America As a Jewish Country

IC: “If you are so smart, why aren’t you rich?”

Of all of the retarded sayings of the Moronican retards, that is one of the stupidest of all.

It also shows that the only true religion of Americans is money. Americans worship money. Forget all that Christianity crap. Americans worship money far more than they worship God or Jesus.

That’s not a good thing to say about someone. To say about a country that the one thing they value above all other things is money is not a compliment. It’s an insult. You are saying that the people of that country are lousy people. Because if you worship money above all other things, really you are a lousy human being. You can put 2 and 2 together and figure out my general opinion of my fellow Americans and this asinine, poisonous culture of theirs.

Notice I say theirs, not ours or mine. I don’t really consider myself an American, at least not culturally. I’m an alien in this country too not only among men but within the nation’s body politic and common culture  itself. I’ve felt like I was living in a foreign country my whole life.

I think the commenter did not understand the article. Perhaps they should go back and read it again. His comments reflect the exact opposite of what this article stated.

The point of the post that the commenter is commenting on is that there is a weak relationship between money and brains. We are talking about two different things: money and brains. Just because you have a lot of one doesn’t mean you have a lot of the other. This is another stupid, cheap and tawdry belief of the Americans. That the more money you have, the more intelligent you are. And the less money you have, the more of an idiot you are. By having this value, Americans show that they have no understanding of human intelligence at all. Nor do they understand money and how it is acquired in the first place. So Americans worship money, but they don’t even understand how it is acquired. Isn’t that stupid?

It’s clear that at the high IQ range, functionality and adaptability fall way off. At some point, with every IQ point you go up, you become poorer, more psychologically disordered and less functional.This piece discusses how it is normal for many IQ 160+ men to have more or less failed at American life. Many are working at very low level jobs. They are often low income or in poverty. Psychologically, they have serious problems. They are single, live alone in lonely lives and seldom if ever date. If this is the known, scientific reality of very high IQ people, isn’t it quite retarded of Americans to equate money with intelligence.

So brains is one thing, and money is another. Quit equating the two. They do not have much to do with each other, and at some point, they have an inverse relationship. You don’t need brains to get money. It’s just another idiot belief of foolish Americans and their junk culture.

In summary, this is not a Christian country in any way, shape or form. It’s more of a Jewish country than a Christian country by orders of magnitude. No Christian country would worship money above all other values. That is something a Jewish country would do. So in that sense, America is actually a Jewish country full of 330 million Jews. Call them Judaized Gentiles, call them Jews, call them whatever you want. The essence of things is what is important, not the object itself or it’s surface appearance. Heidegger makes this quite clear.

This is also why we will never have anti-Jewish pogroms here. So even American Nazis would not be able to carry out a pogrom. They would get all set to go kill some Jews and then they would stop themselves, look in the mirror that and realize that if they are to kill Jews, they need to start with themselves. Even American Nazis and antisemites are very Jewish, much to their shame. It’s just one more thing that discredit obsessive and homicidal antisemites. They’re actually the very thing that they hate so much! 

Money is the jealous God of the Americans. The only true religion of the Americans is the religion of Hucksterism!

We are all Jews now.

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There Are More Male Geniuses, But There Are Also More Male Retards

Women are basically just as smart as men, but there are more men at the extremes of both retardation and genius. We’ve got a wider spread. Our intelligence manspreads just like our bodies. Blame it on that damned Y chromosome.

Men traditionally had IQ’s that averaged ~4 points higher than women, but that’s not a large spread. You won’t even notice it much.

But maybe that was what was behind the dingbat woman, airhead blonde and dumb bitch stereotypes. Yes ladies, we do call you dumb bitches when the occasional misogynistic wave hits us. We also call you something else. The first word is lame and the second word begins with a c. Putting on your thinking caps, ladies. You can figure it out. DB’s and LC’s. That’s what we call you when there are none of you around and we feel disgusted with your antics. All men feel this way. Even men who love women do. They just experience a lot less misogyny than your average man. The sexes are very different, so different that the variations drive each sex nuts.

Men also tend to think women are idiots. It’s a common complaint and once again, nearly all men feel this way. I told that to a female friend and nearly ducked after said it, anticipating a return cannon shot of quotidian feminist outrage. Instead she shrugged her shoulders and laughed, “Oh that’s nothing,” she said. “Women think men are idiots too.” Well, there you have it. It looks like we’re even then. Each sex thinks the opposite sex is moronic. Like most things, it all equals out in the end.

But as the French say, “Viva la differance!” Sure women are nutty, but as one friend put it to me, “Would  you rather have a world where all the women acted like men?” That would clearly be disastrous. I wouldn’t want to live in a world like that. The best alternative is to keep women exactly as they are and embrace them warts and all. It’s called radical acceptance and it works for lots of things. Just get it into your head that this is just how women are, and they probably can’t help it anyway, and get to the point where you just accept that and are OK with it and it doesn’t bother you anymore.

At any rate, I have met no shortage of smart and even very smart women in my life. They’re everywhere, so it’s not real hard to find them.  I always figured men and women had the same scores because that is how it always seemed.

Oddly, tests in the past few years have shown that women are now completely matching men in intelligence. Their IQ’s are now statistically exactly the same as ours. Actually, they are beating us by .2 points, but that’s a trivial distance that won’t even be noticeable. What happened is that modern women are exposed to so much technology and weird gadgetry everywhere they look that they are actually getting smarter. Yes, women now are smarter in visuospatial tasks than previous generations.

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The Strange Story of Very High IQ People (IQ’s of 160+)

The dirty truth is that once IQ gets above 140 (genius level) and certainly 145, people seem to get progressively weirder with each point climb on the brain scale.

A recent study focused on so called very high IQ people. The cutoff was 160, so they were looking at people with IQ’s of 160 and above. As you would expect, most of these 160+ IQ types were men.

Many of these men were nearly dysfunctional, living alone, never dating or marrying and rarely if ever having sex, painfully introverted to the point of crippling social phobia and just generally seem pathologically quiet and rather weird. Many of them were working at low paying jobs and living at low incomes or even living in poverty.  You can have too much of anything believe it or not, and I would imagine that at levels like that, you are just too damn smart for your own good.

Sadly, many pf these men had become misanthropes. It almost seemed to go with the territory. A feeling that they were surrounded by retards or borderline retards was very common, and it was not a pleasant feeling. Most disliked their condition and said they wished they were much less intelligent than they were so they could function and be at home with ordinary people. There’s nothing fun about feeling like a freak, even if the thing you are an outlier in is a talent rather than a handicap.

Once IQ goes over 160, many people simply have got too much brains, too many cells, way too many connections. They are actually too smart. They’re going 120 while everyone else is going 35. You do that enough and of course you crash. These people are so gifted that you’re not even adaptive anymore. Their record-breaking IQ is crippling them instead of helping them. It’s a rather sad picture.

In the last century, a number of very high IQ men were found in Europe working at very menial jobs into late age. They were garbagemen, janitors, factory workers, security guards, lumberjacks, postal workers, low level clerks, truck drivers, or bar bouncers. Many had extremely boring jobs that would drive anyone else mad from the inactivity. Commonly they said that they liked the menial jobs because it gave them time to think. They wanted to run Olympic marathons in their heads all day long, and the best way to do that was to get a very menial job.

These are people to whom thinking and intellectual exercise is nearly a sensual activity (something you experience with and feel in your body) like sex, parties, dinner parties, sports, scuba diving, hiking, bike riding, skiing, hobbies, etc. Dumping trash and running around in their heads all day is the equivalent of a Caribbean cruise for regular people. They can go anywhere they want in the whole world, and they never have to leave their own heads. Not to mention the airfare savings.

 

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A Myth: Your Childhood IQ Score Is Inaccurate and You Need to Retake the Test As an Adult

I once had a very high IQ commenter, a more or less autist neckbeard HBD’er who seemed like he couldn’t get laid with God’s help like most such types. But have no fear. He was going to conquer the world with that towering thundercloud of an IQ score of his. I’m afraid he is in for a very rude awakening.

We were discussing IQ’s in the comments when somehow we got invaded by neckbearded HBD autists. The conversation turned awkward and uncomfortable real fast like it always does with these social retards.

We are telling each other our IQ scores and I volunteered mine, recorded at age 14. I’m not taking any more tests. I got my fancy gold-plated score and I ain’t taking any more tests, thank you very much. I don’t need to keep going back and keep checking to see if my brain’s still there. Plus I am terrified I won’t reach my old score, and I’m vain as Hell. We conceited folks don’t take too kindly to assaults on our egos. They’re quite painful actually, almost physically painful.

This autist got all huffy and aggressive like they always do and insisted that my childhood score was completely worthless because child brains and adult brains are too different species that can’t mate or something. Or nothing. Or whatever. Or this or that. Or bla bla bla. I had to go back and take the IQ test again in adulthood to prove my head hadn’t fallen off at some point on the boy to man journey.

His argument was about as retarded as his socialization. I scoffed at him and told him that research showed he was wrong. He dug in his heels, got his back up, and pretty soon we had an argument. He kept repeating his notion over and over. He just would not let go of it. He was like a dog with a bone. That’s socially retarded, but it’s typical for these types once again.

I believe your IQ is pretty much fixed and research indicates that this is the case. You can raise it quite a bit in adolescence or early adulthood around college years. I believe you can raise it maybe 15 points. And perhaps you could drop your IQ by 15 points if you simply choose to turn your brain into a beer-addled couch potato.

Yet past age 23 or so, IQ is generally remarkably stable. In fact, statistically it is quite stable at age 7. If your childhood score is very high, you can usually take it to the bank. I don’t buy the idea that a childhood score is worthless and you have to go take the test again as a grownup to find out your “true adult IQ.” It’s asinine.

I got a 147 score at age 14, which means I am in the top .1%. If I am in a stadium with 1,000 random Americans, I’m smarter than everyone in the whole damn place. And it often feels something like that, honestly. It doesn’t even feel good. Instead it feels sort of lonely. It’s lonely at the top, like with a lot of things apparently.

You would have to put another 1,000 people in the stadium. Now you have 2,000 people eating peanuts and hot dogs and watching the game. And then you would have one person who is smarter than I am. It might be nice if I could talk to them, but with my luck, I’d probably be surrounded by Neandertals as usual. I’d try not to think they were lugheads and would try to be as nice to them as possible. I might even make conversation with them on the off-chance that they might say something interesting and not par for the regular human course.

Just to show you what a tool that guy was, I retook the test in a clinical psychologist’s office at age 29.

My mother worked for a clinical psychologist and one day she asked me if I wanted to take an IQ test because he would give it to me for fre where it usually is ~$200. The test was not all that hard but it was a bit challenging. Mostly it was just fun. It seemed to consist mostly of little puzzles, often weird figures and such and you had to figure out the pattern and predict the next one in the sequence. It was easier than I thought it would be, and I bombed out of high school math.

I never heard my score and he didn’t give it to my Mom. He just said “over 140.” My Mom said he was walking around the office for a while shaking his head like he couldn’t believe the score. He kept saying, “Very high, very high.” He told her he had been giving these tests for 30 years, and in all that time, they were only ~10-15 people who scored as high as I did.

I received basically the same score as I got at age 14, and that was after the drugs had set in.

I’d been carpet-bombing my brain with all sorts of substance ordinances since age 16. But by that time at age 29, I had cut back. I only smoked pot maybe three times a month. I drank a couple six packs every weekend and maybe 2–3 beers a night during the week. I rarely did coke and that year I took my last LSD and psilocybin trips. I’ve only done meth maybe three times. I hadn’t taken pills in years. The rare PCP trips were a thing of the past, thank God.

I’ve been too scared to do psychedelics since, though I have taken them ~40 times with almost nothing in the way of problems. But then I often carefully prepared for trips and waited until I thought I was in a perfectly clear and centered place in my head before I tripped, especially on acid. I once kept a hit of acid in my fridge for 1 1/2 years because I didn’t think my head was OK enough for it. Finally after 18 months, I felt my head was sane enough to trip, and so I did.

But by age 29, my partying days were through. The Endless Party is the Greatest Show on Earth, until one day way you’re dead and it’s all over way too soon. You’ve got to quit or cut back sometime.

At age 29, my score was pretty much the same as it had been at age 14, with my pristine and virgin brain tissue still intact and not yet violated by a single drink or hit off a joint. The score was even somehow immune for the dope artillery barrage I had been firing at it for years.

I don’t really no what to say about this but maybe heavy pot and psychedelic use doesn’t have any permanent effects.

I can’t speak for other drugs because I never did enough of them. I did cocaine recreationally for 13 years, but I never got hooked on the stuff and my lifetime dose of the drug is probably less than an ounce. I took meth three times, enough to decide it was the most evil drug on Earth. I learned my lesson with PCP. They stuff even tasted like poison. It had this creepy metallic taste to it like it was actually chemically toxic. It wasn’t even fun to smoke like pot or hash. It felt like you were dunking your head in a pot of weird smelling chemical stew in some chemist lab.

Got a fancy childhood IQ score? Frame it and put it on the wall of your mind and don’t bother with another test.

 

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A Modern Myth: The “Fried Brains” Lie

I was a fairly heavy drug user, mostly pot and some psychedelics, for 15 years or so as a teenage boy and young man. But when I took an IQ test at age 29, I got the same score as when I was 14. You would think the equivalent of spraying Agent Orange in my brain for a decade would have fried a few cells here and there, but I guess not. I generally felt as smart as ever.

There were times I thought I was permafried. I took crack and had an empty head for three days. I did speed and vaporized by skull for a week. I drank 10 beers and did lots of coke one New Years and had the brain of a grazing animal for 10 days. I took acid and had memory issues for a month.

Every time I thought I had finally cooked the goose for good, the drug effects would wear off and my brain would wake up again, buzzing along fast as ever. I don’t think there are any permafried people. It’s an urban legend. Every so-called drug casualty I met was currently using. Even heavy Ecstasy use usually recovers in ~eight years. The brain is an adaptive organ. It’s as if it thinks for itself. Even if there are damaged cells or connections, the brain just cuts new passageways around and tries to circumvent the damage, like building a temporary dirt road around a landslided  highway.

My position is that there are no such thing as drug casualties, acid casualties, fried brains, permafried people or any of that. All of the casualty cases were currently using and they often using very heavily. Many of the times they were said to be permafried, they were just tripping on PCP or something, passed out with a beer in their hand and lying on the patio with pissed pants. What people called permafried were just the results of very heavy current use and often acute intoxication.

Some very  heavy users and drinkers are now in their 50’s and are affected. In every case I have seen, they are completely normal psychologically, but they do have some memory problems. I’ve never seen one of the legendary fried brains cases that haven’t used in forever but are still permanently out to lunch psychologically.

This is actually good news. Even if you are a heavy user, you will recover and  probably recover fully at least psychologically when you quit. Like with smoking, you are usually better off if you quit.

I’ve known many people who had taken LSD 100 or more times. 300 times was a pretty common number. All were psychologically healthy or even robustly or super-healthy. There’s probably a reason for that. The more disordered you are psychologically, the more likely it is that your trips are going to be quite unpleasant or even nightmarish. It takes a very cool and sane head to take acid trips in the triple numbers without having much issues. Some people simply “don’t have the head for it” and those who are robustly healthy in their heads are most able to weather heavy acid use.

Only one of these people was weird, and everyone brings him up every time I talk about acid. He’s supposedly a legendary acid casualty. He isn’t. He’s just weird. He’s got my exact IQ score (I saw his chart at the same time the counselor conspiratorially showed me mine and the problem with genius level IQ’s is that at and above that level, people start to get weird. And they get weirder and weirder at IQ rises higher and higher. At lot of people with IQ’s over 150 are  pretty damn weird.

Anyway it’s true. The guys is weird as fuck-all. But there’s harmless weird and scary weird and he’s just the harmless weird type. The two types are pretty simple to distinguish if you just spend a bit of time around them.

The problem with the acid casualty argument with this guy is that I knew him when he was 12 years old in seventh grade. And believe it or not, he was orders of magnitude weirder then and that was before he had sampled a single substance. If you want to play the cause and effect game, you have to conclude that all that acid made him much less weird. That’s a strange thing to conclude, but the Drug War crowd love to play cause and effect, so we can show them that it works both ways.

Personally I think the guy was just weird. He’s just one of those totally out to lunch genius types. all utterly harmless, you see wandering around university campuses with those permanently distracted weird blank stares that make you think they are insane until you talk to them and you realize you are talking to a remarkably sane person.

Like most weird, bizarre genius types, he improved a lot of his weird behaviors in adolescence but he still had way too many funny tics and verbal and gestural weirdisms. Once you talk to him, you realize he is quite sane. If you hang around with him, his behavior is remarkably normal. He’s rather inhibited, conservative, passive and in the background, but I would say your typical quasi-borderline modern woman is way flakier than he is. He never has meltdowns or even depressions or anxiety attacks. He’s not irritable at all. His moods are so calm he’s almost boring in that way.

Sometimes it’s even boring and frustrating to be around him and I even long for one of my typical Rollercoaster Quasi-Borderline Girlfriends like I usually end up with. Wild rides are scary, but they’re also damn fun. These psychobitches and crazy women drive me batty when I am with them, and then I miss them when their gone. What can I say?  The human condition is often paradoxical.

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Your Brain Is a Muscle, So Exercise It

Tracy: Well, my IQ is supposedly 129, and I don’t feel smart. As a matter of fact I feel quite the opposite.

Hmm. I do not know what to say to this woman. Does she realize that she is in the top 3% of the population?! Is she aware that she’s smart enough to get a PhD, MD or law degree if she applies herself sufficiently?

That means she is smarter than 97% of the people around her. Isn’t that incredible? She ought to be proud. We should be proud of any talents we have whether inborn or developed. There’s nothing wrong with winning the race for most laudable or lucrative talents.

If I was to tell this woman anything, I would say exercise your brain. The brain is a muscle. It works better the more you exercise it. It’s like anything else that way.

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Intellectual Alienation in a 115 IQ Person

tephra189: When you say more intelligent than 84% of the population, is that in a global sense or just when compared to the population of the USA?

I have an IQ of 115 and I am in love with this blog post. I have reread this multiple times over the past couple of days. As a 20 year old male, I identify with everything written here. As a quick example, I find it extremely difficult if not impossible to make friends my age because what they say is too obvious, there tends to be no new ideas that stimulate my brain, and I get bored of interacting with them. Thank you, thank you, thank you, for writing this.

Better than 84% of the US. They are smarter than 90% of the world population because the average US IQ is 100, and the average human IQ is 89.

I am glad you love the post. I may even want to talk to you by email or even in this comment section if you like.

You have a 115 IQ and you are totally alienated in this way. Now imagine your IQ was 32 points higher than that. My IQ is two actual standard deviations above the poster’s. However, I still think you would be an interesting person for me to talk to you because you could probably understand most of what I was talking about, although a lot of what I said might be new information to you.

Also people in your range have occasional strokes of sheer genius or brilliance where they say the perfect thing. How many times have you ever heard someone make one small statement, often a sentence or maybe two, that so  perfectly sums up some area of life that you want to copyright it? 115 IQ  can do that, and not just once either. Fairly regularly. They have sort of “got it figured out.” Now granted most 110 or even 90 IQ people often think they’ve got it all figured out too.

I won’t deny that, but I think the 115 IQ and I have got it figured out better than these people have. Not that it makes us any better to function in life. There’s no real advantage to understanding the basic workings of human beings better than the ordinary person. And it is often a disadvantage because you start talking about the basic workings of human beings a lot, and most people just get mad and shut you down for “generalizing.”

Which is what we are doing. Trust me, if you want to understand the basic workings  of human beings, you need to do a huge amount of generalizing. The more the better, to a point. At some point, you are overgeneralizing and not allowing for exceptions and now you may be rewarded with the title of “narrow-minded.” But I’d rather talk to a narrow-minded person who thinks they’ve got it down than someone who dismisses any truth about humans as a “generalization.”

The  higher your IQ, the more you generalize. People with very high IQ’s are generalizing continuously. We are always looking for patterns. And we get bored very easily.

Some 115 IQ women are excellent students of human nature, almost like little psychologists.

And comparing myself to your alienation, let’s say that I often feel like a Goddamned alien from another planet! I literally feel like a visitor from a foreign planet or like I am visiting an alien world a lot of the time.

I meet people all the time who seem almost borderline retarded to me, but I have a feeling that their IQ’s might be ~100. They are often high school graduates with just a bit of college. I don’t know what their IQ’s are because it’s so hard to figure out people’s IQ, and you never want to ask them unless you think they are pretty damn smart. It is embarrassing for me to even have the thought  that they seem almost retarded so I try to banish the thought from my mind because it almost seems like a thought crime. But it keeps coming back. I hate spelling and gross punctuation grammar mistakes. They drive me up the wall.

At times the world itself even seems borderline retarded to me. You might think it is a pleasant feeling because I get to feel better than everyone else. Actually it makes me miserable. Sometimes I would kill for a 100 IQ just go I could be one of the boys or one of the guys. I sometimes like to hang out with very ordinary people –  people who have been to jail or prison, drug users, former or current gang members, heavy drinkers. These people are usually not very smart, but at least I get to feel like salt of the Earth. Some of them are unbelievably friendly. They are so warm. You’re having your first conversation with them and they act like they’re your best friend for years.

And ordinary people are often a Hell of a lot smarter than you think.

If someone seems smart as Hell, I might ask them if they have ever taken an IQ test. MIGHT. But if not, I would not even ask them. If someone’s IQ seems around normal, I would never ask them their score. It would be embarrassing to them. Sometimes I ask girlfriends though because if I am dating a woman regularly, I like to know her IQ score. It really helps to know that. And if her IQ is under 115, I can tell you right off the bat that there are probably going to be problems. Like pretty serious ones.

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Your Average Person Is a Hell of a Lot Smarter Than You Think

I would also say that if you sit down and talk to some of these very ordinary people, they are a lot smarter than you (or I) would think. A lot of them turn their brains up to much higher than normal speed when they talk to me because I imagine they trying to keep up with me on the cerebral highway. I am always amazed at how fast the average person can get their brain going. I really think that most people operate their brains at about half or 1/3 speed most of the time. You would be amazed at how much the average Joe can ramp it up if he has to. This never fails to surprise me. And it definitely shows that most of us are not operating our brains at top speed or top efficiency most of the time. Maybe there’s a reason for that. Maybe slower is more relaxing and calms you down and makes life easier to cruise through. I won’t knock thinking slowly. There are advantages to most things in the world.

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A Day in the Life of a Cerebral Alien

I was in a doctor’s office the other day and as usual my brain was going so far over the speed limit of life that it was almost hazardous. As usual. I looked around. No book. Magazines. No magazines. Pamphlets? No pamphlets! Posters on the wall? I got up and read those. Medical posters, fairly complex, but I had them done in a minute or two. A couple I did in 20-30 seconds. I sat down. Bored again! It’s like driving 😯 mph when everyone around you is going 20-30. You are always getting roadblocked and it is very frustrating.

So I looked around the room. There were shower curtains for  privacy over the patient table. These things  hang on chains. I tried to figure out the exact midpoint in the series of curtain chains. Got frustrated fast so I counted them. 15 chains. Ok so the middle is between the 7th and 8th chain. I go to the 7th and 8th chain both ways to try to find the middle. I get it after a bit. Now I am bored again. A new game. Look away from the curtain and look back again and try to find that exact middle spot from sheer memory of what it looked like due to its place in the curtains, distance from surrounding chains, etc. Took a little bit but then I could do that very well. I could look away and look back and hit that exact middle point every time.

Bored again.

Now I am looking around at the ceiling. The ceiling contains these blocks that look like either squares or rectangles. Going east to west, there are 4-5 blocks put together that make up the ceiling and there are three rows of these going north to south. That’s your ceiling. Maybe 15 squarish things. So I try to find the exact middle again. Pretty soon I get that there are five block things and each one is exactly as large as the other. There are five going east to west. Two one way, two another and one in the middle. So the middle of the room east-west is the middle of the center squarish thing. Wa-la!

Now you might think doing this that I might be good at math or some visuospatial thing. Maybe I could work in construction or engineering. Actually I am horrible at all of those things and I hated those courses in school.  But even things that I am horrible at I might be as good as or better than at than the average person.

Now I have got them north to south. Pretty soon it’s the same deal. I think five squarish things north-south too. All the same size and the same size as the east-west ones.  Wa-la! The room is some sort of a  perfect square! How interesting. Are rooms generally designed this way? And why? Damn room designers are smart.

Bored again. I am now looking at the keypad on the phone. I think there are nine or ten dials on it with numbers and letters. Find the middle one again. I find it. Look away and try to find it right away by memory without counting. Got it.

Bored again. There is some thing on the door with a bunch of buttons on it. Quickly count the buttons and try to find the middle one again. Look away and try to find the middle one without counting. Got it.

I am looking around the room. You guessed it. Bored again.

This is what my life is like or can be like. I walk around all day long doing crazy and senseless calculations like this making little tests and games simply because ordinary life is just too boring for me.

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My Latest Theory on the Delphi Murders with a New Unsub Profile, in Q and A Format

NOTE TO COMMENTERS 1:

I am getting tired of saying this over and over, but most of the material below is made up of rumors and my own opinions and theories. None of that is represented as fact. Furthermore, I am not using rumors as reliable sources as has been alleged. I never said they were reliable sources. How reliable is a rumor? That’s for you to determine, but in general a rumor is not considered to be a reliable source, and they are not treated as such below. 

Also when I say I am 100% sure of something, that means that I am 100% sure of it in my own mind. All of us are 100% sure of all sorts of things we cannot prove. That’s the nature of the human condition. We simply assume many things are facts until proven otherwise. Now many of these things that I was completely certain of were later proven to be wrong. Such is the case with many other things people become certain of in their own mind. Once again, when I say I am sure or certain or 100% certain, it means only that I am sure in my own mind. I am not stating that any of these things are facts. They are simply my convictions. Any of all of these firmly held beliefs of mine about this case could possibly will later prove to be false.

The only thing that is represented as fact are statements sourced from LE or the media. If you have issues with rumors, theories, opinions. etc., just quit reading right now and save yourself the heartache. 

NOTE TO COMMENTERS 2:

I thought I made this one thing perfectly clear as Richard Nixon used to say:

I have no sources whatsoever among the families of the girls.

I have no sources whatsoever in LE, local or otherwise. 

There ya go.

What I do have is sources close to the families. These people generally live in Delphi and the surrounding region. So that makes my rumors even more hearsay. I’m not even talking to the families. I am talking to people who talk to the families!

Of course I have no LE sources. I thought I made that clear. Never have. Yes, I have talked to some of them, but of course they didn’t tell me a thing. A couple of times they told me that a certain person was a POI or that a certain person had been cleared with an airtight alibi. I suppose they don’t mind giving out that information. But other than that, they don’t tell me jack. It’s hard enough to even get them to call you back. I think if I asked them if my name was Robert Lindsay, they would say, “I am sorry, but I cannot comment on matters relating to an ongoing investigation.” That’s how bad it is.

So what do I have? Once again, I have sources who are close to LE. They get their information from LE, then they talk to me. So once again this is even more hearsay, as I am not even talking to LE but to the people who are talking to LE.

I really wish people would quit claiming I have LE or family sources. I just don’t. If you think I have these sources, just quit reading my stuff right now and go away. You will not be missed!

NOTE TO COMMENTERS 3: The lies never end. The latest is “Lindsay takes other people’s theories and claims they are his own.” Of course I don’t. This website is nothing but a compendium of rumors from all over the Net regarding this crime. I go through the rumors and try to rank them on a scale of weak to strong. I compare them against other rumors to see which one is better. All sorts of theories have been flying around since day one. I report those too.

The theories are really just more rumors. I’d say the vast majority of the rumor theories reported here were thought up by other people. I find most of my theories on other sites about this crime. That’s how it works, you know. You get theories about the crime from others. Yes, you use your own theories and you use other people’s theories. I really do not have time to down through the list of theories and say where I got them from. I have come up with a few of my own, but even with those, I guess someone else thought of them first. Also a lot of the theories here are also the result of constant brainstorming I do with my fellow sleuths.

This will be done in a Q and A format.

Profile is of the Unsub who murdered of Abigail Williams and Liberty German of 2-13-17 and 2-14-17.

Q: Are the Evansdale crimes and the Delphi Murders connected?

A: I do not believe so. Two separate perps, but there are some similarities. Both were done by sociopathic men aged 50-60. Girls were removed to a vehicle in both cases. In both cases, girls were taken to a structure where they were kept for a period of at least 12 hours, raped, tortured and killed. In both cases, girls were returned and dumped to an area near water. In both cases, bodies were covered with leaves. Both killers were divorced men with at least two children. Both men blend in very well in the community, and few if any suspect them. The other similarities have been gone over.

Q: Was the killer from Delphi or the surrounding area? Was he from Indiana?

A: No. No.

Q: Was the killer from another state?

A: Yes.

Q: Did the killer commute to commit the crime and then commute back home?

A: Yes.

Q: If the killer does not reside in the area, how do they know the area of the crime so well?

A: The killer is a former resident who lived in the area for many years and now lives in another state. However, he grew up in and around the town.

Q: Does the killer know Ron Logan, the Mears, their neighbors, and the area of the bridge and creek?

A: He knows the people, properties and neighbors like the back of his hand from growing up in the area.

Q: Does he have a criminal record?

A: Yes, long record of mostly minor crimes with some jail stints.

Q: Has he been to prison?

A: At least once, for unknown period of time, on a relatively minor charge.

Q: In what state did he acquire his criminal record, jail and prison stints?

A: Indiana.

Q: Is he employed?

A: Probably not, may collect some sort of a government check just as Disability.

Q: What was his former occupation?

A: Much of it is unknown, but one position was in industrial agriculture.

Q: What is his opinion of the police?

A: Very low, thinks they have it in for him due to long minor record.

Q: Is he an outdoorsman such as a fisherman, hunter, hiker, naturalist, etc.?

A: Absolutely, loves the outdoors.

Q: Does he engage in the pursuit of land and water game such as fish and game animals?

A: Absolutely, avid outdoorsman.

Q: What is the fanny pack?

A: Outdoorsman’s pack. Either a deer kit with scissors, knives, etc. for cutting up game or a fisherman’s pack with fishing line, knives, etc.

Q: What is the significance of the pack to the crime?

A: Knives, scissors, fishing line, etc. possibly used in the crime. Outdoors knives, either hunting or fishing, were surely used.

Q: What was the purpose of the knives?

A: Sadly, to cut up the girls, which sadly I believe was done.

Q: Can you elaborate?

A: Not sure, but reports of mutilation of the girls probably involved the use of the knives.

Q: What do we hear after the “down the hill” audio?

A: The next thing you hear at some point later is the girls screaming.

Q: Where does that take place?

A: No doubt at the bottom of the hill.

Q: What happened down there?

A: He got them down the bottom of the hill where a vehicle was waiting. At that point, I believe he struck them in the head or face with the gun. A bit of that, and they were stunned enough to where he and a probable accomplice tied and gagged them and then put them in the vehicle.

Q: Where in the vehicle?

A: Probably the trunk.

Q: How many vehicles were used in the crime?

A: Two.

Q: Where were they located?

A: One at the north end, which is what Bridge Guy used to approach the bridge from the north side and a second vehicle at the bottom of the hill on the south side.

Q: With two vehicles, there must have been at least two men, right?

A: I do not see how it could have been done otherwise.

Q: Description of car on north side of bridge used by Bridge Guy to approach bridge from north side?

A: Late model white Dodge Dart with paper plates.

Q: Determined how?

A: Female witness.

Q: Confidence level in car description?

A: Very high at the moment.

Q: Why?

A: Statements of individual(s).

 

Q: Who were the two men?

A: I have an idea of who the man on the bridge is, but I know nothing about any accomplice.

Q: How do we know the handgun was used to strike the girls and knock them half out?

A: The FBI was swabbing the gun barrels of residents who lived in the area.

Q: Why?  

A: Looking for the girls’ DNA on the barrels. Conclusion: Gun was used to hit the girls.

Q: Is the killer left or right-handed?

A: The man on the bridge is absolutely left-handed. That is certain.

Q: How do we know?

A: He has the gun strapped to his chest via a holster on the right side pointing upwards. Such a setup would only be used by a left-handed man.

Q: How do we know he had a handgun?

A: You can see it outlined in the Bridge Guy photo.

Q: How old is Bridge Guy?

A: 50-60 years old.

Q: Does he walk with a limp?

A: I think so.

Q: Why?

A: Looks like an arthritic or injured knee.

Q: Does he have mobility issues?

A: For a man his age, no. He is very active.

Q: How tall is Bridge Guy?

A: 5’8-5’10

Q: How much does he weigh?

A: ~170-180 pounds.

Q: Has he always had a paunch?

A: No, he has been in great shape his whole life. The paunch is a recent middle-aged development.

Q: Is he a pedophile?

A: No.

Q: Is he a hebephile?

A: Doubt it.

Q: What is his Age of Attraction?

A: Probably normal, maximum attraction to mature females age 16+ like any normal man.

Q: What is his sexual orientation?

A: Heterosexual.

Q: Is he masculine, feminine, in between?

A: Typical very masculine man from the area. A bit of a badass, tough guy. Uses foul language and has a rough way of speaking.

Q: Psychiatric diagnosis?

A: Apparently sociopath, in my opinion.

Q: General vibe?

A: Looks normal to others, but I know sociopaths, so he appears rather sneaky, devious, “unreadable”, slick, bad boy, naughty, playful, outlaw, gleam in his eye, and rebellious. Appears to be hiding something or keeping some sort of a secret. General feeling of what you see is not what you get.

Q: Can he seem warm, friendly, etc?

A: Very much so. Chameleon. Very hard to figure out. Actor who sees life as a series of roles.

Q: Life theme?

A: You can’t win, they’ve got it in for me, life is a game, I’m fooling them ha ha, also redemption from previous failed life.

Q: Redemption meaning what?

A: He thinks he has turned his life around from a lifetime of mistakes and is now on the right track finally. However, his desires got the best of him.

Q: Verbal style?

A: Versatile, can seem sentimental, poetic and moving. Fools you into thinking he is a person who cares deeply about life’s small and kind wonders.

Q: Feeling towards his own children?

A: Loves them, strangely enough.

Q: Married or divorced?

A: Was married, hence the kids, now divorced.

Q: Easy or messy divorce?

A: Very messy, and I do mean messy. Same with the Evansdale killer.

Q: Child custody issues?

A: Major issues in this area, same as Evansdale killer.

Q: Altercations with ex-wife?

A: Yes, same as Evansdale killer.

Q: Relations with ex-wife?

A: Hostile, same as Evansdale killer.

Q: Ex-wife fears him?

A: Unknown, maybe.

Q: Any special preoccupation with young teenage girls?

A: Unknown, possible but probably not. Sees teenage girls and grown women as versions of a mature female. Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed, etc.

Q: Rage towards females?

A: Seems apparent with the crime but is otherwise not obvious in his life.

Q: Motivation?

A: Same as Evansdale killer. Sociopath / sexual sadist / rape-murder / serial type.

Q: Serial killer?

A: Serial type, but unknown if he has other victims.

Q: Were these his first killings?

A: Unknown, no known other killings. Quite possibly first killings, as hard as that is to believe.

Q: Commuted how far to commit crime and return home?

A: 100-200 miles.

Q: Travel time commuting to commit crime and return?

A: 3 hours.

Q: Resides in which state?

A: An unknown state neighboring Indiana.

Q: Gang ties?

A: Possible from prison. Possible Aryan Brotherhood.

Q: Determined how?

A: Can’t say right now. Has to do with his hands.

Q: Tattoos?

A: One large one on front torso.

Q: In his 50’s, how did he negotiate that scary bridge?

A: Grew up in the area. Bridge area is like his backyard. Has probably traversed it many times. Also very fit from active life despite bad knee.

Q: Physical condition?

A: Excellent for age due to active outdoors life.

Q: Capable of fooling people?

A: Very much so. Academy award actor. Life is a series of roles.

Q: Friends suspect him of bad things?

A: No. Has a circle of warm friends, tough, hard outdoors, badass men of about the same age who think he is completely on the up and up. He’s fooling them all. Chameleon.

Q: Sexual peculiarities noticeable to wives or girlfriends?

A: Unknown, may have hidden his sexual sadism.

Q: Why?

A: Sneaky, devious, underhanded, conspiring and plotting fellow. Most actions are well plotted and planned. Little spontaneity other than rages.

Q: Violent temper?

A: Regularly and very much so, generally verbal, sometimes threats.

Q: Displays hostility to women?

A: Sometimes verbally, but typical for tough guy, hard man, roughneck, ex-con working class outdoors redneck type.

Q: Jokes about rape or threats of rape towards women?

A: Sometimes, veiled, but common for his type.

Q: Racist? White Supremacist?

A: No. Brotherhood ties but rarely if ever makes racial remarks. Probably joined Brotherhood for self-protection in prison. Often comes across as anti-racist, even a coastal liberal variety.

Q: Politics?

A: Quite liberal. Sort of an aging hippie type, unusual for Indiana.

Q: Drug user?

A: Marijuana, yes. Enjoys it a lot.

Q: Drinker?

A: Former very serious problem, present status unknown. May be sober now.

Q: Smoker?

A: Yes, smokes cigarettes.

Q: Smoked during crime?

A: I believe so.

Q: How do we know?

A: Cigarette found at scene. Possibly his.

Q: Can comments, remarks and speech be trusted?

A: Absolutely not. Pathological liar. Truth is mixed in with lies and fabrications to the point where he believes his own lies and even gets caught in them.

Q: Reaction if caught in a lie?

A: Temper, rage, ranting, veiled threats via angry language.

Q: Appears normal, even like a nice guy or regular guy?

A: Very much so.

Q: Good friend?

A: Can play the role very well. Charming and disarming. The more you get to know him, the more harmless you think he is.

Q: Takes responsibility for actions?

A: No, blames others for everything. When at fault, blames others. Attacks others and then claims to be acting in self-defense.

Q: Behavior in court?

A: Shameless pathological defensive lying, blaming others.

Q: Other defenses?

A: Excellent at distracting people and directing attention away from what is important. Red herrings, irrelevancies, redirects, minor details, fussing, wrong turns, wrong directions.

Q: Conversational defense?

A: Denial, rage, rants, especially redirection.

Q: Liberty’s phone recovered by police?

A: I do not think so.

Q: Video and audio how?

A: From cloud.

Q: Disposition of phone?

A: Killer found it on Libby, possibly resulting in fatal rage attack and double garroting that nearly decapitated her.

Q: Disposition of phone?

A: Retained by killer, destroyed and disposed of.

Q: Location of phone?

A: Never left Delphi. Disposed in Delphi.

Q: Found by LE?

A: Extremely doubtful.

Q: Recoverable by LE?

A: Quite probably.

Q: Location of phone?

A: Very close to crime scene, but buried deep.

Q: How deep?

A: 10-20 feet plus.

Q: Recovery feasibility?

A: Difficult but quite possible with sufficient resources.

Q: Data available on phone?

A: All data destroyed.

Q: Condition of phone?

A: Destroyed, unusable but possibly intact. It’s buried deep. That is the problem.

Q: Killer’s prints or DNA on phone?

A: No way, not possible.

Q: Recovery of phone would assist case?

A: Possibly dramatically.

Q: How was knowledge of phone story obtained?

A: No comment.

Q: Theory reported to LE?

A: Absolutely.

Q: Girls’ bodies posed in odd manner?

A: Apparently.

Q: Why?

A: Posing had occult or Satanic overtones.

Q: Was this an occult or Satanic crime?

A: Unknown, but if it was not, it may have been made to look like one. Killer specializes in wrong way streets, red herrings, misdirection and redirection.

Q: Satanic or occult theory status?

A: Weak.

Q: Why?

A: Killer has no known occult or Satanic interests. He may have such, but it is not obvious, and if he does, he hides it well, as he does with so many things.

Q: Killer IQ?

A: Average.

Q: Street smarts, etc.?

A: Killer is smart like a fox. In terms of sheer animal, devious and utterly cunning smarts, he is brilliant, has a genius IQ in this type of intelligence.

Q: Education level?

A: Low.

Q: Killer is storyteller, raconteur?

A: Very much so.

Q: Entertaining in this role?

A: Turns off some, but extremely entertaining to others.

Q: Philosophical outlook?

A: Cynical, humans are lousy animals driven by low, base interests, corrupt at their core.

Q: Killer’s attitude towards this?

A: Acts offended. Plays role of offended good citizen outraged by sleazy corruption.

Q: LE communicated with killer during course of investigation so far?

A: Absolutely and documented.

Q: LE suspicious of killer as a result of conversations between LE and killer?

A:  Very dubious, he fooled them too. He fools so many people. He is an expert at fooling people.

Q: LE has DNA from crime?

A: Unknown, maybe.

Q: Status of DNA, if so?

A: No match in databases.

Q: Killer’s DNA is in databases?

A: Doubt it. Otherwise there would be a match.

Q: Kill method of both girls?

A: Garroting, probably double garroting.

Q: Garroting material used?

A: I have a good guess, but I will not say. Not a typical garroting item but would work very well.

Q: Baling wire from Mears barn used to garrot?

A: I do not think so, though it was available.

Q: Why garroting?

A: Kill method apparently intended from the start. Carried garroting supplies.

Q: Intended to only rape, hurt, frighten girls and leave?

A: No.

Q: Killed because scene got out of hand and panicked?

A: No, murder intended from the start.

Q: Why did girls’ throats seem cut?

A: Garroting strangles you and cuts your throat.

Q: Difference between garroting and knife cut of neck?

A: Knife cuts from the front and can decapitate. Garroting cuts all the way around but seldom decapitates because garroting material is not as sharp as a knife to cut through back of neck.

Q: Condition of girls’ fingernails?

A: Blood and dirt under Liberty’s nails. Dirt under Abbie’s nails. Abbie’s nails badly torn up.

Q: Certainty of garroting used?

A: Extremely high, confirmed by several sources close to family.

Q: Unwanted pregnancy, botched abortion theory of motive?

A: This was a great theory, the only one so far that even made since with good evidence to back it up via autopsy findings and method of attack, but the theory seems dead. This was not the motive for the killings.

Q: Abbie found with stake in her?

A: Appears so, very strong likelihood.

Q: Why?

A: Killer apparently discovered she was pregnant, girl was staked to kill the fetus. Best theory.

Q: How did he find or theorize she was pregnant?

A: Unknown.

Q: Abbie found pregnant on autopsy?

A: Strong rumor but highly disputed and white-hot controversial.

Q: Abbie proven to be pregnant?

A: Not at all, but likely was.

Q: Why likely?

A: Abbie family member strongly implied she was pregnant and the killing involved an attempt to kill a fetus.

Q: Bridge Guy seen in Abbie photo on bridge?

A: Yes hiding behind a tree.

Q: Photo exists?

A: Yes, will be posted, man outlined with software.

Q: Confidence that this is the Bridge Guy?

A: Very high, color of clothing on man behind tree is perfect match for color of clothing of man on bridge.

Q: Condition of girls’ bodies?

A: Abbie nude, Liberty topless.

Q: Girls clothes where?

A: In the creek to destroy DNA.

Q: Girls suffered?

A: Very much so, Abbie most of all. Liberty’s nightmare may have been mercifully shortened.

Q: Abbie alive when dumped?

A: Absolutely.

Q: Time of death?

A: 9 AM 2-14, 30 minutes before search started. So sad.

Q: Certainty of time of death?

A: High.

Q: Abbie lingered after dumped?

A: Yes, 1.5-6.5 hours

Q: Why?

A: Who knows? She did not lose much blood for some reason.

Q: Abbie cause of death?

A: Exposure.

Q: Crime scene contaminated?

A: Dubious.

Q: Searcher touched bodies on discovery?

A: Highly dubious.

Q: Who found bodies?

A: Man and wife and another man.

Q: How known?

A: Documented from screenshot conversations with searchers who found the body.

Q: Screenshot available?

A: Yes, to be posted.

Q: Liberty’s family involved in crime?

A: I say no.

Q: S and H families involved in crime?

A: I say no.

Q: Ron Logan involved?

A: This is one of the stupidest episodes of this entire affair. Not as tragic as the girls, but nevertheless a tragedy. Punishments should fit crimes. Logan is a drunk and probation violator. He’s not killer. The whole idea is insane.

Q: Sexual activity by the girls involved?

A: Both girls may well have been sexually active. One certainly was. But this had nothing to do with a motive for the crime as was thought earlier. It may have been the impetus for an attack on Abbie though.

Q: If attempt to kill fetus theory correct, what motive?

A: Previous motive is trashed because suspects are all cleared. Motive then would be simple cruelty. Killer somehow found she was pregnant and tried to kill fetus as part of general sexually sadistic crime.

Q: Killer’s attitude towards investigation?

A: Nervous, fearful of being caught but also sees the whole thing as a laughable game of cat and mouse. He’s getting a real kick out of it. This is just good times to him. He’s fooling them and hiding right under their noses, ha ha.

Q: LE stated killer may have given false tips. Accurate?

A: Could well be.

Q: Killer involved in the investigation?

A: Quite possibly.

Q: Why?

A: Can’t help himself. Loves the limelight, publicity hound, likes the idea that he is hiding right under their noses and getting away with it, this is hilarious.

Q: Significance of 13th for day of attack, day of bad luck of occult significance?

A: Unknown if any. May be random.

Q: Significance of Valentines Day for body dump day?

A: Unknown, may be random.

Q: Significance of dates adding up to 32, an occult number?

A: Unknown, may be random.

Q: Significance of Evansdale and Delphi dates being exact mirror images of each other?

A: Fascinating, but may be random.

Q: Possible occult significance of killing Abbie Williams, namesake of Salem Witch trials accuser?

A: Unknown, may be random or coincidental.

Q: Time of body dump?

A: 2:30 AM – 7:30 AM

Q: How girls taken to site?

A: Left Mears barn in vehicle, drove 25 yards to cemetery , then to southwest gate of cemetery, through unlocked gate of Ron Logan’s horse pasture, 10 feet to start of trail.

Q: Girls where in car?

A: No doubt in trunk.

Q: How girls taken to dump site?

A: Via trail. Dragged down a trail.

Q: How determined?

A: Searchers followed drag trail to bodies.

Q: One man dragged two girls?

A: Very dubious, especially with Libby at 200 pounds. Excellent reason for two killer theory.

Q: Killers’ actions after body dump?

A: Rapid departure from area in darkness and then 100-200 miles to home.

Q: Where were the girls taken after they were abducted?

A: To the Mears barn.

Q: At what time?

A: Probably 3 PM or so.

Q: Were Ron Logan and the Mears home?

A: Both were gone.

Q: Did the killer know this?

A: It seems like he must have.

Q: How did he know this?

A: No idea, but I believe that the killer was extremely familiar with the area, Logan, the Mears and their neighbors, having known and lived around them for a long time when he was younger. He was nearly in his own backyard.

Q: Did the killer know the weather in the area?

A: Yes.

Q: For how long?

A: For at least one week prior, had been following Delphi weather.

Q: What happened when the car drove onto the Mears property by the barn?

A: It drove right into the barn.

Q: Can the barn fit a car?

A: Yes, and more than one, with much room to spare. The barn is massive, like a cavern.

Q: Couldn’t people see the car in the barn?

A: Although the barn is only a short ways off the road, from the road, you can barely see one foot inside the barn even in broad daylight. It is like a black hole.

Q: Couldn’t people see in the barn at night?

A: Not at all.

Q: Even if the killers had an artificial light source?

A: They still could not see in. First the entrance was blocked by the vehicle, and anyway, with a low light, the barn is such a black hole that a small light source would probably not be detected from the road. You would see only pure black darkness at the entrance to the barn-cavern.

Q: How long were the girls kept in the barn?

A: Probably from 3 PM 2-13 to 3 AM 2-14, 12 long hours.

Q: Were they alive the whole time?

A: Abbie was, sadly, but Libby was killed earlier on on 2-13.

Q: Why was Libby killed earlier?

A: I think she gave him a great big fight, and she was a handful.

Q: So what happened?

A: He flew into a rage at her resistance, grabbed his garroting material, and double garroted her.

Q: Abbie saw this?

A: As horrible as it sounds, yes. This is as bad as it gets.

Q: Why didn’t the girls make some noise?

A: Probably gagged.

Q: Is it true that Libby had 4-5 chances to escape?

A: Apparently, police say so.

Q: They know this how?

A: God knows.

Q: Why didn’t she flee?

A: The saddest part of all. She was so dedicated to her friend that she vowed to not leave her friend in this horrible state with this monster. She was going to stay with Abbie all the way through this mess. She could not leave and abandon her friend to this horror. In real life, they were inseparable.

Q: What happened in the barn?

A: Who knows? Girls were kept in there, tormented, tortured, probably cut with knives, Libby was garroted, Abbie garroted right before departure, and both girls were sexually mutilated.

Q: Sexually mutilated how?

A: God knows. But Abbie may have had a stick up her up vagina, as awful as it sounds.

Q: The killer speared Abbie in the  stomach with a sharp stick?

A: Yes, like I said, as bad as it gets.

Q: How certain are you of this?

A: Very much so.

Q: How did he spear her, horizontally or vertically?

A: He drove the stake into her stomach or abdomen. If she was pregnant, this looks like an attempt to kill the fetus. If vertically, he straddled her and stood over her and shoved it in her from above, which would be hard to do. Or horizontally, he put the stick up her vagina and into her stomach that way, as awful as it sounds.

Q: Which would cause a quicker fatality?

A: Surely vertical.

Q: What evidence do we have for horizontal or vertical?

A: Only one rumor from one source, very recently. She said horizontally.

Q: How would the two methods of spearing differ?

A: Vertically would probably be a very quick death and would actually be more merciful, but it would be hard to drive the stake in. Horizontally, poor Abbie could have lingered for some time. She would have suffered much more with a horizontal attack. It would have been horrendous.

Q: Abbie survived the killer’s attacks?

A: Unbelievably, yes. She survived the double garroting, which was poorly done, whatever else was done and even the staking.

Q: When did he stake her?

A: I am thinking after he dumped them.

Q: Why?

A: God knows. Perhaps he discovered that Abbie was still alive, went nuts and staked her to finish her off.

Q: How were girls placed?

A: They were  posed in odd positions in what one person said looked like a Satanic or occult ritual. Also they were covered with leaves, but Abbie escaped from under leaves and unbelievably even managed to crawl away some distance.

Q: What was Abbie’s cause of death?

A: Exposure.

Q: How long did Abbie survive in the forest?

A: From 1.5 to 6.5 hours, incredibly enough.

Q: Why did she survive?

A: Amazingly, she did not lose much blood.

Q: What is the killer’s attitude to getting photographed and recorded?

A: A lot of panic, but also he thinks it is a game and a big joke.

Q: How is he dealing with his photo and audio being out there?

A: Has a plan, but I can’t talk about it right now.

Q: Does the killer seem like a suspicious person?

A: Absolutely not. Total chameleon.

Q: Will he be caught?

A: I believe so.

Q: When?

A: Perhaps sooner than you think.

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