savages taking the Nazi’s role, right?

  91. Suppression

    “Start with South Africa. Did you follow ANY of the links I gave you about it yet?”

    The Boer shouldn’t have been there in the first place.

    Remember: Europe for the Europeans, Africa for the Africans, South America for the South Americans, and Asia for the Asians.

    • Jason Y

      That whole idea is baloney. A group with superior weapons, a better immune system (most of all) among other things will always take over an area. Actually, that’s just the way nature operates, I’m not even complaining about it.

      The South African experiment was doomed to fail cause the Boers didn’t have better immune systems than the blacks, only superior weapons and technology. Ultimately, the Boers have to concede that they’re going to have to allow the blacks to be the master (as the blacks are the majority) or leave.

      • Jason Y

        Maybe there were few blacks when the Boers settled, but because South Africa is so close geographically to the rest of Africa, it was inevitable that blacks from the north would come in. Eventually, the Boers would have to become a minority.

        • Jason Y

          I think the biggest problem with Boers is they’re Boering (boring).😆

          Get a few jokes going on, and you might get South Africa back.

        • EPGAH

          You’re saying they HAD to let in all comers, they couldn’t/shouldn’t have defended their borders?

        • EPGAH

          If that’s true, whites are going to be the majority in ALL white countries. We pay for the savages to outbreed us, then once they’re the majority, they take over the country.

          America is only 60% American now, by the last Census…

        • This notion of black invasions are just wishful thinking from nationalist
          When SouthAfica and all other black nations were built, white people relied on black labour who they forced to work by using the tax system,
          Unfortunately i didn’t study South African history that much to know the actual Acts, but in Zimbabwe were im from they introduced hut tax (a one room pole and dagga primitive hut had to pay tax, not just the land but every hut), cattle tax, dog tax, head tax (every savage paid tax so if you had 10 wives and 100 children which was normal at the time, you paid 111times more than a single savage i say savage because this only applied to africans) and the land husbandry act, which simply stated that all fertile grazing lands and all good farming land belonged to whites, and africans were moved to unproductive lands,
          And still savages resisted working for whites at first by simply selling their livestock to pay tax, until they got too poor and had no choice but to go and work. Yet they resisted enough (in the first dacades) that the whites were forced to import labour by PAYING immigrants to come from nations that had already been broken such as Mozambique, Zambia, Malawi, and India
          Do you know that Durban in South Africa has the has the highest population of indians in any city thats not in India, in the World, and no they did not invade South Africa, Union of South Africa government paid them and paid for their travel to South Africa

        • EPGAH

          Yes, I DO know about South Africa importing people from INDIA. But the people from INDIA did not blow up anything, murder anyone, or takeover the country!

          Why shouldn’t people have the best land in their own country? Whites built the country, not the savages.

          But the big question is: Why did Blacks come IN instead of FLEE if they were so badly treated? Have you ever heard of the Berlin Wall? Barbed wire, machinegun nests, the actual wall, and a network of informants from your wildest dreams were not enough to keep people INSIDE!

          Why did savages cheat the system? Did they not figure out that would hurt them eventually? Why move into a place, then resist the law?

        • I was using the example of indians to show that white people ‘ built ‘ african countries using black labour and in the case of south africa which was growing faster than they could cope they had to get extra labour from India
          Point being IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR WHITES TO ‘ BUIT’ BY THEMSELVES they simply didn’t have the labour so they forced people they had subjugate into labour using atrocious laws that only affected natives
          Again lemme reiterate SAVAGES DID NOT INVADE WHITE TOWNS IN AFRICA, THEY WERE FORCED INTO THEM
          and you cant say ‘why didn’t they flee’
          Flee to where when you good folks had colonised the whole fucking continent?

        • EPGAH

          That sounds like the lack of Big Picture intelligence from the top of the article!

          Also, Moslems are invading Europe right now, and America is getting overrun by Moslems, Mexicans, and ungrateful Blacks who “hate” it here, but not enough to actually LEAVE!

        • EPGAH

          I know about the tax system. It sounds like the tax system was setup to punish polygyny and encourage assimilation. Is that “bad” to you too?

          It also sounds like some of the “fair” tax proposals floating around America nowadays! Get taxed on what you USE, High Rollers get soaked, minimalists like me get away Scot-free (In this case, literally, look up the meaning of the phrase!). I can’t imagine why it keeps getting defeated…
          Probably because it would soak Saudi multibillionaires, who buy extra houses just to store sports cars in them?

        • It was built to force people to work because they couldn’t make it without black labour and black produce until they could understand the land

        • EPGAH

          http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12/17/migrants-storm-channel-tunnel-armed-iron-bars-hammers/
          ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT Black thugs invading England.
          So what was that about wishful thinking?

          Please note, if this was wishful thinking, it should be repelled with a lot more than tear gas, right?

        • EPGAH

          Why would you come to a country and NOT be there to work?

        • Coming from where ……thin air?

        • EPGAH

          Whites set aside “Homelands”. Just like the Reservations for the savages here.

          But why takeover our country?
          And if you’re our equals, why can’t you keep it running after stealing it?
          Or did you savages break it intentionally?
          THAT’S why you can’t have nice things!

          Either way, give us back our countries, and stay in the reservations, or don’t bitch about rules we set up.
          Tell the truth: Savages came in because they saw “Economic Opportunity”, right? Otherwise, no amount of incentive would’ve drawn them in.
          Also, you contradicted yourself: First you say we couldn’t build it, then you say it was growing faster than we could handle. Which is it?

          I think whites could’ve built it, it would’ve just been slower. Orania proves this. Whites BOUGHT BACK land from the savage thieves and built an all-white country! Essentially, whites are on the Reservation in their own country, and paying the savages for the “privilege”!

        • EPGAH

          Parts of the continent we didn’t civilize. Take another look at that map.
          Why didn’t the Bantu stay and fight the Zulu instead of invade and fight US?

        • Zulus are in south africa which was boers republic of south africa, so yo cant invade kwazulu-natal without invading SA, in the same way that i cant invade DC without invading the US

        • Jason Y

          quote by ep-gah

          You’re saying they HAD to let in all comers, they couldn’t/shouldn’t have defended their borders?

          Ok, if were going to use that logic, then the Amerindians should have defended their borders, but they couldn’t cause they were too weak.

          Anyhow logically speaking, and I’m even somewhat Amerindian myself saying this, there was no way to stop the influx of Europeans coming in.

        • EPGAH

          That’s a good point, BUT historically, the Wampanoags fed us, got us to fight their bullies, then tried to kill US when their bullies were gone.
          If we can beat their bullies, we can beat them, and we proved it to them.

          BUT the fact remains: The savages fought the civilized.
          Why are the civilized NOT fighting the savages? At the very least, send the savages invading NOW some poison arrows, like the savages did us 400 years ago. At best, raise the BAR…or at least a Maxim.
          We can argue WHAT weapons to use, but let’s start fighting back first!

        • EPGAH

          No, they weren’t, look at the map again. It’s more like invading Mexico without invading America.

          Either way, why don’t the savages give back what they stole (Well, the property, they can’t restore life, obviously), and either leave the country or THEY stay on the Reservations.

          The Zulus came from outside, they weren’t forced into the country.

        • What map are you talking about?
          South africa is and was always one huge country encompassing the whole southen tip of Africa south of the limpopo

    • EPGAH

      Right, how do you explain all the Blacks, South Americans, etc. in America, and all the Moslem Terrorists in ANY European country?

    • EPGAH

      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12/17/migrants-storm-channel-tunnel-armed-iron-bars-hammers/
      Savages will lay down their lives to invade OUR country, but won’t risk dying to defend their own. Tells us a LOT, doesn’t it?

      • Jason Y

        They’re not savages, they’re just humble farmers driven off thier land by guess who? The USA and it’s greedy companies.

        Ok, you could say some Mexican gangs are savages, but for the most part the people coming in are very ordinary latinos.

        • Jason Y

          The US and it’s companies are fucking Latin America before Latin Americans come and fuck us. That’s for sure. What about NAFTA among many other things?

        • EPGAH

          Yes, but we’re not a new country that NEEDS more people. We’ve got what, a 20% unemployment rate? So we should keep out all but the absolute most EXTRAORDINARY! A or S rank in whatever field we need, right?

          Also, Mexican gangs are NOT an AAEO operation, they ONLY hire Mexicans, so if we keep Mexicans out, we’ll have ZERO Mexican gangs too, right? Double Bonus?

          And if we let them IN, we get shit like that Mexican Moslem who was a straw buyer for the San Bernadino terrorists, if not the third shooter.

          NAFTA was something they agreed to, so they must’ve wanted it. Why didn’t they tell us “Make Me”, like they do with our border? Even though we keep sending them BILLIONS, it’s not enough until they turn our country into theirs.

          If I wanted to live in Mexico, you have my Word, Wild Mexicans couldn’t stop me. I do not. I want even LESS for them to turn America INTO Mexico.
          What’s the use of fleeing if they’re just going to turn their new host into the same Hell they fled?

  92. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    Wow, even you are finally admitting ghetto Blacks are worse. This is a true Red-Letter Day!

    I have never defended ghetto blacks, only expressed some sadness for them as thier situation came from one parent homes.

    However, white nationalists want to viscously attack “all blacks” as oppposed to ghetto blacks.

    • Ghetto blacks are just victims of their society, there is a reason why nationalists always pic south africa out of fifty-something countries in africa, thats because the vast majority of them do not rampant crime, out of south africa, nigeria, botswana, rape and murder are almost unheard of in sub sahara

      • EPGAH

        Well, South Africa, Rhodesia, Zaire (Now CONGO) were OVERTHROWN by Black savages. In almost anyone’s mind, that’s a little worse than a “little rape and murder” or whatever. South Africa has become the Rape Capital of the WORLD!

        You shouldn’t talk so much about Nigeria. It’s the only country in the WORLD that has a scam named after it–or has become infamous for Internet scamming at all, for that matter. Worse, Nigeria has started a maritime piracy racket. Guess they got jealous of Somalia having all the fun?

        • The whole of europe used to be a Roman colony and the european savages, romans used that exact word, revolted and overthrew them

        • Jason Y

          Europeans are only savages at soccer matches.

        • EPGAH

          So Romans aren’t Europeans in your mind? What does that make Romans, then, Space Aliens?

          And when the Goths destroyed Rome, the parasitic Moors came in.
          Some claim the Moors “civilized” Europe, but if that were true, people like you would be grateful, rather than bitching, when the Civilized World repaid the favor.
          Whites were slaves of savages for 700 years. They “tolerated” us as long as we paid our Jizya, or EXISTENCE TAX! That’s not tolerance, that’s extortion!

          Being conquered like that kickstarted European aggression. The only way to not have That happen again, is to conquer savages before they conquer us. Maybe we had it too good too long, and that’s why we got complacent and the savages did it to us again?

          People who are ignorant of their past will defile their present and destroy their future. Posterity must honor above all earthly things, those who have given their lives or freedom for the preservation of the folk.

        • Not back then, they saw themselves as people and you as savage, if you called them say english the’d be deeply insulted
          But thats not the point, the point is its not just niggas who revolted and overthrew their oppressors, superior arians did as well

        • EPGAH

          Well, if you really want to go there, then the point is when there is a successful revolt against a better culture, a lesser one takes over.
          In Europe’s case, the Moors.

          In South Africa’s case, the savages. Even though they stole the whole country, they couldn’t even MAINTAIN it at the Level the whites had.

          Same with the Goths, with the worse side-effect that the Moors and their supporters in THIS era brag that the terrorists “brought civilization and baths”…No, they rebuilt what the Romans had already built, then tried to claim credit for it.

          The savages of South Africa started the overthrow by blowing up a bank. Did they ever rebuild it? If so, did the SAVAGES build a bank? Or just rebuild what their betters already had?

          And if you look up how the Goths behaved, “savage” would be a perfect word. Primitive and violent.

        • When is the last you visited South Africa ?

        • EPGAH

          Let’s see…15 years ago? Is the savages’ murder of their betters ever going to stop, or why are you asking? Ever since the savages took over, it’s getting worse.

          Hint: supremacism is about ruling over others, survivalism is about staying alive. If a group is worried about its disappearance due to mass-immigration and miscegenation, even outright violence, then they are survivalists and not supremacists. Falsely accusing them of supremacism raises the suspicion that you don’t want them to survive.

    • EPGAH

      Well, even if you say “some” Blacks are bad, the rest gather around them and DEFEND them, rather than put them down for us.

      White thugs get killed, I lead the nation in a slow-clap.
      Black thugs get killed, other Blacks riot.

      And it goes to the national scale too. When Hitler stepped out of line, the rest of the whites put him back down.
      When Mandela/Mugabe/Zuma got out of line, the rest of the Blacks helped them. When the President of Sudan got indicted by the ICC, Mugabe’s thugs protected it from justice.
      See the difference yet?

      Whether you’re “sad” over it or not, it needs to be punished!

      • Jason Y

        Punished? How about correcting society so it doesn’t produce more ghetto people?

        • EPGAH

          Because breeding is considered a “right” even for ghetto thugs?
          Or perhaps especially for ghetto thugs?

          As long as they can keep breeding, no matter how wrong their methods are socially, morally, even LEGALLY, if they can keep breeding, that’s all that counts.

        • EPGAH

          To be glib, I hate it when SJWs talk about correcting society to HELP savages. Society needs to CORRECT the savages, not vice-versa!

  93. EPGAH

    The concept of “equality” is declared a lie by every evidence of Nature. It is a search for the lowest common denominator, and its pursuit will destroy every superior race, nation, or culture. In order for a plow horse to run as fast as a race horse you would first have to cripple the race horse. Conversely, in order for a race horse to pull as much as a plow horse, you would first have to cripple the plow horse.

    In either case, the pursuit of equality is the destruction of excellence.

    • Jason Y

      Some are better than others at certain things. Each has his own unique talent, but there is no need to be an ASS about it. It’s all about good sportsmanship etc.., stuff you might learn playing sports as a kid.

      • Jason Y

        Why would I say that? Cause white nationalists are obsessed with superiority, where it trumps (no pun intended) everything else, stuff like morality, justice, etc… Superiority isn’t everything. What about humility for a change? How about humility even 10 percent of the time?

        Most places are about being humble. For instance, one reason drill instructors are harsh to recruits is to make them humble. Also, a typical student everyone hates in school is one that’s arrogant, and to an extent it could be justified.

    • Jason Y

      Note even Marx said “Each according to his own ability,” It’s not about making everything equal, but letting all talent have a chance to shine on an equal field. For instance, you could have the greatest musician in the world, in some oppressive situation where you’d never even know he existed.

    • Jason Y

      Also note a lot of times talent isn’t developed cause nobody takes an interest in helping anyone. For instance, how would some low caste Indian, or lower class Brazillian ever develop thier talent given a massive lack of resources?

  94. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    What are Blacks better at?

    And on your point about arrogance, how is it “arrogance” to claim you’re better when you’re an A student in a roomful of Ds?
    YOUR house is the one the savages keep wanting to invade, and while there, they steal or break EVERYTHING, and don’t even take their shoes off!

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12/17/migrants-storm-channel-tunnel-armed-iron-bars-hammers
    Where’s the good sportsmanship, humility, morality, or justice in that?

    Blacks are good at all sorts of things, generally speaking, music, sports etc..

    Your making huge generalizations of non-whites saying they want to invade like hostle space aliens on some sci-fi movie.

    Also, remember, often they’re invading cause US companies etc.. fucked them to start with, taking thier land, jobs etc…

    • EPGAH

      It’s not a “generalization”, and they ARE acting like Orcs, if not hostile aliens.

      Can you name a nonwhite country with a POSITIVE NET IMMIGRATION RATE?
      And I already posted the link where the scum were attacking the English with bars and hammers, right? Are you going to deny the attackers are Black? Or their attack earns the appellation “savage”?

      If our companies go to their country, they’re GETTING jobs without the risk or stress of having to invade our country. So what’s the problem exactly?

      • Jason Y

        The companies are stealing land to make “mega-farms”. They’re destroying farmers by sending in cheap US imports.

        • EPGAH

          How are they stealing land? You mean BUYING it, right? Offering more for the land than the savages can afford?

          If they STEAL land, that would leave a big hole, and we could toss all misbehaving Third Worlders into it, right?

    • EPGAH

      I’ll completely recant the invasion part if you can name ONE COUNTRY that whites built that nonwhites stayed out of. COUNTRY, not city. I know you were thinking Orania.

      Actually, that’s too difficult. How about a country where nonwhites behave themselves instead of either attacking us DIRECTLY or constantly demanding changes to the law that hurt us and benefit the invaders?

      • Jason Y

        After the 1965 act, non whites were staying out of the US generally speaking, except for some random groups (like Chinese setting up restaurants etc..). The big “invasion” happened in the 90s when free trade started to come into play.

        Ok, why was there no Mexican invasion in the 70s or 80s, even though the 1965 immigration act had passed?

    • EPGAH

      Well, too bad music and sports are literally one-in-a-million careers.
      Some get super-rich in it–and blow all the money!

      But what can they do that is actually useful to society?
      And why are the bulk of them a MENACE to society?
      Spike Lee is coming out with a movie “Chiraq”–and trying to play it as comedy! Blacks are PROUD of being violent thugs, so why would they stop?

      • Jason Y

        Music is useful to society. People listen to it everyday, It shapes people’s thoughts, feelings, ideas etc..

        Blacks are PROUD of being violent thugs, so why would they stop?

        So what? Whites like Mafia movies. All sorts of people, though its wrong, love the “dark side of human nature”.

  95. Jason Y

    quote by epgah

    What’s the use of fleeing if they’re just going to turn their new host into the same Hell they fled?

    Don’t you get it? Latin America is a hell for the lower classes cause free trade. instigated by the USA, caused it.

    Of course, we don’t need immigration from Latin America, but clearly, it’s a case of a bunch of shit the USA started.

  96. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    What’s the use of fleeing if they’re just going to turn their new host into the same Hell they fled?

    Latin America is a hell caused by USA instigated free trade.

    • EPGAH

      Wow, way to dodge a question.

      No, our companies are moving/have moved down there, so they can get our jobs on a silver platter without the annoyance of invading a country that really doesn’t want them. AND their countries must’ve been shit otherwise they never would accept a Free Trade Agreement.

      Now answer the question: Why turn America into the same Hell they fled? Why not just stay in their own shit instead of inflict it on us?

      • Jason Y

        AND their countries must’ve been shit otherwise they never would accept a Free Trade Agreement.

        That’s hilarious.. Maybe the upper classes are shit. You know the ones young fascists in the USA like to glamorize. General Rodriquez Jose De – US Puppet’s government.

        • Jason Y

          Free trade agreements are great for Latin America’s upper classes. Of course, they love them. Of course, if the lower classes don’t like them, the upper classes can just dump them on the US via emigration. Of course, the upper classes would like to see them gone anyway. Ih fact, in a lot of those nations, they actually go out and kill street children.

        • Jason Y

          Why not dump the lower classes on America? According to these idiot upper class Latin Americans, America is the land of opportunity, the never ending “Ellis Island”. Hey at least they’re showing some mercy. The upper classes other option is to kill them like unwanted dogs at a shelter. This whole idea I’m sure is easing their troubled conscience.

        • Jason Y

          Have you ever thought a lot of this dumping might not be idiotic after all? The upper classes don’t want a revolution against them, a communist revolution, so they dump out the lower classes on the US. That’s what I think.

    • EPGAH

      https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/09/02/white-california-rip/
      Robert says it’s a BAD thing to turn any part of America, even California, into Mexico!

      Did they do that on purpose, or is it just a function of their existence, like gangrene toxifying your body by its very presence?

      • Jason Y

        It doesn’t matter whether you think it’s a bad idea. The upper classes in Latin America want free trade, but they have too many lower class people getting fucked by it, so they want to get rid of some of them by promising them a good future in the US.

        If some Mexican is making a huge amount sweeping the floor in the US, then free trade in the Mexico doesn’t matter. He’s getting paid back for the trouble.

        • Jason Y

          We all saw what importing Rice into Haiti did, even Clinton aplogized for it, citing it as a major “fuck up”. Well, that’s what’s going on in Latin America. It’s creating chaos. but the elites can get out of this “dangerous situation” by just dumping people on the US.

        • EPGAH

          GASP Are you admitting Mexico’s upper class–maybe Mexico’s GOVERNMENT (Such as it is) is dumping the shit they don’t want to be bothered with on US? Didn’t you earlier claim they would never do such a thing?

          And yes, an illegal makes 5X more in America–as a criminal–than it would as a citizen in its own country. How is that “paid back for the trouble”? It has nothing to do with free trade. It’s just that that 5X is 1/3 the amount an American would make as Minimum Wage.
          And if it gets hurt, the illegal can fraud the ER. An American is traceable and its property could be taken so the HOSPITAL gets paid back for the trouble! That’s far more important than a foreign criminal, right?

          If Liberals care AT ALL about “income inequality” bullshit, they need to join ranks with Conservatives and shut the borders!

        • EPGAH

          The problem with that “rice into Haiti” thing, is that if we DIDN’T give them cheap food, the poorest savages STARVE. And if we DO, their farmers bitch they can’t make a GOOD profit.

          Why don’t their OWN farmers feed their OWN losers, rather than always demanding WE do, and blaming us when it causes side-effects?

          And always remember: Those scum won’t starve for the Good of their Country, they’ll invade America before they’d let Lord Darwin claim them, right?

  97. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    The projects are only dangerous because of the savages within them, NOT because of structural unsoundness.
    Once again, poor Blacks are more violent than poor whites. If it’s not due to IQ, then WHAT? Is there some magic on whites that makes us mostly peaceful, that makes our countries safe, wonderful places where savages WANT to invade, and don’t get killed when they do? (Even when they kill US!)

    The projects are bad cause they are full of grown up “one parent household” children. That’s the magic ingredient making them meaner than poor whites from two parent homes. Also you have to add in the negative effect of Hollywood, rap. poverty etc..

    • EPGAH

      GREAT! How do we stop the savages from breeding OTHER than spaying/neutering them like any other animal that can’t control itself?
      It’s kinda obvious by now they’re not going to stop on their own, right?

      Or do you think they just need a few more DECADES and they’ll just turn around on their own?

      You’re arguably the best example of making excuses instead of making dead savages.

      This seems to be an exclusively white trait, savages have ZERO compunction killing us in their countries or in areas of ours they infest.

      • Jason Y

        Oh yeah? 🙄 What about when Hitler invaded the east to gain “living space” for the German population? Also, the whole thing with Euro settlers coming to North America, Australia etc.. involved a lot of broken treaties etc.., especially when the land was deemed good for farming or gold.

        • Jason Y

          Oklahoma was given to white settlers to punish the five civlized tribes for siding with the Confederacy. But really? Even though it wasn’t a broken treaty, I’m sure the whites REALLY wanted that good farmland. It was just an excellent excuse to take it.

        • EPGAH

          What about when Hitler invaded the rest? The other countries resisted him. Russia even burnt their OWN farms to starve the Nazis!
          Instead, we not only give our invaders food and water — and medical attention to PREVENT them from dying — we even give them free housing because we usually let them stay!

          That is the OPPOSITE of resisting, let alone KILLING, invaders!
          Invaders expect us to feed them because we do. They bitch at US when some die in the desert. Invasion 101 is bring enough food and water to sustain your invasion! I mean really, how stupid is it to expect the country to feed its enemies? And is the country that actually DOES SO more stupid than the invaders that expect it?

          No, the savages broke the treaties in North America. All except, oddly enough, a group in New York! For whatever reason, they held fast to the treaty. Possibly because they saw what happened when savages betrayed us?

          Australia, the whites restricted THEMSELVES from civilizing it. Which is really stupid, because savages want to come into the civilized part and take advantage of the luxuries, PLUS they keep letting in illegals–mostly from terrorist countries. They finally implemented a “Stop The Boats” policy–and they’ve been clear for 7 months! Sometimes it really is that simple! Someone like you would’ve said “It’s a complicated problem”, done nothing, and the problem would continue.

          Keeping illegals out is more important for Australia than even for America, because ¾ of the land is not civilized, which is a mind-boggling waste of land. For comparison, think of trying to cram America’s whole population into the original 13 States.

      • Jason Y

        The strong always take from the weak, no matter what race. What argument do you have here? Your saying whites don’t do that? Of course, I’m not making some whiny plea on behalf of the weak to stop taking it. I’m just stating the facts and the fact of your ridiculous argument.

        • EPGAH

          Whites not only don’t do it, we give TO our enemies!

          Robert had a post a LONG time ago that pointed out the savages were the start of it all:

          “Blacks show up in the civilized, non-White society.

          After a while, they begin engaging in mass uncivilized behavior, the most important of which is that they commit an utterly insane amount of crime.

          Logically, police begin profiling them and whatnot.

          Logically, police begin arresting an incredible number of Black criminals. Why? Because the Blacks are commiting a surreal amount of crime.

          Because cops are arresting a huge portion of the Black population, inevitable excesses result.

          Pretty soon, Blacks begin screaming about “police brutality!”

          Police institute all sorts of sensitivity measures, but Blacks never stop screaming.

          Because an absolutely insane amount of Blacks are being arrested and incarcerated, Blacks complain that “the system ain’t fair – it’s racist.”

          Nowadays, it is probably not even all that true, with some exceptions for very racist areas like the South. In fact, there are studies that show that Blacks are LESS likely to be arrested for crimes and LESS likely to be convicted for the crimes they commit.

          Blacks scream and yell that the system isn’t fair, is racist, bla bla. Even when Black juries convict Blacks, Black cops shoot Black criminals, somehow it all be racist and shit.

          Black juries begin freeing obviously guilty Black criminals, Blacks periodically engage in mass urban riots due to “police brutality”.

          This bullshit goes on forever with no end in sight, ever.

          The whole stupid cycle is caused by one thing: Blacks committing a ridiculous amount of crime in the first place! This is what causes the whole mess.”

        • Lets just say that it was the same between races, Jason

          “GREAT! How do we stop the savages from breeding OTHER than spaying/neutering them like any other animal that can’t control itself?
          It’s kinda obvious by now they’re not going to stop on their own, right?

          Or do you think they just need a few more DECADES and they’ll just turn around on their own?

          You’re arguably the best example of making excuses instead of making dead savages.

          This seems to be an exclusively white trait, savages have ZERO compunction killing us in their countries or in areas of ours they infest.”

          The fucking point that seems to by passed your head is what’s happening NOW and HERE in this country.

          HOW can it be done? WHAT can we do to make it happen that has given results?

          I’m just going to ignore about how you went from environmental to biological (incest and maternal age) to environment sporadically in the past, what solution could you make from your current environmental hypothesis.

          From the research I’ve been doing, I actually DID come up with something.
          From my research I’ve found that shorter variation of MAOA sequences are correlated with aggression. This is due to Serotonin not be broken down at a high activity due to the shorter sequence, thus increasing estradiol (E2), which has been shown in female monkeys to increase aggressive and dominating behavior. These shorter sequence variance is found at 5.5% in blacks and 0.1% amongst whites and ridiculously low among asians, thus continuing the B_W_A scale as always.

          This would make E2 the hormonal steroid that cause hyperagressiveness amongst blacks, not T. This makes sense since T lowers past the thirties but criminal behavior remains. Afram and African Americans were both found to have higher E2 but lower T due to age.

          This is essentially still Robert’s T theory at play, but with a different hormone that produces a similar affect.

          A POSSIBLE treatment procedure could be finding a method on how to remove old Serotonin or perhaps manipulation to genes for a better sequence or perhaps drugs similar to T drugs

          There’s my science and solution, now show yours.

        • EPGAH

          Well the question to me is do they even WANT to be good?

          Would Blacks accept LEGAL mind-alterant substances instead of the illegal ones they currently consume in order to be good citizens? Or do they want to continue being criminals, and just not get punished for it?

          Look at hucipher or mushawasha on this very blog for proof of the latter.
          https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/why-race-is-important/#comment-247245
          This is hucipher’s Magnum Opus, where he blames Black criminality on whites. He cites a “dysfunctional environment” — but claims it’s caused by whites, not Blacks’ own violence, laziness or criminality — ON A THREAD ABOUT THOSE THREE SUBJECTS! He brags that Blacks have a “disdain” for education”, but then claims a “robust education system” could somehow fix them…How? Cattleprods to keep them in?

          Or better yet, let them fail. Protect the ones who want to assimilate, from the ones who don’t! Whether physical walls, or my preference, shooting the bad ones.

          Mushawasha, on the other hand, makes excuses for the savages overthrowing our countries, and blames their current shit status on whites — as in the whites who no longer have control!

        • Jason Y

          Yeah we gotta big problem here and now, as ep-gah suggests. A problem the US created with free trade, a badly designed welfare system which rewards having one parent homes, trashy Hollywood and music industry etc…

          I don’t think there will be a solution to this problem, other than the “final solution”🙄 The best idea for good minded people would be to leave the chaos of the USA. It may seem weak, but the places is corrupt and evil on all sides.

        • The third to last paragraph should be “Aframs and African Blacks”

        • Jason Y

          Phil suggests medication could solve some problems with aggression. In practicality that would never work. The very people who might need to take it would poor and unable to afford it, even if they would take it at all. Also, the main problem is upbringing, mainly one parent homes, a pill might manage the problem, but the better idea is to get rid of the source.

          You know this stuff reminds me of the stupid attempts by doctors to manage ADD etc.. by giving boys pills which turn them into girls etc..

        • “Phil suggests medication could solve some problems with aggression. In practicality that would never work. The very people who might need to take it would poor and unable to afford it, even if they would take it at all.”

          Jason, first how do you know if they are poor or not? Poverty doesn’t perfectly match with Black criminality. Granted many are likely to be poor, but so are many of the sick in Africa who are receiving treatment. This would likely get funded because, well, it would likely get results for quite a great cause (I mean tax dollars are already being put for welfare so why not something that can benefit Blacks).

          Second,
          “Also, the main problem is upbringing, mainly one parent homes, a pill might manage the problem, but the better idea is to get rid of the source.”

          WTF is this supposed to suggest? A one parent home on an objective level would contribute mostly to availability of resources, social opportunity, and perhaps sadness at most as opposed to INNATE AGGRESSION which is what I’m aiming at.

          Your point would only be relevant if it were the cause of it, but it isn’t. Plus what figures pr studies do you have to support this. Until you actually do that I have no reason to believe you.

          http://racehist.blogspot.com/search?q=MAOA
          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3081406/
          http://conservative-headlines.com/2012/06/does-maoa-gene-make-black-people-more-violent/

          Your illogical resistent to the facts and your persistent evasive tactics are beyond any words. All I have to say as someone who actually fucking cares about the “problem” as opposed to you who likely doesn’t care abput what Black people do or what’s happening today or tomorrow for them.

          All you really care about is that the problem’s explanation is consistent with your PC beliefs.

  98. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    Keeping illegals out is more important for Australia than even for America, because ¾ of the land is not civilized, which is a mind-boggling waste of land. For comparison, think of trying to cram America’s whole population into the original 13 States.

    Australia’s land is mostly desert or semi-desert.

    • EPGAH

      So is Arizona, so is much of Nevada, so WAS most of California. (Vis. their current water “problems”. So what? Humans have proven repeatedly our ability to not only survive in the desert, but terraform it.

      Syria’s population has TRIPLED, and some idiots are trying to blame their terrorism on “Global Warming” instead of their own inability to keep it in their pants. Which do you think has more an impact on resource scarcity?

      • Jason Y

        It’s probably a good idea to leave the land alone. Everyone’s already bitching that the rain forests are being depleted and whatnot. Australia already has a huge section of it’s land off limits to developers. How could that be bad?

  99. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah (in response to topic about megafarms being stolen by greedy US companies

    How are they stealing land? You mean BUYING it, right? Offering more for the land than the savages can afford?

    If they STEAL land, that would leave a big hole, and we could toss all misbehaving Third Worlders into it, right?

    Whatever that is going on, independent farmers are driven off. They have a choice, rebel against the government, as in the Chiapas thing in Mexico, or go for easy cash in the US.

    Independent farmers are also driven off by cheap US imports, as was the case in the Haiti thing Clinton did in the 90s.

    • EPGAH

      Yes, they’d rather fight US for “easy cash” than fight their own country.
      That only means they see us as easier enemies than their fellow scum, and sometimes we won’t even fight back, right?

      America rebuilt Haiti 5X, every time, the savages raped our aid workers–not just the women. Why is that?
      And why did it never “take”, it always returned to the shit it is now?
      Could it be the reduced capacities mentioned at the top of this page?

      • Jason Y

        Savage isn’t always genetic or even from one parent homes. Seems like in Haiti the major religion is Voodoo. That could be a major culprit. Voodoo combined with illiteracy and other backward traits.

      • Jason Y

        quote by ep-gah

        Yes, they’d rather fight US for “easy cash” than fight their own country.
        That only means they see us as easier enemies than their fellow scum, and sometimes we won’t even fight back, right?

        You could have a point there. A lot of Americans aren’t going to be bothered fighting illegals cause they live in neighborhoods far from them. Unfortunately, only brutish repulsive white trash would join racist organizations actually fighting them.

        Anyhow, it’s still a sad story, cause the USA did cause the situation, but now the illegals will have to deal with the resentful poor whites who want to fight them.

    • EPGAH

      Like I said before, they’ll lay down their lives to rob US, but not fight to fix their OWN country.

    • EPGAH

      You know, if whites fought back more, maybe savages would stay in their own country and either fix it up or fuck it up the rest the way, (Guess which is more likely!) instead of invading ours?

      • maybe some will get the message, but I highly doubt the majority though.

        • Jason Y

          Phil is black. Why isn’t he insulted by the constant use of the word savage? Oh wait, I get it. He isn’t one of those “bandwagon” blacks who always follow the crowd.

      • Jason Y

        Using the word savage isn’t nice. Anyhow, Iv’e seen a lot of white savages, trashy people etc.., and some, not all, are drawn toward white nationalism. Take a look at your typical prison neo-nazi. Is he somebody you’d be scared of? Maybe you could just write him off ot your family and say, “Oh he’s in a rock band.”

  100. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    Black juries begin freeing obviously guilty Black criminals, Blacks periodically engage in mass urban riots due to “police brutality”.

    This bullshit goes on forever with no end in sight, ever.

    The whole stupid cycle is caused by one thing: Blacks committing a ridiculous amount of crime in the first place! This is what causes the whole mess.”

    The whole cycle is caused by one parent homes.

    • Jason Y

      I’d go so far to say that South Africa would be a fairly nice place, some problems but manageable, if not for one parent homes. I’d also say Martin Luther King’s dream would have mostly worked, if not for one parent homes.

      • EPGAH

        Now you’re switching from incest to one-parent homes.
        Fine, let’s play in this new gameboard.

        How do we fix that? Require a license to breed? Sterilize the retarded savages? Phil said force neurotopic drugs on them to make them peaceful.
        What is your SOLUTION?

        • Well, relatively yes aggressive. Impulsiveness due to IQ may leave them more prone to crime but a noticeable change in aggressiveness would be present.

          Huh, if you want a solution from this Joker you might as well go for the fucking lottery while your at it. All you’re going to get is a repeated “one parent home” reply or a snarky remark with a smiley face.

          Jason is either going to break at this point or cool off and wait for another opportunity to fill the comment section to the brim with half assed excuses.

        • Jason Y

          Well, relatively yes aggressive. Impulsiveness due to IQ may leave them more prone to crime but a noticeable change in aggressiveness would be present.

          Huh, if you want a solution from this Joker you might as well go for the fucking lottery while your at it. All you’re going to get is a repeated “one parent home” reply or a snarky remark with a smiley face.

          Jason is either going to break at this point or cool off and wait for another opportunity to fill the comment section to the brim with half assed excuses.

          Incest could play a major role in some cases, but in others, like the US and South Africa, one parent homes seem to play a major role. Anyhow, even an incest ridden family with two parents won’t produce disrespectful monsters.

        • Jason Y

          Incest could produce a population that’s academically inferior, but not one that would rob, rape, kill etc.. One parent homes, on the other hand, will produce a population full of punks who do all those things and more.

  101. Jason Y

    Savage could be a good thing. Women might like it. It would be positive like similar words like “beast”, “monster”. It depends on how you look at it. “Oh, he’s a savage in bed.”, “He’s a beast in bed.”

    That brings up another topic, penis envy. Could it be white nationalists and generally whites who are prejudiced all thru history fear the sexual superiority of some non-whites? The white women are threatened. Well, of course.

    • First of all, the length differences between Black and White penis lengths are minimal. Higher E2 through there lives and Higher T during earlier Puberty and up to early 30’s could have some edge but I’m unsure of actually performance.

      Also, you come off as a major jackass since you are clearly not considering the substantial differences in RAPE between the two!

      • Jason Y

        Being a jackass is fun!

      • Jason Y

        Maybe sexual self confidence is the word, regardless of size, and with blacks, also physical strength. That would be a threat to a lot of white men, since human nature is jealous.

        • Well I would correct you in terms of physical strength actually favoring White interms of their presentation in upper body strength, but actually Black physical attribute are at the legs which would be lower body.

          However, that would depend on pelvis ability. I couldn’t find anything with men at least, but studies show that it is SMART black men that are rated most attractive by white women, not Blacks in general.

  102. Jason Y

    Phil is clearly ignoring free trade, incest, one parent homes, as though those things aren’t major factors holding various groups down. I have no idea what Phil’s theory is on the matter. So what is the elephant in the room that I’m ignoring?

    • Jason Y

      Phil said something about giving blacks pills to make them less aggressive. Well, that’s a noble thought, but a waste of time when considering you should go after the source of the problem. It’s kind of like getting pain medication for a toothache, when you can just pull the tooth.

      • “Phil is clearly ignoring free trade, incest, one parent homes, as though those things aren’t major factors holding various groups down. I have no idea what Phil’s theory is on the matter. So what is the elephant in the room that I’m ignoring?”
        I would same the same to you and I would actually like some evidence of this happening.

        “Phil said something about giving blacks pills to make them less aggressive. Well, that’s a noble thought, but a waste of time when considering you should go after the source of the problem. It’s kind of like getting pain medication for a toothache, when you can just pull the tooth.”

        Then show me the source of the problem then. Lets work to together. Believe me I don’t WANT to believe that due to genetic reasons Blacks are held back but due to the coherence of the Nature v. Nurture shit I will follow whatever sensible path I can towards uplift.

        So Jason, show me stats, show me articles, tell me stories, contact someone who’s suffering, fucking anything to give me a reason to buy it.

        Until you’ve done so then STFU.
        https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2014/05/19/fulani-hausa-igbo-and-yoruba-mating-patterns/
        ALSO your theory with “incest”. Incest from marriage/breeding behavior that I could find would not suggest major incest patterns occurring in Africa aside from Muslims. Even then, the diversity of Ethnic groups that came here as slaves PLUS the Christianization would’ve likely eliminate chances of incest.

        Also Jason, with you’re theory of incest, in the grand scheme of things what difference does it make from the Climate theory? In the end it still leaves with a genetically different race in regards to lower intelligence.

        And as you said before, a white gene flow would be NEEDED to raise it’s IQ eugenically.

        I asked you this before with no response so for shits and giggles I’ll ask you again,are you suggesting that WN’s would accept, if not outright replace the climate one, this theory about them fucking there siblings that they need superior white genes to be better.

        On top of that, Incest creates tribal behavior as well. I’m not saying that it is like it is because it’s not logical to HBD, but because YOU have claimed that the only reason you disagree with the climate theory is because WN’s make Non-whites feel bad.

        But oh ho, YOUR brilliant theory will be much more accepting.

        • Jason Y

          Iv’e already given documentation from the Economist website regarding one parent homes in South Africa. There are also tons of websites which verify much of the Muslim world is inbred. I’m sure I could easily find websites verifying that much of the US ghetto is full of one parent homes. But I will try to do more research.

          I don’t claim to know all the answers, but you all don’t know everything either.

        • “Iv’e already given documentation from the Economist website regarding one parent homes in South Africa. There are also tons of websites which verify much of the Muslim world is inbred. I’m sure I could easily find websites verifying that much of the US ghetto is full of one parent homes. But I will try to do more research.

          I don’t claim to know all the answers, but you all don’t know everything either.”
          Okay, the MUSLIM world, what about the christain/animist part of Africa?

          And true, I don’t know all the answers but mine have been more coherent so far.

          But still, if you can provide sufficient evidence so be it.

  103. Jason Y

    Ep-gah lives in the days of John Wayne and covered wagons when the savages are yelling thier wierd war chants threatening to kill the Brady Bunch. Oh, my gosh! What will we do pa? Get dem guns son. Yipeee we’re gonna have some hoopin and hollerin tonight!

  104. Jason Y

    quote by ep-gah

    GASP Are you admitting Mexico’s upper class–maybe Mexico’s GOVERNMENT (Such as it is) is dumping the shit they don’t want to be bothered with on US? Didn’t you earlier claim they would never do such a thing?

    And yes, an illegal makes 5X more in America–as a criminal–than it would as a citizen in its own country. How is that “paid back for the trouble”? It has nothing to do with free trade. It’s just that that 5X is 1/3 the amount an American would make as Minimum Wage.
    And if it gets hurt, the illegal can fraud the ER. An American is traceable and its property could be taken so the HOSPITAL gets paid back for the trouble! That’s far more important than a foreign criminal, right?

    If Liberals care AT ALL about “income inequality” bullshit, they need to join ranks with Conservatives and shut the borders!

    It’s all payback for free trade. No, I don’t think we need open borders with Mexico, but if we are going to close them, we could at least end free trade, but that will never happen.

    You would just be sending Latinos back in nations where they would more than likely starve to death or live some hellish existance.

    • EPGAH

      YES! Let them be THEIR country’s deadweight, instead of ours. Their country is making money off Free Trade or they would not accept it!

      They can spend money on prisons and healthcare instead of dumping their shit on us.

      Their problems MUST NOT be our problems, or else strip their country of “independent” status, and we take care of them, but we control them!

    • EPGAH

      If America can make a Welfare system so our losers don’t die AND don’t become some other country’s problem, why can’t the Latinos? You keep claiming they’re our equals, why not act like it?

  105. Jason Y

    I really don’t like homophobic racist working class white trash that usually join neo-nazi organizations. I’m sure that’s no shock. I pretty much hate them as a race, almost as much as they hate Jews. They suck. Mainly because they don’t look at root causes of problems, and they’re punks.

    • Jason Y

      And they’re fucking ugly looking bastards. All bald headed or toothless like most hillbillies. They live in trailers and they;re just all around stupid and retarded. Ironic, since they’re so much into IQ research.

    • Jason Y

      Favorite bands of white trash who havent’ advanced into skinhead stuff:

      Nickleback or Godsmack or some other generic hillbilly shit.

  106. Jason Y

    Blacks are stupid? HA.. You could as easily make negative stereotypes as Iv’e done above about certain poor white people. You can make negative stereotypes about liberals and also preppie upper class people (calling them efemminate or gay or snobby etc..)

  107. Jason Y

    quote by Phil

    “Iv’e already given documentation from the Economist website regarding one parent homes in South Africa. There are also tons of websites which verify much of the Muslim world is inbred. I’m sure I could easily find websites verifying that much of the US ghetto is full of one parent homes. But I will try to do more research.

    I don’t claim to know all the answers, but you all don’t know everything either.”
    Okay, the MUSLIM world, what about the christain/animist part of Africa?

    And true, I don’t know all the answers but mine have been more coherent so far.

    But still, if you can provide sufficient evidence so be it.

    I don’t know if IQ even means anything anyways. Perhaps it’s exxagerated. Seems like the violent part, and of course violence would also go hand and hand with school failure etc.., comes from the breakdown of traditional culture. So with sub-sharan Africa, and note I don’t have any stats on this yet, it seems like that would be the case.

    So the breakdown of traditonal culture, one parent homes etc.. would be doing some damage south of the Sahara.

    • Jason Y

      How much IQ is actually needed to have a decent society? I mean most people are doing jobs that don’t require a lot of brainwork anyway. It’s not like everybody is supposed to be a doctor or engineer.

      I suppose a certain segment of the population would need a high IQ, in Africa etc.,, to advance the places to the level of Japan or something. But then again other factors contribute to poverty, like foreign oppression, free trade etc…

      • Japan? With eugenics, no time soon though the Igbo and Bamileke like I said before have shown signs of intellectual dominance in there countries as well as remarked by Europeans during colonialism.

        Robert estimate 80 to make things decent. Blacks during segregations achieved a decent amount actually in terms of society. Northern Blacks who’ve been so since slavery are at 90 and southerns are 80. Still, both had better lifestyles.

        Oh! You’re going to LOVE this! That “Breakdown of traditional culture” that lead to 1 parent homes……..it’s ALWAYS been the mother who invested in childcare the most because of the polygamous behavior! In African Polygamy, the father is hardly attentive. When environmental pressure call for Monogamy develop into being LESS aggressive and become more K selected with less extreme hormones. Look up Peter Frost and his research with Polygamy.

        Oh, BTW just stopping it won’t fix anything, like incest. In order to reverse the effects, Polygamous people need to be deselected from the genepool.

        With that said with IQ, there are possible monogamous subpopulations in Black Africa like one study gave for Senegal. If so, that population could likely have higher IQs.

        If they took over, things would likely improve but given much of Africa’s lack of infrastructure and prevalent pathological tendencies I doubt it with major foreign assistance.

        • In the first sentence, I meant “without eugenics”

        • Jason Y

          Robert estimate 80 to make things decent. Blacks during segregations achieved a decent amount actually in terms of society. Northern Blacks who’ve been so since slavery are at 90 and southerns are 80. Still, both had better lifestyles.

          Segregation didn’t cause the downfall of blacks in the US. It was a badly designed welfare system. This sounds like some black nationalist/racist attempt to justify segregation, much as the KKK would.

          It probably “seems like it did” cause it is true that under black teachers, the students are more likely to excell, cause under white teachers the students might be accused of “brown-nosing” or “acting white” etc.., mainly cause the white and black race are in conflict with each other in the US.

        • Jason Y

          I meant to say “Integration” didn’t cause the downfall of blacks in the US, a badly designed welfare system caused it.

        • Jason Y

          Ok polygamy is a bad thing. Note, Mormon missionaries need to be thrown out of Africa, like NOW!

        • Jason Y

          Never thought about polgymy. So anyhow, throwing out polygamy would reverse Africa’s trend making to move toward Japan. That would be bad news for white nationalists who thought the African IQ was fixed and could not be reversed for billions of years. What a let down to white nationalists.

          It definitely shows race realism.to be the “snake oil salesman” science that it really is.

        • “Never thought about polgymy. So anyhow, throwing out polygamy would reverse Africa’s trend making to move toward Japan. That would be bad news for white nationalists who thought the African IQ was fixed and could not be reversed for billions of years. What a let down to white nationalists.

          It definitely shows race realism.to be the “snake oil salesman” science that it really is.”

          Not just throwing out but INSTITUTING monogamy must be done. Polygamous behavior would just be expressed through stuff like prostitution so it would nothing “but a waste of time when considering you should go after the source of the problem.”

          Also with race realists observations, your new half asses assertion wouldn’t have been made.

  108. Jason Y

    quote by Phil

    “Never thought about polgymy. So anyhow, throwing out polygamy would reverse Africa’s trend making to move toward Japan. That would be bad news for white nationalists who thought the African IQ was fixed and could not be reversed for billions of years. What a let down to white nationalists.

    It definitely shows race realism.to be the “snake oil salesman” science that it really is.”

    Not just throwing out but INSTITUTING monogamy must be done. Polygamous behavior would just be expressed through stuff like prostitution so it would nothing “but a waste of time when considering you should go after the source of the problem.”

    Also with race realists observations, your new half asses assertion wouldn’t have been made.

    I don’t think they were half assed, cause genetics isn’t everything about IQ, the enviornment also plays a major role, and poor areas don’t have the resources to push education to the max.

  109. Mina

    If I lived in a dirty, disorganized, crime-infested place, I would personally have zero motivation to study, learn, and use my brain. It’s not the race, it’s the conditions. Why don’t u put ur white kids in a shitty neighborhood to see what big aspirations they would have! Also dirty messy spaces make our brains super confused! And I imagine people living in such places aren’t motivated to do much except kill, drink and have sex with women to alleviate their frustration.

    • EPGAH

      Who MADE it a “dirty, disorganized, crime-infested place”?
      Most of these places USED to be good places to live, UNTIL Blacks took them over.
      If dirty, messy spaces make your brain super confused, don’t mess them up in the first place!

      My parents used to live in DETROIT! Could you imagine a 9 year old female walking down a street in Detroit unarmed and unharmed?
      Crime was held in check by STRESS Units. Cops dressing up as civilians, getting attacked by thugs, and shooting them.
      Pop Quiz: Who voted for the Black Mayor who ABOLISHED the STRESS Units? What motivated them to do so in the first place? Were they tired of a clean, safe city?

      Your blame-the-environment spiel is not unique, but it’s already been proven false. Thugs make the environment, the environment doesn’t make them thugs.
      None of you who want to shift blame to the environment have answered:
      What MAKES them turn a clean, safe area, and turn it into a warzone slum?

      Detroit, Los Angeles, Chicago, Baltimore, New Orleans…Noone would MAKE a shitty city intentionally, right? Any attempt to clean them up, gets shouted down as “racist” doesn’t it? SO the cops, storeowners, and everyone else just kind of let nature take its course, let them wreck the environment completely–and the good people find someplace else to be!

      • BLACKS, JOBS, AND THE NEW EMPLOYEE:
        I found a way around the whole black intelligence problem that works very well. On the job (i was an assistant supervisor in manufacturing) when confronted w/ the typical Black American new employee, it works better if you have another more seasoned black person show them what to do. Why? Because I think it’s a communication thing, or the new employee may feel more comfy with another black person. Intelligence? I can’t tell by sight if they’re smart or not. They prove themselves smart or not over time. I then place them into the area that best fits their mind power.

    • TruthRevealed

      Don’t be angry Mina. I had an Asian woman advise me to move to South Africa “Because the blacks are so thick!” she exclaimed. Implying that I could easily make money from them as she had. This woman went from UK to South Africa with her family to get gold and jewels, to make money. In shock at her extremely low brain level of understanding of the suffering that the natural South African people had endured, all that came out of my mouth was, “It’s their country!”
      There is one question and one answer: Why do racist people keep on lying about the reason for the depression of the African people?
      It’s simple, racists are… born and bread liars.

  110. John Hamilton Brown

    I received my Anthro. BA from U Mass in 1974. This was an era that was pre-quota and academic standards were not lowered. It was an era when Negroes were taking over and destroying every urban Jew neighborhood. Plain and simple the Negro is deficient in his cognitive processes. In those days grant monies from private and public sources were plentiful and unchecked.

    I was a grants manager in Roxbury-Grove Hall. It was a joke. The Jewboys controlled the cash at the NAACP. It was stuff your pockets. I performed Binet IQ tests for a Harvard grant. The median IQ was 75 +/- 2 pts. Just right for a Jew-managed nanny state. I would go on to provide vetting services for private industry on Negro applicants who had graduated from Mass. Colleges. I did this work discreetly.

    The Jewboys slowly took over college administrations, lowered standards and took their cut of the nigga education cash (food stamps for academia). Its devolved into the disaster we have today – Jewboy inflation and statist populations of inferiors living off Whites. The Jews must be thrown out of the country. Inflation can be ended in one day, so can fiat money. Return to Bretton Woods monetary system. End food stamps, and prices will fall immediately.

    I listen to that stinking kike Bernie talk about free education and free services like Sweden. Lies. We had a strong gold-backed dollar – that’s why college, houses, cars were affordable. Most wage earners took home 90% of their paycheck in 1972. It’s frightening to me how brainwashed Americans are today. Elites have created a one-party state intent on blockbusting the USA.

    • Sam J.

      “…The Jews must be thrown out of the country…”

      You my Man are a genius!

      I must disagree with you on the gold standard. It doesn’t matter what money is made of as long it is accepted and the supply is controlled. Look at Scott Smiths de-debt and tax plan.

      http://www.scottsmith2016.com/

      His ideas are extremely good. For revenue instead of getting most from income taxes he would get revenue from settlements. Like every time you buy something or deposit a check in the bank, etc. The value of this is it massively raises the tax base so that the amount of each transaction is minuscule. I read, “For Good and Evil: The Impact of Taxes on the Course of Civilization” by Charles Adams a book on taxes and it talked a lot about raising the tax base in order to lower the percentage taken from each transaction and to spread out where revenues came from.

      Let’ look at the numbers he quotes.

      Payrolls total $15 trillion.
      Not much for filling a $4 trillion federal spending.

      The base for what he calls payments, (transactions), is 3,600 Trillion. Big difference. So using this big difference he would only take a tax rate of just 1/8 of a percent.

      He also would stop charging interest as the money is made and backed by the taxpayers. He would only give banks a service fee. (I don’t agree with this. I think a small interest paid to the Federal Gov. would be helpful providing the majority of it went to the treasury and bypassed the FED and banks.)

      He’s got some great ideas on lots of issues. He’ll never get any publicity from the media with his cut out the FED ideas but they’re worth thinking about. My biggest problem is just how, even with such small percentage of tax, he would keep corporations and the 1% from gaming it so they pay none.

      Another thing Smith wants to do is pay the debt off. He points out that all the debt pays interest so it gets bigger and bigger. There’s a not so evident twist to the debt. Here it is…as soon as the debt is issued it is financialized. It becomes money. It may be debt but in today’s world you can use this promise to pay to raise cash. Therefore the money supply is already inflated by the debt. Get it? Debt becomes cash through financialization.

      He says,”…Coupon stripping would not be inflationary
      because it would replace our existing supply of interest bearing money with non-interest-bearing money…”

      When he says coupon stripping he’s talking about the old time bonds. Here’s a picture.
      

      Each bond has coupons that when torn off at a certain date become money. He says we pay all the bonds off with non interest bearing CASH now instead of letting the debt inflate further. The bonds have become cash already so it’s not necessarily inflationary to turn them into cash.
      
      Here’s another quote,”…Ironically, we would have inflated the money supply less if we had issued new money to pay for the deficit each year rather than selling Treasury bonds. At least ordinary money does not accrue interest…”
      
      That being the case he says we should pay off all debt within five years.
      
      Here’s a link to his pay off the debt page.
      
      http://www.scottsmith2016.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Pay-Off-the-Debt.pdf
      
      I think he’s somewhat right about turning debt into cash not being inflationary but not 100%. Some debt is parked and if they were forced to accept cash I have no doubt they would buy assets for cash causing some inflation. His point over all I believe is sound. That printing cash is less damaging to the economy than continuously expanding debt. Yes there is a limit to this. The damage is less when you have instant inflation than the delayed case of delayed debt. When you have instant feedback from printing cash you also can see the damage and correct it faster. The debt is hidden as it takes some money out of circulation while NOT extinguishing it. When debt is turned to cash it’s influence can’t be stopped as easy.
      

      I don’t know if all his ideas would work but they’re progressive and pro capitalist at the same time. Truly great genius at making compromises without taking to much from either.

  111. n Bedford

    I am sorry the noggs I see are a hell of a lot stupider than what you describe. NEGROES by and large are illiterate even ones who have been so called educated.

  112. Tummi

    i am really saaaaad…..but i have to say that the writer of the article is right in general.
    i married 20 years with black egyptian guy, And i agree that it takes 10 times more efforts to learn for black people than for whites. Also i noticed that dementia disease is very common and shows at early ages between blacks than between whites…(((

  113. I think it depends on the environment. I grew up in white suburbia and got my I.Q tested officially and it stands at 130, but i must say my work ethic at least during the first few years of college was mediocre…. I think black people in general are just lazy as shit, but usually when a brother hits 30 the smart ones tend to develop more tolerable work ethic. 48 out of 50 seems like a exaggeration. In professional jobs its more like 25 out 50 from what ive seen which is still rather high.

  114. Gaston_D

    At the moment, it is true that Blacks are less intelligent than Whites as measured by IQ tests. There is a 13.2 point gap between Black adults and White adults – White IQ = 103, Black IQ = 89.8. It’s not yet proven that this is due to genes, and at some point, Blacks may be able to close the gap.

    Funny you😉

  115. TRASH

    European and Asian-Americans are blessed by the fact that minorities lack the IQ to wreak havoc outside specific geographic zones.

    Minorities rampaging in the outer suburbs or Canadian Shield woodsy towns in Northern Wisconsin? Survivalist tactics like that take intelligence-show me BRUTHAS OCCUPYING pine forests in prolonged sieges.

    They would not live out a single frigid week. All they can do is trash inner-city neighborhoods.

    ASIAN CARTELS skillfully import heroin through submarines…Minorities poisoning society on that level? RUBBISH They get busted selling dime bags on the street (Show me YAKUZA’S top heroin importer’s doing time in U.S. prisons on the scale of black gangs).

    Minorities CONTROL the food supply from distant farms to their local supermarket or Walgreens? NONSENSE. They’d starve if the trucks stopped driving into the city from farms,

    Korean-Americans or Japanese-Americans or even Indian-Americans could fight a prolonged siege but other minorities can only set fires to building condemned anyhow.

    If their IQ WERE 120 on average we would have a Balkans.

    Russian, Italian-American and Asian-American gangs in addition to Sons of Anarchy Bikers are a far greater threat in terms of corruption, mass drug distribution, guns circulation, stolen part rings, white collar crime than Blood or Crips.

  116. TRASH

    Muslim terrorists and Black Panthers SHIVERING IN A MINNESOTA woods en mass assaults on small European rural towns aka RED DAWN is a such a hilarious absurdity that one cannot help giggling.

    Whites most endangered are Jewish-Americans because they tend to live and work in urban areas around the centers of trade or industry.

    Finnish-Americans in Minnesota or Canadians in Idaho small towns…Oh, please Abdullah and Jerome are really going to wage a long-term occupation of the U.S. interior or even the deserts outside Los Angeles.

    Without government amenities they are hapless, not knowing what foliage to eat or how to hunt or grow food. They’d starve in a week.

    Low IQ is the great advantage, in fact. They will continue to become pregnant young, be incarcerated for six dollars worth of crack while Yimoshiga the Heroin Importer Yakuza pays his attorney to deport him back to Tokyo after a big heroin bust, get hopeless addicted to crack, etc.

    Mestizos are a different matter. They are capable of a substandard third-world occupation of the Southwest and that’s as far North as they can go. Too cold for the children of Moors and Pueblo Indians.

    Muslim-Americans are also city people. None of them would dare commit a terrorist attack in a small Tennessee town surrounded by woods or even enter small towns in the US where European numbers are greatest.

    Low IQ makes a lousy self-sufficient survivalist.
    .

  117. TRASH

    POWERS REPLY Jewish-Americans are at greater risk than other whites because they are urban-dwelling subculture (For whatever reason).

    As cities become more dangerous they are the whites at greatest risk of minority violence.

    They are stuck in Brooklyn, New Jersey, Boston, Chicago as minority crime and violence gets worse.

    Scandinavians on the Canadian border in North Dakota or Idaho will be fine if their are more riots in the East Coast inner-cities. If Los Angeles becomes Mexico City and Hollywood moves to Canada Norwegian-American Mormon in Utah are not at much risk.

    So it is they who suffer along with other minorities.

    Not too much to worry about.

    • Jason Y

      Actually a lot of Asians love Canada, not cause of W. Bush and his war, but cause they’re racist against NAMS, that combined with resentment of interference of the US in Asia.

  118. TRASH

    Asians have been immigrating to Canada since the Inuit. Its the gateway to North American and Vancouver is easier to immigrate to than the U.S.

    Bush is sort of old news. I’m not sure Chinese or Koreans really ever cared a whit about the Middle East. They’d buy petroleum from anyone who took their money and business to them had no political meaning.

    China became the major purchaser of Iraq oil. The U.S. really got nothing out of that conflict at all except a crisis in Syria.

    None of this affects Northeast Asia.

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