Why Do People Support Illegal Immigration?

In the comments section, Bay Area Guy lays out some typical arguments for why people support illegals. I feel he is wrong in some of his arguments:

Leftists want illegal immigrants for future votes, and also in order to weaken whites and lend further legitimacy to their anti-racist arguments (ie. I frequently hear Tim Wise type anti-racists say, “as the U.S becomes more ‘of color’ we’ll need to make serious changes”).After all, the more non-white the U.S becomes, the more you have to enact policies that help them, right?

Neocons and conservatives want illegals for cheap labor.

The key is to go after employers and leftist elites who tolerate this crap.

I have a hard time with this argument, BAG. It’s typical to say that the Left wants all these illegals in order to weaken US Whites. Is there any evidence for this? I don’t see any.

Keep in mind that I was on the Left for many years. I have met and talked to Leftist Presidential candidates on the phone and in person. I am a member of the Communist Party USA and I have spoken to top ranking members. I have met with local Communists in a local Commie group. Suffice to say I have been around the Left for 20 years. I’ve also known a lot of Jews, including a Jewish media multimillionaire. Never once have I heard a Leftist or Jew say that we need to import all of these illegals in order to weaken US Whites.

Why do people support the illegals? Mostly they are ideologues who believe in Open Borders, though they often do not say so. They believe in “the right to migrate.”

For the Hispanics, it’s obvious. Their relatives and friends are a bunch of wetbacks, and if not, they are loyal to La Raza.

I doubt if many average working class Hispanics support illegals so they can flood into the US take over whole parts of it for the Hispanics. Your average Hispanic simply does not conceive things in those terms. The only people who talk like that are upper middle class bourgeois Hispanics with a university education. Some Latino politicians talk like this too, but they just want to get re-elected. Your average Chicano cares zero about Aztlan, and if you polled them, they probably don’t even know what Aztlan is.

Your average Chicano is not an idiot, and Mexico and the rest of Latin America is full of White people. So “Whites” can easily be “Latinos.” All we have to do is speak Spanish and adopt Latino culture. Since your average Hispanic comes from a a region with over 100 million Whites, they don’t see Whites per se as the enemy. Gringos, maybe. Whites? No way. They don’t think in racial terms since they themselves are not a race.

Around here, you will see Chicanos ranging all the way from full White through myriad shades of mestizo all the way to pure Indian. They all hang out with each other, and no one thinks anything of it. If I spoke Spanish fluently, I could join them and be one of the “White Chicanos.”

Furthermore, around here a lot of Chicanos have figured out that when towns go 95+% Hispanic, they’re effectively ruined. We have two towns here like that here – Parlier and Mendota. In both of them, you may as well be living in Mexico.

They suck so bad in many ways that many Hispanics are starting to leave since there “are not enough Whites left to keep the place civilized,” more or less in their own words. So the Hispanics need Whites around, at least a few of us. When the Whites all leave, Mexico creeps in. And that’s what the Hispanics came here to escape from.

Now! Once the illegals are here, it is another story. Does the Democratic Party want to legalize them to get future voters? Maybe. But the last bill that hit Congress would not have legalized them for 18 years. That’s a long time to wait for voters.

More probably, the Dems support amnesty out of liberal ideology and in an effort to get Hispanic votes. If you come out against illegals, you screw yourself out of the Hispanic vote. If you want their votes, you go pro-illegal, ideology be damned. As the Hispanic vote increases, terrifyingly, mass amnesties look like more and more of a sure thing.

Another reason liberals support illegals is due to sympathy. Many liberals think it is cruel especially to break up the families of the illegals. This take on the issue especially effects females. Many others think there is no way to deal with the issue but via amnesty. Others (usually Jews) think anti-illegal = White racism. They don’t like White racism, so they go pro-illegal.

If you are on the Liberal-Left, you must support the illegals. If you don’t, you are slammed, shamed, and shunned in some pretty cruel ways. You get called racist, fascist, Nazi, KKK, reactionary, pig, hater, bigot, all sorts of stuff.

Liberal-Left types are sensitive people, and their whole worldview is made up in part by not being any of those things above. To get called names like the above is really jarring and painful for leftwingers, and I suspect many Lib-Lefties are simply bullied into supporting illegals. There are a number of Leftists who refuse to speak with me anymore in part due to my heresies on these matters. It is still painful for me to think of how they called me racist, fascist, Nazi, etc. and how they refuse to speak to me anymore.

Obviously, not just neocons and conservatives but the entire US business sector, supports the illegals for cheap labor.

In addition, here in California, many Whites with money support illegals. We joke that as soon as you buy a house, you start supporting illegals. All of a sudden you have all this yardwork to be done, and many White homeowners around here want to hire cheap illegal alien labor to work around their homes. On the other hand, many lower class, poor and working class Whites totally despise illegals since they have destroyed the low end job market in the state.

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12 responses to “Why Do People Support Illegal Immigration?

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  3. Paul Grenville

    There’s a case for admitting illegals if they are fleeing persecution, or are victims of sex trafficking. But that’s a tiny tiny minority. Other illegals should be sent back.

    As part of the EU in the UK we face the reality of Open Borders with respect to 27 countries. In practice that means we – as on of the three richest, and almost the most overcrowded country in the EU (only Holland is more so) have received nearly 1 million Poles and many other Eastern European nationalities from the collapsed economies of the ex-Communist bloc. The 2011 Census will be very revealing, although one and a half million people will evade being counted. I’m not in favour of open borders when there’s such pressure on housing and health care already.

    There has been some East European immigrant related crime, but in general the immigrants have been hardworking and, because we have a minimum wage in place, there has been no downward pressure on wages. Illegals do get into the country – particularly Afghans fleeing our imperialist war – and the Chinese who end up grossly exploited in Norfolk and Lincolnshire land labour gangs.

  4. durp

    of course its racism

    but its the “right” kind of racism. You just dont see this dislike to asians and indians.

    Id welcome them. But hispanics, get out, or sterilize your stupid.

  5. erranter

    You forgot the main reason they parade for why they support illegal immigrants: “we’re a nation of immigrants”.

    Sure, but never to such an extent (all at once) never so many illegally and nearly all came from Europe wanting to assimilate.

    I guess they just don’t think about limits: you can only be a nation of immigrants for so long until you run out land, air and resources. Apparently sacrificing all that is worth holding to that principle.

  6. Bay Area Guy

    Never once have I heard a Leftist or Jew say that we need to import all of these illegals in order to weaken US Whites.

    Well, they’re not going to bluntly say it.

    But either way, regardless of their intentions, they are weakening whites.

    Others (usually Jews) think anti-illegal = White racism. They don’t like White racism, so they go pro-illegal.

    Well that’s the far left’s game, isn’t it? Support policies that are detrimental to whites, and if whites support them, then call them racist, xenophobic, etc.

    Liberal-Left types are sensitive people, and their whole worldview is made up in part by not being any of those things above. To get called names like the above is really jarring and painful for leftwingers, and I suspect many Lib-Lefties are simply bullied into supporting illegals. There are a number of Leftists who refuse to speak with me anymore in part due to my heresies on these matters. It is still painful for me to think of how they called me racist, fascist, Nazi, etc. and how they refuse to speak to me anymore.

    Interesting.

    I’ve concluded that either these pro-illegal leftist types want to foster the demise of whites, or they’re simply too wimpy, pathetic, and lack the courage of their convictions.

    Either way, they have issues.

    And either way, illegal immigration is bullshit.

    I could care less about their sob stories regarding broken up families and restrictive laws. Every country has the right to determine who can or cannot enter, and I cannot think of any country (particularly a non-western country) that would tolerate this madness.

    Why should we be an exception?

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  8. Jason

    Erranter,
    “nearly all came from Europe wanting to assimilate.”
    Not true…The Europeans did not want to assimilate; They wanted to get rich or escape persecution and once they got here and found out how nice it was they wanted to take over, and they did. Blacks were brought from Africa and Chinese were brought to work here (more or less as slaves). Now the migrant latinos are exploited. As everyone knows, The Native Americans (north and south) of the US were decimated by the European “Illegal” immigrants.

    “you can only be a nation of immigrants for so long until you run out land, air and resources.”
    So overpopulation is an immigration problem? Are you serious?

    One reason one might advocate immigration is THE U.S. CONSTITUTION which as most people know says:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    Seems to me that immigrants are pursuing life, liberty, and happiness. Here, just like our founding fathers did.

    Why not let ém stay unless they commit crimes…I personally don´t consider poorly paid unskilled labour a crime. But that´s just me.

    I also believe that free quality healthcare and education should be provided (for everyone) because it seems to make sense to have a healthy educated global community.

    This academic study makes some interesting points:
    http://www3.niu.edu/~td0raf1/history468/apr1608.htm

    Anyway, I realize this topic is old but the discussion of it is sadly still as relevant as it ever was.

  9. michael

    The rich men rule the world and so the united states the rich men dont care if born here or if you just cross the border one hour ago if we the poor are 60% and they are 40% all the care about is how they gonna get wealthier out of us so people stop that nonsense we all are for the same cause wheter you white black yellow illegal aliens born Americans

  10. michael

    So these illegals they coming over for one reason jobs period and who create the jobs the rich men create jobs so they are the one who have the answer to all these but they dont have time for that because they are too busy with business travel and the stockmarket so if you dont want them to.pay these illegals 5$an hour they will move where they can pay them 8$ day end of history so us poor people need to stop fifting each other over some nonsense

  11. michael

    Ok people, lets be realistic about this whole illegals immigration issue let do the math let say you send all of the 13 millions back home the rich men are not gonna pay an American 30$ an hour to pick their crops so they will follow these illegal immigrants home with their companies where they will pay them 8$ a day and us overhere will have to pay 10$ for a pound of tomatoes people please dont make thing worst bthan they already are because at the

  12. Shawn

    “Why Do People Support Illegal Immigration?”

    Because the Democrat Party NEEDS votes, which is also why they’re focusing on supporting gay marriage.

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