Open Topic Page 5

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470 Responses to Open Topic Page 5

  1. ski
    August 19, 2010 at 1:44 PM

    I can understand your anti-racism to an extent, but knowing what you know about racial differences, I can’t understand the obsession with racial integration of public schools. I mean shouldn’t it be a no brainer that the IQ disparities, plus natural ethnocentrism of all humans, plus the fact that young children are immature and impulsive, plus an anti-White cultural environment be a recipe for disaster.

    I wonder if you’d think differently had you attended a school with a large percentage of minorities (especially Blacks). My public school was only about 1/2 Black with about 2% other (Asian+Latino) and the rest White, but that was enough to make it basically a zoo, despite being well funded. Sorry to use language that can be taken to be comparing Blacks with animals but I don’t see a more appropriate option. These Black students pissed on the walls and shit on the floors (it was supposed to be funny, but I think most Whites have a more sophisticated sense of humor in their teenage years), lit trash cans on fire, physically assaulted both the principal (just pushing) and assistant principal (punch to the eye)… I could go on.

    My number one priority regarding racial issues is an end to integrated schools. I don’t want other Whites to have to deal with that kind of shit. Perhaps public schools can stay integrated but it’s an absolute must to somehow find a way to make affordable Whites only private schools if the public schools stay integrated.

    I actually might accept “separate but not equal,” despite the precedent it might set, in favor of minorities if it were the only feasible compromise. I have no doubt at all that I would have received a better education if despite my public school having 50% less money, it also had 100% less black students.

  2. Silver
    August 19, 2010 at 2:40 PM

    I actually might accept “separate but not equal,” despite the precedent it might set, in favor of minorities if it were the only feasible compromise. I have no doubt at all that I would have received a better education if despite my public school having 50% less money, it also had 100% less black students.

    Addition by subtraction if ever there were a case of it. Actually, exponentiation by subtraction.

    It’s interesting that at least part of the liberal rationale for integrating schools was that exposure would teach whites to like blacks, yet the effect that it more often seems to have is to teach whites to secretly despise blacks. And it’s not surprising: exposing a more restrained race like whites to impulsive retards like blacks while at the same time stoking said impulsive retards’ indignation towards the more restrained race at an age when both races are at their most impulsive and immature is obviously a recipe for disaster. If society must be integrated at all (big if, in my book), clearly mature it’s adults who are best prepared to handle the inevitable stresses. Of course, such clear thinking flies in the face of the fantasies that white liberals love to indulge in about race, so it’s not exactly in the offing; but it remains a sensible idea nonetheless.

  3. tulio
    August 20, 2010 at 1:29 AM

    Whites like to think they are inherently more civil than blacks and that even if they lived in ghettos and concentrated, oppressive poverty, they would still act better than blacks. History shows that to be false.

    Look at these tenements in historic NYC, nothing white faces of concentrated poverty:

    http://www.thehistorybox.com/ny_city/tenement_life_gallery.htm

    Anybody that thinks whites won’t behave badly(i.e. like blacks) if put in such desire situations should look at how bad the crime was in these places.

    One tenement in Five Points, Manhattan had one of the highest murder rates in the world! It average one murder every single night for years on end! There were blacks and Irish that lived there, but guess, what, it was the Irish that were forming the gangs and committing all the crimes. The blacks eventually left and the place was run by white gangs.

    Whites these days no longer live in such situations. They instituted socialism, got GI Bills, housing grants and such that practically created the white middle class. White poverty and white crime rates plunged. Since these things were not equally available to blacks, if at all, the poor whites benefited from white privilege. Whiteness was created as a sociological definition to bring whites(including the formerly hated Irish and Italians) under one “in-group” banner to the exclusion of blacks who were left in poverty and lived for many more years the same way these poor, violent whites used to live.

    • Robert Lindsay
      August 20, 2010 at 1:44 AM

      I used to think Blacks acted bad due to poverty. Then I lived in a poor working class White town for 16 years. There was almost zero crime. I didn’t lock my car and often didn’t even lock my house. My friends who live there still often don’t lock their houses when they leave.

      Then I moved to this poor Hispanic city. The crime here is way worse than in that poor White town. I’d say it’s 3X worse, but I’m guessing. And it seems like there are 3X more bad people. And there are gangs everywhere here. There were zero gangs in the other town, but Whites don’t form gangs. This city is 50,000 and the town is 15,000, but that can’t explain the difference.

      Here in this city, in this neighborhood, everyone lives about the same. The Blacks are ghetto, the Hispanics are barrio and the Whites are White trashy. Nevertheless, I would say that the Whites act best, then the Hispanics, and last the Blacks. The Blacks are always getting in trouble, always getting arrested. If you see a cop handcuffing someone, it’s probably a Black. Even here in this complex, it seems like the Whites act best, then the Hispanics and last the Blacks.

      I don’t believe this poverty explanation anymore. I don’t know why Blacks commit all this crime and mayhem. I think maybe there is something wrong with them.

      • fpy3p
        August 20, 2010 at 1:48 AM

        When will Tim Wise ever get the message?

      • tulio
        August 20, 2010 at 2:00 AM

        I thought you’ve said before that the blacks in your town mind their business and aren’t really a problem. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen you say that on numerous occasions. Now you’re saying what seems to be the opposite.

        • Robert Lindsay
          August 20, 2010 at 2:06 AM

          They’re only 4% of the population, so they’re just a small percentage. But they sure commit a ton of crime for such a small minority. They are always getting arrested for this or that, in and out of jail and prison, probation officers coming around looking for them. If you see a cop cuffing someone, it’s often one of the Blacks.

          Now, there’s not a ton of crime in this city, and there’s only a few Blacks, but it sure seems like they commit an outsized amount of crime.

          Yet due to their small numbers, the overall effect is quite manageable.

          Incidentally: 100% of the pimps in town are Blacks. 95%+ of the obvious streetwalkers are Blacks. That’s a group that’s only 4% of the population.

  4. Bay Area Guy
    August 20, 2010 at 1:48 AM

    It’s obviously something worthy of analysis and discussion.

  5. tulio
    August 20, 2010 at 8:40 PM

    2 mormons vs a black dude. Those mormons approached the wrong guy tonight, lol

  6. tulio
    August 23, 2010 at 2:39 PM

    The subject of comparative masculinity between the races and feminism is subject that often arises here. One thing I observe is that white males are the choice mates of feminists of all colors. I recently had a heart to heart conversation with a Latina that is left wing and definitely on the feminist/independent woman tip. She says she prefers white men. She feels that black and Latino men are either too machismo, too controlling, believe too much in gender roles or are likely to cheat. She doesn’t view Asian men as an option under any circumstance. So she prefers white men. And this is a girl who you guys would definitely consider anti-white in politics. Like she believes white people have no culture, that many of them are racist and she’s definitely seems to be in favor of little or no immigration controls.

    She feels that white men are going to be more tolerant of women with her sense of independence(or basically all her feminist traits), and she’s not into all the roles of women thing like having dinner ready and being submissive in any way. She thinks white males are the best option for women like her.

    When I think about it, almost all the feminist I know or have known ended up with white guys. Usually they were the feminized SWPL sort of whites guys. The kind you see waiting outside the store with the baby strapped to his chest in a harness while the wife wants to do her thing inside. I’ve met some of these guys. They come off as wimpy, easy to control and get dominated by their feminist wives who run the show. These guys have usually been shamed into thinking any overt sense of masculinity is taboo. They tend to be very much beta males and wouldn’t think of doing anything that would offend his wife’s feminist sensibilities like suggesting she cook or clean. They also tend to be afraid to do anything that would suggest they see her as a sexual object. That’s the one common complaint amongst feminist, “women are not sexual objects!” Of course women are sexual objects. So are men. That’s not all we are, but that’s part of what we are. If you go around with cleavage showing, don’t be offended if a man leers at your breasts. He’s just being a man. What the fuck is wrong with that? One of these guys looked at me like “wtf” when I said I’m not a feminist, as if they was like someone saying they are against civil rights. So there you go, non-macho non-cavemen white males certainly have their market. It’s feminist females of any color.

    I’m starting to have more and more a dislike for feminism and how it has fucked with the natural order of things. You have a lot of these bitter, domineering Hillary Clinton type women who think they have to compete and fight with men and have a chip on their shoulder. Many of them don’t date or date rarely. I then hear people I know that have wives or girlfriends from S. America, or SE Asia or E. Europe and they say once you hunker down with one of these women who embrace their femininity and believe in putting family first over career, you’ll never want a Western woman again. They say feminism has fucked up Western, and particularly American so bad that they’ve written them off. My uncle ONLY dates Asian women and said he’s done with American women for good. I’ve met other guys that have said similar.

    Thing is, I am a feminist in the strict sense in that I’m all for womens rights, I’m pro choice, I believe women should have equal opportunity, there should be no glass ceilings for women and I think women make perfectly fine heads of state. What I don’t like is the complete feminist assault on femininity and their belief that women will be made strong by making them less like women and more like men. They look down on “girly, feminine women” like a black nationalist would a Uncle Tom. I’m not down with that crap. While both my parents worked, I always grew up in a household where my dad brought home most the bread, my mom worked too, but she always saw it as her duty to cook and clean and shop for the kids. My dad wore the pants, he made the rules. He was never abusive or anything, but it was obvious who was running the show. My mom simply saw it as her duty to take care of the house make sure she made dinner. That’s what her mom did, and that’s what her grandmother did.

  7. LaFleur
    August 24, 2010 at 2:39 PM

    Check out these amazing color pictures of the Russian empire taken between 1909 and 1912.

    http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/08/russia_in_color_a_century_ago.html

    In those years, photographer Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii (1863-1944) undertook a photographic survey of the Russian Empire with the support of Tsar Nicholas II. He used a specialized camera to capture three black and white images in fairly quick succession, using red, green and blue filters, allowing them to later be recombined and projected with filtered lanterns to show near true color images. The high quality of the images, combined with the bright colors, make it difficult for viewers to believe that they are looking 100 years back in time – when these photographs were taken, neither the Russian Revolution nor World War I had yet begun.

    All 2606 of the photos can be seen here:

    http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?c=100&sp=1&co=prok&st=grid

    • fpy3p
      August 24, 2010 at 2:42 PM

      Amazing. Unfortunately, the Jewish Bolsheviks murdered the Romanovs and tried to destroy traditional Russian culture.

  8. LaFleur
    August 26, 2010 at 4:01 PM

    Have you ever looked at the website “Emails from an Asshole”? I was weeping with laughter:

    http://dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=93

  9. tulio
    August 27, 2010 at 4:38 PM

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19374216/

    This is 3 years old, but a pretty interesting study on how much sex the average person is having. It also breaks it down by race too, which is even more fascinating.

    My first thought is that people way over-estimate how much sex is happening out there. The average man will only sleep with 7 women in his life, yet most guys think every guy out there is getting more ass than he is. Nearly half of black men had banged at least 15 women in their life. So black men are skewing the average up, so you have to assume that means the average white man may only sleep with 5 or 6 in his life. Hispanics screw at about the same rate as whites despite their large family sizes. I’m guessing the average for Asian men would probably be half that of white and Hispanic men. We recently had a discussion about race and promiscuity rates. According to this study, blacks are definitely on top of the promiscuity ladder. However, I think most men want to do what black men do. Half of black men have slept with at least 15 women. A much lower rate of white men have. But most white men would love to sleep with as many women as black men do. The only difference I think is in ability to pull it off. Maybe black guys have more natural game and are most masculine so the pootang comes easier for them, I don’t know.

    Another interesting figure that was thrown in there is that whites are more likely to use drugs than blacks or Hispanics. Yet who ends up doing time for it? Btw, that’s a point Tim Wise drives at all the time. Most people don’t know that.

    • David
      August 27, 2010 at 5:09 PM

      The average man will only sleep with 7 women in his life, yet most guys think every guy out there is getting more ass than he is.

      But the average guy is probably correct (not about every guy, but definitely about the alpha guys). The problem with average data is just that; it is a composite of the entire population, rather than a broken down statistic.

      The alpha-to-omega behavior distribution among males in the population means that you have some men sleeping with massive numbers of partners in their lifetime, while others sleep with only zero, one, or two partners in their lifetime. The link you posted also cites a whopping 17% of guys as having one or less (as in, no) sexual partners of the opposite sex during their lifetime.

      If I had to guess as to the distribution of the rest, it’s probably like only between 2 and 4 for another 60 or 70% of the population, then something gigantic like 40+ partners for the alpha 5 or 10%. The numbers still add up to a mathematical “average” of 7 per man, but the majority of men (as in, over 70%) are not getting anything close to 7.

      It’s not really blacks per se that are skewing the average, but rather alpha males. Black skewing is merely derived from the fact that more blacks on average exhibit alpha-male tendencies (or, as you put it, have more natural game).

      • tulio
        August 27, 2010 at 5:17 PM

        Interesting. I would love to see a plot broken out by distribution of lays. It would also be interesting to see how much places like L.A., NYC and Miami skew the average up.

        I don’t know how scientific this poll was as far as methodology, but guys tend to exaggerate how many women they’ve slept with and women tend to downplay it. So the average of 7 may even *still* be too high.

      • tulio
        August 27, 2010 at 5:23 PM

        More figures: http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/PollVault/story?id=156921&page=1

        Overall, women report an average of six sex partners in their lifetimes; men, 20. But a better gauge of sexual activity for most people is the median, the midpoint between the high and low: Women report a median of three sex partners; men, a median of eight.

        The averages are higher because a small number of individuals — especially men — report a very large number of partners. Five percent of the men in this sample reported having had 99 or more sex partners, including four who reported 200, three who reported 300 and one who reported 400. Among women, one percent reported 99 or more partners; the high was 100 (reported by two women).

  10. tulio
    August 31, 2010 at 8:01 PM

    Have any of you guys ever had a DNA haplogroup test? They’re kinda pricey but I’d love to get one just to satisfy my curiosity.

    • fpy3p
      August 31, 2010 at 8:17 PM

      I’d love to get one of those, particularly my paternal ancestry. I’ve been mistaken for Central Asian Turkic many times even though I’m East Asian.

      • FG
        September 1, 2010 at 2:24 PM

        I think the haplogroup tests only shed light on a tiny portion of your ancestry. The autosomal tests give you the breakdown of your entire heritage. Some of the autosomal tests only give you only %white, %black, %Indian, and % Asian but if I’m not mistaken for those who are pretty racially pure, their are also tests that reveal ancestral origins within these groups (e.g. what percentage of your ancestors were German, British, etc.).

  11. tulio
    September 1, 2010 at 1:37 PM

    This is a fascinating read:

    http://www.nationalpost.com/Westerners%2BWorld%2Bweird%2Bones/3427126/story.html

    Psychologically, Westerners are fundamentally different. The part about the arrow experiment and how some Africans see it is really interesting. And makes me think about how are brains became hard-wired by culture.

    • Bay Area Guy
      September 10, 2010 at 3:02 PM

      Lol!

      They should be the ones who are famous, not Christian Lander.

      That bastard! ;-)

      • tulio
        September 10, 2010 at 9:04 PM

        The funniest part to me was his litmus test of putting “fucking” in between a phrase and if it sounds cool, then white people will like it. E.g. Harley “fucking” Davidson or David “fucking” Bowie, yet Alicia “fucking” Keys just doesn’t do it…hahahah, so true!

  13. Gay State Girl
    September 10, 2010 at 9:09 PM

    Lindsay
    Do you think mentally incompetent people such as the mentally retarded and Alzheimers should be allowed to vote? I’ve seen various abuses by family members.

  14. Reality Check
    September 11, 2010 at 9:21 PM

    Boy, things sure got quiet around here now that the cuckoo has left the nest.

    *Hears crickets chirping*

    • Robert Lindsay
      September 12, 2010 at 3:56 AM

      What do you mean? What cuckoo left the site?

      • Reality Check
        September 13, 2010 at 3:38 PM

        You mean there is more than one?

      • David
        September 13, 2010 at 4:27 PM

        Maybe she’s talking about fpy3p?

        He’s a cool guy, but he sort of creeps me out sometimes and seems to give off school-shootery-type vibes. I mean, even heg has a sense of humor at least.

        • Robert Lindsay
          September 13, 2010 at 4:42 PM

          I think she was talking about him, in fact. I agree with the rest of your comment, unfortunately.

        • Bay Area Guy
          September 13, 2010 at 6:47 PM

          I mean, even heg has a sense of humor at least.

          I keep telling FPY that. Humor and tone are very important.

          I don’t think people react to him negatively on account of his ideology. I mean, we’ve got white nationalists, critical race theorists, Jews, anti-Semites, leftists, reactionary Capitalists, fascists, etc, on this site.

          The main problem with FPY is that he just doesn’t come across too well.

        • Reality Check
          September 13, 2010 at 6:57 PM

          Who here is a CRT?

        • Gay State Girl
          September 13, 2010 at 7:15 PM

          Tulio is a CRT.

        • Reality Check
          September 13, 2010 at 7:20 PM

          Any black nationalists here?

        • Bay Area Guy
          September 13, 2010 at 8:26 PM

          Tulio is definitely a critical race theorist/anti-racist type.

          Chic Noir and Alpha also are, although to a much smaller extent, so I guess I don’t really think of them as CRT’s.

        • Bay Area Guy
          September 13, 2010 at 8:28 PM

          No, I don’t think there are any black nationalists here.

          There was one hilariously idiotic hit-and-run black nationalist troll a while back, but he didn’t stick around.

        • Reality Check
          September 13, 2010 at 8:28 PM

          BAG,

          Since when are Jews an ideology? Earlier you claimed that Jews are a race.

        • Bay Area Guy
          September 14, 2010 at 1:28 AM

          Since when are Jews an ideology? Earlier you claimed that Jews are a race.

          I guess I should have been more careful with what I wrote.

          What I meant was that all types are represented here.

          I still maintain my position that Jews are a racial/ethnic group.

  16. jacobbauthumley
    September 12, 2010 at 7:10 PM

    Speaking of burning Holy Books…an epidemic of Bible burning, a pyre in every town square n the country to protest the Pope’s visit to the UK, would be a healthy anti-clerical response. But no, we Limeys will just lie down quietly and take it up the arse as usual, like all those innocent little boys, rectal receptacles of priestly semen…how DOES “EL PAPA” GET AWAY WITH IT!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/sep/11/pope-vatican-abuse-geoffrey-robertson

    Down with the Vatican state, then…It’s an absurd anachronism. Full reintegration with Italy!

  17. Abiezer Coppe
    September 12, 2010 at 7:58 PM

    Yes, good point! Catholic bibles! Catholic New Testaments! Large piles of them!

    We’re a Protestant country, goddamit! We had a Reformation for a reason! Stop the foreign Pontiff at Dover!

    No pasaran! Jesus would’ve done the same! He’s an imposter of entrenched power and hierarchy, not a spiritual leader…

  18. Gay State Girl
    September 12, 2010 at 10:10 PM

    I just found this

    Beautiful

    “If the Israelis were smart they would allow Palestinians to build casinos near some of their settlements, then we could have world peace.”

    • LaFleur
      September 18, 2010 at 8:10 AM

      Complete with all-you-can-eat shawarma (don’t be stingy with the garlic sauce) and baklava buffet? I’m there.

  19. dtngwyfr
    September 17, 2010 at 10:12 PM

    Sweet site , I hadn’t noticed robertlindsay.wordpress.com before till my wife told me about it.
    Keep up the great work! I will be posting more at robertlindsay.wordpress.com

    Looking forward to some good times here at robertlindsay.wordpress.com
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  20. LaFleur
    September 18, 2010 at 8:11 AM

    God gave rock ‘n’ roll to everyone:

    http://video.yahoo.com/watch/8251855/21944528

  21. LaFleur
    October 1, 2010 at 3:29 PM

    Since there’s been so much discussion of IQ scores, how did you guys find out your score? What testing service would you recommend?

    I don’t remember if I was ever tested in my Catholic school. If I was, might it appear on a transcript?

    • Robert Lindsay
      October 1, 2010 at 4:16 PM

      Should. They are supposed to test everyone.

      I was tested in the 9th grade. My counselor showed me my score – 147. I don’t want to take any more tests. I’ve got my score. Don’t need any new tests to back it up or whatever.

      I did take another one at age 29. My Mom worked for a psychologist and he tested me for free. All he would say was, “Very high, very, very high.” He’d tested like ~600 people over the past few years and mine was in the top 10-15 or so.

      I don’t need to keep taking tests. Once you get a good nice high score, why take another one. Just keep it. ;)

      You can always pay a psychologist to give you a test. Costs ~$200.

      • Cyrus
        October 1, 2010 at 4:49 PM

        147? Damn that is high Robert.

        I was tested when I was 9 or 10, by a School District Psychologist in Florida. It was done to counter the opinion of a corrupt school counselor, who broke the law anyways in my case. He was attempting a claim that I had various learning” problems,” without the authority or basis to do so.

        It turned out that I was reading Tom Clancy novels in class, instead of paying attention to all of that hardcore 4th grade level “learning.”

        As such, the teacher wanted me out of her class, and conspired with the prick counselor to have me labeled “special,” i.e a fucking retard.

        As it happened, I scored either a 128 or 132 on the test. Go figure. I was just a bored kid.

        • Gay State Girl
          October 1, 2010 at 9:25 PM

          A Psychologist tested me in fourth grade and recommended I go to a special school because my Performance IQ was low. I was a social retard. This was a problem because my Verbal skills were average and my math skills were well above average and the school was not challenging.

        • Cyrus
          October 2, 2010 at 12:29 PM

          Gay State Girl, what you say does not surprise me in the least. It really is an “industry.” Sort of like the prison-industrial complex.

          Children are the victims. Especially the ones who are simply “different,” i.e the introverts, readers, “nerds,” etc.

          Pretty much sums up my basic disdain for modern America.

        • Gay State Girl
          October 2, 2010 at 3:18 PM

          Cyrus
          It is an industry of a sort in the case that Pharmaceutical companies have made hundreds of millions, doping up children who are labelled and schools whether private or mainstream public, don’t want to deal with these “problem children” and parents often don’t their children associating with these children.

          In my case I have Asperger syndrome and mild ADD inattentive type. I was a decent reader, a good speller and very good at math and science as a child. I didn’t really need to pay attention in class in order to get good grades and often spaced out or read other books in class and teachers at the orthdox jewish day school I attended felt that that was rude. I was not hyperactive at all though I was painfully shy as a child so I was quiet and well behaved in class, but that didn’t matter since ADD has gotten a bad reputation since so many kids and their parents use it as an excuse to get away with bad behavior.

          Once a child receives a diagnosis, private schools don’t want to deal with them and public schools stick them in a mainstream classroom for half the day and in special education and various therapies for the other half. Sometimes a well behaved child with a decent IQ is placed with poorly behaved and low IQ children. Being with low IQ kids further stigmatizes the well behaved children children and often causes them to adopt bad behavior from the behavior problem students. Once they are sent to middle school they are automatically placed in remedial classes and special education. They often are not allowed to take AP classes or foreign languages.

          Sometimes the children are sent to separate schools entirely, as was the case with me, and they are not exposed to non disabled kids or a challenging curriculum.
          Many times a diagnosis becomes a self fulfilling prophecy as schools don’t want to deal with students labelled as such and just stick them in special ed.

        • Cyrus
          October 3, 2010 at 3:19 PM

          Well said, Gay State Girl.

    • Reality Check
      October 1, 2010 at 6:57 PM

      These days IQ tests are considered passé; it’s not currently standard procedure to test everyone. They’re generally not administered unless you fall into at least one of the following categories:

      1) You’re gifted
      2) Someone thinks you are
      3) You’re mentally challenged
      4) Someone thinks you are

      Even if you were tested, the score might not necessarily appear on your transcript; it might be in a separate report.

      Mensa administers its own IQ test in October for $40.

  22. LaFleur
    October 1, 2010 at 4:35 PM

    I don’t need to keep taking tests. Once you get a good nice high score, why take another one. Just keep it. ;)

    Damn right. Considering all your adventures back in the day, I wouldn’t want to retake one either. :)

  23. Bay Area Guy
    October 1, 2010 at 6:18 PM

    Yipee! Rahm Emanuel is gone!

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101001/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_chief_of_staff

    I feel bad for Chicago though! ;-)

  24. Bay Area Guy
    October 1, 2010 at 9:13 PM

    Rick Sanchez gets fired from CNN for making critical remarks about Jews.

    Surprise, surprise. Funny how Jews love to insist that they don’t control the media, and yet a media guy loses his job BECAUSE of what he says about Jews.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/01/rick-sanchez-fired-from-c_n_747607.html

    Seriously, maybe somebody can address this, but how are Jews BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION oppressed? At all?

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 1, 2010 at 9:14 PM

      Notice all of the philo-Semitic/Judeophile comments at Huffpo.

    • LaFleur
      October 2, 2010 at 12:53 PM

      Sanchez was born in Cuba and grew up near Miami. Looks like someone thinks he’s gotten a bit too big for his pantalones.

      Jews 1
      La Raza 0

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 2, 2010 at 1:14 PM

      Sanchez should have at least said HOW Jon Stewart was a bigot.

      Simply saying, “oh, well he doesn’t like those not within his framework,” is a bit vague and doesn’t make a compelling argument.

      I’ve also never been too fond of white Hispanics who overcompensate with this “la raza” attitude.

      Still, I don’t think he should have been fired, just for pointing out the obvious with regards to the media.

      • LaFleur
        October 2, 2010 at 1:33 PM

        I’ve also never been too fond of white Hispanics who overcompensate with this “la raza” attitude.

        They’re so irritating. Especially the right wing ones who bitch about communism but are more than happy to take advantage of affirmative action goodies despite being basically white people.

      • Bay Area Guy
        October 2, 2010 at 1:37 PM

        I kinda see white Hispanics in a similar light to Jews (particularly those like Tim Wise).

        They’re white when they want to blend in or when it suits them, but then can easily pull out the oppressed minority card whenever they feel like it.

        I find that really annoying.

        • Gay State Girl
          October 2, 2010 at 4:35 PM

          They should of fired him after his DUI incident in 1990 in which he left a man and fled the scene but the networks are desperate to have hispanic commentators and firing him would incite massive race riots all over the country.

      • Gay State Girl
        December 10, 2010 at 8:14 PM

        Jon Stewart is a shithead. You know his show has a set agenda.

  25. Bay Area Guy
    October 1, 2010 at 10:40 PM

    Ooh, brace yourself for a fight between Thad and one of the black commenters!

    http://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/09/22/africans-sold-their-own-people-as-slaves/#comment-66504

    • LaFleur
      October 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM

      Is that Victoria a self-hater too?

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 2, 2010 at 1:24 PM

      Yeah, she is.

      These Abagond/Ank Mie groupies and butt kissers are fascinating, I think.

      They must have been masochists as kids who loved getting beaten, thought that they deserved what they got, and always want to come back for more.

  26. Bay Area Guy
    October 2, 2010 at 9:50 PM

    Here’s the actual clip by Rick Sanchez.

    Notice how he backtracks and says, “oh yes, they have been oppressed,” and “Jon Stewart’s father could relate to oppression.”

    1) I look down on Sanchez, not for what he said about Jews (which is true), but then pathetically backtracking and claiming that “my friends were Jewish” and “it doesn’t matter if you’re Jewish.” Kinda similar to the whole “my best friends are black” line of defense.

    2) I’ve said this before, but I’m so sick of white Hispanics like Sanchez, who look like the average white man to a random individual, acting as if they’re oppressed minorities who struggle with hardships that “white folks don’t notice, but we do.”

    3) Likewise, I’m sick of the guy who interviewed Sanchez saying, “Jews know what it’s like to be oppressed. They have this fear that it might happen to them again, so they can relate.”

    Newsflash: JEWS ARE NOT OPPRESSED AT ALL!

    Both white Hispanics like Sanchez and the Jews like Stewart he denounces sicken me.

    They can blend in as white when it suits them, but they pull out the oppressed minority card when it suits them. They want to have it both ways.

  27. Bay Area Guy
    October 3, 2010 at 1:42 AM

    Wow, I normally like Brother Nathanael, but this kind of creeps me out.

    I mean sure, I’m the last person who’s a fan of Jewish power or influence, but this goes way too far.

    http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=558

  29. Bay Area Guy
    October 3, 2010 at 6:59 PM

    Wow, it looks like even Eurasian Sensation, who’s about as soft spoken and reasonable as you get, is getting grilled by black commenters over at Abagond.

    And blacks wonder why so many people (whites and other non-blacks) find them to be disagreeable and unpleasant…

    http://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/09/20/bethany-storro/#comment-66694

    • Robert Lindsay
      October 3, 2010 at 7:02 PM

      I like Eurasian Sensation. He seems like a really cool guy. I almost can’t even believe he’s a standard anti-racist. Most of those types come here and get banned almost right away. They start right in calling me racist. I tell em to shut up or get banned, and they all just say fuck you racist, ban me!

      I don’t get it. Maybe he’s an anti like I am. A sensible anti.

    • Robert Lindsay
      October 3, 2010 at 7:05 PM

      Damn, those bitches are simply impossible. Fuck em. I have nothing to do with bitches like that. Rather be alone than wish I was.

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 3, 2010 at 7:08 PM

      Eurasian Sensation is probably the most reasonable and open-minded anti-racist you will every come across. Period.

      If more anti-racists were like him, I wouldn’t hate them so much.

      (although I am trying to focus a little less on the more radical anti-racists and just disregard them)

      Sure, he does subscribe to certain elements of Critical Race Theory, but he’s not dogmatic and is willing to question anti-racist notions and challenge anti-racist ideas every now and then.

      It just tells you something about the Abagond crowd. When even somebody like ES can get angrily attacked, that’s quite telling.

      If a fellow “person of color” (half Anglo/half Indonesian in Eurasian’s case) can get attacked, then just imagine how whites are attacked by those types.

      All the more reason why whites should NEVER, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, debate these blacks. Never. It’s simply not worth it.

      • Bay Area Guy
        October 3, 2010 at 7:12 PM

        While I genuinely regard Eurasian as reasonable and friendly, perhaps reading the likes of Abagond and Ank Mie makes him seem like a monk by comparison.

        Same with Tulio. Even though he espouses Critical Race Theory/anti-racism, compared to Abagond and Ank Mie he’s like Larry Elder, which makes him somehow seem calmer.

        I guess this is often a relative and subjective matter.

        Still, even if we would disagree on a decent amount, Eurasian and I would probably get along on an individual level in real life.

        If I ever go to Australia and just happen to run into him there, that is.

        • Robert Lindsay
          October 3, 2010 at 7:20 PM

          Tulio and ES are both great people. I’d be more than happy to have a drink with either of them in a bar.

          I could care less about CRT or any of that crap. Lots of really nice people believe in that and all sorts of other nonsense. If you hate everybody who has bullshit ideas, you won’t have any friends!

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 3, 2010 at 8:01 PM

          Yeah, I wouldn’t mind having a drink with Tulio or ES at a bar either.

          Abagond or Ank Mie, on the other hand…

          Not only is their ideology radical, but they just seem like unpleasant people in general.

        • Gay State Girl
          October 3, 2010 at 8:19 PM

          Bay Area Guy
          They seem pretty arrogant but they could be nice in person if you get them off the subject of race. Partisan politics is just so divisive and brings out the worst in people. It is sad that some people can not imagine that someone of another political ideology could actually be a human being twith whom they might have something in common.

          I actually met Michelle Malkin in person last year and she is really nice person if you can get her off the subject matter of politics. She agreed with me when I said I wanted to sue the Massachusetts DOE and she would do the same if it were her child.

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 3, 2010 at 8:31 PM

          By Ank Mie’s own admission, she’s weird and radical.

          And based on what I’ve read, Abagond is generally a standoffish and austere person.

          So while I see what you’re saying, I don’t exactly think that I’d want to take either of them to a Giant’s game.

          (by the way, Giants are in the playoffs! Kick ass!)

  30. Robert Lindsay
    October 3, 2010 at 8:10 PM

    Yeah, I wouldn’t mind having a drink with Tulio or ES at a bar either.

    Abagond or Ank Mie, on the other hand…

    Not only is their ideology radical, but they just seem like unpleasant people in general.

    I have spoken with Abagond on instant messenger here on the Net. It was not a very pleasant conversation. I got the feeling that he thought I was a terrible racist and he was disgusted and annoyed to even be talking to me. I called him on some of his stuff. I asked him why he wanted to be so angry all the time. He told me essentially that he didn’t want to have fun in life. He just wanted to rant and rave about this racist crap for the rest of his life as some kind of righteous project. Whatever dude.

    The conversation was so unpleasant that I removed him from my messenger list so I didn’t have to talk to him anymore. That’s why I don’t go over there and argue. I know he doesn’t like me. Thad doesn’t either, neither does Ank, and I imagine those other Black women don’t either. I don’t enjoy being a human pinata.

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 3, 2010 at 8:21 PM

      I don’t enjoy being a human pinata.
      :)

      Good one!

      I don’t know, I really don’t mind Thad. He cuts through a lot of the black bullshit over at Abagond. I actually agree with a decent amount of what he says.

      Of course, I would hate to disagree with him on anything, because he can be a condescending prick when you disagree with him. He does seem to have an “I’m the professor, you’re the ignorant students who need to read books” kind of attitude.

      Well, I guess being a scholar comes with the territory.

      I wonder if other professors are like him?

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 3, 2010 at 8:23 PM

      Oops, I thought you sarcastically were saying that you do enjoy being a human pinata. I carelessly read that.

      In that case, I withdraw my smiley face and sarcastic retort. I didn’t intend that to be a snide and insulting remark.

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 3, 2010 at 8:27 PM

      But yeah, don’t be a human pinata. If people are giving you shit just because you’re white and don’t agree with everything they say, fuck it.

      Abagond’s a piece of shit, simple as that. He assigns ridiculously high moral standards to whites, which he is neither willing nor able to live up to himself.

      In fact, several times, he’s been rightfully attacked as a sexist and homophobic pig. And has he himself admitted, he is blind to his male “privilege,” and that people just don’t care about injustices that don’t affect them.

      So on the one hand, he expects whites to be outraged over what happens to blacks both here and abroad, and yet he couldn’t care less about the struggles of women, gays, etc. In fact, he recently wrote a post talking about the film “Hotel Rwanda” and how whites didn’t care enough about black life to intervene.

      Seriously, do you think that Abagond lost any sleep over the balkans bloodshed during the 90s? Do you think that he lost sleep over Israel’s barbaric Gaza invasion? Does he lose sleep over China’s occupation of Tibet?

      No. In fact, I’m willing to bet that he doesn’t even think about it.

      Abagond is an absolutist, self-righteous, hypocritical “I’m so much more moral than everyone else” piece of shit.

      I’m not going to get upset by what he says anymore.

      The only reason I go to Abagond now is to check out Thad’s comments, which are always interesting.

      • Bay Area Guy
        October 3, 2010 at 8:39 PM

        To be fair, Abagond has written ONE post on the Gaza war and did denounce the Israelis.

        But still, I hardly think that he loses much sleep over it.

  31. Robert Lindsay
    October 3, 2010 at 8:35 PM

    Yeah, I wouldn’t mind having a drink with Tulio or ES at a bar either.

    I wouldn’t mind having a drink with you either. I don’t agree with your politics, but you seem like a nice enough guy.

    Olive’s cool too. She seems like a good person.

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 3, 2010 at 8:40 PM

      Yeah, wouldn’t mind hanging out with you either. Even if we would disagree on a few things, you seem like a cool guy.

      Olive, Chic Noir, and Alpha seem all right too.

      Now FPY (wherever the hell he is), even if he does agree with me on a decent amount, I’d have to be careful in his presence, because he can get a bit unpleasant.

      • Robert Lindsay
        October 3, 2010 at 8:47 PM

        I always get the feeling that he might go postal.

      • Bay Area Guy
        October 3, 2010 at 8:52 PM

        He does seem pretty unstable. I don’t say this as a cheap shot or insult. I think that FPY’s a reasonably intelligent guy with a good head on his shoulders.

        He’s just a bit on edge and I fear that one day, somebody’s going to say or do the wrong thing to him and all hell will break loose.

        I wonder where is, by the way?

  32. Bay Area Guy
    October 4, 2010 at 4:57 PM

    Ooh, flame war between Thad and everyone else, starting with this comment and going on down!

    Damn, and black women wonder why men regard them as unpleasant, rude, sassy, etc…

    http://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/09/22/africans-sold-their-own-people-as-slaves/#comment-66740

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 4, 2010 at 5:08 PM

      I especially love this comment.

      http://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/09/22/africans-sold-their-own-people-as-slaves/#comment-66799

      Lol! Those snarky black women (Natasha, Jasmin, Ank Mie, etc) have all met their match in Thad!

    • tulio
      October 5, 2010 at 7:10 PM

      Why are you bringing this here instead of on Abagond? Why are you so obsessed with Abagond’s site anyway? I might read his site once every 2 weeks. You seem to be constantly on it.

      • Robert Lindsay
        October 5, 2010 at 8:42 PM

        I almost *never* go to Abagond’s site. I am proud to say that I *hate* that site, I can’t stand Abagond, and I despise almost everyone over there.

        That said, I don’t really think about them that much. They’re just a bunch of stupid Black fools with some of their silly pet Whites and pet Asians thrown in. That site is ridiculous, it’s offensive, and it’s pointless. Why read it?

        My life is not so great, to be honest. I feel like I have a million problems. Sites like Abagond’s just make me pissed off and it seems like they just create more problems and crap in my world. At this point, I’m trying to minimize the negative and shitty stuff in my life. That site just puts me in a bad mood and makes me mad. Why bother? I got better things to do. They never talk about anything sensible over there anyway.

        • chic noir
          October 5, 2010 at 9:01 PM

          robbert I’m trying to minimize the negative and shitty stuff in my life.

          that’s the best way to be. and that includes with shitty people.

          so robert why are you being so quite tonight huh?

          I like it when you communicate more.

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 5, 2010 at 7:15 PM

      Well, what’s funny is that I actually HADN’T been reading it.

      However, when I brought up that white bashers claim that whites are uniquely evil, Lafleur linked me to a post by Abagond which claimed that African slavery wasn’t as bad as European slavery.

      So, don’t blame me, blame Lafleur. ;-)

      But no, I’m not even angry. I just find these black radicals amusing now. They’re good entertainment.

      Also, Thad’s debates are always worth the visit!

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 5, 2010 at 7:17 PM

      And as to why I bring it here, because I don’t feel like starting a flame war with Abagond and his ilk.

      If they want to challenge and refute me, they know where to find me.

      I refuse to comment on any anti-racist black blog anymore. If these blacks want to take me on, they’re going to have to do so on my home floor.

      (ie. a blog by a white guy who’s not sympathetic to Critical Race Theory)

      • chic noir
        October 5, 2010 at 9:21 PM

        BAG If these people want to take me on, they’re going to have to do so on my home floor.

        *BAG musters up all the swag of Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now*

        tell’em boo!

        *chic noir stomps foot*

      • Bay Area Guy
        October 5, 2010 at 10:21 PM

        Yeah, I’ve got fire in the belly! Look out!

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 5, 2010 at 7:18 PM

      Not trying to get you into the doghouse or anything, Lafleur! :)

  33. Bay Area Guy
    October 4, 2010 at 5:09 PM

    I mean, seriously, who needs entertaining literature when you have this? :)

  34. Bay Area Guy
    October 4, 2010 at 5:22 PM

    Wow, the nerve Natasha has.

    http://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/09/20/bethany-storro/#comment-66630

    She’s a real bitch attacking Eurasian’s views on account that he’s the product of a White male/Asian female relationship when she herself is with a white man.

    I don’t even get upset with this stuff anymore. I find the lunacy of these blacks hilarious!

    Lawd help these negroes!

      • LaFleur
        October 5, 2010 at 11:08 AM

        I would say lawd help any alliance between identity fetishists that have zero in common beyond hating whitey.

        One phenomenon I’ve noticed in the CRT blogosphere is Asian Americans and Canadians like Zuky, Tamara Nopper and Restructure! who use CRT dogma to obscure the history of Asian colonialism and boost their own victim status. They bend over backwards to align themselves with the struggles of black people, native Americans and Mexicans and prove that they’re no “model minority.”

        This Chinese-American blogger named Zuky would be right at home on the latest Abagond thread about slavery:

        http://zuky.tumblr.com/post/1234334709/maybe-its-because-im-white#notes

        White people invaded Hawaii, colonized it through the murderous barbarism common to all white supremacist colonialism around the world, and then claim to be oppressed victims of racism because the natives are the majority (i.e. the colonized outnumber the colonizers) and sometimes even appear to carry hostility toward their colonizers (i.e. white supremacism always attempts to pre-empt resistance against white supremacism by declaring resistance out of line — which brings us back to the original post).

        For people like Zuky, “white supremacist colonialism” is the gift that keeps on giving. It renders all other colonialism irrelevant. There’s no behavior you can’t excuse or omit because of it.

        Native Hawaiians, of course, are not the majority there. They are decisively outnumbered by Filipinos and Japanese. Aside from the immediate post-WWII period, when did white people occupy or colonize Japan? What of Japanese imperialism? Some of the Asian CRT contingent use the focus on European colonialism to obfuscate the history of intra-Asian colonialism and conflict. The CRT narrative of monolithic white oppression and privilege serves the personal will to power of many people who are already affluent.

        Even though Zuky’s family moved from Taiwan to East Africa to the US, and he himself just moved to Canada, he is exempt from “settler” status simply on account of being non-white.

        I find Zuky’s rationalization of certain aspects of Hip Hop culture hilarious:

        http://zuky.tumblr.com/post/1249256951/dopegirlfresh-im-gonna-be-him-for-halloween#notes

        Having said that, being rich off cocaine seems cleaner in my eyes than being wealthy off colonialism/imperialism.

        Like many people in the CRT blogosphere, Zuky has a religious belief in the unique evil of white people and Western culture:

        http://restruct.tumblr.com/post/687530625/my-off-the-cuff-theory-is-that-there-is-a

        One attribute you’ll notice about whiteness is its propensity to self-project its own barbarism onto all others. In other words, I believe the reason white people are afraid that people of color would murder and enslave white people if they could, is that this is exactly what white people would do and actually have done. White people think everybody else on Earth is as rapacious and dehumanized as themselves, which is indeed a scary thought.

        I never see any mention on his blog of
        China’s postwar incursions into its surrounding countries or its current role in the African land grab. In fact, there seem to be no mentions of any POC-committed atrocities, whether it’s most of the modern slave trade or Japanese aggression against Korea and China. The more extreme CRT folks have moved beyond examining European racism and imperialism to pathologizing all white people, period.

        As far as I can tell, this anti-white solidarity exists mainly in a certain wing of the blogosphere. How long do you suppose an alliance of people like Restructure!, Zuky, Nezua and Abagond would last in the real world?

        • Robert Lindsay
          October 5, 2010 at 4:46 PM

          Great comment, La Fleur! I love this stuff. I have nothing to add! You said it all for me kiddo. Touche!

          This whole Identity Politics White People are uniquely evil stuff is so ridiculous! Do you think any anthropologist or political scientist would even consider such an absurd theory? Of course not, that’s why this nonsense is relegated to the backrooms of African American Studies, Chicano Studies, Sociology, Lit and and other silly places. I would say mostly in sociology!

          I really don’t understand why so many Western Marxists think that way. It’s so idiotic.

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 5, 2010 at 5:35 PM

          Do you think any anthropologist or political scientist would even consider such an absurd theory?

          I took an anthropology course on race, science, and disease, where we discussed racism, racial science, etc.

          The professor was a reasonable Hispanic guy and didn’t subscribe to any of this “whites are all evil and pathological” nonsense.

          And of course, Thad (Who I know you don’t like) is also an anthropologist and anti-racist, and you don’t see him subscribing to this “whites are uniquely evil” nonsense. In fact, you should see his numerous debates over at Abagond! (Which I’ve kindly linked to)

          I like anthropologists. They seem to know what’s going on and refuse to be suckered in by this radical CRT nonsense.

          Most of this mumbo jumbo and hogwash, as you’ve pointed out, comes from Sociology, African American/Chicano Studies, minority literature courses, etc, all of which I regard as bunk academic disciplines. I honestly don’t understand why Sociology even exists as an academic discipline.

          I once attended a panel on the One State vs. Two State solution regarding the Israel/Palestine conflict, and one of the professors there was UCI’s (my university) main Sociology professors, and he didn’t even address the conflict and talked about American workers, racism in France, and the pathology of patriotism. He even said (in other words), “I was invited to the wrong lecture.”

          @ Lafleur

          There’s a reason why you’re one of this blog’s best commenters!

          You know what’s so ironic about this whole “whites are inhumane and ‘people of color’ are humane and caring” nonsense?

          This whole notion that humanity was all peaches and cream before we wicked whites showed up is (as pointed out by Thad) ROMANTICISM, which is a EUROPEAN philosophy.

          And yeah, I find it funny how these Asian revolutionaries don’t know a ton about actual Asian history.

          Perhaps events such as the Rape of Nanking, Bataan Death March, Khmer Rouge, even medieval events such as the 16th century Japanese invasion of Korea (where the Japanese brought back cut-off Korean ears and noses to Japan) Genghis Khan, etc, all somehow manage to elude them.

          You see, even if I weren’t pro-white, I wouldn’t buy this crap because the record of world history simply doesn’t substantiate it.

          All human groups have acted like assholes, and exploited others in the process.

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 5, 2010 at 5:37 PM

          I might also add that much of this nonsense can also come from Law professors and legal studies/legal theory.

          Frank Wu, for instance.

          (although compared to other Critical Race Theorists, he’s pretty reasonable)

          You don’t see too much of this Critical Race Theorist dogma coming from historians, political scientists, anthropologists, and other serious scholars.

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 5, 2010 at 5:38 PM

          Oh, I guess I should also add journalism.

          (think Robert Jensen)

          And yeah, Tim Wise may have majored in political science at Tulane, but he’s NO political scientist or serious scholar of any sort.

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 5, 2010 at 6:23 PM

          I find those extreme Asian Critical Race Theorists, as well as aggrieved white Hispanics such as Rick Sanchez the most amusing.

          In their view, being “people of color” means that they can understand black people and somehow have the same experiences as blacks.

          You see, “people of color” really just means blacks and those such as Zuky and Nezua who tag along with them.

          As Thad pointed out, this essential “people of color” experience just always happens to resemble that of anglo blacks.

          But anyway, to reiterate, someone ought to teach these Zuky types a little Asian history.

        • tulio
          October 5, 2010 at 7:25 PM

          It makes no sense to me that someone like Rick Sanchez calls himself a minority. So anyone in America that isn’t of pure N. European heritage is a minority? Is Rudy Guiliani a minority because he’s Italian? I’m getting sick of white Hispanics calling themselves minorities because they have a Spanish last name. These same white Hispanics are pretty fucking racist back in their home countries. So where do they get off acting like they are oppressed by the man over here? Oh, my last name is “Sanchez” therefore I’m non-white! Fucking idiots.

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 5, 2010 at 7:27 PM

          It makes no sense to me that someone like Rick Sanchez calls himself a minority. So anyone in America that isn’t of pure N. European heritage is a minority? Is Rudy Guiliani a minority because he’s Italian? I’m getting sick of white Hispanics calling themselves minorities because they have a Spanish last name. These same white Hispanics are pretty fucking racist back in their home countries. So where do they get off acting like they are oppressed by the man over here? Oh, my last name is “Sanchez” therefore I’m non-white! Fucking idiots.

          Thank you! If nothing else, this is the one thing I’ll agree with you on today.

          I mean, yeah, if his name were Rick Smith, he would just be seen as an average white guy.

          Hey, I guess I can just dye my hair brown, give myself a Hispanic surname, and I too can be an “oppressed minority.” Sweet! ;-)

          Let me put it this way: Rick Sanchez is as “Latino” as Hernan Cortez.

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 5, 2010 at 7:30 PM

          And yeah, back in their home countries, they are pretty damn racist and are also the elites.

          So they get to be elites back home, and aren’t a visible minority in the states, and yet when it suits them, they get to pull out the “oppressed minority” card.

          I agree with you fully on this one, Tulio.

          Not too surprisingly, I also get pissed when Jews do the same thing.

          (like the way Tim Wise plays the Jewish card when he wants to act as if he understands oppression on account of being from an oppressed group)

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 5, 2010 at 7:33 PM

          Oh, and speaking of that, one of my co-workers (a white Hispanic) keeps getting upset and saying, “I always get mistaken for a different race. People think I’m white!”

          He’s a good friend (and generally a good guy), so I wouldn’t do this, but a part of me just wants to say, “well yeah, you ARE fucking white.”

          Maybe it hasn’t occurred to him that there are white Hispanics, and that Spain is a country in EUROPE.

          I think one white nationalist (hey, you can actually agree with a WN on SOMETHING!) said it best when critiquing Rick Sanchez’s pathetic attempt to play the victimization game: “Having a Spanish surname doesn’t make you oppressed; having brown skin makes Hispanics ‘oppressed.’ Rick Sanchez is as ‘Latino’ as Christina Aguilera. “

        • tulio
          October 5, 2010 at 7:42 PM

          White Hispanics in the U.S. do this all the time. I don’t think they do it back in their home countries. In Latin America, everyone is all caught up on trying to pass for white. No guy in S. America that looks like Rick Sanchez would consider himself non-white.

          My only guess is that they define whiteness as something sociological rather than racial. And in the U.S. white means of Anglo/Germanic or other N. European heritage. They are essentially Nordicists. Even though I’m black, I agree with Robert’s concept of Pan-Aryanism. It sounds very simple and sensible. Basically if you look white you are white.

          Now they may also in part see themselves as “minorities” because immigration from Latin America is controversial issue and having a Spanish surname and speaking Spanish in America might mark you as an outsider of the nation’s Anglo roots. So in that sense, I guess they could be minorities, but they are sure as hell not minorities in any racial sense.

    • Natasha W
      October 18, 2010 at 11:16 AM

      How did I know if I found my way over here, you’d be mentioning my name, YET AGAIN?

      Your obsession with me, abagond, and other commenters on that blog is beyond measure at this point. You probably refresh every 5 minutes looking for comments.

      By the way, you’re the bitch. If you have something to say to me, address it to me. Bitch.

      • Natasha W
        October 18, 2010 at 11:17 AM

        To Bay Area Guy, the angst-ridden teenager.

      • tulio
        October 18, 2010 at 9:36 PM

        BAG’s behavior is becoming deplorable. “Negress?” Really?? I think I know what you really wanted to say. You attacked her first, she did not direct any racial insults to you.

      • tulio
        October 18, 2010 at 11:26 PM

        Really? So if a black person calls you an asshole, a non-racial insult, you will fire back with a racial insult? Think about what you are doing. When you make a racial insult, you are now by definition involving everyone who happens to share that person’s racial ancestry. Asshole offends no one but the target. It would be like you calling me a dick for something I did or said, then in turn I decide to insult your family, automatically bringing them into the dispute when they had nothing to do with it. Racial insults are like family insults, but on a larger scale. It’s just wrong, period. I don’t know what kind of person would even want to do that anyway. Even if someone of another race hurled a racial epithet at me, I wouldn’t respond back by hurling one at his entire ethnic group. How does that make me any better?

        I also have believe having yelling matches over the internet is pretty fucking lame. My rule is I never say something to someone over the internet that I wouldn’t say to their face if they were sitting in my living room.

      • Bay Area Guy
        October 18, 2010 at 11:39 PM

        Tulio, normally I would adopt your approach and not fire back with racial insults and generally embrace a more level headed attitude.

        But for confrontational blacks, I’ll make an exception.

        Note that I don’t do this for ALL blacks, mind you. Rather those anti-racist, edgy types.

        Racial insults are like family insults, but on a larger scale.

        I just find that interesting coming from you.

        You kind of seem to be implicitly agreeing with WN’s that race = family, that we all have a duty to our race, etc.

        I’m sure that’s not what you meant, but I couldn’t help but notice that.

        Even if someone of another race hurled a racial epithet at me, I wouldn’t respond back by hurling one at his entire ethnic group. How does that make me any better?

        Really? Well, I guess you’re at least being honest, since you didn’t retaliate when FPY called you a jig.

        (by the way, where is that guy anyhow?)

        I just think you’re a little unique in that regard. I and certainly most other non-whites aren’t like you in this regard. Believe me.

        I also have believe having yelling matches over the internet is pretty fucking lame. My rule is I never say something to someone over the internet that I wouldn’t say to their face if they were sitting in my living room.

        Tulio, as a general rule of thumb, I don’t think that most people who comment on internet blogs are the types who talk similar crap to people in real life.

        Think about it. Why would they need to have these conversations in the FIRST PLACE? Obviously, they feel more comfortable saying things on the internet than they do in real life.

        And yeah, flame wars are a big part of internet life.

        If you don’t like it, well then, reform the internet or don’t chat with people online, I don’t know.

      • Lookingforanswers
        October 19, 2010 at 3:56 AM

        I usually choose not to get involved with exchanges like this but tulio brings up an interesting point. Is using a racial slur against one person like using it against an entire people? Robert, this may be an interesting new post to start.

        BAG, I must admit, whenever I hear a White person use a derogatory racial slur toward someone Black, I cringe a bit. I do. Maybe because I know all that the word carries in meaning and history. At the same time, motive and intent must come into play again. If you did not mean it that way, then why should I take it that way? Maybe a White person using it doesn’t always invoke the full history of its meaning to him/her. Maybe it’s just meant to be an insult without the history and broader application to an entire people. That plus the fact that the GBC uses it all the time weakens my argument I think even in my own mind.

        Just know though that the CBC does not use that word very often (if at all) or so freely. This is where cultural sensitivity and self-imposed standards come into play. Even if you didn’t mean it toward all Blacks, now knowing the CBC feels that way, I’m thinking that a halfway decent guy who understands that would refrain, even if he didn’t mean it that way. I’m not a censorship or PC guy. I’m not. But I am into standards.

        Whites in this country should try to understand that certain things may be off-limits to them even if not off-limits to others simply because of the role their ancestor’s played in this country’s history. While Whites today are not in any way responsible for slavery many years ago, they still benefit from the advantages it created and perpetuated through the years. Whites should understand that using such derogatory phrases reflect a callousness about that reality and in a sense implicates them because it projects an agreement with what has happened over the years. I know it’s a lot to attach to just one word but it is how it’s viewed outside of the White Culture.

      • tulio
        October 19, 2010 at 2:49 PM

        “Maybe a White person using it doesn’t always invoke the full history of its meaning to him/her. Maybe it’s just meant to be an insult without the history and broader application to an entire people.”

        Put it this way, if a black guy and a white guy were on the street yelling at each other about to fight and the fight was the fault of the black guy, I would jump in on the side of the white guy. But if the white guy then blurted out the word nigger or some other racial slur, I’d instantly lose all sympathy and jump on the black dude’s side. The second he said a racial slur, he’s just offended me and made me into an enemy and I can no longer defend him.

      • Robert Lindsay
        October 20, 2010 at 6:00 AM

        Look Natasha, if you don’t end all this incessant feuding with other commenters, I’m going to have to ban you, ok?

  35. chic noir
    October 5, 2010 at 7:48 PM

    hey guys, I have a post up that’s write on target with this line of thinking.

    http://chicnoirhouse.blogspot.com/2010_10_05_archive.html#6569033105875761919

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 5, 2010 at 7:56 PM

      Hmmm, what does that have to do with Rick Sanchez?

      Aside from your NAM statement, I didn’t see any analysis regarding white Hispanic types.

      • chic noir
        October 5, 2010 at 8:26 PM

        It’s about the tribal ness of human beings. the whites of europe don’t see themselves as one big happy family.

        rick sanchez is very nice looking for an older man, he has sex appeal that just sizzles on screen. some men are like that,a few small number though. You can just look at them and feel your body come alive.

        his skin is too dark for him to call himself white. I’m sure if he sat out in the hot August sun he would tan as dark as I.

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 5, 2010 at 8:29 PM

          his skin is too dark for him to call himself white

          No, that’s just not true. Whites do not have to be as pale as a Swede to qualify as white.

          Trust me, if I were to look at him and not know that his name were Sanchez, I would see him as just another white guy.

          I still see him as white, in spite of his Sanchez surname. I mean, where did the Spaniards come from?

        • chic noir
          October 5, 2010 at 8:56 PM

          bag Trust me, if I were to look at him and not know that his name were Sanchez, I would see him as just another white guy.

          when you couple his skin color with his eye, hair color along with the shapes of his features, he ain’t white to me.

          You don’t have to be a white as a Swede, who aren’t all that white in skin color btw, to be white. It’s a combination of features.

          rick is more racially ambiguous looking. he’s the type you see in commercials and on TV. Ever notice how few blonde men are on TV & movies now?

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 5, 2010 at 8:59 PM

          Sorry Chic Noir, but I have to disagree on this one.

          So would Tulio and a few others.

          Sanchez is white. C’mon, be honest. If you didn’t know that his surname were Sanchez, and if he were named Rick Smith, you would have said he was white.

          C’mon! :)

        • Robert Lindsay
          October 5, 2010 at 9:20 PM

          Ridiculous. Of course he’s White. All Caucasians are White, pretty much. Caucasian = White. White people can have pretty dark skin you know.

        • tulio
          October 6, 2010 at 1:46 AM

          http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2010/10/01/rick-sanchez.jpg

          Really?? What parallel universe do you have to live in to think this guy is non-white? How does having the surname “Sanchez” magically transform him into a non-white?

          The confusion about race in this country is frustrating.

        • tulio
          October 6, 2010 at 1:55 AM

          Speaking of Argentines, does anyone else find it kinda funny when left-wingers try to darken Che Guevara’s features so that he looks like a mestizo?

          http://www.audioeditions.com/audio-book-images/l/Che-Guevara-303991.jpg

        • LaFleur
          October 6, 2010 at 6:34 AM

          Che Lynch doesn’t have the same ring, does it? :D

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 6, 2010 at 8:36 AM

          The confusion about race in this country is frustrating.

          Tell me about it.

          I guess that’s the psychological legacy of the One Drop Rule manifesting itself, which is uniquely a U.S. phenomenon.

          Thad also once asked why Americans are so obsessed with “identity” and then proceeded to hint that it had to do with the fact that we’re a nation of immigrants. I think there’s a lot of truth to that.

          But yeah, I’m with you 100% on this one.

          Chic Noir, you make good contributions, but I don’t know where you get the idea that Sanchez is non-white.

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 6, 2010 at 8:38 AM

          I took a course on Mexican history and the professor didn’t exactly have a high opinion of Che.

          I think Che just has that iconic image. I highly doubt that most people sporting Che attire really know much about him or his history.

          Granted, I’m hardly an expert on Che either, but you don’t see me wearing Che shirts, do you?

  36. Bay Area Guy
    October 5, 2010 at 7:54 PM

    White Hispanics in the U.S. do this all the time.

    Bingo, like my co-worker illustrates. So do white looking Middle Easterners such as Armenians.

    In Latin America, everyone is all caught up on trying to pass for white. No guy in S. America that looks like Rick Sanchez would consider himself non-white.

    Absolutely. J-Lo would be white in Latin America.

    My only guess is that they define whiteness as something sociological rather than racial. And in the U.S. white means of Anglo/Germanic or other N. European heritage. They are essentially Nordicists.

    They are Noridcists to a certain extent. And I agree that they do probably see whiteness as a sociological as opposed to racial definition.

    For example, I had a Hispanic friend (Peruvian) in high school who claimed that Italians weren’t white, just because they had olive skin and were not Northern European.

    At the same time, I do think that at least from a white American perspective, Italian Americans and Greek Americans (of which I’m half) are indeed considered white. As you’ve pointed out, Rudy Guliani and Michael Dukakis are not minorities simply because they’re of Southern European descent.

    I too agree with pan-Aryanism. If you look white, you are white. Therefore, in my book, Ralph Nader and Helen Thomas are white, even though they’re of Lebanese Arabic extraction.

    Now they may also in part see themselves as “minorities” because immigration from Latin America is controversial issue and having a Spanish surname and speaking Spanish in America might mark you as an outsider of the nation’s Anglo roots.

    I don’t agree with that. I think that race plays the primary role. If a bunch of middle class people from Argentina and Chile were moving here as opposed to a bunch of poor and uneducated mestizos from Mexico, this wouldn’t be much of an issue.

    Spanish surnames are not the issue.

    they are sure as hell not minorities in any racial sense.

    Bingo.

    Though to be fair, I did know a couple of white Hispanics (including an Argentine) who did classify themselves as white.

    Well, Argentines had better! Heck, they called themselves “the only white country in the Western hemisphere” throughout their history.

    • chic noir
      October 5, 2010 at 8:13 PM

      BAGAbsolutely. J-Lo would be white in Latin America.

      not before the nose job and blow- out.

    • chic noir
      October 5, 2010 at 8:16 PM

      Well, Argentines had better! Heck, they called themselves “the only white country in the Western hemisphere” throughout their history

      Italians

      too many brown haired brown eyed people in argentine for them to really be white. They are white with an asterick.

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 5, 2010 at 8:19 PM

      But then again, that’s only if you’re a nordicist.

      (ie. only Northern Europeans with blond hair and blue eyes are white)

      People with brown hair and brown eyes are also white.

      • chic noir
        October 5, 2010 at 8:22 PM

        kind of yes. that’s why I say with an asterick.

        when you have brown hair and brown eyes, it becomes harder to tell you apart from everyone else. You just sort of blend in.

  37. chic noir
    October 5, 2010 at 8:16 PM

    Bag are you half Italian?

  38. chic noir
    October 5, 2010 at 8:23 PM

    you like thick girls???

    You shouldn’t be having problems with women. I think greek guys have a natural swag, at least Italians(real not american) do for sure.

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 5, 2010 at 8:27 PM

      you like thick girls???

      No, not really.

      You shouldn’t be having problems with women. I think greek guys have a natural swag, at least Italians(real not american) do for sure.

      Well, maybe Greek guys in Greece, but not Greek Americans. At least not in my family. My grandfather was super shy and had trouble getting girls.

      Besides, the WASP side of me ultimately prevailed, as I’m sure will surprise you!

      • chic noir
        October 5, 2010 at 8:44 PM

        I like shy men for some reason.

        are you shy?

      • Bay Area Guy
        October 5, 2010 at 9:02 PM

        Yes and no.

        I am a bit shy, naturally.

        However, I have progressed since my dark middle school and early high school days.

        I can interact with, joke with, and flirt with girls just fine. I’m actually not bad at starting up conversations with girls, even attractive ones!

        (although I have problems with ending conversations. Accidentally and subconsciously, after they say good bye, I say “all right” at times. In a friendly way, but sometimes in conversations I’ve gotten used to saying all right, so it made me look bad in that instance).

        I’m mixed socially. I’m funny, can talk about a lot, can interact well, etc, but I sometimes get uncomfortable in social situations/don’t want to greet certain people/want to remain incognito.

        So you could say that I’m shy, but once I get going, I’m good.

  39. chic noir
    October 5, 2010 at 8:43 PM

    BAG
    No, not really.

    ah, another sterotype goes down. Sterotype of greek men is they like thick women. You know the def of thick &phat right. cause you’re a hip-hop head.

    I’m talking women who are built like amber rose and ki-toy.

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 5, 2010 at 8:57 PM

      Yeah, that’s funny, even in the Bay with all the slang, I never really heard women referred to as “thick.”

      So yes, I responded quickly, of course subconsciously thinking that thick meant somewhat chunky, etc.

      Mea culpa on my part.

      I like women who are SOMEWHAT thick. Nice legs, slender, and yet not twigs.

      Rebecca Romijn, Gabrielle Union, Naomi Watts (at least in the past), Roselyn Sanchez.

      Those are the types of women that I like.

  40. Robert Lindsay
    October 5, 2010 at 9:19 PM

    so robert why are you being so quite tonight huh?

    I like it when you communicate more

    Dunno, sorry, I have just been apathetic lately. That’s why I’m not writing much either. Just really tired and feel like I don’t care LOL. Sorry about that…Right now I’m just drinking ha hahahahahahaha!

    • LaFleur
      October 5, 2010 at 9:26 PM

      What’s your poison? Mine is red wine and beer.

      • Robert Lindsay
        October 5, 2010 at 9:28 PM

        I’m drinking red wine right now. Red Rose to be exact. I usually drink Red Rose, Sangria and White Zinfandel. That’s kind of lame, but I’m broke so hey. Plus they taste pretty damn good!

      • chic noir
        October 5, 2010 at 9:28 PM

        anything with strawberry

        robert you be easy on that liquor.

        alpha unit should be there to keep your company.

        • Robert Lindsay
          October 5, 2010 at 9:34 PM

          robert you be easy on that liquor.

          No.

          Actually, I generally only have a couple of glasses, but I’m such a lightweight anymore, a couple of glasses of wine gets me kind of drunk. Which is weird.

          I’m a big drug fan too, but I don’t do them much anymore.

          Narcotics sure sound like fun though. I’d love to get my hands on some narcotic pills or even some opium. I’d smoke the opium. That would be so cool. I’m through with most of the other stuff, but narcotics sound like a blast at my age. Every now and then I get my hands on some Codeine and I just love it.

        • chic noir
          October 5, 2010 at 9:37 PM

          Narcotics sure sound like fun though. I’d love to get my hands on some narcotic pills or even some opium. I’d smoke the opium. That would be so cool. I’m through with most of the other stuff, but narcotics sound like a blast at my age. Every now and then I get my hands on some Codeine and I just love it.

          alpha come get your man!

  41. chic noir
    October 5, 2010 at 9:26 PM

    BAG Sanchez is white. C’mon, be honest. If you didn’t know that his surname were Sanchez, and if he were named Rick Smith, you would have said he was white.

    C’mon

    no really, i would think he would check the other box.

    Ridiculous. Of course he’s White. All Caucasians are White, pretty much. Caucasian = White. White people can have pretty dark skin you know
    yea but the darker whites look different and can pass as other groups.

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 5, 2010 at 10:18 PM

      no really, i would think he would check the other box.

      Yeah, so he can still be seen as white, but when he wants to play the “oppressed minority” card, he can do so.

      This is purely cynical identity politics on the part of these white Hispanics who claim to be oppressed minorities.

  42. Robert Lindsay
    October 6, 2010 at 1:56 PM

    Granted, I’m hardly an expert on Che either, but you don’t see me wearing Che shirts, do you?

    I have a Che tshirt. I actually wear it a lot too. Some of the Mexicans around here really dig it. He’s one of their heroes. But I think most of them don’t have the faintest idea of who he is. Nor do the Whites or Blacks. I used to wear it around the White towns in the foothills, and no one knew who he was up there either. I was always explaining to people who he was. People are so ignorant, I swear.

    I used to have an FMLN tshirt too. They were the armed group in El Salvador. I had a big red star on it. My Mom used to hate that shirt! I was working as a paralegal at the time and this one attorney used to really like that shirt. He smiled every time he saw it. Criminal defense attorney. Dude made like $350,000/yr. and he was a Leftist. People are funny.

  43. chic noir
    October 6, 2010 at 6:26 PM

    BAG Chic Noir, you make good contributions, but I don’t know where you get the idea that Sanchez is non-white.

    I’m telling you bag, with all that browness I when I look at him I don’t think white in the way that Americans think white.

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 6, 2010 at 10:04 PM

      Sorry Chic Noir, but I’m not seeing all that “browness.”

      If by “white,” you mean completely pale, blond hair and blue eyes, then okay.

      But otherwise, no. I don’t think that I or most whites Americans subscribe to a nordicist definition of white.

      Tulio, FG, and Robert concur with me. Of course, logically speaking, I should note that popularity doesn’t make an argument correct.

      I just don’t see how you find Sanchez non-white. Is Jorge Ramos also not white?

      • Robert Lindsay
        October 7, 2010 at 1:14 AM

        If you go to White nationalist sites other than Stormfront, at least 80% and possibly many more of them are out and out Nordicists. Even American Renaissance is running some really outrageous Nordicist BS lately such as that the ancient Romans and Greeks were really Nordics, Germans I guess. And there’s been other stuff too. Jared Taylor says he’s not a Nordicist, but he sure acts like one.

        The White Supremacist movement in the US has been Nordicist forever. But I don’t think that represents real Whites in the US, which is one more reason this movement is FAIL.

        • Uncle Milton
          October 9, 2010 at 10:16 PM

          To Rob:

          The White Supremacist movement in the US has been Nordicist forever. But I don’t think that represents real Whites in the US, which is one more reason this movement is FAIL.

          That reminded me of the movie The Vikings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vikings_(1958_film) which starred Tony Curtis and Kirk Douglas (Jewish..) and Ernest Ernest Borgnine (Italian..) and was directed by Richard Fleischer (Jewish..) I think they were actually yelling Moses! in the film and later over dubbed with Odin!.

      • chicnoir
        October 9, 2010 at 6:33 PM

        I take back what I said about sanchez being attractive. I think I confused him with the darker guy on FOX.

        Yes, it looks like he could be half white and something else. another give away is the shape of his head .

        But otherwise, no. I don’t think that I or most whites Americans subscribe to a nordicist definition of white.
        that’s because so few of you are.

        BAG, let me tell you this… when I was in the Netherlands,Paris, and Sweden it became apparent to me that White Americans have now become a seperate ethnic group.

  44. FG
    October 6, 2010 at 7:02 PM

    It seems to me that Rick Sanchez could pass for a plain old Anglo white American. He doesn’t even have that slightly mixed look that many of the Latin American whites have (e.g. Gloria Estefan).

  45. Bay Area Guy
    October 7, 2010 at 4:11 PM

    Lol! Bro Nathanael at it again. He’s always worth listening to, that’s for sure!

    • Gay State Girl
      October 9, 2010 at 8:35 PM

      Whats up with the mountains in the background? I’ve seen it in every video he has made. It seems as if he is trying to give the impression that he lives in a rural area and can relate to his “congregants.” This comes off as quite pretentious as he lives at Hellenic College Monastery in my hometown of Brookline, Massachusetts which is a very posh suburb.

    • Robert Lindsay
      October 9, 2010 at 8:48 PM

      Damn, he’s getting weirder and weirder man. What’s up with him, anyway? He seems like he’s going nuts.

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 9, 2010 at 9:33 PM

      Hmm, I always thought he lived in Colorado.

      I guess not.

      Well, yeah, he is a bit of a weirdo. He wouldn’t be so popular and entertaining otherwise!

  47. Gay State Girl
    October 9, 2010 at 8:16 PM

    Bay Area Guy
    This is an all time classic

    • Bay Area Guy
      October 9, 2010 at 9:36 PM

      LOL!

      *roars with laughter*

      Jews sure do have a good sense of humor! Nobody can ever take that away from them!

  48. Uncle Milton
    October 9, 2010 at 10:15 PM

    To BAG:

    Jews sure do have a good sense of humor! Nobody can ever take that away from them!

    I don’t really mind Rob’s occasional rants about Israel and Jews… however he once had a post about Jews not having a sense of humor… Blasphemy! I had the phone in my hand calling the JDL, which were ready to fly into Madera to cap his ass. Luckily after I watched a few Marx Brothers clips I calmed down.

  49. Bay Area Guy
    October 13, 2010 at 1:24 PM

    Rahm Emanuel and his media goons, despicable pieces of shit.

  50. Shawn
    October 18, 2010 at 2:54 PM

    What do you think of the whorist community? These are guys who don’t date but go spend $25-50 for a hooker. They are usually in Thailand & the Philippines. Google whorist if you are 18+

  51. johnUK
    October 21, 2010 at 2:30 PM

    Chimp Sueko attacks police car.

  53. Bay Area Guy
    October 25, 2010 at 12:27 AM

    Excellent masculinist youtube channel.

    I saw an excellent video about the so-called “glass ceiling” that women face (from this same channel), courtesy of Jew Among You (strangely the video isn’t on his site now).

    I think George Costanza said it best: “feminists want equality, but when the check comes, where are they?”

    Women want the good parts of equality (ie. the best jobs, the most money, etc), but they don’t want to be truly equal with men in the sense of also being equal to men in terms of bad stuff (ie. workplace deaths, dangerous jobs, military service, etc).

    Anyway, enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/user/manwomanmyth

  54. Bay Area Guy
    October 25, 2010 at 2:50 PM

    Lol! They really are a bilingual race!

    • chic noir
      October 25, 2010 at 6:48 PM

      that’s called code switching and this is one of the funniest videos ever.

      • Bay Area Guy
        October 25, 2010 at 11:28 PM

        Yes, I know about “code switching.”

        It’s funny. I recall watching this one commercial with an Asian buddy of mine, where a black woman was describing an exercise product, speaking with a very white accent.

        My Asian friend then says, “that’s hot how she really talks!” Good stuff.

        I guess certain blacks speak standard English when in my presence, and then bust out the ebonics among themselves.

        But yes, funny video.

      • tulio
        October 26, 2010 at 2:12 PM

        I’ve seen that video before. Had me in tears. So did this mishap really get broadcast live?

      • tulio
        October 26, 2010 at 2:16 PM

        I guess there’s a gay version of code switching too, lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9ORFOVDFjo

        • Matt
          October 26, 2010 at 2:21 PM

          That’s hilarious, although he seems pretty gay to me from the first second. There’s an anchor on one of the local news broadcasts where I live whom I’m certain is a real flamer off camera.

        • LaFleur
          October 26, 2010 at 2:21 PM

          Holy shit. I wouldn’t scream like that, and I HATE bugs.

        • Bay Area Guy
          October 26, 2010 at 5:31 PM

          ROFL!

          Wow, that’s just too much!

          Although that guy’s voice kinda sounded gay to begin with, even before he let his gayness slip.

  55. David
    October 25, 2010 at 6:46 PM

    George Soros, Wall Street Journal, Free the Weed:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303467004575574450703567656.html

    At long last the neoliberals, neoconservatives, communists, anarchocapitalists, socialists, liberals, and conservatives can join hands and rally round the banner of anti-prohibitionism.

  56. Bay Area Guy
    October 25, 2010 at 11:44 PM

    Looks like dishonest Abe Foxman has written a new book.

    http://www.amazon.com/Jews-Money-Story-Stereotype-ebook/dp/B0046A9M4K

    Yeah, I think he would know a thing or two about money.

  57. johnUK
    October 26, 2010 at 7:15 AM

    “The video you are watching shows footage of Arab Muslim Mujahideen (Odred El Mudzahidin) being brought into Bosnia on UN transports to carry out part of the Islamic war against the non-believers, in this case the Serbs.

    Formed under the orders of the Bosnian Presdient Alija Izetbegović, the Mudzahidin, also know as the ’7th Muslim brigade’ were a unit made up entirely of Muslim Arabs shipped over from the Islamic world to engage in the wider Jihad and to help establish Muslim states within Europe.”

  59. ski
    October 29, 2010 at 10:17 AM

    Some good clean ethnocentric positivity.

  60. tulio
    October 30, 2010 at 12:45 AM

    Hey BAG, is she enough to turn you away from WN?

    http://sosexysolei.com/images/solei16.jpg

  61. tulio
    November 1, 2010 at 5:25 PM

    I never heard of this movie until last night. It came out last year and they are currently working on a sequel. This is seriously some sick, twisted shit. Part of me wants to Netflix it just to see how awful a movie can get. The concept behind it really is disturbing to me.

  62. johnUK
    November 1, 2010 at 5:53 PM

    Avatar porn parody.

  63. johnUK
    November 1, 2010 at 6:05 PM

    Brando as US WN hero Rockwell in “ROOTS”.

  64. Gay State Girl
    November 1, 2010 at 10:51 PM

    Bay Area Guy and Tulio
    This is old but relevant.

  65. randy
    November 2, 2010 at 11:17 PM

    where the hell has Alpha been lately? need more Alpha.

    • Robert Lindsay
      November 2, 2010 at 11:28 PM

      She will be here soon, pancakes.

      I was just riding on her ass.

      She suffers from writer’s block, as many good writes do.

      What’s funny is that shitty writers often do not suffer from this. LOL. They just keep writing away in huge floods, oblivious to how terrible they are LOL.

    • Alpha Unit
      November 2, 2010 at 11:30 PM

      hello darlin’
      you’ve inspired me…

  66. tulio
    November 3, 2010 at 12:18 PM

    White guy goes crazy then gets tazed.

    • nobody
      November 3, 2010 at 1:37 PM

      lol @ the people refilling their sodas. He seemed incoherent. PTSD? Drugs?

      • randy
        November 3, 2010 at 2:51 PM

        yes that dude that got tazed had come back from Iraq or Afghanistan, so PTSD is possible.

        i want to know why you only really see fight videos that people take with their cellphones. surely somebody out there is making some homemade porno with their cell phones. i am sick of all these fight videos, i want to see some fucking.

        • randy
          November 3, 2010 at 2:52 PM

          the tattoo on his chest is an Army 4th Division sign, something like that. i only know because i read that on reddit.

  67. Bay Area Guy
    November 3, 2010 at 1:45 PM

    Interesting news.

    Thad got banned over at Abagond. This is my last time going to Abagond. Lately, Thad was all that made it interesting.

    Hey Robert, does that mean he’ll soon be coming here? ;-)

    • tulio
      November 3, 2010 at 1:47 PM

      Do you know why?

    • Robert Lindsay
      November 3, 2010 at 2:03 PM

      Dunno, but if he does, he will probably get banned. He’s one rude little bitch and he’s going to start mouthing off at me, you can bet on it.

    • Bay Area Guy
      November 3, 2010 at 4:06 PM

      Thad was getting into into a verbal sparring match with Menelik Charles.

      Apparently, Menelik Charles claimed to be an impending published author, and Thad mocked MC, asking him to put his money where his mouth is.

      Abagond then warned Thad not to talk about peoples’ personal lives, Thad proceeded once again to mock MC’s supposed publishing career, and Abagond then decided that was it.

      Too bad. He’s one of the few original voices on that blog.

  68. chicnoir
    November 3, 2010 at 6:28 PM

    Oh so you guys keep up with what’s going on over on abagonds?

    sitting over her gossiping like a bunch of women in the beauty shop.

    • Bay Area Guy
      November 3, 2010 at 6:36 PM

      Which is something you would know a lot about, right? ;-)

      I just find what goes on their interesting. The flame wars over there are always worth reading.

      But now that Thaddy’s gone, things just won’t be the same over there!

  69. chicnoir
    November 3, 2010 at 6:47 PM

    BAG But now that Thaddy’s gone, things just won’t be the same over there!

    but you’ll still read anyway :)

    I just find what goes on their interesting. The flame wars over there are always worth reading.

    I try to avoid those but the grammar Nazis can be rather amusing. Only because when they go to correct someone else they usually make a mistake themselves. :lol:

  70. Bay Area Guy
    November 3, 2010 at 6:58 PM

    I’ve come to cease taking this clown too seriously.

    But I just want to post this in order to illustrate what people like him REALLY think of you, my fellow white people.

    The left HATES you and wants to see you DIE, my fellow whites. Some are just better at concealing it than others.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/11/3/75623/1733

    I know, I know, some of you will say, “oh, he just means older, reactionary types of whites. He doesn’t mean that he wants whites to die. You’re overreacting. He’s just talking about bad white politics.” etc.

    My fellow white people, it’s time to wake up and smell what’s burning. Your enemies hate you, and will relentlessly seek your demise.

    As James Edwards would say, you can either get used to it or you can start fighting back. But this stuff isn’t going away on its own.

    • nobody
      November 3, 2010 at 10:01 PM

      lol, I clicked on this thread to post that very link. What an incredible asshole. I hate Republicans and he almost makes me feel sympathetic toward them.

      • Bay Area Guy
        November 3, 2010 at 10:03 PM

        I hate Republicans and he almost makes me feel sympathetic toward them.

        LOL!

        Damn, Timmy really outdid himself this time!

        By the way, he happens to live in a very nice house with high property values.

        (not high by California, particularly Northern California standards, but high by Tennessee standards, certainly)

        http://170.190.30.53/WebproNashville/Summary.asp?A1=4692156&A2=1

        Yeah, he’s enjoying a life of “privilege” indeed.

      • Bay Area Guy
        November 3, 2010 at 10:06 PM

        I mean, seriously, this guy has some REAL anger issues, as well as some skeletons in his closet.

        He makes me look like Deepak Chopra! And I’m certainly no Deepak Chopra, that’s for sure!

      • Bay Area Guy
        November 3, 2010 at 10:08 PM

        I mean, four bedrooms, 3 baths. Man!

        Maybe I should become an anti-racist hustler. I hear the pay is pretty good!

      • nobody
        November 3, 2010 at 10:41 PM

        His rant(along with his career?) is basically an expression of his hatred for gentile whites. I get along really well with all the Jews I know — who are nothing like him — but I’ll be damned if he doesn’t fit a certain stereotype.

        I can’t agree that all lefties hate Whites. A certain percentage of the left feels that way, yes, but at least among White lefties I don’t think they’re the majority. I have no interest in an exclusively White society, either.

        Still, Tim Wise is a strange phenomenon to behold.

        • Bay Area Guy
          November 3, 2010 at 10:48 PM

          It’s interesting.

          According to many Jews, Tim Wise isn’t considered Jewish (ie. no Jewish mother).

          And yet he always pulls out “I’m Jewish so I understand oppression” card (I’m reminded of his debate with Jared Taylor).

          He also claims to have grown up poor in a shitty apartment. I guess he also pulls out the white trash card. Based on his very derogatory and offensive remarks towards working class whites, and based on what Thad has said about lectures he’s seen Wise deliver, Timmy doesn’t have a clue how to reach out to working class whites. He doesn’t understand them at all.

          I think he’s just a dishonest person. He pulls out the Jewish card and he claims to have grown up poor.

          Yeah, plu-eeeze!

        • nobody
          November 3, 2010 at 11:12 PM

          “Well, as Hunter Wallace over at Occidental Dissent predicted, the left would overreact to this election and shoot themselves in the foot with their overheated rhetoric and excessive psychoanalysis on white racism. ”

          Did that really happen, though? Like I said, I don’t think that most on the left agree with Tim Wise. I also know from firsthand experience that there really is a lot of racism on the right. It’s one thing to realize that as a White person you have certain interests which may not always be shared by members of other ethnic groups. What you see on the right goes beyond that. Though I’ll be the first to say that the racism is not universal, just like not everyone on the left thinks like Tim Wise.

          With the gridlock that a Republican House will almost certainly bring, this country will have a lot of problems and the Democrats won’t get all the blame.

        • Bay Area Guy
          November 3, 2010 at 11:16 PM

          I mean, I guess that not all lefties are like Wise.

          But there’s a thin line between your average liberal Democrat and Tim Wise, just as people on the left would claim that there’s a thin line between Republicans and fascism.

          And yes, there certainly are racist assholes who vote Republican, but lefties seem to think that voting for a Republican ipso facto makes a white person racist.

        • tulio
          November 3, 2010 at 11:34 PM

          Hate him all you want, but he’s essentially right on the facts. America will become a majority non-white nation in a few decades and these teabaggers whites who wish for the good ol’ days will be gone, ushering in a new era of liberal politics. That’s pretty much what Robert has been saying all along. This is nothing but a short term victory, but they will lose the war in the end.

          I think one would be a fool to think that race has nothing to do with the politics surrounded Obama. Or people’s VERY short memories about what got us in this mess in the first place. Really…think about it. Where was the Tea Party during Bush’s 8 years where he turned a surplus into a deficit? Why did that not inspire them to go out and protest in mass about government spending? Why weren’t they out there protesting for accountability in who fucked us up in going into Iraq which cost us hundreds of billions? Where was the Tea Party then? I’ll say it, if we had a white president right now, there’s be no fucking Tea Party movement, and deep down, we all know that’s the truth.

        • nobody
          November 3, 2010 at 11:42 PM

          Tulio, I agree with every single word you wrote. Tim Wise’s essay betrays a mindset that goes beyond that.

        • Bay Area Guy
          November 3, 2010 at 11:43 PM

          Believe me, I will continue to hate that bastard. Indeed.

          And no, I don’t care about his “facts” or whether or not his claims are correct.

          Fact of the matter is, he’s openly declared war on white people as a whole, with the exception of him and a few other “righteous” whites.

          I mean, “you and YOURS have little time left.”

          WTF is that supposed to mean?

          This guy wants us dead, and I don’t care for that too much.

          And of course, I know you agree with everything Timmy says, so no surprise there.

          And I could care less whether or not tea partiers are racist towards Obama. Tim Wise used some very confrontational rhetoric there. Careful, Timmy. You just might piss off the wrong person and get what you preach.

        • tulio
          November 4, 2010 at 12:04 AM

          “Careful, Timmy. You just might piss off the wrong person and get what you preach.”

          Yeah, I’m sure you’d love to see Wise assassinated. Threats of violence to him from WNs and neo-nazi types are nothing new. Obama, probably the nicest-guy president we’ve had in a long time gets them every day from the same kind of wingnuts Wise speaks of that want to “take their country back” from the darkies, spics and faggots.

        • Bay Area Guy
          November 4, 2010 at 12:07 AM

          Actually, no. Him being assassinated would make him a martyr who people remember.

          I would much rather see his career ruined.

          I’m just saying, Tulio. This guy uses very aggressive and confrontational rhetoric. Well, if he’s going to dish it out, he might just have to take it.

          That’s a statement of fact, Tulio.

        • Bay Area Guy
          November 4, 2010 at 12:08 AM

          Yeah, Timmy getting offed would just break your heart, wouldn’t it Tulio?

        • Bay Area Guy
          November 4, 2010 at 12:11 AM

          Though I admit, if Wise were to get killed, I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.

          Just as Jared Taylor being killed wouldn’t make you lose any sleep.

        • tulio
          November 4, 2010 at 12:34 AM

          No, I wouldn’t lose any sleep over the loss of Jared Taylor, though I don’t wish death on him either.

          I really don’t think Tim Wise hates whites in general. I think he hates whites that are racist and tacitly support white privilege. He hates Tea Party types, but I doubt he hates Gavin Newsom types.

          Factually, I think he’s right about a lot. I think his overbearing and sanctimonious style of rhetoric puts a lot of people off though. I think you are responding to how he says things more than you are to the factual content that he’s espousing.

          Good nite guys…

        • Bay Area Guy
          November 4, 2010 at 12:55 AM

          I think you are responding to how he says things more than you are to the factual content that he’s espousing.

          Granted, I do disagree with him a lot with regards to his factual statements.

          Though, fundamentally, you’re right. I didn’t even really focus on any of his factual statements this post.

          I was primarily reacting viciously to his overheated rhetoric. Hence, the vicious, nasty, dark side of BAG that you saw tonight.

          I also must disagree with you with regards to how he views most whites. He DOES hate whites, with the exception of radicals like himself.

          You can just tell by the language he uses when talking about whites, and his overall rhetoric.

          He hates us and wishes us a slow but sure death.

          I know, you’ll think I’m overreacting and misinterpreting what he’s saying, he only hates right wing white racists/doesn’t mind Gavin Newsom, he’s factually correct, etc.

          Call me crazy, but that’s just the vibe that I get from him.

          Anyway, good night.

        • Bay Area Guy
          November 4, 2010 at 12:57 AM

          Also, white people who “tacitly support white privilege” is a pretty broad definition, isn’t it?

          By “tacitly support white privilege,” you essentially mean “whites who aren’t active anti-racist radicals,” which most whites aren’t.

          Therefore, he does hate most whites.

  71. Bay Area Guy
    November 3, 2010 at 10:55 PM

    Well, as Hunter Wallace over at Occidental Dissent predicted, the left would overreact to this election and shoot themselves in the foot with their overheated rhetoric and excessive psychoanalysis on white racism.

    But you know what, I want to thank Timmy Wise and other lefties. They’ve finally let their respectable civil rights/we just want equality mask slip, and have revealed themselves for who they truly are: people who hate whites and want to see them die.

    Yup, for that I give thanks indeed.

  72. FrankBD
    November 4, 2010 at 4:45 PM

    Didn’t know what article to post this under.

    Uber-diversitarian Tim Wise has posted a blog entry about Tuesday’s vote. I hadn’t understood before just what a white self-hater he is. I’ve never called civil rights advocates “race traitors,” but this guy truly is:

    For all y’all rich folks, enjoy that champagne, or whatever fancy ass Scotch you drink.
    And for y’all a bit lower on the economic scale, enjoy your Pabst Blue Ribbon, or whatever shitty ass beer you favor.
    Whatever the case, and whatever your economic station, know this…
    You need to drink up.
    And quickly.
    And heavily.
    Because your time is limited.
    Real damned limited.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/11/3/75623/1733

    • Bay Area Guy
      November 4, 2010 at 5:04 PM

      Ah, and here’s Timmy attempting to cover his tracks.

      http://www.timwise.org/2010/11/reading-comprehension-101-text-subtext-and-the-politics-of-misinterpretation/

      Of course, one should note the insufferable arrogance he displays.

      You see, it had little to do with his overheated rhetoric or poor choice of imagery. Oh no.

      If you didn’t get what Tim was truly trying to convey, then you apparently possess poor reading comprehension skills, are an idiot, etc.

      My translation of this “apology”: “You guys caught me, but I’m not manly enough to face up to it, so I’m going to accuse you of being too stupid to understand what I’m saying.”

      This guy truly is a piece of work. I mean, he acts as if he’s some brilliant philosopher king. Newsflash, Timmy: You only have a fucking BA from Tulane. You’re not part of some brilliant educated elite, in case you were wondering.

  73. Bay Area Guy
    November 9, 2010 at 11:38 PM

    Ah, some comic relief for us race obsessed people!

  74. AJ
    November 12, 2010 at 7:40 PM

    hey bayareaguy , so are you a White Nationalist?

  75. AJ
    November 17, 2010 at 11:46 AM

    robert, what do you think of Malcolm X, the NOI, and the New Black Panther Party, and the Black Hebrew Israelites? how about MLK Jr? You never talk about him.

  76. johnUK
    November 17, 2010 at 2:26 PM

    What about the whole whites make up about 20% of the global population and will decline to 5% by 2050 or something like that that I hear. Is there any truth in it?

    Surely they only count actual white countries and not white populations in the Middle East and Gulf like Iran, Lebanon, Syria, etc.

    • Robert Lindsay
      November 17, 2010 at 2:51 PM

      I don’t know about those statistics. The White nationalist-tards throw those figures about. I believe the figure for Euro Whites is 9%, and yes, they don’t count the Levant, Iranians, etc.

      • johnUK
        November 17, 2010 at 3:32 PM

        At least they are starting to recognize Iranians are white at least in the northern region of Iran.

        I saw a post on the Stormfront website the other day where they posted pictures.

        Iran girls at least the ones they posted looked pretty hot.

        Well I can’t actually find the SF thread but I found a link to a BBC article looking for that says that East Germany has the lowest birth rate in Europe.

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4793997.stm

        I wonder what the annual birth rate was when it was under the old Soviet Union.

        Interesting thing is low birth rates seem to be a European wide problem.

        Surprisingly at least to me Ireland 15.2 per 1000 live births per 1,000 inhabitants in Europe in 2004.

  77. johnUK
    November 17, 2010 at 3:37 PM

    You should do a post Robert of native birth rates in social democracies compared to capitalist governments or whatever you would call a US type system “free market” or whatever.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4793997.stm

  79. Gay State Girl
    November 20, 2010 at 7:46 PM

    Gay Area Guy
    The best definition for the ADL
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jew%20Klux%20Klan

  80. tulio
    November 23, 2010 at 4:02 PM

    Russia in 15 seconds:

  81. Wade in MO
    November 27, 2010 at 5:43 PM

    “British then.”

    I guess that works, but it’s not ideal. There are distinct naitons in the British Isles. I don’t know if they’d all approve of being lumped into one, which might be one of the weak points of ‘British nationalism.’

  82. tulio
    November 29, 2010 at 4:31 PM

    The most right-wing man in America.

    • Bay Area Guy
      November 29, 2010 at 7:18 PM

      Oh, brother! I’ve seen this guy before!

      Isn’t this the same doofus who said that blacks should listen to Rush Limbaugh because he preaches the same message as Malcolm X?

      • tulio
        November 29, 2010 at 7:31 PM

        Not sure if he said that or not.

        Btw, BAG. I was watching the movie American History X last night. Something about it reminded me of you. Ever seen it?

        • Bay Area Guy
          November 29, 2010 at 7:35 PM

          Oh yes, I’ve seen it, albeit the clean version on FX.

          And yes, I’m not exactly surprised that the film reminded you of me.

          But don’t worry. Won’t be curb stomping you anytime soon!

        • tulio
          November 29, 2010 at 7:36 PM

          I’m sure FX took out the graphic prison rape scene.

        • Bay Area Guy
          November 29, 2010 at 7:39 PM

          Actually, they didn’t.

          Granted, they didn’t show the graphic details of it, but I do recall him getting butt fucked by his fellow neo-Nazis, because (ironically enough), he objected to them doing business with a Mexican gang.

          As I recall, that led to him spurning his fellow skinheads at the prison table, and we all know how that eventually ended.

        • Bay Area Guy
          November 29, 2010 at 7:46 PM

          Well, I’ll be honest Tulio.

          While I’m definitely not that extreme, there is indeed a thin line between my beliefs and that kind of behavior.

          That being said, I have little love for skinheads, because they make the overall white activist scene look bad.

          Stereotypes of white nationalists, like all stereotypes, exist because they embody a large element of truth, and skinheads like that only give ammo to those opposed to white activism.

          Reading Hunter Wallace over at Occidental Dissent has given me perspective, and made me realize that dogmatic attitudes and an extremist, vanguardist belief in ideological purity, is never the answer.

          White nationalism must be much, much more than a few tattooed thugs wreaking havoc.

        • johnUK
          November 29, 2010 at 8:49 PM

          @Bay Area Guy

          “While I’m definitely not that extreme, there is indeed a thin line between my beliefs and that kind of behavior.”

          What the butt fucking? lol!

          The problem with WN is that they view everything in the spectrum of race wither it be foreign policy, economics, etc.

          Same with socialists/liberals except they put economics at the centre of everything with things like different racial IQ’s are a non- topic.

        • Bay Area Guy
          November 29, 2010 at 8:52 PM

          Well, everyone has their priorities.

          While I can talk to you about economics, foreign policy, and other issues, I consider race to be very important.

          On another note, I think that the left has lost its economic vision, and has become increasingly Culturally Marxist.

        • tulio
          November 29, 2010 at 9:30 PM

          I think the screenwriter must have had some in-depth knowledge of WN, because the arguments that skinhead was saying were serious, not just some caricature of those beliefs. I think he probably read some Jared Taylor or something as research for that character.

        • Wade in MO
          November 29, 2010 at 9:37 PM

          “On another note, I think that the left has lost its economic vision, and has become increasingly Culturally Marxist.”

          I agree, however by ‘left’ I hope you don’t mean only democrats.

          I don’t have a lot of love for socialism, but I agree with it in many way on economics (in practice, if not in theory). I think culture is much more important. Economics has a dual purpose of finding programs to provide for people most effectively and aiding in the preserving and developing the culture of a region or a nation. Economics certainly interacts with culture and must be shaped by the culture rather than the other way around. Universalism is only be feasible in the broadest of strokes.

          Since the left has decided to for go its more populist economics there is little if anything that I find of value in it(unless you’re speaking of negative values). I consider my self to be somewhat of a blood and soil nationalist who believes in a good deal of populism, so parties that follow neo-liberal economics and are culturaly marxist are absolutely abhorrent to me.

          Cultural marxists try to say that they’re trying to remake the cultures of the world and rid them of racism, sexism, and all the other ‘isms’ that arrogant snooty assholes love to claim are all pervasive and only they have the secret knowledge to decipher and destroy them. (see, it really is a religion). The reality is that they are not really at war with this or that culture or this or that tradition. They’re at war with the idea of culture and tradition altogether. To them humans are just economic units and every form of tradition is some invention of the upper class. They say that there are no nations and any idea of such a thing existing is only there to oppress someone. If the cultural marxist ideology were able to totally enforce itself the world would be full of people who would live life with no celebrations or distinctiveness. Having sex and taking a shit would be considered similar because they are just bodily functions that fufill a material need. Love and emotion are just social contructs. Of course both would be done in public because shame was invented by sexists and other bigots.

          Pornography would be a particulary vexing problem. On one hand it ‘oppresses’ women. On the other hand, pornographic movies are like romances to them. The idea of courtship and humility are just sexist contructs. People are just souless automations who perform economic function, one of which is sex.

          Without out the populism-ish economics, the left is just plain garbage. It only purpose it to fill the world with ugliness.

        • Wade in MO
          November 29, 2010 at 9:45 PM

          Back onto American History X, has any on heard that the ending in the movie was not the original? I heard that the original ending was Norton’s character shaving his head after his brother had been shot and reentering the skinhead movement. I forgot where I read that. Has anyone else heard about it?

        • Bay Area Guy
          November 29, 2010 at 9:57 PM

          @ Tulio

          From what I’ve read, the leader of the skinhead gang was based mostly on Tom Metzger.

  83. Wade in MO
    November 30, 2010 at 10:10 PM

    Jews, European, Americans, National Difference, and Accomplishment

    I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the impact of national characteristics in types and ‘flavor’ of accomplishment?

    I think it is quite an interesting question. Look for example at Germany/Austria. German philosophy is widely know as being high browed and almost inpenetrable ( read Kant). It is traditionally more idealistic in outlook. In germany/austria, at least early in the 20th century, there was the tradition of the philosopher-scientist. Men like David Hilbert, Albert Einstein, and Gottlob Frege made great breakthroughs in science that also had a huge philosophical significance. Of particular interest is the relationship between Albert Einstein and the great logician Kurt godel. Both were extremely interested and inspired by Kant. Their work has almost mystical overtones, at least when it first came out. Godel was a well known platonist and this is said to have been a large influence on his philosophic views. England, however, is quite different. The english have always been a more practical people. Metaphysics has been looked down upon at times there. Originally Isaac Newton only wanted to talk aobut experiments. he thought the ideas of atoms and other unseen things was unscientific. england has had a lot of physicists and engineers who were great, but a considerably lower, but still significant, number of pure mathematicians. The United States has gone to the extreme. Americans, at least until a few decades ago, were probably the most practical of scientifically advanged peoples. Americans abound in the annuls of technology and engineering from about 1850-1950 but have almost a total dearth of significant mathematicians.While america did have some significant theoretical physicists, it seems most of out most important ones at this time were experimental physicists. America has gotten better on theoretical things in this past half century though. If you want an idea of the people in this era look at Charles Murray’s “Human Accomplishment.” Some people don’t like the methodology, but the figures closely resemble things I’ve read about.

    What does this have to do with jews?

    It just seems to me that, while they may have higher IQs, jews can;t overcome their host societies. Something I thought was interestin in Murray’s book was that he points out that while jews may have disproportionately high amounts of influential people, they all existed in societies that were already producing influential people. Jew were great physicists and mathematicians in Germany and Hungary, but those entire societies were known for physicists and mathematicians. Jews be came important figures in the United States, but they begin to come out after the civil war when all of america began exploding with scientists, especially inventors and engineers. I’ve never heard of jew making great contributions to science or culture where the rest of society is not. how many great jew scientists have come from Latin America? historically there were some jews down there and there are today, but they don’t put out geniuses like they do in the US. Even Israel doesn’t seem to produce smarter jews like the US. Maybe it’s because the US has a higher proportion of Ashkenazi jews and Israel has more Arab Jews. I don’t think this can account for it all though. I don;t think even jewish intellegence can break out of a fundamentally dumb culture. There has to be something more than just IQ in the air to make a society that will contribute fundamentally to the intellectual and cultural life of mankind.

  84. Wade in MO
    December 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM

    This has probably been posted before, but its a classic.

    Hearing black preacher call people niggers in funny but weird. I wonder if black preachers commonly call their own congregations niggers.

    • Bay Area Guy
      December 1, 2010 at 3:28 PM

      Oh, lord, Pastor Manning!

      This guy really cracks me up. I can’t believe that he actually has any black congregants.

    • randy
      December 4, 2010 at 11:22 PM

      i think it’s pretty normal for black people to call each other niggers. and i’m not just talking about the casual type of “yo ma nigga” stuff.

      chris rock has a bit about it.

      i read a great post on reddit once by some guy who was in high school and sat down at lunch with a table full of black students. not the hood/ghetto blacks…and over at some other table there were some black kids having lunch and acting all ghetto. one of the black non-ghetto guys said “fucking niggers.” pretty funny stuff.

  85. Wade in MO
    December 1, 2010 at 8:21 PM

    Robert, are you changing pictures and format on us? God Dammit!
    I was used to the old one.

  87. Bay Area Guy
    December 2, 2010 at 5:50 PM

    Oh brother, dishonest Ziocon Abe Foxman seeking to get the U.S. entangled in yet another Middle Eastern mess on behalf of his beloved Israel. Of course, he doesn’t come right out and say it.

    http://www.adl.org/ADL_Opinions/International_Affairs/20101201-oped+Huffington+Post.htm

  89. johnUK
    December 3, 2010 at 1:11 PM

    John de Nugent – Race for Congress: Part 1 of 11

  90. randy
    December 4, 2010 at 11:16 PM

    here’s a nice link for those visitors to this site who freak out about Jewish influence in the USA.

    H.R.6277 — Combating Anti-Semitism Act of 2010 (Introduced in House – IH)

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.6277:

  91. Uncle Milton
    December 5, 2010 at 12:28 AM

    To Randy:
    yes i am aware. are you a cop?

    No….but rumor has it that cops get the best rent-a-poon…

  93. Gay State Girl
    December 6, 2010 at 7:58 PM

    Psychology is a criminal profession. The ones who work in the private sector with issues like marital counseling just rip you off and waste your time. But the ones who work in less lucrative areas like public schools actually derive pleasure from other’s misfortune. It gives them a sense of self worth.

    • Wade in MO
      December 6, 2010 at 8:08 PM

      I was once on anti-depressants after being on a drug that was supposed to increase risks for drepression. People had me on the drug for almost three years going between different doctors. In the begining I did hav troubles, but I suspect they were gone with in a months. I would tell doctors this, but they would keep perscribing me medicine. Eventually I just went off and have been better since. That’s dangerous if you take large amounts, but I was only taking small amounts so I was fine. I haven’t felt anything wrong with me since. Even if you do have a problem, you still need to question your doctors advice sometimes.

      • Hacienda
        December 6, 2010 at 8:35 PM

        They were probably prescibing a placebo for you. You’re own ordinary suspiciousness and orneryness and tendency to auto pleasure yourself probably saved your ass.

        • Wade in MO
          December 6, 2010 at 9:08 PM

          ” and tendency to auto pleasure yourself probably saved your ass.”

          It wouldn’t be the first time masterbation has saved me.

    • Hacienda
      December 6, 2010 at 8:32 PM

      “Psychology is a criminal profession.”

      At what point did humanity evolve into a criminal enterprise? LOL. But you are right. It’s a scam.

      • Gay State Girl
        December 6, 2010 at 9:13 PM

        I have much more respect for counselors than I do for psychologists. They usually only have a masters degree so they tend to be less arrogant. Social workers are true saints, they deserve the salaries that psychologists get.

        I have mild autism and as a child, I was forced to go take every conceivable drug and go to every conceivable form of therapy. The shrinks were pretty condescending, always told me how “special” I was but never gave any respect. They derive pleasure from making you feel small.

  94. johnUK
    December 6, 2010 at 10:41 PM

    Interesting concept.

  95. Gay State Girl
    December 7, 2010 at 6:25 PM

    Deborah Lipstadt is coming to my sister’s school to give a lecture on “The New Antisemitism.”

    • Bay Area Guy
      December 7, 2010 at 6:35 PM

      “The New Antisemitism”

      Translation: The goyim are catching on to us due to the excesses of the Israel lobby and the questionable loyalties of Jews in the Israel lobby, and the disastrous U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East on behalf of Israel has also caused the goyim to further scrutinize Jewish power and influence in the media, government, and finance.

      Therefore, we must scream “new antisemitism” in order to foreclose any inquiry on Jewish uses and abuses of power, so we can avoid being rightfully criticized.

      • Gay State Girl
        December 7, 2010 at 6:51 PM

        All this talk of the New antisemitism is actually a disservice to anyone who has ever been a victim of antisemitism. It minimizes the charge of antisemitism and makes reports of real antisemitic acts seem less credible. And they don’t care about fighting antisemitism, they just use antisemitism for their political benefit. My family experienced a hate crime in 1982. My grandfather’s textile mill was set on fire by conservative catholics, but the ADL didn’t want to help us pay for the damages (it was uninsured at the time) they just pay lip service. A proper ADL would assist the victims of hate crimes.

        • Bay Area Guy
          December 7, 2010 at 6:55 PM

          What? The ADL didn’t actually help your family out?

          What pieces of shit, especially considering their multimillion dollar annual budget.

        • Bay Area Guy
          December 7, 2010 at 6:57 PM

          So let me get this straight. Not only is the ADL a hypocritical organization (for other reasons that I’ve pointed out), but they WON’T EVEN help out fellow Jews in need?

          Yeah, some “civil rights” organization indeed!

        • Gay State Girl
          December 7, 2010 at 7:04 PM

          They just exploit other people’s tragedies for their own political benefit.

        • Wade in MO
          December 7, 2010 at 7:15 PM

          The truth behind the ADL…

          Anti-Defamation

          The ADL was founded in Chicago in 1913 as an arm of B’nai B’rith, a Jewish fraternal order. The league is tax exempt and has offices in 31 American cities. It has an annual budget of $34 million and employs over 400 people, including an impressive legal staff. The mission of the ADL is to expose and combat anti-Semitism and to defend the interests of Israel. It does this through a variety of community activities, public relations, and lobbying efforts. It also monitors anti-Semitism, but by lumping epithets and graffiti with a few acts of violence, it tends to exaggerate the problem. Alarmist warnings are good for business, but they scare Jews unnecessarily. Mr. Wilcox quotes from a May 17, 1993 New Republic article by J.J. Goldberg:

          “In private, some Jewish agency staffers insist the alarmist tone set by a few national Jewish agencies, mainly for fund-raising purposes, is a key cause of Jewish anxiety. Fingers point most often at the ADL . . . which specialize[s] in mass mailings warning of impending doom and urging donations.”
          Sometimes the ADL jumps from alarmism to outright deception. In 1981 Mr. Wilcox was asked by a Minneapolis television station to help produce a documentary on right-wing groups. One was the New York chapter of the “Christian Patriot’s Defense League.” Its two representatives, “Jim Anderson,” and “John Austin,” were such stereotypical “bigots” that Mr. Wilcox became suspicious. He discovered that “Jim Anderson” was actually James Rosenberg, who was employed by the ADL. Both Mr. Rosenberg and “John Austin,” whose real name was Kevin Reid, were arrested later that year when police found them on a rooftop in New York City with unregistered rifles. They were apparently posing for photographs to portray the threat of the far right. They were arrested for possession of an unregistered rifle and carrying a weapon in public view, but the ADL managed to get the charges dropped.

          The ADL has also had a well-known spying program. In 1993 an internal investigation by the San Francisco Police Department found that intelligence officer Tom Gerard was passing confidential police files to ADL spy, Roy Bullock, who was in turn sharing information with the Israeli government. Mr. Bullock had an ADL “enemies” list of 10,000 individuals and 1,000 organizations. Groups to be spied on even included left-wing organizations like the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Conference of Black Lawyers. Investigators found similar ADL connections to police departments throughout the country.

          When the ADL was criticized for spying, Mr. Wilcox reports that National Director Abraham Foxman called his critics—including many left-wing publications like the Village Voice—“anti-Semitic, undemocratic, and anti-American bastards.” The ADL was prosecuted for eavesdropping, conspiracy, and receiving confidential files from police agencies. Despite a seemingly strong case against it, all charges were dropped in exchange for a settlement of $75,000—to be used to fight hate crimes.

          “Mr. Wilcox reports that deceit and illegality have not stopped the ADL from enjoying the support of government and law enforcement agencies. Long viewed with suspicion by the FBI—especially by J. Edgar Hoover—in 1985 the ADL got the cooperation it wanted when the agency issued a memo to all field offices to develop formal liaisons with the group. In practical terms this means the FBI gets its information on “hate groups” from the ADL, hardly an unbiased source. The ADL has also worked under contract with the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights to produce reports on right-wing organizations.”

          http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2010/11/watching_the_wa.php

      • Gay State Girl
        December 7, 2010 at 7:41 PM

        Jewish organizations overplay the threat of antisemitism and assimilation to create a sense of pessimism to scare elderly jews into donating to jewish organizations.

      • johnUK
        December 7, 2010 at 7:55 PM

        @Bay Area Guy

        I think they will use blacks, Mexicans and Muslims as a scapegoat. Notice how Jews like Summers and Emmanuel have jumped ship and you here about anti-minority angle on Fox News now.

        Same thing they accused the Nazis of doing before WW2 except the lead the Communist movement in German and controlled media and industry.
        More hypocrisy from the chosen people.

        http://jewishtribalreview.org/lapin2.htm

  96. Bay Area Guy
    December 7, 2010 at 8:46 PM

    I hope Bro Nathanael is exaggerating, I really do.

    • Gay State Girl
      December 7, 2010 at 8:58 PM

      I heard about that in 2008 and it never happened. But the meat industry is producing more meat and slaughtering more animals than we can afford to maintain. 10 billion animals are slaughtered every year in the US and Canada and consumers rely on too much meat and dairy products in their diet which are unaffordable to produce during recessions.

      • Wade in MO
        December 7, 2010 at 10:27 PM

        ” consumers rely on too much meat and dairy products in their diet which are unaffordable to produce during recessions.”

        That also may be part of the reason we’re all such fat asses.

    • johnUK
      December 8, 2010 at 9:31 AM

      @Bay Area Guy

      If the US did not destroy the food industry in Mexico putting it into the hands of multi-nationals like Monsantos then there would be zero risk of a food crisis just like they do around the world as part of a genocidal depopulation agenda.

      Fast forward to 9:53 where Kissinger drafts the policy.

      Isn’t your hero Jarrod Taylor a Zionist?

      On two occasions I tried to post about Jews in Communism and social left in the US and Jewish individuals and organizations that support mass immigration to the US historically on his website and they never get published.

      • Bay Area Guy
        December 8, 2010 at 11:13 AM

        I don’t know if Jared Taylor is indeed a Zionist. I don’t know if he’s even a philo-Semite at heart.

        All I know is that unlike the overwhelming majority of white nationalists, he avoids discussing the Jewish Question, and has actually managed to attract a decent amount of Jewish support.

        At least one Amren conference featured 4/10 speakers as Jews.

        And I think I need to make it clear that if there are Jews who genuinely support the white cause, then they should be accepted. Thus, I have no problem with Mayer Schiller, Michael Levin, Robert Weissberg, Michael H. Hart, Paul Gottfried, etc.

        Neocons like David Horowitz, on the other hand, wouldn’t be so welcome, in my book.

  97. Shawn
    December 8, 2010 at 9:10 AM

    Assange is in prison for not telling a groupie his condom broke.

  98. Shawn
    December 8, 2010 at 12:45 PM

    She is a feminist. She was not knocked up or infected, as far as I know.

    An Interpol alert resulted from Assange not telling his groupie his condom broke. I wonder if it is political…

    • Wade in MO
      December 8, 2010 at 11:01 PM

      “She is a feminist. She was not knocked up or infected, as far as I know. ”

      Good. She deserves it. (This is also what I say when I see a blonde whore getting analy annihilated by an 8 inch black cock in half the porn on the internet.)

      • Wade in MO
        December 8, 2010 at 11:23 PM

        ““She is a feminist. She was not knocked up or infected, as far as I know. ”

        Good. She deserves it. (This is also what I say when I see a blonde whore getting analy annihilated by an 8 inch black cock in half the porn on the internet.)”

        My mistake. I thought you said she WAS infected or knocked up (or both! LOL!!!) THis is a major let down.

    • Wade in MO
      December 8, 2010 at 11:03 PM

      ” I wonder if it is political…”

      I hope so. I can’t believe this asshole is using condoms. He’s going to ruin it for the rest of us.

  99. Wade in MO
    December 8, 2010 at 11:09 PM

    Hey Robert, have you ever seen the neo-nazi symbol “14/88″
    Where 88 = HH = Heil Hitler and 14 is the ‘famous’ 14 words?

    I’ve come up with a zionist version that I’ve been posting as a reply to neonazi posts on YouTube.

    14/88

    88 = HH = Heil Hertzel
    14 words = We must secure the existence of our people and a future for jewish children

    I’m still awaiting replies. This should be fun.

    Heil Hertzel!

  100. Wade in MO
    December 8, 2010 at 11:36 PM

    Robert, I’ve got your next post:

    White Guys: RAPE MORE BLACK WOMEN!!!!
    For years white supremacists have been using the the statistics that show that black men rape women in greater number than whites rape black women. Since efforts to reduce the number of black guys raping white women have not worked, the only way to close the gap and correct this injustice is to increase the number of white guys raping black women! We can do it! We can create a more just and equal society, just like the Antebellum South! The sexual assault on black women is a assault on slavery, racism, imperialism, and discrimination. It’s high time white men stopped discriminating against black women when choosing rape victims!!!

    I’m calling out to all you racist crackers out there:

    YOU GET THOSE PENCIL DICKS OUT AND RAPE THOSE NIGGERS GOOD!!!!!!

    Just remember: YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN!

  101. Gay State Girl
    December 10, 2010 at 8:05 PM

    Thank you Naomi Klein!

    Now go make some jewish babies. Too bad I’m not a man saying this. It would have had more zing to it…

  102. Gay State Girl
    December 12, 2010 at 10:04 PM

    That does it. I’m booking the Westboro Baptist Church to “perform” at my aunt Carole’s FUNeral.

  103. Gay State Girl
    December 12, 2010 at 10:06 PM

    Fred Phelps can defecate on her husband’s grave.

  104. Gay State Girl
    December 12, 2010 at 10:52 PM

    Gay Area Guy This ones for you WBC vs JDL. Enjoy!

  105. Gay State Girl
    December 12, 2010 at 10:56 PM

    I don’t know why anyone takes them seriously. WBC is a traveling comedy troup.

    • Bay Area Guy
      December 13, 2010 at 11:17 AM

      Hehe

      It’s hard to take any of them too seriously. And I don’t know if it’s just me, but I have hard time taking Jewish wannabe militants seriously.

      • Matt
        December 13, 2010 at 2:40 PM

        I’ve always assumed that the WBC were trolls IRL of the first order. As for the JDL, do they kiss their sweet little Jewish mothers with those mouths? What kind of Judaism do they represent? I don’t claim to be an expert in the Jewish religion, but I’m pretty sure that observant Jews–whatever else one may say about them–don’t approve of spouting that trash talk in public. I’d say that the JDL and the WBC are peas in a pod.

      • Gay State Girl
        December 13, 2010 at 3:57 PM

        Exactly. I don’t know why anyone views WBC as a threat. As offensive as Fred Phelps is, how many people has he killed?

        In response to Matt, the WBC was protesting the JCC in Long Beach and a bunch of jews organized a ridiculous counter protest. It wasn’t serious, they were just mocking the WBC.

  106. Gay State Girl
    December 13, 2010 at 4:01 PM

    And JDL is way more useful than it’s whiny counterpart, the ADL. At least the JDL can teach young jews something useful. They value the use of martial arts and self defense and believe in the right to bear arms (every jew a .42!) and they have good computer hacking skills. Jewish defense groups have to evolve if they want to have any relevance.

    • Matt
      December 14, 2010 at 10:49 AM

      LOL. Those particular JDLers would be huffing and puffing after 30 secs. of light sparring. They do look like they might spend hours in front of computers eating potato chips and microwave burritoes, though.

  107. Wade in MO
    December 13, 2010 at 4:07 PM

    LOL! Somebody jewed the jews in Israel! You can clearly see signs in this parade saying “ANTIFA Israel.” LOL!

  108. Gay State Girl
    December 13, 2010 at 5:48 PM

    Phil Weiss believes the world revolves around the Palestinian cause. He will take something from anywhere in time and space and relate it to the Palestinian situation. Phil Weiss is an arrogant fuck who thinks he knows everything because he went to Harvard. Don’t listen to anything he says.

  109. Gay State Girl
    December 13, 2010 at 7:30 PM

    Israel’s shameless self promotion is ultimately going to backfire. The latest is that Israel invited the Chilean miners to Israel so they could experience Christmas in Bethlehem-of course they’ll gloss it over and show them the nice parts and give the Palestinians an early curfew. I wish Israel and world jewry would keep a low profile. Its in their interest.

    • Wade in MO
      December 13, 2010 at 7:34 PM

      ” I wish Israel and world jewry would keep a low profile. Its in their interest.”

      Like the mob. Interesting…

    • Bay Area Guy
      December 14, 2010 at 10:33 AM

      I wish Israel and world jewry would keep a low profile. Its in their interest.

      I’ve said before that if Jews would just sit down, shut up, and quietly enjoy their money, they would be in good shape.

      Instead, by constantly flaunting their wealth and power, shoving Cultural Marxism down white people’s throats, declaring the Nazi holocaust the only genocide in human history, and screaming “anti-Semitism” whenever somebody points out Jewish wealth, power, and misdeeds, they’re inviting an inevitable backlash.

      The problem is that Jews are simply incapable of shutting up. I think Brother Nathanael said it best: There’s a reason they’ve been kicked out of country to country to country, because they’re not innocent victims! They always have to foment, they always have to criticize, they always have to revolutionize. They can’t just settle down and live like norman people.

      Granted, not all Jews are like this, and there are Jews I get along with well (well, so long as we avoid politics, that is), but that’s my take on Jews.

      • Bay Area Guy
        December 14, 2010 at 10:34 AM

        And I generally avoid politics when around Jews because over 90% of them are liberal.

        (and I include neocons in the liberal category)

  110. Gay State Girl
    December 13, 2010 at 7:50 PM

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/new-yad-vashem-program-aims-to-teach-arabs-about-the-holocaust-1.330347#article_comments

    Time to put the Holocaust to bed. This only fans the fire and gives the deniers fodder to feed on. Its an injustice to the Holocaust survivors as well as the victims to constantly invoke the Holocaust.

    • johnUK
      December 15, 2010 at 4:33 PM

      Funny thing is there have been Yad Vashem staff in Israel accussed by the Baltic states of commiting Communist war crimes.

      Most famous Communist war criminal being Simon Morale who ran a German death camp in Poland after WW2 who Jewish author John Sacks wrote about in his book An Eye For An Eye who lives in Israel.

      Maybe he is one of those “jews who are not Jews” and expect him to extradicted to Germany soon if he is still alive.
      But the request was first ordered during the 90′s so I doubt it will happen anytime soon.

  111. Gay State Girl
    December 13, 2010 at 7:53 PM

    Ah check this out:

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/how-much-do-u-s-jewish-leaders-make-1.330414

    And my family never saw a penny after our uninsured factory was burned to the ground.

  112. Gay State Girl
    December 13, 2010 at 7:59 PM

    The left will have to exclude rich people who support a general progressive agenda but look out for their own interests. Again George Tsuris, Michael Moore…They’re the worst breed of hypocrites.

  113. Wade in MO
    December 14, 2010 at 9:40 AM

    The sell out is back at it selling out for the military-industrial propaganda machine. He’s a “black mark” on the US.

  114. Bay Area Guy
    December 14, 2010 at 11:26 AM

    White people, let’s unite to defeat the DREAM Act. The illegals and other Hispanics have made their racial intentions quite clear.

    • Wade in MO
      December 14, 2010 at 12:56 PM

      “DREAM Act Supporter: Illegal Aliens Will Replace ‘Old White Men’ in Senate”

      I guess it’s fitting. After all, illegals are already corporate shills by their very nature. What really pisses me off is that they hate america despite the benefits (health care, college admission & aid, etc…) that illegals get here, yet they would never try anything to better their lives in Mexico. I willing to bet that if there was a conflict between the US and the corrupt upper class of Mexico that these “”leftist”" illegal aliens would gladly side with upper class mexican parasites. I don’t trust non-white leftists in the US no matter where they’re from.

      • Bay Area Guy
        December 14, 2010 at 1:04 PM

        I don’t trust non-white leftists in the US no matter where they’re from.

        Neither do I.

        Wade, you’ll come to realize that, push comes to shove, non-white leftists are not really that “progressive” (whatever the hell that’s supposed to mean).

        Oh sure, they’re “progressive” when it comes to racial issues that DIRECTLY AFFECT THEM. But when it comes to other issues, you don’t see the same kind of emotional or ideological commitment to “progressivism.”

        But of course, since the left has been hijacked by Cultural Marxists, who primarily focus on race, blacks and Hispanics are ipso facto progressive, regardless of their actual views on a variety of issues.

        (ie. the sexist and homophobic views of many black and Hispanic men, as well as the bourgeois elitism of many black Critical Race Theorists)

        But if poor and working class white people are not anti-racist, then they’re reactionary, regardless of their views on economics.

        The left today is a joke. All they have going for them is Hispanics fucking like rabbits. They think that all they have to do is sit back and win a war of attrition.

        I just hope they realize that when YT goes down, their “coalition” of victim groups will soon turn on each other. After all, once the big bad white man goes down, these groups will have precious little in common.

        • Wade in MO
          December 14, 2010 at 1:52 PM

          It’s already going down.

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110603880.html

          The CRACKS in the alliance are already showing.

        • Gay State Girl
          December 14, 2010 at 1:56 PM

          Blacks and Hispanics are big social conservatives. As I recall, they attributed Propostion 8 passing in California on a high minority voter turnout for Obama. They will want to overturn Roe v Wade, Gun Control Laws (not that I would be so opposed to that), woman’s rights (this would be a bad thing because hispanics tend to be misogynistic, and animal right laws and they don’t give a shit about the environment.

        • Gay State Girl
          December 14, 2010 at 1:59 PM

          Shucks you beat me to it.

        • Wade in MO
          December 14, 2010 at 2:14 PM

          ” they don’t give a shit about the environment.”

          This is probably because if you leave black alone long enough everything will go back to nature anyway.

          Remember the old Wade saying:

          When whites go without elctricity and running water its called camping. When blacks go without electricity and running water its called AFRICA.

        • LaFleur
          December 14, 2010 at 2:48 PM

          The CRACKS in the alliance are already showing.

          Laissez les bon temps roulez! Let’s have people’s true beliefs and ambitions out in the open. Any 9th century jerkoffs who think that all my uterus are belong to them can say hello to my little friend.

          The real problem with SWPLs is they think that given the chance, everyone wants to be exactly like them.

        • Bay Area Guy
          December 14, 2010 at 4:05 PM

          The problem with SWPL’s (including my mother) is that they do indeed think that, given the proper amount of income and education, everybody else secretly wants to be just like them.

          (although my mom, to her credit, does acknowledge black hostility towards whites and recognizes that black areas are not for white people to walk through)

          That’s why they overlook black homophobia and sexism, because since it’s cool to be progressive on race, then blacks are ipso facto progressive , and obviously do not differ with white progressives one bit when it comes to other issues.

          I just hope SWPL liberals realize that once non-whites take over, and white influence goes the way of the dodo, their precious little yuppie lifestyles will go with it.

  116. Gay State Girl
    December 14, 2010 at 11:50 PM

    Bay Area Guy
    Just curious. Why do you treat Tim Wise as if he’s some kind of threat. Most people don’t even know who he is. He has no influence whatsoever.

    • LaFleur
      December 15, 2010 at 9:52 AM

      It’s not Wise as an individual. You’re right, most people don’t know who he is. It’s that people like him have come to dominate the left. The so-called left in America now means lifestyle issues, not economics. Thanks to people like him, when most people think of leftists, they don’t think of people who will fight to the death for the right of all people to eat, have a roof over their heads, and not be treated like a slave at work. They think of people who are obsessed with whether Joe Blow doesn’t like Mexicans or trans people or something.

      That and the “whiteness” obsession, which is completely divorced from economics, and results in rich white yuppies scolding working class whites for their white privilege, as if lowly cube drones and factory serfs have more power to abuse non-whites than governments and corporations.

      • Gay State Girl
        December 16, 2010 at 6:21 AM

        La Fleur
        I get fatigued of this insane political correctness as well but white privilege does exist to a degree. As a petite white woman, I could walk into an antique store, without turning any heads. Even a working class white person could dress up nicely, cover up big tattoos if they have them and go unnoticed. The same could not be said for Tulio no matter how nicely he dressed.

        I am also a bit resentful of the generalizations that people on this site make about rich people. I’m from an upper middle class family, but my parents both work very hard, and we live frugally. We live in a nice house but we dont overspend on ridiculous things and flaunt them. My parents give 10% of their income to the synagogue, 10% goes to a charity of our choice (this year it was the Avon Foundation for Breast Cancer.)

        My mother is a professor and my father is an insurance agent, but he is the most moral person you will ever meet. He will sit for hours with his clients explaining the policies and if he feels they could be better served by another company’s policy, he tells them and he researches that policy and answers questions that they might have. I understand that you’ve had a bad experience with rich whites but please don’t make blanket generalizations.

        • LaFleur
          December 16, 2010 at 9:27 AM

          I’m aware that white privilege exists. For example, I cherish the ability to be invisible in a crowd.

          I’ve never been one of those bitter RevLeft types who wants everyone to have the same amount of money. I am really good at stretching a dollar, and am happy as long as I can make a livable wage. I can drive through a wealthy neighborhood and simply enjoy looking at the houses, and not give much thought to the fact that I’ll never live there. If I could have a halfway decent social democracy and afford to go to the doctor once in a while (I haven’t been to one in years) other people could be as wealthy as they like.

          I think most of my blue collar relatives would agree. We don’t hate rich people for being rich. We hate them when they insist on making our lives even more difficult than they already are.

          It infuriates me when I hear liberals saying shit like the economy “needs” illegals in formerly good jobs like meatpacking and construction. It infuriates me when liberals piously inform people who complain about cheap poison crap from China that “I don’t see the people in Walmart volunteering to pay higher prices.” Uh, no, idiot. No one was picketing in front of American factories demanding that they lower prices. I look at old newspapers online sometimes. Food and other things cost more back then. It wasn’t a problem, because blue collar jobs paid a living wage back then. The factories moved to Chindia because the owners wanted to make more money. Walmart was forced to lower prices because American wages fell. But I hear people blaming the “People of Walmart” for having to shop there all the fucking time. It doesn’t seem to occur to them that they are parroting neoliberal, corporate talking points.

          My real problem is with the affluent whites who have taken over the left. They’re supposed to be on my side, but they use the “white privilege” argument to scapegoat working class whites. The CRT twats, who control the discourse on the left, are tormented with white guilt, but they don’t want to pay their share of the tab for Western imperialism. So it’s okay for my cousin’s wages in construction to plummet, because “no one is illegal” but I don’t see the people who advocate open borders sharing their wealth or opening up their homes like Dorothy Day did. They wanna have their cake and eat it too.

          As Richard from Lenin’s Tomb recently pointed out, working class whites have not turned to the right, they’ve simply stopped voting and dropped out of the political process. We have rich Republicrats on one side, sending our jobs overseas and attempting to shift the tax burden onto us, and affluent so-called leftists on the other hand calling us “class reductionists” if we point out that “white privilege” is not the same for us as it is for them.

          I’m sure your family is nice. If they don’t waste my time with retarded neoliberal arguments I have nothing against them.

          On the whole, though, if affluent white liberals don’t want working class white people to hate them, they’d better get their shit together, and fast.

        • LaFleur
          December 16, 2010 at 10:23 AM

          Please note, GSG, that my anger is not directed at you. I enjoy your comments here.

        • Gay State Girl
          December 16, 2010 at 1:25 PM

          LaFleur
          I would like to see more proportionate wealth distribution myself, although I feel the actual welfare state itself has a lot of flaws. In Europe there is more proportionate wealth distribution, but a bigger social class stucture. In Europe, education is more affordable but only a small minority can get a good education at a prestigious university. Many people in Europe are considered “ineligible” for higher education based on what secondary school they were sent to and are sent to trade school for a six months to two years and after that they are pretty much stuck in that trade for the rest of their life. So why should someone pay taxes so that someone else can get multiple degrees at a prestigious university with state of the art labs while they work dead end jobs? In the US, university is expensive, but we have a wider variety of schools, and pretty much anyone who wants to can go to college provided that they pay for it themselves. We also have a good, affordable community college system, which serves as a means of social mobility, and gives people who did not do well in high school, a second chance. In Europe, you must take an exam to be accepted into any academic environment even for secondary school.

        • Gay State Girl
          December 16, 2010 at 1:57 PM

          There are also various problems with health care and geriatric, whether it be abuses by illegal immigrants or by muslims who choose to have very large families. It also gets the government into making moral decisions such as determining the standards for quality of life in mentally incompetent older people and sometimes gets the government involved in religious issues like whether life support should be pulled for religious sake and whether the government should continue supporting a person in a vegetative state because their religion dictates that. So there are plenty of flaws. I do not proclaim to be an expert on health care at all so if I am factually incorrect, please enlighten me

          I think the average upper middle class liberals are quite fatigued by insane political correctness and multiculturalism especially my generation as we had it force fed to us in school. People in the northeast are naive about the illegal immigration issue because the numbers are smaller and they generally are more easily assimilable and less hostile than Mexicans in the Southwest. We don’t have a problem with immigrants and I believe the average illegal immigrant who is skilled at a particular trade is more valuable to society than some pompous ass who has a PHD in Diversity studies from Harvard.

  117. tulio
    December 14, 2010 at 11:56 PM

    What’s most pathetic about WNs is that they think whites are somehow victims.

    • Robert Lindsay
      December 15, 2010 at 12:34 AM

      You gotta admit it is comical.

      It’s true of course we are victimized sometimes on the basis of being White, but most humans are on the basis of major things like race.

      On the whole though, we are not victims LOL. That is one of the things that is so laughable about WN’s. I mean, you talk to them, and over and over, it’s “the non-Whites are coming to kill us all!” LOL WTF man it’s so stupid.

      They *all* believe this though, every last one of them.

  118. Gay State Girl
    December 15, 2010 at 12:09 AM

    Tulio Many of them have turned to white nationalism because they were discriminated in their lives, either by minority groups or in most cases because they were traumatized by something else. I’ve seen a lot of young people on SF whom I suspect were bullied in school or abused by their parents (David Duke’s father abused him) and turn to the white nationalist community because they believe it gives them a place of belonging. Most of the members of the hardcore white nationalist movement are the biggest losers.

    • tulio
      December 15, 2010 at 12:18 AM

      I went through a short stint on SF where I was arguing with people. I quickly realized that there were very few people there that seemed all that intelligent. At that point, I bounced.

  119. Gay State Girl
    December 15, 2010 at 5:54 AM

    Mark Zuckerberg is a con man and should be locked up.

    • Matt
      December 15, 2010 at 2:55 PM

      Oh, in Yahweh’s name, not Woody Allen’s weird nephew again.

      • Matt
        December 15, 2010 at 4:32 PM

        BAG, don’t let confirmation bias blind you to the fact that this guy is a loonball. If there is a Jewish conspiracy, do you think the Elders of Zion would let this whackjob anywhere near it? Maybe they’d find some sort of cushy job for him where he could function at a minimal level if he was somebody’s relative, but they wouldn’t tell him all their secrets. If anything he’s saying is true, it’s an accident. He don’t know s**t.

        • Matt
          December 15, 2010 at 4:36 PM

          Actually, the information he presents is interesting, but it’s in the public domain.

        • Bay Area Guy
          December 15, 2010 at 4:47 PM

          Oh yes, Brother Nathanael is indeed a loonball, and a very amusing one at that.

          Hehe :)

          Well, if there is something factually incorrect about his latest video, then by all means explain.

          But at least in this video (not necessarily others) he’s listing names and facts.

        • Gay State Girl
          December 15, 2010 at 4:52 PM

          Did you see the article from 2007? He likes to go to Trader Joes and harass customers.

        • Matt
          December 15, 2010 at 5:12 PM

          I must admit, he seems to be accurate on this one, and indeed it’s more than a little disturbing to have any single group holding all this power. It could be just because Jews are intelligent and well educated, but then where are the Asians?

  121. Gay State Girl
    December 15, 2010 at 4:22 PM

    Bay Area Guy
    This is an oldie but goodie.
    http://www.wickedlocal.com/brookline/news/x1487373823

  122. Gay State Girl
    December 15, 2010 at 5:05 PM

    I had to dig thos up courtesy to Stormfront!

    The Clergy’s Charge
    By David Abel
    Globe Staff
    12/27/2002
    BROOKLINE — When he first showed up a few months ago, the bearded man in the bright Sephardic yarmulke stood out from the synagogue’s other congregants. For one thing, he carried a crucifix. During services, he constantly walked in and out of the sanctuary. And after the rabbi’s sermons, the former salesman would clap – a no-no in any temple.
    At Young Israel of Brookline, the first impulse of most congregants was to help Milton Kapner, a 52-year-old fellow Jew who had been living in his green Buick since the summer. The rabbi welcomed him to services, answered his questions in classes, and bought him a membership to a health spa so he could shower. Others offered him clothes or took him out for dinners at nice restaurants. One woman even gave him a place to stay for the night.
    But after a few months – when, temple officials say, he harassed congregants, crashed a wedding, and twice forced them to call the police – they barred him from the synagogue. Most recently, Kapner, who plays music for money in Harvard Square, stood in front of the temple and heckled congregants as they arrived for services.
    “We don’t know what to do with him,” said Jerry Baronofsky, the orthodox synagogue’s president, who has sought help from Jewish Family and Children’s Services, a social-services provider. “We want to help him, but the truth is we’re not sure the best way to go about it.”
    It’s a quandary common to many churches and synagogues: As more needy people seek shelter and sustenance from religious institutions, where does a congregation draw the line between its interests, whether it be security or order in the sanctuary, and its mission to help the poor?
    Clergy members at churches and synagogues throughout the area say they’ve seen a rise in the number of needy people, many of them homeless, who slip in for meals after services or sit quietly to stay warm for a while.
    For the most part, unless they’re disruptive, the needy are welcomed, or at least tolerated. Some of the major churches in downtown Boston even have street ministries, special outreach offices for the homeless. On Tremont Street, the Episcopal Cathedral of St. Paul, for example, provides pastoral counseling, referral services, and a telephone to those in need.
    Not all churches or synagogues are as welcoming. In some cases, those scruffy, loud newcomers who aren’t members or are deemed to be dressed inappropriately are turned away at the door.
    “They won’t let them in either because of past problems or because they anticipate the person isn’t going to behave within the norms of the institution,” said the Rev. Deborah W. Little, who founded Common Cathedral, an outdoor worshipping community of about 150 homeless people in Boston. “It’s not always easy to find the right balance.”
    At St. Paul’s, long a draw for the homeless, church officials had to hire a security guard because so many people crowded onto their porch, either to sleep or do drugs. Recently, after someone rubbed feces on the wall of one of the bathrooms, they decided to review an old policy of allowing the homeless to use the toilet.
    “Many of the homeless are members of our congregation in good standing,” said the Rev. Sarah Fike of St. Paul’s. “But sometimes it can be a struggle with maintaining as much openness as possible and the necessary safety and cleanliness. Our kids, after all, need clean bathrooms.”
    The Arlington Street Church, which also attracts many homeless, especially to its Friday night “supper club,” has a special policy for those who disrupt services. When someone disrupts repeatedly, said associate minister Carol Strecker, church officials approach the person and ask them to agree to a verbal contract. Often, in order to stay, the person must consent to therapy sessions and to allow a church member to sit next to them during services.
    Sometimes, however, no matter how hard church officials try, the disruptive person is beyond help – and can be a threat to the congregation.
    At the Park Street Church, one homeless man reached into the collection basket and instead of adding a donation, he grabbed all the cash. Church officials called the police.
    At the Ruggles Baptist Church on Beacon Street, according to the Rev. Larry Showalter, one woman insisted on remaining after hours to play the piano. When church officials asked her to leave, she refused. When they banned her from entering, she began stalking them, demanding they let her in to play the piano. After she violated a restraining order, police arrested her and sent her to jail for six months.
    “It’s sad when there’s nothing you can do to help,” Showalter said.
    For the congregants of Young Israel, which like many synagogues is increasingly security-conscious since Sept. 11, Milton Kapner never posed a physical threat. But the fast-talking guest, who told congregants he graduated from Columbia University and lost his home in Needham, began making people feel uncomfortable, even chasing some away from services.
    “The truth is he was welcome here, as long as he followed the rules,” said Robert Wolff, the synagogue’s former president. “But after a while, people lost their patience.”
    Approached recently at the McDonald’s on Harvard Street, where he often cajoles people to buy him a free meal, Kapner refused to speak. In a previous phone interview, he complained: “I’ve been excommunicated. It’s the worst thing that can happen to a Jew.”
    A few days later, after a crossing guard reported Kapner was endangering himself walking through traffic on Washington Street, he ambled into Brookline District Court and started screaming, police said. Health officials decided to commit him to a hospital, where he will stay until doctors release him.
    “Maybe this is the best thing for him,” said Baronofsky, Young Israel’s president. “Hopefully, it will help.”
    David Abel can be reached at dabel@globe.com.
    Copyright, The Boston Globe
    posted by David Abel

  123. Gay State Girl
    December 15, 2010 at 5:16 PM

    Ah Universal hub
    Does Brother Nathanael have a secret?
    By adamg – 6/12/07 – 2:22 pm
    A couple days before Brother Nathanael had his run-in with police at Trader Joe’s, Rhine watched and photographed him at the end of his shift – at 6 p.m., he put away his giant crucifix, folded up his stuff and left that traffic island he screams from when not yelling at little old Jewish ladies at Trader Joe’s. And then Rhine noticed that Brother Nathanael had dropped something:

    … What Brother Nathanael dropped was a prepaid card with a scratch box for 30 free minutes from a gay adult website. Now there are many reasons as to why he could have had the prepaid card: It could be a prop he uses when he preaches that everyone is going to hell, or just something that was handed to him by a random solicitor, or maybe it actually was his.

  124. Gay State Girl
    December 16, 2010 at 1:11 AM

    Looks like some Paul supporters are against Obama’s tax deal.

    http://www.randpaul2010.com/2010/12/the-obama-gop-deal-a-tax-hike-for-the-working-poor/

    We have more allies than we think.

  125. Gay State Girl
    December 17, 2010 at 1:43 AM

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/why-im-posting-bail-money_b_796319.html

    Shut up Michael Moore. Hollywood support does more damage to the image of the Democratic Party. He’s extremely repulsive and Fahrenheit 9/11 caused Bush’s second term. I wish Hollywood would stay out of politics and charitable causes. They do more harm than good. Celebrities cheapen the image of the image of the Democratic Party, as well as the causes they support and then they cut deals to protect their own interests! They set up false charitable organizations so they can evade their own taxes.

  126. Gay State Girl
    December 17, 2010 at 8:10 AM

    Michael Moore is like King Midas in that every political cause he touches turns to shit.

  127. Wade in MO
    December 21, 2010 at 1:19 PM

    I think our friend AJ is back. Someone commented on AMREN yesterday named AJ and the comment was very white nationalist. It’s no guarantee, but it could be him.

  128. Gay State Girl
    December 30, 2010 at 10:51 PM

    Ick they’re having “Holocaust Awareness Week” at Northeastern University to counter “Israeli Apartheid Week.” I wish organized jewry would just shut up and let the muslims make asses out of themselves. Jews are getting dumber by the day.

    • Bay Area Guy
      December 30, 2010 at 11:21 PM

      At my UC, AFI (Anteaters for Israel) organizes a pro-Israel week to counter the Israeli Apartheid Week led by the MSU (Muslim Student Union). They erect various signs listing Israel’s accomplishments, as well as famous Israelis. They also have signs denouncing Hamas, calling them violent Jew haters, extremist radicals, etc.

      I swear, if I have to hear ONE more damn thing about the holocaust or Nazis, I’m going to scream. Jews have definitely overplayed that card.

      I wish organized jewry would just shut up and let the muslims make asses out of themselves.

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: The best thing for Jews to do is simply sit down and shut up.

      You’re right. Muslims aren’t exactly very likable in this country, and most people aren’t going to react positively to their Israeli Apartheid Weeks.

      But the more Jews continue to scream “anti-Semitism” and invoke the holocaust for the millionth time, and the more people find out about the harm Israeli has caused the U.S., the more they might start giving Jews the side-eye.

      Jews are getting dumber by the day.

      They should’ve quit while they were ahead.

      While the white goyim are temporarily blind to the Jewish Question, they’ll wake up sooner or later, as they start to feel the squeeze, and start noticing the Jewishness present in the highest echelons of power.

      Also, thanks to Israel, Jews are now hated by the entire Arab and Muslim world as well.

      The blacks and Hispanics they claim to champion don’t exactly like them either, and won’t be moved by the holocaust or charges of “anti-Semitism,”
      and won’t give a shit about their precious Israel.

      And when China takes over (and mark my words, they will), they won’t give a crap about holocaust guilt or supporting Israel. If Israel were to attack one of their allies such as Iran, they’d have no problem with teaching them a lesson.

      Many Jews are running scared, hence the charges of “the new anti-Semitism.” And they should be.

      Sooner or later, many Americans (white Americans in particular) are going to wake up, recognize the vices that are causing the decay of this country, and notice the heavily Jewish fingerprints on them.

      They should’ve quit while they were ahead. Now, they’re setting themselves up for a backlash. In a way, we’re already seeing that backlash, as evidenced by increasing anti-Israel sentiment in the U.S. (if not among American elites), various public figures (such as Rick Sanchez, Helen Thomas, those two Greek bishops, as well as that Turkish politician) blaming/criticizing Israel and Jews, etc.

      Sadly, Jews cannot just settle down and live like normal people. They’re very busy bees. As Brother Nathanael would say, they always have to foment, they always have to criticize, they always have to revolutionize. Or what Kevin MacDonald would call “the culture of critique.”

      Well, I think now it’s time for Jews to start enduring some of that “critique.”

    • Wade in MO
      December 30, 2010 at 11:42 PM

      “Ick they’re having “Holocaust Awareness Week” at Northeastern University to counter “Israeli Apartheid Week.” ”

      I’m going to counter both by having a “I don’t give a fuck” week becuase I really don’t give a shit about the holocaust (not capitalized) or israel. If the jews and muslims would just shut their fucking mouths I would be just fine with letting them kill each other in peace. Unfortunately the jews have to drag us into their conflicts and the muslims want everyone to think that they’re some group of victims so now their garbage now affects us. The Turner Diaries did manage to get one thing right: Nuke Israel. After that, nuke Mecca. Keep shooting them and bombing them until they stay quiet. End of problem.

      • Gay State Girl
        December 31, 2010 at 12:07 AM

        Thank you Wade. Now go post bthat over at Mondoweiss. Many of the people there have lost their minds. They treat Arab culture and Islam as sacred and above criticism simply because they are a supposed “victim group.” and Palestinians are the eternal victims of human history. The sad thing is many of these people are fed up paleocons (dinosaurs). Spare me.

        • Bay Area Guy
          December 31, 2010 at 12:31 AM

          There’s just something about Semites, be they Jews or Arabs, that just doesn’t allow them to sit down and shut their traps.

          They always have to include everyone else in their shenanigans.

        • Gay State Girl
          December 31, 2010 at 12:47 AM

          I’m not even referring to Arabs or blacks or hispanics or any other minority now. They are O-K in my book. It’s their pet white cultural marxists idiots that get on my nerves. If only we could deport them instead. And the dinosaurs who have adopted the Palestinian cause come across as super hypocritical, even if they did not have a history of racism.

    • johnUK
      December 31, 2010 at 9:14 AM

      @Bay Area Guy

      Yes they use this Holocaust crap to get us involved in wars were we secretly run covert operations on phoney genocide charges which people like Robert fall for like the Balkans, Chechnya (although that failed) and anywhere else the Empire wants us to be even created a Genocide Task Force shared by white Jewish supremacists Albright and Cohen who were involved in the genocide against the Serbs who were paid lobbyists for the Israeli/Jewish supported Turkish government funded lobby organisations against recognition of the Armenian genocide.

      “How hypocritical of Madeleine Albright and William Cohen, former Secretaries of State and Defense, to announce the formation of a task force on prevention of genocide, when two months ago they wrote a letter to the U.S. Congress against a resolution on the Armenian Genocide!”

      http://wvwnews.net/story.php?id=2469

      It is suddenly OK now for the US now that Israel has fallen out of favour with Turkey to recognise the Armenian genocide although it was blocked for years by Jewish and pro-Israeli elements.

      Interesting how they have also suddenly taken up the nationalist cause in Eastern Europe of Ukrainians, Chechens, Tatars, Albanians, Bosnians, Croats , etc well except those aligned with Russia like the Rusyns, Abkhazians, Ossetian’s, Terek Cossack’s and smaller pro-Russian minority groups in the North Caucasus.

      “Moscow For All,” a rally against racism and ethnic violence, took place today in the Russian capital, with protesters condemning attacks on ethnic minorities and the recent ultranationalist riot in the city.

      Mumin Shakirov, a correspondent for RFE/RL’s Russian Service, said several thousand Muscovites joined organizers of the rally — writers, actors, scientists, and human rights defenders, among others.

      Participants at the rally condemned the ultranationalist and racist mood among some of Russia’s youth and a lack of tolerance toward ethnic minorities (Although it was a Caucasian and a Caucasian gang that initiated it by killing an ethnic Russia and the riots were pre-arranged organized battles by both fascist Russian and Caucasian groups)

      Shenderovich read out a message from Yelena Bonner, the prominent Russian human rights defender, who called herself a “Muscovite, Jew, and Caucasus national.”

      “Count me among those who came to Pushkin Square to defend the country once again,” she said.

      http://www.rferl.org/content/moscow_ethnic_violence_rally_xenophobia/2259392.html

      • Wade in MO
        December 31, 2010 at 10:39 PM

        “It is suddenly OK now for the US now that Israel has fallen out of favour with Turkey to recognise the Armenian genocide although it was blocked for years by Jewish and pro-Israeli elements. ”

        I always knew that Turkey was a jewslave country. The best way to handle the Turkey problem is to have anatolia ruled from Constantinople by a new byzantine emperor.

        “Interesting how they have also suddenly taken up the nationalist cause in Eastern Europe of Ukrainians, Chechens, Tatars, Albanians, Bosnians, Croats , etc well except those aligned with Russia like the Rusyns, Abkhazians, Ossetian’s, Terek Cossack’s and smaller pro-Russian minority groups in the North Caucasus.”

        Yeah, it’s always funny that the US will support nationalism in other countries, but when it comes to nationalism in countries where nationalist governmetns may be anti american (like the Front National in France) nationalism is regarded as the worst evil.

        It’s also funny how people say Russian nationalist claims that Ukraine is really just a region of Russia are imperialistic, but Ukrainian claims over the Rusyns are treated as completely legitimate.

  129. Gay State Girl
    December 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM

    I never did have any sympathy for Helen Thomas.

  130. Gay State Girl
    December 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM

    Happy New Year Everybody!

  131. Gay State Girl
    January 2, 2011 at 5:43 PM

    Gay Area Guy
    Wherefore art thou?

  132. Gay State Girl
    January 3, 2011 at 8:59 PM

    What’s your AIM by the way?

  133. Bay Area Guy
    January 4, 2011 at 4:39 PM

    Yuck, disgusting!

    http://www.parentdish.com/2011/01/03/princess-boy/?icid=maing|main5|dl3|sec1_lnk3|34316

    Sorry Mama, but there is something wrong with your kid.

  135. Bay Area Guy
    January 5, 2011 at 11:23 AM

    Yet more proof that “racist” simply means white person.

    http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2011/01/05/are-you-against-the-genocide-in-darfur/

    So if majority white countries don’t intervene in Rwanda, then they’re racists who are neglecting black life and indifferent to black-on-black genocide. But if they are opposed to the genocide in Darfur or other parts of Africa, then they’re also racist.

    If white cops don’t patrol black neighborhoods or respond to criminal acts, than they’re racists neglecting black life. But if they do watch over crime-ridden black neighborhoods and profile potential criminals, then that’s “profiling” and police brutality, which is also racist.

    If whites move out of a neighborhood that blacks are moving into, that’s white flight, and it’s racist. But if they move into a majority black neighborhood, then that’s gentrification, and that’s also racist.

    If white people participate in racial discussions but don’t kiss black ass, then they’re accused of being “domineering” and “invoking white privilege.” But if they don’t participate in these discussions, they’re accused of avoidance.

    (Abagond’s blog, particularly the debates with Thad, is ample evidence in this regard)

    If blacks are in films with a predominantly white cast, and they aren’t depicted as sufficiently heroic or central to the plot, or if they embody any negative stereotypes, then that’s racist. But if blacks are too heroic and central to the plot, and don’t exhibit any black stereotypes, then that’s the magical negro trope, and that’s also racist.

    And the list goes on and on.

    White people, no matter what you do, blacks and leftists (like that self-hating white prick who wrote that article) will call you racist, because racist simply means white person.

    • LaFleur
      January 5, 2011 at 11:50 AM

      If you don’t care about Africa you’re a racist. If you go to work in Africa you are also a racist:

      http://gurlgoestoafrica.tumblr.com/

      Zuky approves of this site. The same Zuky who romanticizes his Han warrior ancestors, yet never mentions the millions of people who used to be considered something other than Han, but whose tribes are forgotten because they were on the losing side. The same Zuky who fantasizes that China’s current excursions into Africa are about trade with a people they consider their equals (ha!). Never mind the fact that China is in dire need of water and farmland because they’ve turned their own country into a toxic shithole in less than 30 years.

      All non-white conquest can be tolerated or even celebrated. It’s only evil if you’ve been the best at it thanks to your superior technology.

      Here’s what he has to say about the above-mentioned website:

      http://zuky.tumblr.com/post/1336844839

      Generally speaking, white people are funny. White people who lack social-political-historical self-awareness while interacting with brown people in brown countries, are especially funny. White people who have not yet distanced themselves enough from their own whiteness to see the dark humor in the role of white people in the world, are extremely funny.

      This isn’t harsh. Know what’s harsh? The actual role of white people in the world. Colonialism. Racism. Slavery. Genocide. Imperialism. White supremacist corporatist neo-colonialism. Know what’s funny? White people who are unable to see their own place in that social-political-historical context, and yet remain so immersed in its ideology that they feel qualified to huffily instruct brown people not to laugh at the ridiculous antics of white people who are guests in brown countries.

      How about the Tutsi and Hutu killing 800,000 of each other in 100 days, Zuky? Is that harsh? How many more people could have died if they’d had more than machetes to work with?

      • Bay Area Guy
        January 5, 2011 at 8:57 PM

        Here’s a formula I’ve developed for dealing with radical non-whites like Zuky.

        If they call you a racist, DO NOT:

        1) Deny it
        2) Argue
        3) Get Defensive

        First, ask them to define “racist.” If they then proceed to give you the CRT definition of racism, laugh in their faces and say, “well of course I’m a racist, since racist means white person.” Or say, “yeah, I guess I’m a racist. So what?”

        In general, do not let them debate you on their terms. Ask them to define what “racism” and “privilege” entail. More often than not, they have no clue, and just use those terms to score rhetorical points.

        • Wade in MO
          January 5, 2011 at 11:24 PM

          “Or say, “yeah, I guess I’m a racist. So what?” ”

          You should mock them and live up to the genocidal image of whites that they espouse.

          For example, when this idiot Zuky says,

          “This isn’t harsh. Know what’s harsh? The actual role of white people in the world. Colonialism. Racism. Slavery. Genocide. Imperialism. White supremacist corporatist neo-colonialism. Know what’s funny?”

          When he says “Know what’s funny?” you should then say, “Yes, I do. Everything you just said is hilarious. We got those darkies good. Go us!”

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 5, 2011 at 11:28 PM

          Yeah, when non-whites verbally attack whites, they expect us to cower and grovel.

          Mocking/laughing at them and saying things along the lines of, “yup, it’s funny. We sure got those darkies good!” will frustrate them tremendously.

          Don’t let them speak to you on their terms.

      • Bay Area Guy
        January 5, 2011 at 9:01 PM

        Actually, here’s the best formula for dealing with radical non-whites: DON’T.

        I’ve long since stopped reading Abagond or Ank Mie’s blog, and couldn’t care less what Zuky thinks.

        Me debating a CRT is like a member of Hamas debating a Zionist, a traditional Christian debating a gay activist or creationist, a Hindu nationalist debating a Muslim, etc.

        There’s just no point. All that happens is people generate a bunch of useless steam and get nowhere.

        The ONE CRT that I’m still willing to debate is Tulio, since he’s more moderate and much less confrontational and snarky than his fellow anti-racists.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 5, 2011 at 9:07 PM

          All non-white conquest can be tolerated or even celebrated. It’s only evil if you’ve been the best at it thanks to your superior technology.

          Just imagine how much worse historical, pre-colonial non-white warfare would have been if they had the advanced technology of Europeans.

          Can you imagine Ghenghis Khan with howitzers or machine guns at his disposal?

          And yes, non-white conquest is indeed romanticized. This why radical Hispanics romanticize the Aztec Empire (which was barbaric and oppressive in its own right), and blacks like Abagond romanticize Ancient Egypt, whose blackness is not up for debate, according to them.

          (not to mention Egypt was also an oppressive empire that enslaved people to build their precious pyramids)

          Han Chinese conquest is romanticized by Zuky, and I’m sure the Arab conquests are romanticized by Arab Americans.

          All non-white conquest and warfare, even genocide, is celebrated. But even the slightest act of aggression by whites against non-whites is elevated to genocide.

          Whites simply cannot win with these people, so there’s no point in even trying.

        • LaFleur
          January 5, 2011 at 9:16 PM

          I don’t look at those blogs anymore either nowadays. I was just reminded of that one Zuky comment by your post. I refuse to give them the hits.

          If anyone ever gives me the “white privilege” or “mighty white” spiel, I’ll just laugh quietly to myself and walk away. Indifference is the worst punishment for a blowhard.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 5, 2011 at 9:20 PM

          Indifference is the worst punishment for a blowhard.

          Agreed.

          From now on, I flat-out refuse to debate any blacks or anti-racists on racial matters.

          From now on, I’ll just laugh at them or ignore them. There’s just no point in discussing these matters with someone who will never agree with you anyway.

        • Wade in MO
          January 5, 2011 at 11:48 PM

          “Just imagine how much worse historical, pre-colonial non-white warfare would have been if they had the advanced technology of Europeans.”

          Actually, they were extemely brutal and widespread despite the lower level of technology. ( Even in modern times, much killng was done n Rwanda with machetes.)

          In this link answer 2 quotes the Encyclodpedia Britannica article on Tamerlane.

          http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100526215918AAksxPk

          Some excepts:
          “. Northern Iraq remained predominantly Assyrian Christian until the destructions of Timur”

          “Sources claim that when Timur conquered Persia, Iraq and Syria, the civilian population was decimated. In the city of Isfahan, he ordered the building of a pyramid of 70,000 human skulls, from those that his army had beheaded,[20][21] and a pyramid of some 20,000 skulls was erected outside of Aleppo.[22] Timur herded thousands of citizens of Damascus into the Cathedral Mosque before setting it aflame,[23] and had 70,000 people beheaded in Tikrit, and 90,000 more in Baghdad. As many as 17 million people may have died from his conquests. Probably these numbers are inflated.Timur is historically considered to be a contradictory and controversial figure, as was the case even during his lifetime. He was a patron of the arts, but also destroyed the great centres of learning during his conquests.”

          The Wikipedia article (which is surprisingly well sourced) says:
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur
          “The conquests of Timur are claimed to have caused the deaths of up to 17 million people; an opinion impossible to verify.[36] Timur’s campaigns sometimes caused large and permanent demographic changes, northern Iraq remained predominantly Assyrian Christian until attacked, looted, plundered and destroyed by Timur leaving its population decimated by systematic mass slaughter. All churches were destroyed and any survivors forcefully converted to Islam by the sword.”

          (Normally I don’t like refering to wikipedia too much, but I checked the two sources for those quotes and they seem legit.)

          You would think that admiring a man that everyone agrees was a mass murderer would be something confined to the ourskirts of society (kind of like admiring Hitler), but this motherfucker is considered the national hero of Uzbekistan. This doesn’t even register on the radar of CRT hypocrites.

  136. LaFleur
    January 5, 2011 at 5:09 PM

    Don’t order bacon at a “halal-friendly” KFC in Australia, whatever you do.

    The sign behind the counter reads “not halal” but apparently they don’t serve pork there.

  137. LaFleur
    January 5, 2011 at 9:00 PM

    Okay, I take it all back. Tim Wise is right. Susan Sontag is right. There is no atoning for this:

  138. Bay Area Guy
    January 6, 2011 at 12:11 AM

    Wow, am I reading this right? Is the ADL actually condemning Israeli discrimination?

    http://www.adl.org/ADL_Opinions/Israel/20110104-Op-ed+Jewish+Week.htm

    They’ve really started to do damage control every since their latest blunders!

    (ie. opposition to the ground zero mosque, giving an award to Rupert Murdoch, and blacklisting anti-Israel organizations, which exposed them as a Ziocon organization)

  139. Bay Area Guy
    January 7, 2011 at 3:37 PM

    Some more TNB on display. Also pay attention to the heavy ebonics in the background.

  140. Gay State Girl
    January 8, 2011 at 10:37 AM

    LOL Phil Weiss is all giddy that David Lauren proposed Lauren Bush. Honestly I don’t give a horses a** who marries who and I think breeding with non jews could help eliminate Ashkenazi genetic diseases. The problem is Phil Weiss gets all wet in his pants when a jew marries into an elite WASP family, like we should be thrilled that *they* accepted *us* and we should be kissing their toes in gratitude. he thinks that successful jews should aspire to marry into elite WASP families and that those unions should be used as a measure for jewish success in America.

    • LaFleur
      January 8, 2011 at 11:32 AM

      Lauren Lauren?

    • Hacienda
      January 8, 2011 at 1:48 PM

      “he thinks that successful jews should aspire to marry into elite WASP families”

      I think this is a terrific idea. Also the Jew lawyers/businesspeople should marry into welfare black families. Gotta walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

      • Bay Area Guy
        January 8, 2011 at 1:52 PM

        Also the Jew lawyers/businesspeople should marry into welfare black families. Gotta walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

        Exactly.

        Jews should also have to start advocating open borders/non-Jewish immigration for Israel. They also should be required to support multiculturalism and Israeli Jewish guilt, just like they promote white guilt here in the U.S.

        It’s time for Jews to put their money where there mouth is.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 8, 2011 at 1:53 PM

          *their*

          By the way Robert, I agree with Lafleur. You need a new open topic page, because it keeps freezing up and slowing my computer down.

        • Gay State Girl
          January 8, 2011 at 2:32 PM

          Yeah Daddy always said Israel should expand its borders and take in some goyishe white South Africans and Zimbabweans.

      • Gay State Girl
        January 8, 2011 at 1:53 PM

        Excellent idea. Starting with Weiss. He should divorce his WASP trophy bride and marry a poor oppressed burqa clad Palestinian woman.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 8, 2011 at 1:56 PM

          Excellent idea. Starting with Weiss. He should divorce his WASP trophy bride and marry a poor oppressed burqa clad Palestinian woman.

          Agreed!

      • Groucho Marx
        January 9, 2011 at 5:29 PM

        To Hacienda and BAG:

        I think this is a terrific idea. Also the Jew lawyers/businesspeople should marry into welfare black families. Gotta walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

        Naw… I am more into Korean women….

        As Blacks and Jews been there, done that…

        Ishmael Reed married a Jewish Woman and produced a “Black” activist daughter. Nancy Nadel a self hating Jewish woman who sits on the Oakland city council married an even more useless Black man than Ismael Reed and produced another “Black” activist daughter:
        http://www2.oaklandnet.com/oakca/groups/citycouncil/documents/image/oak022693.jpg

        Then there have quite a few unions between Black musicians and Jews. The offspring of those unions have generally worked out better unions between Black “activists” and Jews:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Bonet
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Kravitz
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Rudolph

  141. Gay State Girl
    January 8, 2011 at 11:59 AM

    That would just about kill old Barbie. Jeb had a jewish girlfriend in the ’70′s and she wouldn’t let her in the house.

    • Gay State Girl
      January 8, 2011 at 12:57 PM

      People are pointing fingers at the tea party crowd but keep in mind that Giffords supports/supported border control so it could also be an Aztlanista.

  143. Gay State Girl
    January 8, 2011 at 1:25 PM

    Doctors expect Giffords to pull through. She’s going to be metally retarded though.

    • Robert Lindsay
      January 8, 2011 at 1:40 PM

      Damn that is so fucking horrible.

      • chic noir
        January 8, 2011 at 7:50 PM

        yes, that is very sad. I think it’s probably worse to be alive if you have to suffer like that. Hopefully the congresswoman can make a full recovery.

        I see those sorts(gunman) hanging out on the r-sphere.

    • LaFleur
      January 8, 2011 at 1:43 PM

      Suspect’s name is Jared Laughner, 22 year old white kid. Apparently his MySpace page is still up.

      Think we need a new Open Topic page? This one filled up really fast and seems to load pretty slow.

  144. Gay State Girl
    January 8, 2011 at 2:22 PM

    No more townhall meetings or meet and greets or livev events for politicians :(

  145. Gay State Girl
    January 8, 2011 at 2:36 PM

    Jared Laughner aparently was a frequent commenter at Free Republic.

    • LaFleur
      January 8, 2011 at 2:44 PM

      His YouTube channel is here at least for now:

      http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4

      I didn’t make it through the entire clip, but it’s got a lot of Tea Party stuff in it complaining about federalist laws and currency not backed by gold or silver.

      • Wade in MO
        January 8, 2011 at 4:50 PM

        “A 22-year-old woman in Arizona, Caitie Parker, claimed on her Twitter feed that she went to high school and college with the gunman, and was in a band with him. She described his politics in the past as “left wing, quite liberal, & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy.” ”

        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40980334/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001

        • LaFleur
          January 8, 2011 at 5:44 PM

          That’s weird. What I saw on the video was more like Freeper boilerplate stuff. The part that made sense anyway. Maybe he really was a lone nutter who couldn’t decide on an identity.

          I’m afraid this went over my head:

          If I teach a mentally capable 8 year old for 20 consecutive
          minutes to replace an alphabet letter with a new letter and
          pronunciation then the mentally capable 8 year old writes
          and pronounces the new letter and pronunciation that’s
          replacing an alphabet letter in 20 consecutive minutes.
          I teach a mentally capable 8 year old for 20 consecutive
          minutes to replace an alphabet letter with a new letter and
          pronunciation.

          Thus, the mentally capable 8 year old writes and pronounces
          the new letter and pronunciation that replaces an alphabet
          letter in 20 consecutive minutes.

          Every human who’s mentally capable is always able to be treasurer of their new currency.

        • Wade in MO
          January 8, 2011 at 8:41 PM

          “I’m afraid this went over my head”

          It probably went under your head. It just sounds like nonsense.

  146. Gay State Girl
    January 8, 2011 at 2:57 PM

    Leave it to Philip Weiss to find a Palestinian angle to the Gifford shooting. He did with the repeal of DADT. He thinks the world revolves around his beloved Palestinians.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 8, 2011 at 3:11 PM

      Wait, how did he manage to incorporate Palestinians into this?

      I don’t have much respect for Jewish Palestinophiles, any more than I respect negrophiles like Tim Wise.

  147. Gay State Girl
    January 8, 2011 at 3:38 PM

    I’m anticipating it. He wrote a long piece comparing freedom of homosexuals to serve openinly in the military to justice for the Palestinians, a group which persecutes homosexuals. I’m not a fan of the gay scene but let them have their day of glory without corrupting it with your own agenda. I don’t really care so much about Phil, he’s just an arrogant fuck who thinks he knows everything because he went to Harvard. But he’s not introspective at all; he nevver challenges his position. I find the dinosaurs (paleo cons) to be particularly amusing, Some of these people were the biggest racists prior to discovering the US/Israel relationship who have embraced the Palestinian cause and a holier than thou attitude vis a vis the rest of society (who haven’t discovered the jewish conspiracy.)

  148. Gay State Girl
    January 8, 2011 at 3:40 PM

    vis a vis I mean in regards to.

  149. Gay State Girl
    January 8, 2011 at 5:40 PM

    Jane Fonda is just fanning the flames. Can’t hollywood understand that they are only alienating a crucial voting bloc from supporting the democratic party? But thats how people are. They don’t care about how they come across, how they affect people, they just take polarizing positions so they can cement their names in the history textbooks.

  150. Gay State Girl
    January 8, 2011 at 6:08 PM

    Now Keith Olbermann is bragging that he donated to Gabrielle Giffords. I wish hollywood would shup and stay out of political affairs. They are only alienating people. Now you will see celebrities exploiting this, not for a political agenda but sorely for their own benefit, to bring relevance to themselves.