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  2. Bay Area Guy
    January 10, 2011 at 9:15 AM

    Wow, if even Jack Straw dares to criticize non-whites in the UK, I think whites world wide are finally saying “enough is enough” with regards to PC and multiculturalism.

    Fuck Pakis.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/08/jack-straw-white-girls-easy-meat

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 10, 2011 at 9:17 AM

      And hey, like Wade said, we whites men need to start raping more coloreds. Only then will racial equality and harmony be achieved! ;-)

      (waiting for some CRT turd to point out that white men raped black women during the days of slavery and Jim Crow)

      • Gay State Girl (formerly Olive)
        January 10, 2011 at 9:39 AM

        Oh yes Israeli soldiers are accused of racism because of the relatively low rate of sexual abuse in the IDF compared to the violence.

  3. Bay Area Guy
    January 10, 2011 at 9:24 AM

    Wow, just wow. Modern day liberalism really has turned the U.S. into a bad joke.

    http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2011/01/10/mexican-uses-fake-name-then-sues-cops-for-believing-it/

    In a saner era, this doofus would have been laughed out of the courtroom and punished for launching such a frivolous lawsuit, seeing as how his dumb ass created his own predicament by giving a false name.

    As James Edwards of TPC would say, “you cannot make this stuff up.”

  4. Gay State Girl (formerly Olive)
    January 10, 2011 at 9:42 AM

    Gay Area Guy and FP3YP
    I don’t want to police the internet but more characters are being identified by the shit they put on the internet.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 10, 2011 at 9:47 AM

      Oh I know.

      Hence, you’ve never seen me advocate any unlawful or violent actions. Not that I would anyway, because they’re counterproductive.

      (my comment about raping coloreds was tongue-in-cheek, and I was not advocating specific unlawful action)

      However, I do have the right to think the way I do. Even the thought police cannot put me in jail for that.

      more characters are being identified by the shit they put on the internet.

      We partially have your Jewish ADL to thank for that.

      • Bay Area Guy
        January 10, 2011 at 9:54 AM

        The standard for whether or not my kind of offensive speech violates the 1st amendment is “imminent lawless action,” as established by the Supreme Court case of Brandenburg v. Ohio.

        For example, Brandenburg was a klansman, who decided to hold a rally somewhere in Ohio. And they said typical klan stuff (ie. kikes back to Israel, niggers back to Africa, we’re going to make America white again, etc).

        He was charged with incitement, but because his rally only consisted of klansmen and reporters, and was thus not likely to result in violence/conflict, the Supreme Court overturned his conviction.

        Now, had he gone to some integrated area in Cleveland, espoused klan ideology, and then caused a fight, his words wouldn’t have been protected speech, because they were likely to incite imminent lawless action.

        Unless the thought police have completely taken over this country, I think I’m safe.

        • Gay State Girl
          January 10, 2011 at 10:25 AM

          I was referring to FP3YP not you. I understand that was said tongue in cheek but you have to be very careful in general especially now. the FBI is going to analyze and dissect everything that goes out on the internet as if they were high school english teachers (you know I’m not a fan of the great five paragraph essay.) Obama wants to create internet IDs for all Americans so that the government can monitor our internet activity.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 10, 2011 at 10:48 AM

          Yeah, we sure ought to thank Obama for all his “hope and change.”

          He’s definitely giving us “change,” all right. As Paul Craig Roberts and others noted a while back, this country is increasingly becoming a police state.

        • Gay State Girl
          January 10, 2011 at 12:08 PM

          But look on the bright side. It will create more jobs. :)

  5. Gay State Girl
    January 10, 2011 at 9:57 AM

    I would be interested to hear what the end of timers have to say about Arizona.

  6. Bay Area Guy
    January 10, 2011 at 12:37 PM

    Hunter Wallace has an interesting take on the Giffords shooting, one which I agree with.

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2011/01/10/violence-and-vanguardists/#more-8617

    While probably not true, one cannot help but wonder if this deranged lunatic was a leftist plant.

    Think about it. Arizona and various other states were about to push forward Arizona style immigration laws, attack birthright citizenship, continue to ban affirmative action and ethnic studies, etc.

    Then, along comes this crazy shooter.

    Now, Obama has his Oklahoma City moment, the left is already politicizing this issue in order to denounce “right wing extremism” and pathologize any forms of right wing activism by linking it to this shooting (even going so far as to link him to American Renaissance of all places, which even the ADL and SPLC don’t regard as anti-Semitic).

    As Rahm Emanuel once said, “never let a good crisis go to waste.” Well, the left certainly won’t let this one go to waste. Giffords will become a martyr, a symbol of the diabolical nature of those not on the left.

    I’m sure Uncle Tim will have a field day with this one. It will allow him to make cute remarks about white spree killers and right wingers.

    My message to any potential white lunatic out there: If you’re going to try to kill somehow, please just kill yourself and spare us the misery of your deeds. And to any vanguardist (as Hunter Wallace would call them) white nationalist out there, don’t kill anyone in our name. You’re just hurting our cause.

    You’re just giving the left ammunition and turning people into martyrs.

    As Wallace pointed out, the killings of JFK and MLK turned them into martyrs, and immortalized them for eternity. Had they not been killed, they would have eventually been discredited, and people like Teddy Kennedy or multicultural activists wouldn’t have been able to so easily ride the legacy of those two people.

    I hope that Tim Wise Barack Obama, and every other prominent leftist lives to be old and comfortable. I don’t want them becoming martyrs.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 10, 2011 at 12:42 PM

      While we’ll never know the true motivation of this disgusting act, this deranged shooter has certainly given the left a gold mine.

      • Gay State Girl
        January 10, 2011 at 12:52 PM

        Bay Area Guy
        Gabrielle Giffords was more of a centrist. She had a more moderate view on immigration. She supported Amnesty of course but was stringent on border control. She also supported gun rights (how ironic.) She also called for toning down harsh rhetoric in both parties. She could hardly be considered a martyr for the left wing.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 10, 2011 at 12:56 PM

          Agreed, but that’s besides the point.

          Regardless of her actual political views, the left will still USE her tragedy as a way to score rhetorical and political points.

          If they can in any way, shape, or form link the shooter to anything right wing, they won’t let us hear the end of it.

      • Gay State Girl
        January 10, 2011 at 12:56 PM

        Scratch that. I think you haave something there. The Laughners will not let the FBI search their house so maybe they are hiding something. Maybe there is merit to what you are saying.

      • Wade in MO
        January 10, 2011 at 2:11 PM

        “While we’ll never know the true motivation of this disgusting act, this deranged shooter has certainly given the left a gold mine.”

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

    • LaFleur
      January 10, 2011 at 1:36 PM

      I’m sure Uncle Tim will have a field day with this one.

      He already has:

      http://www.timwise.org/2011/01/paranoia-as-prelude-conspiracism-and-the-cost-of-political-rage/

      He writes: Unlike some, I will not attempt to make murderer and would-be political assassin Jared Loughner, a poster-boy for the Tea Party, and then goes on to do just that.

      It’s amusing to compare the title of this article:

      Paranoia as Prelude: Conspiracism and the Cost of Political Rage

      with the title of his November 24 article:

      Being Thankful for Clarity and Focused Rage

      So is political rage okay or not, Timmy?

      Assholes like Tim Wise are destroying the once-sane left. I am no fan of the teabaggers, but this is stupid. The shooter is probably schizophrenic, which makes the political atmosphere irrelevant. Even if people only spoke like in that one Marge-sanctioned Itchy and Scratchy cartoon where they shared lemonade on a porch, the guy’s toaster could have told him to kill someone.

      Repeating over and over, as Wise does, that white people have no right to express anger over anything ever is extremely dangerous. I don’t think he knows what he’s doing.

      • Bay Area Guy
        January 10, 2011 at 3:42 PM

        So is political rage okay or not, Timmy?

        It’s only okay coming from the cultural left. Then that rage becomes “progressive.”

        Repeating over and over, as Wise does, that white people have no right to express anger over anything ever is extremely dangerous. I don’t think he knows what he’s doing.

        I think he knows full well what he’s doing. He’s just such a culturally leftist fanatic that he cannot see through his own contradictions and absurdities.

        And Tim Wise represents why the cultural left will never reach out to any large masses of whites. In spite of Uncle Tim’s supposed expertise on white people, he has NO CLUE how to reach out to them.

        As Thad pointed out, Timmy’s more interested in maintaining his anti-racist credentials in the eyes of those who already agree with him in the first place. If he were truly interested in converting the white masses, he would alter his rhetoric and devise new strategies.

    • Andrew W Lees
      January 20, 2011 at 6:37 PM

      Good thinking Bay Area.
      There’s absolutely no need for violence of any sort.
      All you’ve got to do is stamp your little foot and say no.
      We did it here in the UK when the Government raised the petrol(gasoline) tax. Using mobile phones and the internet, the people brought the country to a standstill. Sure it all blew over, but it didn’t half shock the gov.
      It became obvious to all that the next step was going to be in the hands of the police and armed forces… and that’s the really interesting bit. Will they stand firm with the government or will they go with the people?
      Personally I hope they go with the people.
      Did you see what the people did to the loyal(to the government) Staasi in East Germany? Nasty business……very nasty.

  7. Gay State Girl
    January 10, 2011 at 1:08 PM

    Fuck that. Now the MSM tying him to American Renaissance. According to their logic, if he posted a comment there once, that means they endorse his actions.

  8. Gay State Girl
    January 10, 2011 at 3:38 PM

    Phil Weiss is an idiot. he holds his ideology sacred refuses to question anything.

    His newly aquired protegee, Brandon Davis wrote this in the Daily Princetonian
    http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2010/10/06/26459/
    Davis just repeats the same useless tripe of all the other jewish leftists. He is not introspective at all. He’s courageous, I’ll give him that and I’d award him a Pulitzer Prize if this hadn’t been said a million times before.

    But come on, thats the best a Princeton student can do. I guess Walter Kirn was right. Give ‘em what they want to hear, I tell ya.

    Sure jews cannot benefit from a constant state of violence in a country halfway around the world that calls itself “the jewish state” and claims to speak for all jews and demands that jews worldwide must protect Israel politically and financially.

    But who are Weiss and Davis to decide “What is good for jews,” and whether the American Jewish experience should be considered more valuable than the Israeli experience. Weiss believes Jews owe a tremendous amount of gratitude to the US, his beloved WASPs and that everyone must embrace other cultures’ traditions and abandon their tribal identities-of course except for that of his beloved Palestinians-he holds Palestinian identity sacred. Of course intermarriage would be mandatory in Weiss’s fantasy world, he would probably even institutionalize arranged marriages he could ensure that each group was evenly distributed and there were no group was being deprived. (A disproportionate amount of jewish-chinese marriages or Irish -Filipino marriages) No we can’t have that, gotta mix them up.

    For all of Israel’s failures, there are benefits to a “Jewish State.” A jewish state can preserve and help develop jewish culture, whatever that may be (personally I don’t like the zionist model but thats besides the point) and serve as a sense of pride for the international jewish community. Having a high concentration of religious jews in a jewish run state can help meet the cultural needs of religious jews, not that I endorse the behavior of the ultra orthodox in Israel, I am speaking strictly from a theoretical standpoint. And who is Weiss to determine the values and necessities of the American jewish community and what “the jewish experience” should mean?

    And to Phil, Norm, Noam, tell me, what have your beloved Palestinians ever done for you in return for all your tireless devotion?

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 10, 2011 at 3:54 PM

      Weiss believes Jews owe a tremendous amount of gratitude to the US, his beloved WASPs

      They do. Jews have never been more welcomed or afforded better treatment than in the U.S. I don’t think any group is as philo-Semitic or puts up with as much Jewish crap as WASPS (be they in the U.S. or UK) do.

      I don’t think any other country would be as supportive of Israel, or would be so terrified of the charges of “anti-Semitism.”

      Jews have a pretty good deal with WASPS, which is why they shouldn’t advocate….

      that everyone must embrace other cultures’ traditions and abandon their tribal identities

      Which is precisely what Jews do in Western countries. In the SHORT RUN, it will benefit them, by weakening and undermining white gentiles, thus enabling them to secure more power for themselves.

      But in the LONG RUN, they’re fucked. I’ve said this before, but if they think their precious blacks and Hispanics (whom they CLAIM to champion, and who will soon be the majority) will give two shits about holocaust guilt, Israel, or charges of “anti-Semitism,” they’ve got another thing coming.

      I don’t think the emerging non-white majority will be as tolerant of Jewish malfeasance as today’s white gentiles are.

      And to Phil, Norm, Noam, tell me, what have your beloved Palestinians ever done for you in return for all your tireless devotion?

      Nothing. Although these saintly martyrs do it out of moral indignation, the humble souls.

      (although our good friend Chomsky is actually a Jewish protector of Zionism, as Jeffrey Blankfort has pointed out)

  9. Bay Area Guy
    January 10, 2011 at 3:44 PM

    Going by the left’s “logic” on the Giffords shooting, if a black guy like Colin Ferguson were to kill large numbers of whites, and it were then found out that he attended one of Tim Wise’s lectures, then Tim Wise would be to blame!

  10. Bay Area Guy
    January 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM

    Hmm, according to Kevin MacDonald, Loughner might be Jewish, thus refuting the whole “anti-Semitism” motive.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/01/is-jared-lee-loughner-jewish/

    (of course, if he is Jewish, he could be a self-hating Jew)

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 10, 2011 at 4:12 PM

      Loughner’s curly hair (in that one picture) does suspiciously resemble a Jew fro.

      • johnUK
        January 10, 2011 at 10:38 PM

        @Bay Area Guy

        I can’t remember anything in the Talmud about attacking other Jews unless the is a new trend.

        First we had Fritz then Madoff and now this guy.

        Less hope with her martyrdom by this Jewish white guy that immigration control advocates are deemed as Nazis and 20 million more illegal Mexican immigrants are imported into the US.

        Is that a picture of Jarod Taylor the monster whose work inspired Loughner to kill as you’re avatar?

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 10, 2011 at 10:43 PM

          @ John UK

          WTF! What the hell does this have to do with the Talmud? Most Jews aren’t even religious.

          Also, my avatar is Joe Pesci, not Jared Taylor. And no, Jared Taylor did not inspire Loughner to kill. Even the SPLC and ADL don’t see Amren as “anti-Semitic,” in spite of the claim by Fox News that he was linked to Amren.

        • johnUK
          January 11, 2011 at 2:34 AM

          @Bay Area Guy

          The Talmud is the intellectual code and ethics of the Jewish people covering historical attitudes in terms of Jewish law, finance, etc.

          Whether Jews are religious or not makes no difference the Talmud like the Koran for Muslims gives an historical ethno-centric view of the psychological nature of the Jewish group.

          And I was joking about Taylor but let’s hope this incident demonizes his work and others into the effect minority groups have in the US so it will introduce a more open borders position of Mexicans into the US fleeing the US orchestrated genocide there.

    • LaFleur
      January 10, 2011 at 4:30 PM

      Once the gibberish on his YouTube account was revealed, there was no point in speculating about motive, though it hasn’t stopped people like Tim Wise and Michael Lerner, who is trying to make the shooting about anti-semitism. I don’t suppose that Mr. Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs being Jewish would make much difference to Wise or Lerner at this point.

      • Wade in MO
        January 10, 2011 at 5:17 PM

        ” though it hasn’t stopped people like Tim Wise”

        Well, this is not surprising. After all, Timmy doesn’t know what a jew is. He thinks having a jew father makes him jewish. There is probably nothing which will affect his delusional mind.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 10, 2011 at 5:27 PM

          There is probably nothing which will affect his delusional mind.

          Agreed. Though I guess having a delusional mind and receiving handsome speaking fees isn’t so bad.

          Oh, and I don’t think Tim Wise’s father is even Jewish. As I read somewhere, his father was only half Jewish, making him only 1/4 Jewish, on his FATHER’S SIDE.

          He’s either delusional or dishonest. He probably made up most of the crap about him getting bullied on account of being Jewish.

          Someone ought to tell him politely that being 1/4 Jewish on your father’s side and not practicing the religion of Judaism doesn’t make you Jewish.

  11. Gay State Girl
    January 10, 2011 at 4:23 PM

    Bay Area Guy
    Perhaps you misread me. I wasn’t implying that we don’t have a good deal in America with the WASPS. But the successful jews in America are those who conform to the cultural standards of America and are generally not religious. A Hassidic jew could not gain the acceptance of mainstream American society outside Jew York. Weiss does not seem to get this. I have nothing against WASPs but I am not about to bend down and kiss their asses as Weiss has done. If I marry into an elite WASP family it will be because I genuinely like with the person not solely for the sake of marrying into an elite WASP family as Phil has done, and I won’t allow my self worth be determined by who I marry, as Phil has done. While I can be gracious to many individual WASPs, I am not indebted to them as a race.

    BTW what do you think about the other parts of my post.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 10, 2011 at 4:43 PM

      BTW what do you think about the other parts of my post.

      I liked the other parts. I too have little tolerance for Palestinophile Jews, just as I have little tolerance for negrophile whites like Tim Wise.

      And yes, I too await the day when people like Weiss hook up with burqa-clad Palestinian women.

      And Finkelstein is a fag

      Evidence?

      and is tirelessly devoted to a race which persecutes homosexuals.

      Similar to cultural leftists who worship blacks and Hispanics. Never mind that black and Hispanic men are some of the most sexist and homophobic men around.

      • Gay State Girl
        January 10, 2011 at 6:01 PM

        I don’t have concrete evidence about Finkelstein but he ranks high on my gaydar.

        Sorry about what I said about WASPs. What I meant to say is, Weiss doesn’t feel that jews are capable of building their own self sufficient state and therefore need to live in a state built by “WASPs.” (His term not mine, I don’t distinguish between WASPs, Irish, Italians, Nordics Portuguese, French Canadians, Greeks, Slavs etc. They’re all white goyim to me :) )

        Make that a Burqa clad Palestinian Great Great Grandmother. I don’t want to lead poor Phil to believe that he’s getting anything good. :)

      • Bay Area Guy
        January 10, 2011 at 7:27 PM

        I don’t have concrete evidence about Finkelstein but he ranks high on my gaydar.

        My friend has his own fagdar. :)

        I don’t distinguish between WASPs, Irish, Italians, Nordics Portuguese, French Canadians, Greeks, Slavs etc. They’re all white goyim to me

        Lol! Spoken like an honest Jew.

        Make that a Burqa clad Palestinian Great Great Grandmother. I don’t want to lead poor Phil to believe that he’s getting anything good.

        Hehe.

  12. Gay State Girl
    January 10, 2011 at 4:26 PM

    And Finkelstein is a fag (don’t let him tell you otherwise) and is tirelessly devoted to a race which persecutes homosexuals.

  13. Gay State Girl
    January 10, 2011 at 4:40 PM

    Check out this thread
    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1318303/pg1
    My favorite line?
    “Israeli agents are infiltrating local synagogues via Stormfront”

  14. LaFleur
    January 10, 2011 at 6:27 PM

    An interesting Mother Jones interview with a guy who knew Loughner:

    http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/jared-lee-loughner-friend-voicemail-phone-message

    Their comments have been completely overrun with right-wingers.

  15. Wade in MO
    January 10, 2011 at 7:53 PM

    Score!!! White guys are now winning the mating wars. For years black men were portrayed as taking our women, but now the tide is turning. Just found this in a wikipeida article on fellatio:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki-fellatio.svg

    Score!!! GO WHITES!!!! (Sorry asian girls….)

  18. fpy3p
    January 10, 2011 at 10:45 PM

    BAG, you know that Amren censors any comments or stories relating to Jews or Israhell right? I’m not too impressed with Taylor and his cowardly organization. Occidental Observer is much better.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 10, 2011 at 11:00 PM

      I’m not too impressed with Taylor and his cowardly organization.

      With respect, I must disagree.

      Having read Hunter Wallace’s writings at Occidental Dissent, I’ve reached a more moderate and practical brand of white nationalism. I believe in white nationalism that is pragmatic, effective, and that isn’t alienated from the mainstream. In other words, I believe in being a truly effective WN, as opposed to what Saul Alinsky would call a “rhetorical radical.”

      I know that some more hardcore WN’s like to dismiss Amren as being too philo-Semitic, but Amren has done far more in attracting well educated, middle/upper middle class professionals than any other WN organization. I would much rather have people associate WN with Amren than Alex Linder.

      FPY, you know that I’m hardly ignorant with regards to the Jewish Question. That being said, if there are indeed Jews who genuinely support our cause, there’s no reason they should be excluded.

      Granted, you could argue that conservatives said the same thing in the 70s and 80s, and before they knew it, the Jewish neocons had subverted conservatism.

      Still, I’ve grown past the desire for ideological purity. Even if Amren is a bit soft on the Jewish Question, they’ve still done far more to advance the pro-white cause than any other organization. Jared Taylor is one of the movement’s most articulate and sophisticated leaders, and he’s appeared on major networks like CNN (albeit only once, as far as I can recall) and Russia Today.

      Amren recognizes that rants against Jews will hurt its cause. It’s more interested in attracting whites, and ranting about the “ZOG” won’t do that.

      You may regard this as selling out, but the harsh reality is that truth gets you nowhere in politics.

      While I’m willing to speak my mind on this blog, if I were to encounter whites in real life and try to win them over to WN, I’d use much different rhetorical tactics.

      In politics, truth is not a virtue, and the right thing is often done for the wrong reasons. Realistic activists must resign themselves to that fact.

  19. Bay Area Guy
    January 10, 2011 at 11:02 PM

    I’m actually beginning to read Rules for Radicals on Hunter Wallace’s recommendation.

    Though the book is written from a leftist perspective by radical Jewish leftist Saul Alinsky, and is meant to be a critique of and advice for far left radicals, his advice could just as easily apply to WN’s.

    I’ve gotten weary of white nationalists who spew empty rhetoric and get nowhere. I’m actually interested in working within the mainstream and actually winning.

  20. fpy3p
    January 10, 2011 at 11:09 PM

    BAG, I’ve read Jew Among you, Amren, and the rest, and they are essentially Republican Tea Party Conservatard types. They want a nation that has a numerical white majority, but you’ll still be stuck with financial crisis, wars for Israhell, and the rest. Is that future really that different from the current situatiuon, other than there being less darkies around? Jews are essentially trying to control the outcome, or as they say “ride the revolution.” In the end, you’ll get a less PC version of neoconservatism. Selling out and making deals with the devil always don’t work in the long run. Ask the Ottoman Turks how much their tolerance towards Jews got them as their empire got demolished and Palestine was sold away.

    • Wade in MO
      January 10, 2011 at 11:18 PM

      ” Ask the Ottoman Turks how much their tolerance towards Jews got them as their empire got demolished and Palestine was sold away.”

      The turks got a lot more than they should have. Compare the boundaries of the treaty of Sevres to those of the treaty of Lausanne.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 10, 2011 at 11:21 PM

      Is that future really that different from the current situatiuon, other than there being less darkies around?

      Yes, yes, and an emphatic yes.

      FPY, what’s important to remember is that revolutions are not built overnight. You cannot expect to tackle the Jewish Question in a short amount of time.

      Amren and the Tea Party, in spite of their various flaws, are pushing to end immigration, birthright citizenship, and ethnic studies in various states. Amren and these Tea Party types have also created a climate more favorable to right wing activism, and has created a climate hostile to cultural leftists.

      As much as I disagree with their economic and foreign policy views, ending immigration and pushing back the cultural left is a great place to start.

      THEN, once the WN’s at Amren have gotten their nose in the tent, they can start pushing some of their other policies within mainstream conservatism.

      Reading Hunter Wallace’s writings has changed my perspective in this regard. As he pointed out, Communists had trouble reaching out to the working class masses, and were unable to succeed using their current methods.

      Therefore, they inserted themselves into the Civil Rights Movement, Feminism, and other leftist/counterculture movements of the 60s, and were able to exercise influence in that regard.

      Similarly, WN’s will get nowhere with esoteric ramblings against “the ZOG.” They CAN, however, work within mainstream conservatism and eventually bind themselves to the conservative establishment to the point where white nationalism is eventually synonymous with successful establishment conservatism.

      If Saul Alinsky were a white nationalist today, he would join and encourage other WN’s to get involved with the local Tea Party movement, and gradually push it towards a more white nationalist direction.

      In conclusion: As much as I might disagree with or look down on mainstream conservatives and Tea Party types, the fact of the matter is that WN’s cannot win unless they work with these supposedly “useless conservatives.”

      As much as the system is rotten, we have to work within the system. Otherwise, we just alienate ourselves from the mainstream, and become useless rhetorical radicals.

      Remember: The right thing in politics is often done for the wrong reasons.

  21. fpy3p
    January 10, 2011 at 11:13 PM

    And I have a creeping feeling that Amren is economically libertarian, and Jew among you has praised Milton Friedman, that scumbag whose economic bullshit ruined scores of countries. I thought you hated libertarianism, you do realize that most Jews who seem to lean towards the “right” are libertarian, neocon types right? You won’t find traditional conservatives like Buchanan among the heebs.

    • Robert Lindsay
      January 10, 2011 at 11:15 PM

      Taylor is pretty much a Libertarian from what I can tell.

    • Wade in MO
      January 10, 2011 at 11:20 PM

      “And I have a creeping feeling that Amren is economically libertarian”

      Yes, it is. That’s one of the reasons I became “disenchanted” with it.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 10, 2011 at 11:23 PM

      FPY, I’m fully aware that many white nationalist organizations are economically libertarian.

      I don’t like it, but again, you have to work with what you’ve got.

      As Alinskyy would say, you have to work within reality as it is, not reality as you think it should be.

      Therefore, rather than flat-out rejecting these libertarian WN types, I’d push them towards embracing a more populist and inclusive brand of white nationalism, as advocated by Hunter Wallace.

  22. Bay Area Guy
    January 10, 2011 at 11:28 PM

    @ FPY

    I do indeed admire anti-neoliberal WN’s like Pat Buchanan and the late Sam Francis.

    The white nationalist movement could really use the pen of Sam Francis right now. He was the perfect white nationalist: Realistic, pragmatic, not a rhetorical radical, not inclined to esoteric ramblings, and opposed to neoliberal economics and global imperialism.

    Even people like David Duke toned their image down when seeking political office.

    I think that realism, not rhetorical radicalism, must rule the day.

  23. fpy3p
    January 10, 2011 at 11:36 PM

    I’m not referring to esoteric ramblings against the ZOG. Just start by connecting current day problems that stare everybody in the face, such as the economic clusterfuck, wars, blatant lobbying and corruption, double standards, and connect them to specific Jewish figures who are easilly identifiable. Then calmly go Kevin MacDonald on them, explaining the historical, social, genetic, and political aspects of this 2000 year bullshit that they have played. Can anything get more blatantly Jewish than AIPAC or the ADL!? If white Americans still cant notice the turd in the punch bowl, a giant turd, they don’t deserve to be educated or saved. They are the ultimate lemmings.

    • Uncle Milton
      January 11, 2011 at 2:20 PM

      I wish the man all the luck… people I have known, who sank as far as he apparently did, never really recovered.

  25. Gay State Girl
    January 11, 2011 at 1:15 PM

    I’ve never been impressed with Sarah Silverman or Jon Stewart or Sandra Bernhardt or any jewish self styled commedian who invokes their jewishness to often.

    • Wade in MO
      January 11, 2011 at 1:42 PM

      Is their any jewish comedian who doesn’t? Gilbert Gottfired maybe?

      Does Seinfeld?

      Also, jews should petition Sarah Silverman and especially Sandra Bernhardt to stop identifying themselves as jews. They’re just perpetuating the stereotype of ugly manish jewish women.

      • Uncle Milton
        January 11, 2011 at 2:27 PM

        To Wade:
        Is their any jewish comedian who doesn’t?

        Grocho Marx, Peter Sellers, Marty Feldman?

      • Gay State Girl
        January 11, 2011 at 5:57 PM

        I agree but when old school jewish comedians like Lenny Bruce and Allen Sherman invoked their jewish identity, they had a deeper knowledge of Judaism and Jewish culture and their jokes were of substance and they diversified their routine and in those days comedy was more sophisticated, comedians did not simply repeat the same tired and overused sex jokes. Sarah Silverman and Jon Stewart pretty much rely on their identity to make it in Hollywood.

        I would love to excommunicate Sarah Silverman and Sandra Bernhardt.

        • LaFleur
          January 11, 2011 at 6:06 PM

          Now here’s some old school:

        • Wade in MO
          January 11, 2011 at 7:46 PM

          ” comedians did not simply repeat the same tired and overused sex jokes”

          Yeah. It’s just annoying how so many comedians use their ethnic backround as a source for almost all of their jokes. Richard Pryor was a funny black guy, but the thousands of clones who came after him aren’t so good. The “identity” comedy shows get repetitive real fast. The “Real Kings of Comedy” and the “Blue Collar Comedy Tour” were just repititions of often mindless jokes.

          “I would love to excommunicate Sarah Silverman and Sandra Bernhardt.”

          Jews can excommunicate? I wasn’t aware that they had a centralized structure like that.

        • Gay State Girl
          January 13, 2011 at 4:10 AM

          Leon Trotsky was excommunicated.
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherem

  26. Uncle Milton
    January 11, 2011 at 2:25 PM

    To Wade:
    Sarah Silverman and especially Sandra Bernhardt to stop identifying themselves as jews. They’re just perpetuating the stereotype of ugly manish jewish women.

    Speak for yourself… I would so love to get with Sarah Silverman… hell I’d even make friends with Sandra Bernhard albeit it would be a bit more challenging than Ms. Silverman. As for Natalie Portman (aka Natalie Hershlag..) I am pissed that she didn’t wait for me.. (even though we have never met… ) *sigh*.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/27/natalie-portman-pregnant-_n_801577.html

  27. Gay State Girl
    January 11, 2011 at 6:54 PM

    When a jewish entertainer constantly incorporates his/her jewish identity in their work they are just offering an open invitation to antisemites. I want jewish entertainers to keep their jewish identity on the down low.

  29. Gay State Girl
    January 12, 2011 at 5:23 PM

    In tribute to the great Debbie Friedman

  30. Gay State Girl
    January 12, 2011 at 5:39 PM

    Beautiful and moving

  32. johnUK
    January 13, 2011 at 7:54 PM

    Colour video footage of Stalin.

  33. Gay State Girl
    January 14, 2011 at 5:43 AM

    LOL Queen Elizabeth has a twitter account. Its probably just her staff but its still hilarious.

  34. Bay Area Guy
    January 14, 2011 at 6:26 PM

    I’m sure that deep down inside, Obama is thanking the lord for Jared Loughner.

    Obama’s popularity was going down, he was alienating his white progressive, non-black/brown base with his Republican style economic and educational policies. The economy is still in a shitty condition. Etc.

    And then, along comes Jared Loughner. The horrible act of Loughner enables Obama to make an inspiring, Philadelphia (referring to his race speech) style speech that wins him acclaim and allows him to come across as a healer.

    Never mind that Loughner isn’t a far right winger by any stretch of the imagination.

    (ie. he’s anti-flag, pro-abortion, anti-Christianity, was described by friends as liberal, likes the Communist Manifesto, is probably Jewish, etc)

    Since the victim was a Democrat, the left will have a field day politicizing this shooting, and using the shooting as rhetorical ammunition against the right.

    The conservative movement previously had the momentum, but now the cultural leftists all of a sudden are once again on the offensive.

    Loughner will be for Obama and the left what Timothy McVeigh was for Bill Clinton.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 14, 2011 at 6:27 PM

      Forgive me for my temporary use of the future tense.

      What I should have said is that the left will CONTINUE to have a field day with this.

      They will never let us hear the end of it.

      • Bay Area Guy
        January 14, 2011 at 6:30 PM

        Which brings me to another point.

        If only these white kooks would just shoot themselves and let that be the end of it.

        Every time a Timothy McVeigh or James Von Brunn comes along, they create a backlash against the white conservative movement and create sympathy/ammunition for the left.

        • johnUK
          January 14, 2011 at 7:30 PM

          Funny how the media refuses to reveal that Loughner was a Jewish white supremacist that killed the Jewish lady and they there families both went to the same synagogue.

          Like how one of the Columbine killers was Jewish that they made them out to be Neo-Nazis.

          Yes lets hope the Jared Loughner incident reflects bad on Taylor and his organisation and kills the immigration debate.

          I think they should build a statue to this women built by illegal Mexican immigrants.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 14, 2011 at 7:50 PM

          Yes lets hope the Jared Loughner incident reflects bad on Taylor and his organisation and kills the immigration debate.

          Let’s not.

          Funny how the media refuses to reveal that Loughner was a Jewish white supremacist that killed the Jewish lady and they there families both went to the same synagogue.

          English please, Mr. UK.

          And no, he wasn’t a “white supremacist,” in spite of what a certain DHS official and Fox “News” have to say.

          I think they should build a statue to this women built by illegal Mexican immigrants.

          I think not.

        • johnUK
          January 14, 2011 at 8:51 PM

          “English please, Mr. UK.

          Just replace “the Jewish lady” with the name of the women who got whacked (is it Glifford?) and remove the last line meant to say this:

          ..and that both families the Loughners and the Gliffords went to the same synagogue.

          So they probably knew each other.

          And no, he wasn’t a “white supremacist,” in spite of what a certain DHS official and Fox “News” have to say.

          He’s a white Jewish individual who tried to kill Glifford an open borders advocate. It is pretty obvious the motivation.

          It is like Machete but in reverse.

          Jared Loughner is “Jew-chete”

        • Cyrus
          January 14, 2011 at 8:59 PM

          Wow! I gotta to see that movie! A Mexican killing butt-loads of redneck pale faces! It even has Steven Seagal in it!

          Someday…I hope to make a “Middle Eastern” version of it. An Afghan Taliban killing off Marine baby killers. Or maybe one about that heroic Iraqi sniper named Juba. He killed like 35 G.I Joe’s, didn’t he?

          Simply awesome!

        • johnUK
          January 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM

          @Cyrus

          Well the Bosnian Muslim terrorists who we helped train and arm did make a 60 minute video of Juda the Sniper killing US soldiers in Iraq.

          So if you want to watch that the Google video link is in the article.

          “A half-hour long film about a Muslim sniper who is killing American soldiers in Iraq is being shown in Bosnia, reports Bosnian Muslim television.
          The film is shown in central Bosnia where concentration of radical Islamists is the greatest, reports Bosnian government TV station.
          The film is about a mysterious Muslim named Juba who is using a sniper to kill an American soldier once every day. The sniper has been doing this for several years now and each soldier is hit with one bullet in the forehead, the movie shows.
          Bosnian TV news show 60 Minutes reports that the mysterious sniper has killed several hundred Americans so far. After each killing, the sniper leaves one shell and a message in Arabic that says “What’s taken by blood cannot be brought back without blood.”
          The DVD also says that Bosnian Muslim Jihad veterans from the notorious Bosnian Muslim Army unit El Mujaheed are also volunteers among the Jihadists in Iraq that are killing the Americans.

          http://serbianna.com/news/?p=1316

        • Cyrus
          January 14, 2011 at 9:39 PM

          Fuck that video make my dick hard…Too bad the Bosnian connection is complete bullshit, though. There were no shortage of competent Iraq sharp-shooters and snipers in Iraq, circa 2003. An eight year long sustained trench war tends to produce a number of folks skilled in such a trade.

          Same goes for the Iranians…

          http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/21/iranian-sniper-wookiee-star-wars

          They are actually very common in the Middle East.

          http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/June/Images/aim.jpg

        • johnUK
          January 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM

          @Cyrus

          It is not Bullshit Bosnian Muslim terrorist are recruited to fight in Iraq and Bosnia is used as a conduit for militants in Europe to be sent to Iraq.

          The Bosnian leadership had connections to the Iranian regime dating back to the Mid 80′s when Bosnian Muslims helping Iran spread its terror network into the Balkans aided by Bill Clinton who helped transfer Iranian weapons to Bosnian jihadists during the civil war of the 90’s.

          http://rpc.senate.gov/releases/1997/iran.htm

        • johnUK
          January 14, 2011 at 10:27 PM

          @Cyrus

          I thought you didn’t like the Iranian regime and its Islamic bullshit?

        • Cyrus
          January 15, 2011 at 12:25 AM

          I think you give the CIA too much credit.

        • johnUK
          January 15, 2011 at 8:13 AM

          Actually I just noticed the mistake I made the video is 30 minutes long but the report was on a Bosnian TV show called 60 minutes.

        • Cyrus
          January 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM

          Don’t sweat it. “60 Minutes” has been a U.S television news “magazine” shown, on the air for well over four decades. It is usually divided into four or five segments, varying from a few minutes to twenty or so.

          It’s akin to me watching a broadcast news show from one of your countless “BBC” channels.

        • johnUK
          January 16, 2011 at 6:39 PM

          @Cyrus

          The source was actually STRATFOR but the article was posted on Andy Wilcox’s Slobodan Milosevic website.

          Nearly all of the news articles posted on the slobodan-milosevic.org website are from non-Serb news sources like the BBC, Washington Post and even Bosnian TV.

          @Bay Area Guy

          None of the links I posted are conspiratorial.

          What is it you don’t understand?

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 16, 2011 at 6:57 PM

          None of the links I posted are conspiratorial.

          What is it you don’t understand?

          You just have a very incomprehensible way of writing and communicating.

          It’s not just me.

        • Cyrus
          January 16, 2011 at 9:24 PM

          JohnUK Wrote:

          The source was actually STRATFOR but the article was posted on Andy Wilcox’s Slobodan Milosevic website.

          Is that supposed to fucking impress me? :D

          Stratfor is an ideologically driven, “private” intelligence agency. It is also a joke, known more for it’s sweeping errors and failed predictions, than anything else. I put them in the same boat as DEBKA. It’s purpose? To spread neo-conservative and pro-Israeli viewpoints and propaganda. Not to actually make correct military analysis and predictions.

          They are there to “steer” public and private thought for specific purposes. Not to draw accurate conclusions. When it comes to Iran, they have probably the worst knowledge track record on Earth. Worse than the CIA, DIA, Mossad, etc.

          Now, go fetch me a drink, boy. Your Daddy’s gettin’ thirsty.

        • Wade in MO
          January 18, 2011 at 7:15 PM

          “It is also a joke, known more for it’s sweeping errors and failed predictions, than anything else”

          Yeah. I read the George Friedman’s (the founder of STRATFOR) book a couple years ago. It was called the Next 100 Years or something like that. Apparently India will have no effect on the next 100 years because it literally got about a sentence in a 300 page book.

      • Cyrus
        January 14, 2011 at 11:51 PM

        Oh, and one person’s “terrorist” is another person’s freedom fighter. Remember that.

        • johnUK
          January 15, 2011 at 12:21 AM

          Oh, and one person’s “terrorist” is another person’s freedom fighter. Remember that.

          Yes the terrorists are on the CIA payroll.

          Modern Islam is essentially a CIA psych-op project with the Koran being the military doctrine wrapped up in pseudo religious mumbo gumbo.

    • Cyrus
      January 14, 2011 at 11:49 PM

      I still hate the regime. I also hate redneck assholes.

      I knew about Iranian connections to the Bosnian fighters since 1995 or so. That’s not the point. The Iraqis didn’t need some Bosnian asshole teaching them marksmanship and tactics. They had an eight year war with Iran, and Soviet advisers to teach them that back in the 80′s. That’s my point.

      • johnUK
        January 15, 2011 at 12:33 AM

        @Cyrus

        So you support US forces being killed although it strengthens Irans position in the Mid East with the Sadr militia having the biggest influence?

        The hardcore fighter are not former Iraqi military personel but foreign fighter who have experience in urban warfare like Sarajevo.

        There are Bosnians there but it is the senior foreign commader that are diverting and sending fighters to Iraq that are the main problem for the US trained in US military camps and facilities run by the likes of MI6 front Sakina Security Services.

        • Cyrus
          January 15, 2011 at 12:54 PM

          I don’t like bullies of any race, religion, nationality or creed. Plain and simple as that. When they get “theirs,” I get off…

          As for Iran being “strengthened,” it was inevitable. “Persia” has always been that 800 pound gorilla to the east of the Eastern Mediterranean. Sort of like Russia’s relationship to Western Europe.

          If the U.S wanted to keep Iran “pincered” for another decade, they should never have invaded Iraq in the first place. Bankrupting themselves in the process, and ushering in an era when their global hegemony comes into question, and rapidly begins to decline.

          Alas, a rising China, a South America rapidly moving towards socialism and away from America’s backyard involvement, and a “Middle East” governed by two regional powers, Iran and Turkey, with Iran largely pulling the strings. This is all a result of delusional American stupidity, and utter incompetence.

          Hell, even the Arab World seems to be waking up, in a South American kind of way. Not surprising. The Arab World is a lot like the Spanish speaking World, as Robert has noted…Most people don’t get that.

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/14/tunisia-revolution-live-u_n_809294.html

          The hardcore fighter are not former Iraqi military personel but foreign fighter who have experience in urban warfare like Sarajevo.

          Bullshit. Major fighting in Iraq is over. At it’s height, all kinds of foreigners were operating in Iraq, from Al-Qaeda to Mossad, from Iran to the Americans themselves. Iran backed various Shia groups, for obvious reasons. Sadr was not a favorite. He is an Arab Nationalist at heart, and early on decried Iranian involvement in Iraq. If Iran sent Bosnians to help train the “Badr” brigade, for instance, I might believe it. Not likely, but possible. After all, sending Pasdaran directly in would only give the Americans an excuse to connect Iranian involvement. Something the Bush administration badly wanted, and never had an inkling to prove.

          More likely, Hezbollah “trainers” and “fighters” were sent in. I am even certain of it. A Bosnian in Iraq would stick out almost as badly as an American. Hence, why I see it as an obvious internet pipe-dream, soaked up the misinformed and clueless.

          Iran didn’t need the “Bosnians,” if this is really what happened. They would have been useful idiots. In the case of “Juba,” he was most certainly not a Bosnian. He(or them, as “he” was most likely several) was most likely a Sunni fighter, and like most Sunnis, driven by ethnic and nationalist notions more than anything else. He was shooting Americans, because Americans were in his country, shooting at him. Simple concept, just like what is going on in Afghanistan right now.

          Iraq deployed so many “sharp-shooters” in the Iran-Iraq war, that they made their own localized version of the AK-47. Sort of a lower end sniper rifle, localized for trench warfare. It was called the “Tobuk,” and American soldiers saw and endless stream of them all over the place in Iraq.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabuk_Sniper_Rifle

          That was the emphasis placed on “sniping” from that time period, and in a very unique “Arab” way. This was the weapon “Juba” was believed to have used. It is also why so many G.I’s survived getting hit my him. Their state-of-the-art body armor had no problem defeating a 7.62x39mm ball round, even from an extended barrel at a mere 150-200 yards, which was how close Juba was forced to get at times.

          What it comes down to, is the European/American notion that any and all Iraqi, Iranian, Chinese, you name it non-white innovation or achievement, not matter how small, must somehow be attributed to “white” involvement. No matter what, it must have been a European or American who actually did, or trained those that did, or somehow made it all possible. Just look at American and Russian reactions to the new Chinese J-20 prototype 5th generation stealth fighter. Both American and Russians sources are all at once blasting it as somehow “stolen,” fake, copied or inherently inferior. In many cases all in the same exact speech or article.

          Grow up all ready…Sheesh.

        • johnUK
          January 15, 2011 at 6:25 PM

          @Cyrus

          U.S. SAMs Sent by Bosnian Islamists to Iraqi Insurgents

          http://slobodan-milosevic.org/news/dfasa030505.htm

        • Cyrus
          January 15, 2011 at 7:00 PM

          slobodan-milosevic.org??? :D :D :D

          You got to be kidding me….Now, that’s not a biased site. No way!

          Where do you find this shit, John? Seriously!

          Funny how the article refers to Bosnian delivery of “SAMS”(the technical term for this type is MANPAD), yet does not mention how the damn things were acquired by the Bosnians in the first place? For the record, the U.S takes serious fucking inventory of that particular system, as they are very expensive and extremely dangerous in the wrong hands. Just look at how those early model stingers decimated Soviet low-flying aircraft back in the 80′s.

          Which of course raises the point. Why were they the were NEVER ACTUALLY USED in Iraq? Were are all those obvious U.S losses to this type? A “disco ball” on top of an AH-1 just ain’t gonna hack it against a late model stinger! The only MANPADS used in the insurgency were rusty old Iraqi SA-7′s of Soviet origin, and only a handful at that.

          More fucking importantly, why would the Iranians need to “acquire” them from the dumb-ass Bosnians? They had a small number bought from the Afghans back in the 80′s, which along with the Pakistanis, sold to China. The Chinese copied the design. In turn, the Chinese aided both the Iranians and Pakistanis in “learning” how to develop their own production lines. Now days, China, Iran AND Pakistan all make their own variants.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misagh-2

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anza_%28missile%29

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QW-2

          Not to mention the fact that Iran has freaking stockpiles of old SA-7′s, more modern SA-14′s and I believe SA-18′s. In many cases, these Soviet built types are simply not traceable to Iran.

          Now, explain to me WHY THE FUCK THE IRANIANS WOULD NEED THE IMAGINARY BOSNIANS TO FETCH THE A HANDFUL OF FANTASY AMERICAN MADE MISSILES? Only then to hand them over to a bunch of shit-for-brains Iraqi insurgents, who are more likely to get cut in half by an American armored fighting vehicle auto-cannon, than ever effectively use the damn things in combat?

          John, you are naive. More importantly, you think you know “so much,” when you knew less than nothing. You have just enough knowledge to be a fool, and like most fools, you lack the ability to listen. More importantly, I’m sick of being these sites “military pundit.” It is a left-leaning political blog covering largely American problems, and that is why I am here. Nothing else.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 15, 2011 at 7:10 PM

          I seriously have trouble comprehending anything John UK says. He writes in a very incoherent fashion and links to all these bizarre military conspiracy web sites.

          Seriously Mr. UK, learn to make better use of the English language!

        • Cyrus
          January 15, 2011 at 7:36 PM

          Yah, fuck him.

          I the teacher use facts, and he the student rambles on incoherently, repeating the same thing over and over again.

          Kind of reminds me of the Loughner guy in Arizona…

  35. Bay Area Guy
    January 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM

    Good article from Counterpunch. As much as I may disagree with some of their radical views, their commitment to free speech is admirable.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/manjarrez01142011.html

    Fuck Michael Lerner. Even though he’s a supposedly “progressive” Jew, he’s a Zionist, “anti-Semitism” chasing turd.

    I’m glad that unlike others on the left, at least some Counterpunch writers are not rhetorically using the Giffords shooting to push a punitive agenda.

    • Gay State Girl
      January 15, 2011 at 6:17 AM

      This time Phil is spot on.
      http://mondoweiss.net/2011/01/palin-doesnt-threaten-pogroms.html

      Too bad his jewishness is an integral part of his identity and therefore his work. Just like Sarah Silverman, John Stewart et al. They can’t distance themselves from their jewish identity in the workplace. Even when Weiss was writing for the Observer, he wrote too many jewish themed pieces. He keeps this blog because he knows people are sick of hearing about how great jews are. He adheres to the “I don’t care what you say about me just say my name” mentality. Now he’s reading every jewish newspaper in the US, Canada, England and Australia. Odd activity for someone who calls himself “an assimilating jew” and an example to other jews.

  36. johnUK
    January 14, 2011 at 7:43 PM

    GOOD NEWS!!

    Among the student body at Frayser High School in Memphis, some 90 girls are pregnant or have already had a baby this school year. That statistic has school officials scrambling to prevent unwanted pregnancies. (Jan. 14

    And the best part is it appears to be a black highschool.

  37. johnUK
    January 14, 2011 at 8:18 PM

    Is Big Evil developing internet ID for the US (then the world)?

    Are we heading into a Technocratic society as Brezezinski termed in Between Two Ages during the 70′s?

    http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/internetid/?akid=93.300430.ZVxG2l&rd=1&t=1

  39. Matt
    January 16, 2011 at 4:10 PM

    It may just be propaganda, but I heard or read that much of the bellyaching now common in the NBA and some other American sporting venues actually came from Eastern Europeans who started to play on U.S. teams in the early 90s. According to this, it was part of the soccer/football tradition where players would act hurt to get players on the other team penalized. There was one particular guy (from Serbia I believe) who perfected the ploy, but I forget his name. If I’m wrong on any of this, I’m open to correction.

    To date, blacks have failed to set the MMA world on fire, and that would probably be the top sport for physical toughness, etc.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 16, 2011 at 4:15 PM

      I think the problem is that NBA refs, starting in the post Michael Jordan era, began to pamper superstars to the point where they scream bloody murder every time you breathe on them.

      In the 90s and earlier, they permitted much more contact/physical. Now, you can’t even cause wind to breeze against the opponent you’re guarding.

      Besides, the players who complain the most/scream foul the most/get the most technicals are black, not those Eastern Europeans.

    • Wade in MO
      January 16, 2011 at 4:22 PM

      “To date, blacks have failed to set the MMA world on fire, and that would probably be the top sport for physical toughness, etc.”

      They don’t dominate MMA like they do boxing, but they do have a presence. Especially if you extend the scope to other countries. For example, Anderson Silva is arguably the best pound for pound fighter in the world. Also, Rashad Evans have been the light heavyweight champ before and will be fighting Shogun for it again in a few months.

      “There was one particular guy (from Serbia I believe) who perfected the ploy”

      Vlade Divac?

      Also, it doesn’t take much for me to believe that many eastern euros have been quite thuggish. The Balkans are notorius for such behavior where their diasporas have gone. I talked to a neighbor who played amatuer soccer in a league with some serbs a few decades ago. He claims that they are animals and they tried to brawl with them in the parking lot bacause they lost the game. Also, Russians are sometimes refered to as “the niggers of Europe”.

  40. Matt
    January 17, 2011 at 7:44 AM

    @BAG: “Besides, the players who complain the most/scream foul the most/get the most technicals are black, not those Eastern Europeans.”

    LOL. That’s like saying most traffic violations in Moscow are committed by Russians. But point taken.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 17, 2011 at 11:10 AM

      True, true.

      I should have added that blacks also receive more technical fouls PROPORTIONALLY.

      But yes, point taken.

  41. Wade in MO
    January 17, 2011 at 11:52 PM

    LOL!!!!

  42. Gay State Girl
    January 18, 2011 at 9:20 AM

    Joe Lieberman should be added to that list of endangered politicians. Connecticut Secretary of State is vying for the Democratic nomination.

  43. Bay Area Guy
    January 18, 2011 at 10:45 AM

    Asians aren’t exactly thrilled with NAM (particularly black) immigration either. Well, at least the Thais aren’t.

    http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/215145/busted-or-bullied/page-3/

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 18, 2011 at 10:48 AM

      Notice you don’t get the same kind of sentimental Western liberalism in that article.

      No cries of “oh, they’re just a few bad apples, the rest of the community is good.” No “they’re human beings like us,” no “this is everyone’s country.” Etc.

      Suicidal sentimental liberalism is solely a Western phenomenon.

      • Bay Area Guy
        January 18, 2011 at 11:01 AM

        Though sadly, it seems that many of the English language commenters over there have also been infected with sentimental liberalism.

        Tsk tsk tsk.

    • Gay State Girl
      January 18, 2011 at 12:01 PM

      In turn, the Poles aren’t too thrilled about Thai immigration…

  44. Gay State Girl
    January 18, 2011 at 1:56 PM

    Gay Area Guy

    More from the great Uncle Moishy

  46. Bay Area Guy
    January 19, 2011 at 12:31 AM

    Wow, am I reading this right?

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/138405-civil-rights-leader-democratic-party-losing-too-many-white-voters

    Lewis, who was a civil rights activist before being elected to Congress in 1986, said he’s concerned the party is losing its diversity, which will make it difficult to reclaim the lost seats.
    “We’ve got to go all out and get white voters, especially white men, to come back to the Democratic Party,” he told The Ballot Box. “I just think it’s important for the Democratic Party to roll out and try to reveal itself and not become a party that is split along racial lines.”

    Wow, did he really just say that?

    Am I actually reading a black Democrat saying that whites are diverse and that it’s necessary for the Democratic leadership to acknowledge their concerns?

    Well by gosh, BAG! Look at how wrong you are about the whole notion of “diversity.” You’re just a deluded racist!

    Nah, I don’t think that John Lewis really considers whites diverse. To more accurately translate what he’s saying: “We need to win over white voters or we’re going to get our asses handed to us in 2012, which will result in more anti-egalitarian white conservatives taking power.”

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 19, 2011 at 12:33 AM

      Who knows? Maybe I am wrong. Maybe some blacks actually do consider whites to be an important part of diversity.

      Though I highly doubt it. This is more of a political ploy than anything else on the part of Lewis.

    • LaFleur
      January 20, 2011 at 8:52 AM

      The Democratic Party combines all the imperialist, globalist bullshit of the Republican Party with a veneer of identity issues meant to snow those groups into believing the Dems give a shit about them. Neither party is in my interests as a working class person. Neither is what remains of the American left, which has been thoroughly discussed here.

      The exodus of white people is just the beginning. The center of the Democratic Party cannot hold. All they have is a weak alliance of interest groups who don’t like each other much and don’t have much in common culturally, hoping for some crumbs to be tossed their way. When one group, probably the Hispanics, gets enough mass to go their own way, the big tent will collapse. This is why party shills like Rachel Maddow make me laugh. If she thinks the HRC is going to have much pull in a black-brown party, she’s got another thing coming.

      Incidentally, I posted something to this effect on Amren recently. It wasn’t approved. I take it Taylor doesn’t like comments that state the fact that the two major parties are essentially the same. The Republican Party is anti-white too, because it is anti-working class, and most white Americans are working class.

      Though I’m not a WN, Amren is a useful compendium of MSM articles on things like illegal immigration, CRT shenanigans, pandering to Islam, etc. It must be stated, though, that the GOP has no more interest in limiting outsourcing, insourcing, or mass immigration than the Dems. These are far more damaging to working class white people than silly posturing by the identity-obsessed. People who think otherwise, including apparently a majority of Amren readers, are idiots.

      • Robert Lindsay
        January 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM

        I agree with everything you wrote here, and about Amren. Taylor himself does not moderate the comments on that site though.

        Of course the Republican Party is bad for working class Whites. And the idiots on Amren who think the Republican Party is for them are just that. Amren is ferociously pro-Republican Party and anti-Democratic Party. They also love the Tea Party. Taylor is just a typical rich White corporate Republican.

        The articles are interesting to read because they give you another side to the BS of the general media on race. But the commenters are so ugly and horrible that I can hardly even read that stuff. One warning, if you post there and get approved, and you’re not a hard rightwing racist, the other commenters are going to jump all over you. They did that to me all the time. I still post there, but only once in a while.

        WN is crap. Serious crap. But so is the Republican Party, in spades, and frankly, so is the Democratic Party, which is just the Republican Party plus Identity Politics.

        • LaFleur
          January 20, 2011 at 5:06 PM

          One warning, if you post there and get approved, and you’re not a hard rightwing racist, the other commenters are going to jump all over you.

          I don’t think I’ll bother posting there again. The commenters are pretty low grade. The WNs there, like many I’ve encountered elesewhere, make a good argument against WN just by being themselves. The real WN entertainment, though, is provided by the bickering at Occidental Observer. Watching them argue over whether to try and rehabilitate the Third Reich and accusing each other of being Jews and crypto-Jews is endlessly amusing. They’d make a good reality show.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 20, 2011 at 5:12 PM

          While I still subscribe to many WN beliefs regarding diversity, immigration, multiculturalism, Israel, etc, I don’t identify with the WN movement.

          I believe there are better ways for my views to be advanced.

          Hunter Wallace of Occidental Dissent has become my favorite WN because he’s actually practical/pragmatic, and eschews inflammatory rhetoric in favor of practical strategy.

          I’m a bit like him in the sense that while I’m still more WN than anything else, I no longer believe in the white nationalist movement per se.

          I’ve come to recognize the counterproductive ways of WN zealots, and how they hurt the overall cause. And unlike extreme WN’s, I now believe that it’s actually possible to work within the mainstream.

          (by the way, the flame war between Hunter Wallace and lunatic Greg Johnson is pretty entertaining. I must say that Wallace owned Johnson in that one!)

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 20, 2011 at 5:16 PM

          Hunter Wallace has a good message for the loony WN’s.

          http://www.occidentaldissent.com/daily-vanguard/

        • Gay State Girl
          January 20, 2011 at 6:19 PM

          Bay Area Guy
          Alex Linder is onto something with his point about Christianity. Why should WNs practice a Near Eastern religion?

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 20, 2011 at 8:13 PM

          Alex Linder is onto something with his point about Christianity. Why should WNs practice a Near Eastern religion?

          It doesn’t matter whether or not he speaks the truth. The point is that it’s idiotic for white nationalists to publicly disparage Christianity.

          Radical white nationalists bash Christianity and dismiss conservatives as “useless.”

          Newsflash to them: A large majority of white Americans are either conservative or Christian. How in the hell do white nationalists expect to win when they vilify most of the people they claim to champion?

        • Gay State Girl
          January 20, 2011 at 9:14 PM

          Gay Area Guy
          I’m not defending Alex Linder. He wants me dead.

  47. Gay State Girl
    January 19, 2011 at 5:06 PM

    Lieberman announces his retirement. He knows he can’t win. I doubt CT will go to the GOP though.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rapidly-changing-senate-landscape-favors-gop-2012-analysts/story?id=12641737

  48. Bay Area Guy
    January 19, 2011 at 8:11 PM

    Wow, just wow!

    http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2011/01/19/robert-bentley-does-the-white-wimp-shuffle/

    “The white wimp shuffle.” That’s a good one. I ought to use it from now on.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 19, 2011 at 8:12 PM

      Yet another good reason why whites, particularly white conservatives, should NEVER pander to blacks.

  49. fpy3p
    January 19, 2011 at 11:49 PM

    People check out Michael Collins Piper’s interview with Voice of Reason. This guy is a fucking genius. “Zionism is simply the political arm of Judaism.”

  50. Bay Area Guy
    January 20, 2011 at 4:58 PM

    Another day, another ADL condemnation of someone who makes rhetorical use of Nazi Germany.

    http://www.adl.org/PresRele/HolNa_52/5964_52.htm

    Even fellow members of the tribe can’t get away with Nazi comparisons!

    • Gay State Girl
      January 20, 2011 at 5:12 PM

      I am sick of the Nazi Germany comparisons. Its just a continuation of the constant exploitation and universalization of the holocaust and frankly is only a go ahead for Holocaust deniers.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 20, 2011 at 5:15 PM

      Granted, I’m certainly no fan of people like Cohen who make rhetorical comparisons to Nazi Germany, but it takes a lot of Chutzpah for the ADL to condemn him, considering they frequently tar people like Pat Buchanan as neo-nazis/pseudo-nazis. The ADL is hardly a stranger to rhetorical use of Nazi Germany and the holocaust.

      But yes, I agree with you, GSG. Unlike 5 years ago, I no longer shed any tears for the victims of the Nazi holocaust (at least not the Jewish ones). After hearing about it over and over and over again, you get sick hearing about how much the Jews suffered, and eventually decide to no longer care.

      • Gay State Girl
        January 20, 2011 at 5:26 PM

        I don’t like the constant invokation of the Holocaust and the Holocaustization of jewish culture because it turned Jewish History into a collective experience rather than a personal one and Jews into one collective group rather than individuals. There should be no typical Jewish experience or typical Jewish opinion.

        • Dave Coe
          January 20, 2011 at 5:32 PM

          exactly. Jews are also seemed to be taught that its anti-semitism to talk about Jews as a collective entity yet they do it all the time with other groups such as Arabs and Germans. Even if you critisize organize Jewry they label you an anti-semite but its ok to critisize foreign nations and its people as a collective entitity when we are at war with them. not saying its right just pointing out the double standard.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 20, 2011 at 5:38 PM

          Agree.

          I just think it’s hypocritical the way Jews assign collective guilt to Germans and other Westerners for the holocaust, but to even hint at the Israel lobby or other Jewish groups complicit in the oppression of Palestinians, let alone assigning collective guilt to all Jews, is ipso facto anti-Semitic.

        • Gay State Girl
          January 20, 2011 at 5:47 PM

          I agree with that, but what I was referring to was that I believe the “pogrom and persecution” narrative and Zionism or the American Jewish collective embrace of 20th century liberalism does in an injustice to Jews as individuals, with their own experiences and their own beliefs. In addition to claiming all Eastern European were rabid jew haters, Jewish historians would lead you to believe that all the jews in the Russian Empire were poor, uneducated peasants and were isolated from their non jewish neighbors. This is not true as my own family from Kiev had a high status and did business with the Russian noblemen and were quite integrated into Russian and Ukranian society. They spoke Russian at home rather than Yiddish and gave their children Russian names. My Great Grandfather was a champion wrestler in Russia (I believe my Great Aunt still has his medals,) something you would never expect of a typical “nice jewish boy.” But Jewish historians would prefer to overlook anything that contradicts the typical jewish experience of Eastern Europe. I am just trying to save jewish history from the “revisionists.”

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 20, 2011 at 5:50 PM

          My Great Grandfather was a champion wrestler in Russia (I believe my Great Aunt still has his medals,) something you would never expect of a typical “nice jewish boy.”

          Wow, that’s pretty awesome!

          That certainly defies various Jewish stereotypes. People don’t exactly associate Jews with physical pursuits.

        • Gay State Girl
          January 20, 2011 at 6:03 PM

          Exactly because the jewish historians (and political scientists, anthropologists, sociologists and whatever new invented liberal arts field they’ve come up with) have created their own Jewish stereotypes.

    • LaFleur
      January 20, 2011 at 5:29 PM

      I think the liberals are really screwing up right now with throwing “Nazi” and “racist” at everyone who disagrees with them. After a while it’s like the boy who cried wolf. I’d say over the past few years, those words, which usually make most people recoil like a vampire presented with a crucifix, are starting to lose their effect.

      • Bay Area Guy
        January 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM

        I’d say over the past few years, those words, which usually make most people recoil like a vampire presented with a crucifix, are starting to lose their effect.

        Agreed.

        Very few white Americans take Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, the ADL, or the NY Times editorial page very seriously anymore.

      • Bay Area Guy
        January 20, 2011 at 5:35 PM

        I also think that the $PLC screwed up by attacking traditionalist groups (as in pro-traditional marriage, anti-gay marriage) as “hate groups.”

        While the white masses aren’t exactly fans of neo-nazism or klan rallies, they’ll look at the SPLC and similar organizations askance when they attack proponents of traditional marriage values as “hate groups.”

        Not to mention Tim Wise’s temper tantrum over at Daily Kos following the midterm elections.

        The left had better hope that their uneasy coalition of SWPL’s, Jews, blacks, Hispanics, and gays holds together, because they’ve lost almost all legitimacy in the eyes of the white masses.

        • LaFleur
          January 20, 2011 at 7:12 PM

          The SPLC and its proteges like Timmeh are good examples of the Shirky Principle: “Institutions will try to preserve the problem to which they are the solution.” The utility bills at the poverty palace don’t pay themselves.

          I’m generally in favor of gay rights, and am no fan of the Family Research Council. However, I’m not sure about what Dan Savage is saying here:

          http://mediamatters.org/blog/201011230066

          … really, we need a cultural reckoning around gay and lesbian issues. There was once two sides to the race debate. There was once a side, you could go on television and argue for segregation, you could argue against interracial marriage, against the Civil Rights Act, against extending voting rights to African Americans and that used to be treated as one side, you know, one legitimate side of a pressing national debate and it isn’t anymore. And we really need to reach that point with gay and lesbian issues. There are no ‘two sides’ to the issues about gay and lesbian rights.

          Here he says that people who disapprove of gay marriage are partially responsible for violence against gays:

          http://www.doubledutchpolitics.com/2010/10/dan-savage-pulls-no-punches-gay-kids-are-dying-fuck-your-feelings/

          And—sorry—but you are partly responsible for the bullying and physical violence being visited on vulnerable LGBT children. The kids of people who see gay people as sinful or damaged or disordered and unworthy of full civil equality—even if those people strive to express their bigotry in the politest possible way (at least when they happen to be addressing a gay person)—learn to see gay people as sinful, damaged, disordered, and unworthy. And while there may not be any gay adults or couples where you live, or at your church, or in your workplace, I promise you that there are gay and lesbian children in your schools. And while you can only attack gays and lesbians at the ballot box, nice and impersonally, your children have the option of attacking actual gays and lesbians, in person, in real time.

          Uh, so an opinion is a hate crime? If a parent votes against gay marriage or just doesn’t approve of it, his child is likely to go beat some gay kid’s ass?

          And many of your children—having listened to Mom and Dad talk about how gay marriage is a threat to family and how gay sex makes their magic sky friend Jesus cry—feel justified in physically abusing the LGBT children they encounter in their schools. You don’t have to explicitly “encourage [your] children to mock, hurt, or intimidate” queer kids. Your encouragement—along with your hatred and fear—is implicit. It’s here, it’s clear, and we’re seeing the fruits of it: dead children.

          Gays are what, 3% of the population? Does Savage really think he can take on US Christians?

          It’s interesting that Savage insists on comparing the gay rights movement to the civil rights movement, considering black people are more opposed to gay marriage than any other ethnic group.

          Yet another reason why the US left is hopelessly fucked up. Attempting to deal with all these cultural issues BEFORE addressing basic economic issues is ass-backwards.

        • LaFleur
          January 20, 2011 at 7:28 PM

          The left had better hope that their uneasy coalition of SWPL’s, Jews, blacks, Hispanics, and gays holds together, because they’ve lost almost all legitimacy in the eyes of the white masses.

          It occurs to me that the lack of cultural commonality between these groups is part of what’s motivating the rather hysterical accusations from liberals. They can’t really appeal to a natural binder like religion or ethnicity. Fear is the next most common way to keep the rabble in line.

          The Christians and cultural conservatives on the right squabble a lot amongst themselves, but they’ve got more in common with each other than any random group of people in the Democratic Party these days. That’s gotta worry the Dems, but they have no one but themselves to blame, having sold out the working class base decades ago.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 20, 2011 at 8:16 PM

          It’s interesting that Savage insists on comparing the gay rights movement to the civil rights movement, considering black people are more opposed to gay marriage than any other ethnic group.

          And most blacks don’t exactly appreciate the way gays are trying to piggyback on the civil rights movement, which is why most blacks voted for Prop. 8.

          (which, of course, Timmy would blame on racially blind white gays. Even Ank Mie of all people would argue that blacks who don’t support gay rights are hypocrites)

        • LaFleur
          January 20, 2011 at 8:42 PM

          which, of course, Timmy would blame on racially blind white gays.

          He did just that, of course:

          http://www.timwise.org/2010/08/with-friends-like-these-who-needs-glenn-beck-racism-and-white-privilege-on-the-liberal-left/

          Given the almost non-existent outreach to the black community by the “No H8″ campaign — and the way in which the campaign relied on white celebrities and entertainers to make the public case for them — it is hardly surprising that African Americans may have come to see the LGBT struggle in California as a white one, divorced from their day-to-day concerns. But that is not the fault of people of color. Rather, the responsibility for this unhappy outcome rests almost entirely with the white-dominated LGBT movement, whose principal organizations (like the Human Rights Campaign) have only nominal people of color involvement at the top levels of policy and decision making.

          Right. Because there aren’t many black people in leadership positions in the HRC, black people have no way of knowing that homosex isn’t just a white thing. Our choir director is just a good dancer and is uh, good with colors. Ha ha ha ha.

          Black people can’t be expected to vote for progressive social issues outside of their own unless individually courted and taken by the hand. White people, on the other hand, according to Wise’s “tic toc” rant, know the difference between right and wrong, and are fully responsible for being on the wrong side of an issue.

          He treats black people like retarded children. Amazing.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 20, 2011 at 9:02 PM

          Black people can’t be expected to vote for progressive social issues outside of their own unless individually courted and taken by the hand. White people, on the other hand, according to Wise’s “tic toc” rant, know the difference between right and wrong, and are fully responsible for being on the wrong side of an issue.

          He treats black people like retarded children. Amazing.

          It is amazing. Even Ank Mie, who’s as radical of an anti-racist as they come, doesn’t buy that line of reasoning, and has in fact pointed out (at least in her comments policy) that blacks who don’t support gay rights are hypocrites who shouldn’t expect others to support their struggle.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 20, 2011 at 9:09 PM

          Let me use Timmy’s logic, and shift a few of the variables around, and then see how people like him would react to it.

          “Given the poor outreach to the white community during the ‘no on prop. 209′ campaign, in which the campaign relied on non-white civil rights activists to make the public case for affirmative action, it is hardly surprising that whites came to see the struggle for affirmative action as a black one, divorced from their day-to-day concerns. But that is not the fault of white people. Rather, the blame for this unhappy outcome rests on the shoulders of the non-white dominated anti-racist movement, which does not take white people’s every day concerns into account.”

          Basically, according to Timmy, white people are expected to go out of their way to support black people, even if it goes against their interests, and are essentially expected to be on the “right” side of an issue.

          Black people, on the other hand (and as you’ve pointed out), are not responsible for supporting progressive causes outside of race, and it’s the fault of white progressives for not reaching out to them.

          What a doofus!

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 20, 2011 at 10:48 PM

          Tim Wise basically sees blacks as noble savages.

          Oh sure, they’re so much more morally superior than whites, are more soulful, are more truthful, etc.

          But at the same time, in his mind, they’re like children who can never be held accountable for their actions.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 20, 2011 at 11:43 PM

          Black people can’t be expected to vote for progressive social issues outside of their own unless individually courted and taken by the hand. White people, on the other hand, according to Wise’s “tic toc” rant, know the difference between right and wrong, and are fully responsible for being on the wrong side of an issue.

          What’s truly fascinating is that despite all his chest thumping about how immoral/morally blind and despicable white people are, and how enlightened and soulful black people are, it seems that Timmy expects greater morality and moral decision making from white people than blacks.

          As Thad also pointed out regarding Abagond, in spite of all the afrocentric chest thumping, black commenters frequently attributed feelings of guilt and resentment to whites. In other words, in spite of the fact that they pathologize whites, they seem to expect more humanity out of whites than they do blacks. After all, to be a human being is to embody a wide variety of emotions, including guilt, evil, etc.

          I don’t get angry with CRT’s anymore. Now, I just find them amusing.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 20, 2011 at 11:48 PM

          It occurs to me that the lack of cultural commonality between these groups is part of what’s motivating the rather hysterical accusations from liberals. They can’t really appeal to a natural binder like religion or ethnicity.

          That’s exactly the problem.

          When all these groups have in common is a disdain for straight WASP men and a desire for more government goodies, there’s not going to be much to hold them together should the wicked white man ever go away.

          That’s why they need to keep inflaming the culture/identity wars, for without a common white devil enemy, their coalition is finished.

      • Robert Lindsay
        January 20, 2011 at 8:20 PM

        Liberals call me that all the time. Almost all liberal sites refuse to link to me or even ban links to me. If they do link me, they get a ton of commenters complaining about “linking to the racist.”

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 20, 2011 at 8:28 PM

          If they do link me, they get a ton of commenters complaining about “linking to the racist.”

          Oh, yes, I remember Abagond a while back listed your website among Stormfront, Amren, Niggermania, and Chimpout as a racist site.

          When you took offense to being compared to those sites, he said something along the lines of, “oh I just meant that his site was worse than mine, he just overreacted.”

          (not that I read Abagond anymore, I was just reminded of that)

  51. Robert Lindsay
    January 20, 2011 at 8:22 PM

    While I still subscribe to many WN beliefs regarding diversity, immigration, multiculturalism, Israel, etc, I don’t identify with the WN movement.

    Jared Taylor himself says he is not a WN, because he does not know what that means. His latest book (unpublished) which I am looking over, does not discuss WN among the solutions he advocates. Maybe you ought to get on board with Jared? WN is ridiculous; it’s such a loser position.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 20, 2011 at 8:26 PM

      Maybe you ought to get on board with Jared? WN is ridiculous; it’s such a loser position.

      I’ve increasingly been moving in that direction. While I still fundamentally agree with WN’s on issues such as immigration, diversity, etc, I recognize that much of the WN “movement” (if you can call it that) consists of a bunch of online zealots spouting empty rhetoric.

      I believe that it actually is possible to work within mainstream white society. Average white Americans (primarily conservatives, moderates, and independents) fundamentally agree with me on issues such as immigration, multicultural double standards, etc.

      I’d rather try my luck with them than watch a bunch of loons over at certain WN blogs accuse each other of being secret Jews.

      • ski
        January 24, 2011 at 10:54 AM

        You’re crazy man.

        You seem to have given up on the dream for a White Imperium, Reich or Respubliques-aryens. What good is it for a man to gain the world but loose his soul. By your words you reveal yourself to probably be a jew. But if not a jew, you do but reveal yourself as a jewish-souled X-tianized commoner, one of hoi polloi, a plebe, routurier, or hominum non re, sed nomine, thus abdicating your birthright as a member of the volk (and thus capable neither of attaining a proper Weltaunshauung, nor licking Herr Hitler’s boots), this glorious warrior-aristocracy that will soon come to form a new gens hominorum, i.e. nation of übermenshenchen, in the soon to be Eurosiberian Artic Septentrion. The upshot is that we Aryan elites (élite) will have one less person to suspect of being a disloyal crypto-jew, as in your case ’tis confirmed. We are already up to our necks in practical matters like purging our souls of Judeo-Christian brainwashing and sifting through commenters on various sites to determine the precise degree of true Aryanness in their soul in preparation for the coming collapse of ZOG.

  52. Bay Area Guy
    January 20, 2011 at 8:23 PM

    having listened to Mom and Dad talk about how gay marriage is a threat to family and how gay sex makes their magic sky friend Jesus cry

    How cute, mock Christianity. Yeah, Danny boy, that’s really going to get the Christian masses (be they white, black, or brown) to get on board with your gay agenda!

    Such a clever strategy. Mock the culture and beliefs of those you hope to convince.

    People like Dan Savage, Tim Wise and other radical CRT’s, radical WN’s like Alex Linder and others all need to learn that you can’t piss on your audience and treat them like culturally backward/ignorant lemmings, and then expect them to give a shit about you.

    They all REALLY need to read Rules for Radicals.

  53. Gay State Girl
    January 21, 2011 at 2:28 PM

    Lindsay and Gay Area Guy
    Tablet claims that Kevin McDonald wants to impose quotas on Jews in influential positions and impose special taxes on those who do. Is there any truth to this? It would be more counterproductive than anything else. It would only radicalize a younger generation of assimilated jews.

    • Robert Lindsay
      January 21, 2011 at 4:47 PM

      I do not think so. He discussed that as a “thought experiment” in one of his books.

      • Gay State Girl
        January 21, 2011 at 5:56 PM

        Could you locate the quote?

      • Bay Area Guy
        January 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM

        It would only radicalize a younger generation of assimilated jews.

        If anything, the tax should be applied to banks like Goldman-Sachs and other Jewish controlled banks, without any reference to their Jewishness.

        That would put Jewry in a delightfully clever conundrum. Either they accept the taxes specially levied to Jewish banks, or they react by screaming anti-Semitism, thus admitting that these banks are in fact Jewish owned.

        It would certainly be an interesting thought experiment.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 21, 2011 at 6:49 PM

          Which reminds me.

          Jack Ryan over at Occidental Dissent initially brought this up.

          Instead of parading around with shaved heads and swastikas, extreme white nationalists should instead use cosmetics and costumes to disguise themselves as radical American Muslims.

          They should scream about how the Zionist controlled media and government oppresses Muslims and other “people of color” throughout the world.

          This would present the Jewish left with yet another delightfully fun conundrum.

          Either they vilify Muslim activists, thus criticizing an increasingly (though still not quite) protected class, or they tacitly admit to the notion of Jewish power.

          Of course, if these WN’s are unable to pull off their Muslim disguises, they can always just pose as radical anarchists and do the exact same thing.

          Yet another interesting thought experiment.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 21, 2011 at 6:56 PM

          As Saul Alinsky would say, it’s always better to personalize and polarize certain targets than it is to attack abstract concepts. Therefore, radical WN’s are idiots when they go on and on about “the Jews,” “the ZOG,” or “Jewish bankers.”

          In contrast, I would actually name the Jew. Without mentioning their Jewishness, I would bring up Alan Greenspan, Ben Shalom Bernanke, Lloyd Blankfein, etc, etc.

          This will have one of two effects.

          It will either cause implicit whites to connect the dots, or if they accuse me of anti-Semitism, I can then retort by saying, “I didn’t bring up their Jewishness, you did. Obviously, you’re tacitly admitting that most of these bankers and Wall Street types are Jews.”

          Oh, man! So many thought experiments to think of.

        • Gay State Girl
          January 21, 2011 at 7:10 PM

          Gay Area Guy
          I would have no problem with that but that’s not the direction McDonald is going in. He wants to limit the number of Jewish students at prestigious Universities and entering influential professions, thus punishing a younger generation that had nothing to do with Iraq, AIPAC, ADL, insane PC, mortgage crisis etc and inevitably radicalizing them and creating an ethnic war. Of course that might not be such a bad thing. I think if the Ivies had extended quotas on Jewish students…Brandeis, YU, AJU, and Touro would be more prestigious than Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Columbia etc

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 21, 2011 at 7:16 PM

          thus punishing a younger generation that had nothing to do with Iraq, AIPAC, ADL, insane PC

          Agreed. I don’t agree with MacDonald’s taxes/quota system.

          Like I said, I think my thought experiment where almost exclusively or predominantly Jewish banks/financial organizations (like Goldman Sachs and the Federal Reserve) are exclusively tasked would be most interesting.

          I don’t believe in punishing your average Jewish kid. The Jewish kid I know and occasionally hang out with doesn’t deserve punishment.

          The Jews I don’t like are people like Abe Foxman, Alan Dershowitz, Paul Wolfowitz and every other Jewish neocon, Noel Ignatiev, Ben Shalom Bernanke and other Jewish financial giants/bankers, etc.

          I don’t think there should be institutionalized ethnic discrimination against young Jews, thus radicalizing them.

          I only wish organized Jewry would stop supporting mass immigration/multiculturalism, thus supporting anti-white ethnic warfare here at home.

        • Gay State Girl
          January 21, 2011 at 7:21 PM

          I don’t know what he vis referring to with taxes. Can you explain?

          Who does he expect to win over with this kind of rhetoric?

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 21, 2011 at 7:26 PM

          Who does he expect to win over with this kind of rhetoric?

          Just other fellow zealots.

          White nationalists really need to read Occidental Dissent. It’s one of the few WN publications that’s actually practical, and not interested in spewing empty rhetoric.

          Hunter Wallace was one of the people who first offered advice on how to tackle the Jewish Question.

          (ie. focus on individual Jews like George Soros, not “the Jews”)

    • johnUK
      January 21, 2011 at 5:23 PM

      @Gay State Girl

      No.

      Kevin MacDonald responded to this allegation when it featured in a Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles article on May 9, 2008 article called The Professor Anti-Semites Love.

      http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/JewishJournalComment.doc

  54. johnUK
    January 21, 2011 at 5:30 PM

    Did this game get any media attention in the US JFK Reloaded. a JFK assassination simulator were you play the role of Lee Harvey Oswald?

  55. Gay State Girl
    January 21, 2011 at 7:39 PM

    Gay Area Guy
    What was he referring to with taxes?

    Britain should look into changing its National Anthem
    God save our gracious Queen,
    Long live our noble Queen,
    God save the Queen:
    Send her victorious,
    Happy and glorious,
    Long to reign over us:
    God save the Queen.

    O Lord, our God, arise,
    Scatter her enemies,
    And make them fall.
    Confound their politics,
    Frustrate their knavish tricks,
    On thee our hopes we fix:
    God save the Queen.

    Thy choicest gifts in store,
    On her be pleased to pour;
    Long may she reign:
    May she defend our laws,
    And ever give us cause
    To sing with heart and voice
    God save the Queen

    From every latent foe,
    From the assassins blow,
    God save the Queen!
    O’er her thine arm extend,
    For Britain’s sake defend,
    Our mother, prince, and friend,
    God save the Queen!

    So yes. God save the Queen. Shouldn’t they have a national anthem that glorifies the people and not justr the monarchy?

    • Wade in MO
      January 24, 2011 at 1:12 AM

      ” Shouldn’t they have a national anthem that glorifies the people and not justr the monarchy”

      The problem is that Britain is not a nation, it is a monarchical union. It’s official name is not Great Britain. It is The United KINGDOM of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Some areas that we call Britain not only aren’t in Britian, but technically aren’t even in the UK. The Isle of Man and the Channel Islands are only connected to Britain through the crown as feudal possesions I believe. I don’t know the ins and outs of british territorial claims though. My general point is that Britain is not more a nation than the EU is in many ways.

  56. Bay Area Guy
    January 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM

    Wow, with white “men” like this, is it any wonder that NAM’s mock us/no longer fear us?

    http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2011/01/24/the-2011-award-for-the-most-pathetic-excuse-for-a-white-man/

    Um, sorry Mr. Aussie, but somebody has obviously never explained the rules of victimization to you.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 23, 2011 at 11:32 PM

      Although I think Robert Bentley gets the pathetic white man of the year award for his “white wimp shuffle,” as James Edwards would call it.

  57. Wade in MO
    January 23, 2011 at 11:50 PM

    This topic may have been dealt with here before, but I haven’t seen it so I’ll talk about it.

    The topic is: What do IQ studies have to do with “preserving” races?
    I constantly hear white nationalists talk about preserving the white race because were so smart and superior, but is everyone really smart and superior? If we were going to breed a “herrenvolk”, then shouldn’t we just use the best of humanity regardless of race? For example, If there is a white woman with a 130 IQ and no inherited genetic diseases and a black male with the same attributes, wouldn’t it make more sense, superiority wise, to breed the woman with the black instead of a white male with a significantly lower IQ. In fact, if we were really serious about it, shouldn’t we exterminate the white male so that it doesn’t pollute the 130 IQ smart genes? The same can be said for (at least what I’ve read about) the german book by Thilo Sarrazin. He talks about resisting immigration for IQ reasons, but would he take massive immigration from East Asia because they score a few points higher on the IQ tests? Would he want bunches of jews back in Germany?

    My point here is that IQ is not a good basis for nationalism or pretty much anything else, not even the bogus idea of biological racial preservationism.

    • Bay Area Guy
      January 23, 2011 at 11:59 PM

      Yeah, I’ve never understood why so many WN’s obsess on IQ’s and HBD. It makes no sense from a practical perspective.

      For the sake of argument, let’s say that NAM’s are indeed intellectually inferior and unable to compete in the modern world.

      My answer: So what. How in the hell is that going to convince the average white person to become a white nationalist? Sure, he might acknowledge that it’s true, but is he going to go out of its way to be a WN? Is he really going to say, “oh yes, those damn NAM’s and their low IQ’s, I ought to become a white nationalist!”

      No. WN’s need to appeal to the white masses in terms of their self-interest. Low NAM IQ’s won’t do the trick, but other appeals (ie. financial and political appeals to the white masses) can.

      WN’s need to pick and choose their battles, and the IQ’s of NAM’s just isn’t one of those battles worth fighting.

      • Wade in MO
        January 24, 2011 at 1:03 AM

        ” I’ve never understood why so many WN’s obsess on IQ’s ”

        Maybe becuasue theirs aren’t that high?

    • LaFleur
      January 24, 2011 at 8:37 AM

      One thing that annoys me is the lists of historical figures and their assumed IQ. How do they know?

      The posters on HBD blogs seem to regard anyone with a recorded IQ under 120 as beneath contempt. They’re always reeling off lists of the greats like Shakespeare and Bach, etc., and that’s all well and good, but there is more to a culture and community than the IQ outliers, or even the STEM majors.

      A lot of these HBD guys, who are just WNs in a suit, seem to fantasize about being part of some nobility and bossing the volk around. In a certain sense they’re like the Afrokookniks who like to think they were Nefertiti in another life.

      Most white people do not have an IQ over 120. They have to look at writing of some of the HBDers like Steve Sailer and Lawrence Auster and ask themselves “What’s in it for me?”

  58. Matt
    January 25, 2011 at 12:18 PM

    A few weeks ago someone mentioned that the Papuans of Papua/New Guinea (as distinguished from Micronesian inhabitants of PNG) were known to be partially descended from early hominids; I think the commenter mentioned erectus. While this specific claim is not true, about 6% of their DNA was shown to derive from the recently discovered Denisova Homonin. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denisova_hominin ). This may not have any significance, given that Europeans and Asians have about 4% Neanderthal DNA.

    • Robert Lindsay
      January 25, 2011 at 12:25 PM

      Denisovans are Homo Sapiens though. And Neandertal DNA in Euros and Asians doesn’t seem to have made up stupid or fucked us up.

      It’s incorrect to say that Denisovan DNA is not Homo Sapiens. It is Homo Sapiens Denisovans, a subspecies.

  59. Matt
    January 25, 2011 at 12:20 PM

    …but if this is not significant, we’re left to find another explanation as to WTF is wrong with them.

    • Robert Lindsay
      January 25, 2011 at 12:22 PM

      They are just very primitive humans, that’s all. And their IQ’s seem to be very low too. There are lots of low IQ primitive groups out there. They don’t necessarily have non H.s.s. DNA. Maybe they have just not evolved very high intelligence, who knows?

      • Matt
        January 26, 2011 at 6:42 AM

        I know a lot of HBD types make fun of Jared Diamond, but a lot of the stuff he says makes sense, as far as it goes. That is to say that it makes sense until it clashes with the bits of reality that he chooses to ignore. For example, he discusses PNG people a lot, because he’s done a lot of his research (in ornithology, lol) there. HBD folks like to say that he says that the PNGs are smarter than the resyt of us. I remember no such statement, but that kind of misrepresentation is typical of the black and white thinking (no pun intended) that make WNs appear to be such idiots to sane folk. What he really says is they’re4 no dumber than the rest of us. And intuitively, that makes sense. It must take some smarts to survive in the jungle, knowing which plants heal you, feed you, or kill you. But then you have things like not being able to grasp the concept of infectious, sexually transmitted disease, something the rest of us figured out before we had the germ theory, and you wonder just how they did survive all that time.

        And I do have a problem with HBD, but not an ideological one. I just don’t think the evolutionary history of the human race is long enough to account for much HBD. If I were the history of life on earth, the human race would be the end of my big toenail. So I have to assujme most of the observable differences in intelligence, etc. are environmental or cultural.

        • Wade in MO
          January 26, 2011 at 9:08 PM

          ” I just don’t think the evolutionary history of the human race is long enough to account for much HBD. If I were the history of life on earth, the human race would be the end of my big toenail.”

          And how much toenail would primates in general ocunt for? Probably not much more, yet were quite different. That small 2 – 3% difference with Chimpanzees means all the difference in the world.

          Also, selective breeding con cause divergences relatively quickly. It seems to me that different enviroments may change selection pressures and cause some diversion. I don’t think it’s enough to equate race with subspecies, but it’s definitely there. Also, saying that something is totally cultural ignores the possibility of interaction of genetics and culture/enviroment.

  60. Bay Area Guy
    January 26, 2011 at 11:52 PM

    This would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

    http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/the-beauty-the-beast.html

    Fuck facebook.

    • LaFleur
      January 27, 2011 at 8:49 AM

      Touche. I don’t use Facebook either. I fail to see how a glorified bulletin board qualifies one to be Man of the Year. Guess I’m not part of that creative class that David Brooks is always creaming his jeans over.

      So that’s what Western civilization has come to. Creativity = come up with a new way for the corporatocracy to wind its tentacles even tighter. I’m not impressed.

    • Gay State Girl
      January 27, 2011 at 9:05 AM

      I liken Mark Zuckerberg to Napolean in Animal Farm. he started off as a college student so supposedly he would be more sympathetic, but he took advantage of power.
      I do question Julian’s motives though. It seems that he is more narcissistic than anything else. Don’t get me started on Atzmon.

      • Bay Area Guy
        January 27, 2011 at 3:56 PM

        @ GSG

        Don’t get me started on Atzmon.

        Of course, I already know he’s your idol! ;-)

        But yeah, when Zuckerberg is the man of the year, you know this country is running on fumes.

        • Gay State Girl
          January 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM

          Atzmon constantly rails against jewish tribalism, yet he is thoroughly obsessed with jewish identity. He just can’t move on with his life.

        • Gay State Girl
          January 27, 2011 at 4:18 PM

          Zuckerberg put me through hell.

        • Bay Area Guy
          January 27, 2011 at 4:54 PM

          The problem with Jews like Atzmon, or whites like Tim Wise, is that they claim to support post-tribalism/let’s all become generic human beings, and yet their very identities and careers are based on their ethnic/racial backgrounds.

          If whiteness really did go away, Wise would have to come up with another hustle.

          If Jewishness went away, Atzmon would not be notable aside from his musical talents.

        • Gay State Girl
          January 27, 2011 at 5:21 PM

          Gay Area Guy
          Obviously “Whiteness” is an integral part of Tim Wise’s life and ditto with Gilad Atzmon with “Jewishness” if they’ve based their careers on them.

        • Crat
          January 27, 2011 at 5:44 PM

          A friend once said that all politics extends from how we were treated as children.

          I’m guessing the way Wise talks about working class whites and how Robert Reich slags off on whites–construction workers, in particular–comes from being picked on. Now they intend to exact their revenge even to the point of suicide as long as they get those Philistines.

  61. Matt
    January 27, 2011 at 10:35 AM

    How is a privileged, Ivy League douchebag like Zucker ever sympathetic to actual humans?

  62. Wade in MO
    January 27, 2011 at 11:32 PM

    Looks like two fundamentally horrible groups of people, Israelis and Turks, killing each other.

  63. Wade in MO
    January 28, 2011 at 1:52 AM

    Robert, have you ever seen this blog? It seems inactive, the last post is from April 2010, but it seems to have topics that you might like.

    http://liberalbiorealism.wordpress.com/

  64. Gay State Girl
    January 28, 2011 at 4:56 PM

    Condi was onto something when she said the Palestinian refugees could be resettled in Latin America. It would be the best thing for them (of course it would be a disaster for those countries but that’s besides the point.) Now of course the whole Palestinian Solidarity blogosphere is getting all worked up.

    Someone suggested that *some* Palestinians could be settled in the Sinai, which wouldn’t be such a bad idea, as the populations in the WB and Gaza are growing exponentially and overpopulating and those areas and they could live more comfortably in the Sinai but of course the retarded cultural left and their pet Arabs used that as an excuse as well.

    • Wade in MO
      January 28, 2011 at 6:44 PM

      “Condi was onto something when she said the Palestinian refugees could be resettled in Latin America”

      Maybe we can leave the Palestinians in Palestine and resettle the jews in Britain. The British are pretty much a bunch of jews anyway.

      • Bay Area Guy
        January 28, 2011 at 6:53 PM

        The British are pretty much a bunch of jews anyway.

        Hehe.

        So true! :)

        • Wade in MO
          January 28, 2011 at 7:03 PM

          “So true! ”

          It is. Just read this kike Andrew W Levin’s post on the Rushton page. He advocates using jewish tactics. Maybe he learned them from his mother.

      • Gay State Girl
        January 28, 2011 at 7:06 PM

        So true. I am very much an anglophile and I have always fantasized about Britain being overrun with jews. Maybe we can get them to change that god awful national anthem :)

  65. Gay State Girl
    January 28, 2011 at 8:34 PM

    Gay Area Guy
    I have some ideas on how to reform the education system. What would you think of requiring (paid) internships as early as middle school to teach school children about work ethic and the value of money. I know this might conflict with minimum working age which is fourteen in most states and a lot of parents will raise holy hell. But I think in addition to academics, extracurriculars, and community service, school children need to be exposed to the professional world.

    I also think they need to make business, technology, government, and media mandatory subjects but make them Pass/Fail, without the stigma. One thing I noticed is that students, particularly in college will take courses because they know they’ll do well instead of taking more challenging courses. The result is that they do not receive a quality education as students typically shy away from more technical courses such as business and technology, high level science and mathematics or professional programs or even more traditional liberal arts, which are seen as more difficult in favor of taking more contemporary liberal arts such as ethnic/gender/sexuality studies or other classes that they perceive as easy, because they know they will get an easy A. High Schools and Universities have to offer more courses that are exclusively Pass/Fail so that there is no stigma of taking a Pass/Fail class, so that students won’t be intimidated from taking more difficult courses and getting a quality education.

    We also have to do away with a lot of Gen Ed requirements. They are good for weeding out people, but they prevent students from getting a more specialized education as they take up so much of typical college course loads.

  66. Wade in MO
    January 30, 2011 at 6:42 PM

    Robert, or anyone on this site, can you figure this picture out? I don’t know of any major war occuring in East Asia where this might be done. I don’t know if this is actual violence or fucked up japanese porno.

    NOT SAFE FOR WORK

    http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-04-13/1239597755719.jpg

  68. Gay State Girl
    February 1, 2011 at 10:47 AM

    Lindsay, you haven’t commented on the recent turmoil in Egypt or the Jasmine Revolution in Tunisia that other blogs and news sites seem to be preoccupied with. It seems other political bloggers are pretty naive. Do you forsee a Domino effect of democratic revolutions in the Middle East or do you think Islamists and other factions will take advantage of the political unrest?

  69. Shawn
    February 1, 2011 at 2:09 PM

    I just got back from Egypt 1 day before the chaos broke out in the streets (I got back last Monday).

    I am not sure if their people can be trusted with democracy to elect a leader we and Israel would approve of.

  70. ski
    February 2, 2011 at 8:50 AM

    Australian gets 3 years in jail for making an anti-semitic video

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/31/3125998.htm?section=justin

  71. Hacienda
    February 2, 2011 at 8:55 AM

    “Australian gets 3 years in jail for making an anti-semitic video”

    Wow. Just Wow. Looks like its up to NE Asians to be the Honest Race.
    Blacks can hold their dicks, whiteys just depopulate. Jews dissemble. Wow. Talk about things just falling into place for us. NE Asians FTW.

    • Wade in MO
      February 2, 2011 at 5:26 PM

      “Blacks can hold their dicks, whiteys just depopulate. Jews dissemble”

      To a large degree, the first two eminate from the third. Attack the root and solve the problem.

      ” NE Asians FTW.”

      Good for them. I’m not one of those people who hates europe and europe derived countries in favor of the far east, but I don’t mind that the east is doing well. People not allowing themselves to be jewslaves is alright with me.

      I do wonder though, is it just that the jews haven’t gotten to them, or is there a consciousness about the jew in east asia? I heard that even during the alliance with Hitler, the Japs were praising the jews. Maybe they believed the lies of the Disraeli slaves and didn’t know about their crookedness.

      • Hacienda
        February 2, 2011 at 7:49 PM

        Jews have this ability to appeal to all sides. Something of Judaica for everyone. I’m sure it has something to do with their origination in the crossroads of Israel. The center of balance for Asia, Africa. Plus their long education in both suffering and achievement in Europe.

        This is appealing to Asians. They’re a fascinating people to Asians, if you can see beyond the yellow fever, totalitarian arrogance, etc.

        • Wade in MO
          February 2, 2011 at 8:51 PM

          “They’re a fascinating people to Asians, if you can see beyond the yellow fever, totalitarian arrogance, etc.”

          Give them a few more decades and there will be no seeing beyond any of that, unless they’re morons like most americans.

    • Gay State Girl
      February 2, 2011 at 6:40 PM

      Hacienda
      Quit bragging. The North East Asians I know, at least the expats try hard to emulate jews.

    • LaFleur
      February 2, 2011 at 11:36 PM

      Oh boo hoo, women don’t want to work for the libertardians for free. You can keep your gig, suckers.

      Wikipedia sucks shit. It’s full of bad writing and propaganda. My time is far too precious.

      MRAs are such whiny cunts. They’re every bit as bad as the worst radical feminists. Nothing like passing off inane just-so stories as the search for truth and wisdom.

      If you want to see what women are interested in, visit Jezebel and take a look at the articles.

      Women make up 80 percent of the fiction reading audience in this country. Granted, they’re not all reading Celine and George Eliot, but there you have it. I doubt the number of women who piss their time away on pop-culture crap is any bigger than the number of men who spend their lives worshiping overpaid, retarded roid head professional athletes. “Men’s” and “Women’s” magazines are mostly crap. Most American men are the same nekulturny idiots that most American women are.

  73. Wade in MO
    February 2, 2011 at 10:43 PM

    Hey Robert, did you know that the original indians of california were blaque? Did you know that Haitians were descended from blaques olmecs who migrated from mesoamerica? Did you know that Cambodians are descendents of blaque native americans?

    Discover it all here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqZGM5S8aCQ

    And I thought nordicists were ridiculous…

    Happy Blaque “Histree” Munth Yallzzzz!!!!”

  74. Wade in MO
    February 3, 2011 at 8:54 PM

    Awesome.

    http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/03/kenneth-cold/

    “Millions are in uproar in #Cairo. Rumor is they heard our new spring collection is now available online at http://bit.ly/KCairo -KC
    about 5 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® “

  75. Wade in MO
    February 4, 2011 at 9:55 PM

    Robert have you ever heard of this guy, “sexologist” Dr. Garth Mundinger-Klow? I understand this is sexology, but this shit is just disgusting…

    http://sexology411.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/pony-training-five-case-studies-on-pony-play-ownership-and-kinky-submission/

    From the description:
    Dr. Garth-Mundinger Klow sets his naughty academic gaze on the curious act of pony play, where a man or woman is trained to be and transforms into a pony, with an assortment of accoutrements, tails, hooves, and reins

    ____________
    http://sexology411.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/the-golden-festish/

    From the description:
    “WET DESIRES!
    Watersports, golden showers, pee play, hard kink–one of the more extreme sexual activities daring people engage in. In these 15 case histories, Dr. Garth-Mundinger Klow talks to men and women who explain why it is they enjoy being urinated on, or urinating on others, drinking and playing in the golden ponds of lust. Each case history is told in full, unedited detail, giving blow-by-blow long streams of narrative adventures that expose just how down and dirty people will go to satisfy their gutter needs as they…

    GO FOR THE GOLD!”
    _____________
    http://www.amazon.com/Sperm-Gone-Wild-Addiction-ebook/dp/B003TLMOKG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2&s=digital-text&qid=1296885194&sr=1-3

    From the description:
    “My name is Olivia and I’m 20 years old. I love cum. I’m addicted to seeing it, feeling it, and tasting it. I love the way it slides down my throat and how I can smear it all over my tits. But I’ve always had one problem with cum so far; there’s never enough. I did 25 guys in a gang bang once. There was a lot of cum, but it wasn’t enough. I wanna have cum all over my body, and in every orifice. I want my stomach full of cum. I wanna shit out cum from my tight asshole. I wanna snort cum like cocaine, and do cum shots. I wanna have so much cum that I can cover every single pore on my body, and fill every hole to overflowing. When the need became overwhelming, I called my friend Jennifer and told her what I wanted to do. She knows some people in the porn industry and she can get up to 100 guys but I told her I wanted more. She asked how many, and I said 1,000. So she set up a website; any man that wants to “Cum On Olivia” just head to this address, and bring plenty of sperm.”
    _________

    Come the fuck on. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to eat again.

    • Wade in MO
      February 4, 2011 at 9:59 PM

      Why is my comment awaiting moderation? Did you ban me or something? WTF!?

      • Robert Lindsay
        February 4, 2011 at 10:05 PM

        I doubt if you will ever get banned.

        You had a lot of links in there, and that automatically goes into the possible spam box. It’s automatic; there is nothing I can do about it.

        • Wade in MO
          February 4, 2011 at 10:11 PM

          “I doubt if you will ever get banned.”

          Sweet. I got the hook up. Just don’t tell Alpha. I think she’s still pissed at me.

    • Robert Lindsay
      February 4, 2011 at 10:01 PM

      I think all that is cool. I knew some chicks who liked to be pissed on. I even pissed on a couple of them because they asked me too. One of them was only 15 yrs old!

      One liked to drink it so I pissed in her mouth.

      Chicks are fucking crazy man. They are so perverted!

      As far as the cum freak, that is cool too. World needs more cum sluts.

      • Wade in MO
        February 4, 2011 at 10:18 PM

        ” World needs more cum sluts”

        Where are these chicks? i wouldn’t want to date one (or kiss one or touch one) but I wouldn’t mind making a contribution to make her happy.

        “Chicks are fucking crazy man. They are so perverted!”

        I don’t have much experience with women. In fifteen years I will probably be the 40 year old virgin. It just seems that the females I know all seem like prudes. Obviously they wouldn’t want to show stuff in public, but I just don’t see many women around doing that kind of thing. Then again, maybe this is due to my inexperience.

        I do know that seeing Sarah Palin do bukkake would be hilarious though…(of course one wonders how she went from 2-year governor of Alaska to vice-presidential candidate…hmmm…..)

  76. Wade in MO
    February 5, 2011 at 12:25 AM

    Different languages, same songs.

    There’s not much of a point here, but there has got to be a linguistics lesson in here somewhere.

    Orignal Song: Ruslana – Wild Dances – Mix of Ukrainian and English

    Cover 1: Hồ Quỳnh Hương – vũ điệu hoang dã – Vietnamese

    Cover 2: Ziyoda (Зиёда) – Sevmaganman – Uzbek

    ______________________________

    Song 2: Despina Vandi ( Δέσποινα Βανδή) – O Perittos (Ο περιττός) – Greek

    Cover: Haifa Wehbe ( هيفاء وهبي) – Ya Hayat Albi – Lebanese Arabic

    __________________

    I don’t believe this last one is a cover. It’s just neat that they fit lyrics in another language to it. (I’m sure it happens everyday, but……)

    Song 3: Snow – Informer – English (???)

    Cover: Aneela featuring Arash – Chori Chori – Farsi and Hindi

    I think the most interesting is the Ruslana song. Who would have thought that a song released in Ukraine would be remade in Vietnam? I can understand fellow CIS member Uzbekistan, but Vietnam surprises me.

  77. Shawn
    February 5, 2011 at 6:42 AM

    The liberal John Rawls urges us to use “redistributive justice” to compensate the losers in what he called, “the genetic lottery.”

  78. Gay State Girl
    February 5, 2011 at 8:06 AM

    Gay Area Guy
    Case in point.
    http://mondoweiss.net/2011/02/america-is-about-to-begin-a-love-affair-Now Phil Weiss is using the Egyptian situation to promote Arabic culture. What an idiot.

    • Gay State Girl
      February 5, 2011 at 8:08 AM

      Sorry.
      http://mondoweiss.net/2011/02/america-is-about-to-begin-a-love-affair-with-the-arab-world.html
      Why must Americans embrace Arabic culture just because they sympathize with tthe people?

      • Bay Area Guy
        February 5, 2011 at 1:02 PM

        Weiss is nuts.

        Does he REALLY think that tourism in the Arab/Muslim world will increase? Does he REALLY think that there will be a cultural love affair with the Arab/Muslim world? Is he REALLY serious with this crap?

        And that whole line about how he couldn’t participate in the 60s movements and was “too walled in by my straightness and maleness to appreciate stonewall and feminism” is just sad.

        Weiss is a piece of work.

        Although I still think Yvonne Ridley takes the cake. She’s in a league of her own.

        • Bay Area Guy
          February 5, 2011 at 1:19 PM

          On the other hand, Brother Nathanael has a much more realistic take on this. He hopes that this revolution in Egypt will set the stage for the demise of Israel.

          http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=602

        • Hacienda
          February 5, 2011 at 1:55 PM

          “too walled in by my straightness and maleness to appreciate stonewall and feminism” is just sad.

          He’s a JEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUUUUWWWWWWWWWW. His words are bullets aimed at your head and mine via richochet off this own head!

        • Gay State Girl
          February 5, 2011 at 5:55 PM

          Gay Area Guy
          Is that what you want? I thought you were more interested in simply ending US financial and military support for Israel.

          I say we relocate Israel to North Western Australia, pull all our troops out of the Middle East, and start drilling our own oil or develop alternative energy, so that Islam will become irrelevant.

        • Wade in MO
          February 5, 2011 at 6:38 PM

          “I say we relocate Israel to North Western Australia”

          Hell no. Leave them there and let them draw the muslims fire. Besides, if the jews were able to “”integrate”" themselves into austrailian society the way the have in the US, them they could possibly control Austrailia. Austrailia has some of the largest deposits of metals needed for nuclear energy, not to mention bombs. If the jews were in a similar postion as the arabs as energy dealers, there’s no telling what kind of damage they could do. Most of it would probably be to East Asia, but I don’t wish the jews on anyone.

          If they were a seperate country that would be awful too. They can’t even keep a good border with the Palestinians. What makes you think Austrailia would be any different.

        • Gay State Girl
          February 5, 2011 at 8:34 PM

          Wade
          Australia is almost as big as the continental US, they would have plenty of room to create a sovereign state. The idea is to give the jews a state with plenty of their own natural resources and natural beauty (potential tourist attractions,) so they have no desire to interfere with anyone else.

          I think a jewish presence (or any western presence) would be a good thing for WA. Many Australians and New Zealanders complain that North Americans and Europeans consider Oceana too far out to travel to. A Jewish State could attract industry and tourism to thaat part of the world.

          FP3YP
          Go start your own Asian ADL.

        • Bay Area Guy
          February 5, 2011 at 8:34 PM

          Is that what you want? I thought you were more interested in simply ending US financial and military support for Israel.

          Tsk tsk tsk, if only it were that simple.

          But I’m afraid that for this sort of change to happen, the Jewish lobby would have to go down in flames. And believe me, organized Jewry isn’t going down quietly.

          Besides, given all of the wonderful things Israel has bequeathed to the U.S., I wouldn’t mind them taking a turn for the worse. I say we reward their tremendous loyalty and their great strategic help by letting them be eaten alive by a bunch of angry Arabs and Muslims.

          I like FPY’s suggestion. I say we completely cut Israel off and let a bunch of angry Arabs give them hell.

        • Bay Area Guy
          February 5, 2011 at 8:38 PM

          The idea is to give the jews a state with plenty of their own natural resources and natural beauty (potential tourist attractions,) so they have no desire to interfere with anyone else.

          I wish this would work, GSG, I really do.

          Can you assure me that Jews will truly leave everyone else alone, and will cease meddling in their affairs? Can you assure me that they won’t promote multiculturalism, neoconservatism, neoliberalism, and all the other various vices they promote?

          If you can assure me of this, I would be all for it. But otherwise, I would hate to think of what would happen to Aussies.

        • Gay State Girl
          February 5, 2011 at 8:39 PM

          Gay Area Guy
          It’s not that simple for me. I have relatives and friends in Israel. I can’t bring myself feel the same as you. But I am different from other jews as I would decline a job at the state deppartment if I were offered because I know I couldn’t possibly be unbiased.

        • Gay State Girl
          February 5, 2011 at 8:48 PM

          Gay Area Guy
          Jews do not possess a genetic defect that makes them inclined to meddle in others’ affairs and Neoconservatism, Multiculturalism, Neoliberalism etc are not present in all jews. Insane political correctness is mostly from the Baby Boomers and the generation before that and Gen X and the Millenials are slated to take over and we all grew up with insane PC and many of us are quite fatigued by it. And my idea is to give them a sovereign country and NOT make them citizens of Australia or New Zealand so they cannot meddle in those country’s affairs. The majority of Australians live in Eastern Australia

          Jesus I can bend over backwards for you and still you have something to say.

        • Bay Area Guy
          February 5, 2011 at 8:54 PM

          Jesus I can bend over backwards for you and still you have something to say.

          GSG, you should know by now that I have nothing against you. And you should also recall that I never asked you to bend over backwards for me or kiss gentile ass.

          You yourself have said that you’re the most reasonable Jew around, and I’m inclined to agree with you. Sadly, that does not reflect well on your co-ethnics.

          To reiterate, I have nothing against you, GSG. I just can’t help but be a bit distrustful of your kin.

          That being said, if they could be given a state in Western Australia where they were truly separate, self-sufficient, and not inclined to meddle, that would be fine by me.

          Now, how to make this work out is another story.

        • Gay State Girl
          February 5, 2011 at 9:04 PM

          Gay Area Guy
          I know all that but I have a vested interest in the welfare of the Israeli people. You have to understand that I can not simply let my relatives and friends be fed to the Arabs.

          Gen X and Millenial jews are much different than previous Generations; even those that live in Israel. We did not grow up with the Holocaust or antisemitism and most of us just want to live our lives. Israelis tend to be militaristic but many of them like to live abroad, particularly in Europe and they act out, no one notices because Israelis are tame in comparison to European Muslims.

  79. Gay State Girl
    February 5, 2011 at 6:01 PM

    I can understand and respect that Muslims want sovereignty of their own lands and don’t like Western interference but to compare this to the Civil Right movements is an insult to those groups.

    I find Weiss and others extremely naive. They’re willing to jump on the bandwagon of anyone who opposes Zionism or Neoconservatism without really knowing anything about them. Weiss even admitted that he knows nothing about Arab culture.

    • Crat
      February 6, 2011 at 1:14 PM

      GSG,

      What would be so bad with assimilation?

      Granted, it’s not an option for religious Jews, but they don’t really care about Israel anyway. It seems as tho atheist Jews are the most obsessed with Israel. If the Bible is bunkum, why not just marry a Gentile and spare your descends the misery of feeling like an outsider?

      • Gay State Girl
        February 6, 2011 at 3:42 PM

        Crat I don’t understand how that relates to my previous posts. were you implying that you believe Israeli Jews should move to America and assimilate. Some might find that offensive. I’m not one of those jews that loses sleep over assimilation or intermarriage but unlike Philip Weiss, I don’t feel it is necessary for integration into society. As the child of two jewish parents, I don’t feel like that makes me an outsider in American society. I used to feel that way as I grew up (modern) Orthodox, but I don’t feel it anymore. Jews are more accepted in American society than Muslims. Regardless of who I marry or how I raise my children, my children won’t be considered outsiders by the majority of americans and I’ll make sure they do not consider themselves so and instill a patriotic American identity.

        Secondly, while I have no problem with being in the minority, others prefer to be surrounded by other jews (or Asians, Africans, Hispanics etc) Jewishness is more of a culture than a religion and whether you like it or not, we do have our own culture and language (Yiddish) that defines us. Some Jews might want to have an independent country to preserve their language and culture. some Jews might be offended when you suggest that they should assimilate because it implies that they should abandon their culture.

  80. fpy3p
    February 5, 2011 at 8:13 PM

    Australia? How about Antarctica or or sub-Saharan Africa? The kikes can do as they wish to the niggers or penguins, but you can forget about crawling into East Asia.

  81. fpy3p
    February 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM

    Or how about just totally cut off all aid to Israhell, and let the Arabs eat them for dinner.

  82. fpy3p
    February 5, 2011 at 8:59 PM

    BAG, the most reasonable Jews are Brother Kapner, Gilad Atzmon, Israel Shamir etc. Gay State Bitch is just a softer version of the same old shit.

  83. Wade in MO
    February 6, 2011 at 4:41 PM

    “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgoA8Vt96Os&feature=feedu”

    I wonder if this guy crossed the land bridge back to siberia.

  84. fpy3p
    February 6, 2011 at 8:37 PM

    Oh my! I have no purpose in this world, because, someone I didn’t even address wanted to start a flame war for no reason? Fuck off.

    • Robert Lindsay
      February 6, 2011 at 8:42 PM

      fpy, you may have well have addressed her. When you say niggers this and niggers that on here, you’re basically talking to every Black person on this board. I encourage the Blacks on this board to fight back against racist abuse.

      If you don’t want Blacks to flame on you, don’t go around saying niggers this and niggers that.

      See, in a way, you are addressing every Black person on this board, including Chic Noir, when you say niggers, niggers, bla bla.

      If you don’t want them fighting back, simply don’t use the word. It’s very simple.

      • Hacienda
        February 7, 2011 at 8:44 PM

        Yeah. I use the word when I feel like there is no better substitute for it.
        For R2 black=nigger. No difference.

  85. Wade in MO
    February 6, 2011 at 9:50 PM

    HOLY SHIT!!! HOLY SHIT!!!

    A good article written by a jew!!! Apparently this guy is an eastern european post soviet jew immigrant to the US. If more jews were like him I wouldn’t hate them so much. From what I’ve heard, eastern european jews are a hell of a lot better than the POS american jews that have been here for decades or generations. Here’s the article: http://www.vdare.com/girin/110204_russia.htm
    It is an article about the various crimes criminals commit in Russia. A large part of it deals with the activities of the subhuman garbage from the Caucausus, but it also talks about east asians and central asians too. Incidentally, if you, like me, watched that neo-nazi beheading video and actually felt sorry for those crimmigrants, watch this: http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/chechclear-video-beheading-russian-soldier-chechen-rebels/

    LOL @ this Chechen POS
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f64_1227100465

    • Wade in MO
      February 6, 2011 at 9:55 PM

      Sorry, the russian soldier beheading video is an old link I’ve had for a while. It appears to be down. I’ll find another if it’s still out. I haven’t watched it in forever, so I don’t know if it is.

      • Wade in MO
        February 6, 2011 at 10:06 PM

        Can’t find one now. Suffice it to say that when a Chechen is killed, no crime is committed.

        I’ve been reading more about this situation more lately. Most of the Russian history I’ve read has been older pre-soviet and some soviet stuff. I’ve had some knowledge about skinheads in modern russia, but I was not seeing them in context. I might not always agree with the Russians, but I will say that they stand up like men. Their government seems to have abandoned them so they fight back themselves. A russian is a better man than almost all americans.

    • Wade in MO
      February 7, 2011 at 12:57 AM

      Oh man, can you believe these Chechen subhumans:

      “An especially grotesque crime took place in the city of Vladivostok. Chechen immigrant Ahmed Hadisov (“hadis” is the Chechen equivalent of the Koranic “hadith”) was a successful local businessman. He owned a café, a movie theater, and several car service companies. Ahmed drove a Japanese SUV and bought one for his young Russian girlfriend Tanya. But even though he took her out to restaurants and showered her with gifts, Hadisov refused to marry Tanya and forced her to have two abortions because his Chechen family would not accept her. When she refused to abort their third child after the doctors warned her she would be infertile (abortion-caused infertility is a major cause of Russia’s demographic collapse), Hadisov’s sister repeatedly warned Tanya not to give birth or otherwise, Ahmed’s family would abduct the baby and take it to Chechnya. The local police did nothing when Tanya’s complained about the Chechens’ threatening behavior. Ahmed then hired a local thug to kill her and their unborn baby. Tanya was stabbed in the abdomen but survived. The baby died a day later because of the mother’s blood loss. Before receiving just seven years for the crime, Ahmed Hadisov flew back home and brought back a Chechen bride approved by his family.”

      That’s disgusting. I’m waiting for some CRT dipshit to come and tell me how this is because of some imagined russian racism. The russians are way to good the these north caucasian pieces of garbage, but then that sounds familiar….

    • Matt
      February 7, 2011 at 7:25 AM

      I read the link. Scary stuff. There is almost Smirnovesque irony in the fact that certain segments of the Russian right (not the Turk-beheading ones, obviously) take an attitude toward Muslims comparable to that of the PC left in the U.S. and Western Europe.

  86. ski
    February 6, 2011 at 10:14 PM

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b9d_1296161950

    Feral blacks being savages in Richmond Va, not a pleasant thing to watch

    • Wade in MO
      February 6, 2011 at 10:23 PM

      “Feral blacks being savages in Richmond Va, not a pleasant thing to watch”

      Utterly disgusting. Gives me sympathy for the Old South.

      • Bay Area Guy
        February 6, 2011 at 10:29 PM

        Utterly disgusting. Gives me sympathy for the Old South.

        Agreed.

        White Southerners were certainly right when they warned us about the perils of integration and multiculturalism.

        But don’t worry, you can always watch the Epic Beard Man beatdown to cheer yourself up!

        • Wade in MO
          February 6, 2011 at 10:58 PM

          “But don’t worry, you can always watch the Epic Beard Man beatdown to cheer yourself up”

          I like the epic beard man video, but I don’t know how common he is. A lot of whites have been taught to try to get along with others and not fight. I know I was growing up. However, the reality is is that if you don’t fight then your are seen as a bitch. If your surrender or give in you are seen as a bitch. Whites need to form groups together for self defense and retribution. I think that part of why epic beard man did what he did is A) because he was a veteran in Vietnam so he had some will to fight from the past and B) he was some what mentally ill. These things probably kept him away from a lot of mainstream whites who would have chided him for defending himself. The other thing I think inhibits whites is that most know that there is no one backing him up, probably not at the fight or in society. There have been whites who have done well fighting people from predatory groups but then all the friends of the person form the predator group jump in and beat them. Whites need to become more clannish and group like. Another disadvantage that whites have in that, despite all the non sense form anti-racists, most whites believe in fair play. They will only fight one on one and unarmed. However, if the other side isn’t going to abide by those rules then you can’t. It’s just the famous Prisoner’s Dilemma: if neither does it, then both benefit, but if one does it and the other doesn’t then the one who didn’t will lose big time. It usually ends up will both groups doing it and the activity becoming more dangerous.

          Personally, I have given up on most of our generation, and I definitely have no faith in my parents generation. I believe that the few conscious people of our generation in the white american ethnic group need to build a foundation for future generations, both intellectual and organizational. These neo-nazi groups aren’t it. Most whites couldn’t care less about HBD. Most find ideologies based on it to be vulgar and stupid, and I have to agree with them.

        • Matt
          February 7, 2011 at 7:31 AM

          Fighting of any kind has been pretty much banned from white society. In any school today, fighting is an expellable offense. When I was in school in the 70s we actually scheduled fights, and I even remember teachers refereeing one or two. And this was not in the great flyover, either. True, there was a lot of stuff that shouldn’t have been allowed to go on–bullying and such–but the essential banishing of all physical conflict has not proved to be a good thing, IMO. Physical conflict is part of being human, and the average middle class white guy today wouldn’t even know what to do in a physical situation. He doesn’t know if he could take a punch, or give one, and I’m guessing he usually couldn’t.

        • Wade in MO
          February 7, 2011 at 11:02 AM

          “Fighting of any kind has been pretty much banned from white society”

          This has to do with feminism. Anytime a young male starts to act like a male his teachers and parents will pump him full of ritalin. Otherwise he is supposed to turn into some wife-beating misogynist.

        • Matt
          February 7, 2011 at 11:23 AM

          Feminism, and the general litigious wussiness of U.S. society.

        • Wade in MO
          February 7, 2011 at 11:35 AM

          ” and the general litigious wussiness of U.S. society”

          If you talk shit like that about my country again I’ll sue you!!!

        • Bay Area Guy
          February 7, 2011 at 12:11 PM

          Anytime a young male starts to act like a male his teachers and parents will pump him full of ritalin. Otherwise he is supposed to turn into some wife-beating misogynist.

          Co-sign. Feminism has ruined Western Civilization.

          They pumped me full of ritalin when I was in elementary school. In addition to growing up with nerdy straight edge parents (not that I’m anti-intellectual or anything), I wonder if being pumped with ritalin played a role in making me the straight edge guy that I am today.

          Not to mention all the Feminist, PC lectures about how we ought to appreciate the inner beauty of even ugly women, how it’s sexist to think of women in terms of sex, how thinking of any woman as a sex object is the most horrible crime in the world (well, outside of being a “racist”), etc.

          Who was behind this? Let’s see, Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem, for starters. Man, this is one busy tribe!

          Speaking of men losing their physical edge. Well, I guess since Jews are a physically inept race in the first place, finding ways to strip white gentile men of their physicality helps makes things easier for them!

        • Wade in MO
          February 7, 2011 at 9:20 PM

          “how thinking of any woman as a sex object is the most horrible crime in the world ”

          Especially if they’ve got two big advertisements hanging on their chest. They whole idea about objectifying women is crap. Only ugly women care about it, and of course it’s because no one wants to objectify them.

  87. Gay State Girl
    February 7, 2011 at 6:27 PM

    “They pumped me full of ritalin when I was in elementary school.”

    You never told me you got pumped up with Ritalin. I got Tenex which I doubt is still legal when I was 8 years old. I passed out in the middle of Toys R Us. Doping kids up on stimulants is child abuse. I’m not a fan of the ADDerall industry on college campuses but it’s sweet revenge.

    • Wade in MO
      February 7, 2011 at 6:31 PM

      ” I’m not a fan of the ADDerall industry on college campuses but it’s sweet revenge”

      Sweet revenge against who? College kids who may have been a year or two old when you started taking Tenex?

      • Gay State Girl
        February 7, 2011 at 6:50 PM

        Wade
        The ADDerall industry makes a mockery of the Pharmaceutical companies and the Psychiatric profession. Most mainstream pharmacies have made it much harder to buy Adderall.

    • Hacienda
      February 7, 2011 at 8:39 PM

      “I got Tenex…I passed out in the middle of Toys R Us”.

      This is LOL. Very funny.

  88. FG
    February 8, 2011 at 6:55 PM

    Can Erranter make his blog public again? I enjoy reading his stuff.

  89. Wade in MO
    February 8, 2011 at 7:50 PM

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/08/halle-berry-daughter-nahla-is-black-from-one-drop-rule_n_820071.html

    “A simple split has become a nasty race war, and now, it’s going back to the ugliest time in American history.

    Halle Berry and Gabriel Aubry, battling for custody of their daughter Nahla, have both thrown some mud, but after word about Aubry’s alleged racism got out, Berry is firing back.

    In a new interview with EBONY Magazine, Berry says (via TMZ), “I feel she’s Black. I’m Black and I’m her mother, and I believe in the one-drop theory.”

    That goes against the wishes of Aubry, who, allegedly, doesn’t like when people call Nahla black. That’s inconvenient for Berry, who, according to sources, told Aubry he was only good for one thing — sperm of a different genetic makeup than her own.

    Berry’s people have also leaked out that Nahla is supposedly afraid to go near Aubry, though the truth seems far too elusive to grab at this point”

    Yeah, halle berry is the typical in this regard. A lot of minorities of mixed ancestry (Jessica Alba, some asians are even calling Tiger Woods asian, LOL!) tend to believe this. They don’t want to be mixed so they become racial extremists. I’d like to see Marcus Garvey chew her mulatto ass out. Better than that, maybe she should go to Haiti and see what they think of mulattos like her calling themselves black.

    • FG
      February 8, 2011 at 7:57 PM

      Yes, I believe Garvey called for the extermination of mulattoes at one point. He didn’t consider the NAACP a black organization because at the time it was staffed mostly by light mixed people.

    • FG
      March 14, 2011 at 5:30 PM

      There is quite a bit of variability in how biracials identify. I’m more familiar with the B-W type because I am one. I think there’s still a strong tendency among Americans to assume that all people with one black-identified parent and one white-identified parent are “really black.” And I bet if you took a poll you would find that the the large majority of the B-W biracials publicly identify as black, consistent with social expectations. Black-identity makes the most sense for them because that is how they are percieved by others and/or that is how they were raised to think of themselves. However, many in this population (probably a minority share) now identify as something else (mixed or even white) . Those belonging to this group are probably more likely possess the following attributes:
      (1) A white mom.
      (2) Raised in a mostly white neighborhood.
      (3) Ambiguous/white physical appearance.

  90. Sojourner Troof
    February 8, 2011 at 8:35 PM

    Robert, I was wondering if you had ever touched on the subject of “Peak Oil.” Wikileaks is reporting that some State Dept. cables are sounding alarm bells about the Saudis overstating their oil reserves by as much as 40%. If this is the case, the gig is up and oil prices will inevitably start to rise causing economic dislocations around the globe. This is exactly what Michael Ruppert is talking about in the documentary “Collapse” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAyHIOg5aHk Usually around this time of year, oil prices bottom out as driving is heavily curtailed because of the winter snows. This pattern does not appear to be happening this year. Could it be that commodity markets have come to the realization that this precious commodity may be reaching its peak in production and will begin to decline shortly as the emerging markets of China and India with their huge populations require an increasing amount of pertroleum based products to fuel their rise? While we can run cars on other forms of energy, we will continue to depend on oil for food production and so many other necessary uses. One chilling reality, the meteoric rise in the world’s population over the past century closely mirrors the advent of oil in the form petrochemicals that have facillitated food production fertilizers and pesticides to support increasing populations, it would appear therefore that the decline of the availabilty of oil may precipitate a decline in population, this may take the form of war, starvation etc. It’s something worth looking into.

    • Wade in MO
      February 8, 2011 at 8:50 PM

      Let me guess…Peak Oil is whitey’s fault.

      YT dunz towd awl da sowdees datz dey hayd mo’ oi-ill den dey did.

    • LaFleur
      February 8, 2011 at 9:16 PM

      It is funny how people who get banned eight times keep coming back. We’re a charismatic bunch, I guess.

      I’ve been following this for a couple of years. Phosphorus, one of the main nutrients in fertilizer, is running out as well. I’ve found few people outside peak oil forums who discuss this stuff. I think the green revolution is going to hit the wall over the next 20 to 30 years. America’s soil biocapacity is half what it was 50 years ago, and we’re better off than most countries. Soil compaction from industrial farming is a big problem too.

      Don’t even get me started on Monsatan buying up seed companies and trying to run independent farmers and heirloom seed companies out of business. Or evil investors who drive the price of food up with speculation. There’s a special place in hell for those cocksuckers.

      I think it’s only a matter of time before these and many other issues lead to famine. China’s not going to be sharing all the food it’s growing in Africa with the Africans. The only thing LiveAid did was lead to the doubling of Ethiopia’s population, who are still hungry and even more dependent on aid. What a mess.

      Closer to home, I shudder to think of what will happen to the Great Lakes region and the other shale basin areas once hydrofacturing really gets going. It’s going to suck up all the water and poison everything. Sigh.

      • Wade in MO
        February 8, 2011 at 9:28 PM

        ” China’s not going to be sharing all the food it’s growing in Africa with the Africans”

        How much food will africa produce with desertification on the march there.

        ” shudder to think of what will happen to the Great Lakes region and the other shale basin areas once hydrofacturing really gets going”

        Have you seen the documentary Blue Gold? It’s completely fucked up. Apparently america has military in place to take the water reserves of Canada and Brazil/Paraguay in South America.

        • Sojourner Troof
          February 9, 2011 at 7:08 PM

          Have you seen that there documentary Blue Gold? Gawwwlleeeeee, I tell you whut!! I ain’t never seen nothing like that in my Trailer Park. They got them military all set up to grab up the water reserves from those Mexicans in Brazil and Paraguay, what the hell we should git it, just like we got all their land out west. I hate Mexicans from any country, they’re almost as bad as niggers. Excuse me, I got to go set up at the bus depot and flick boogers while I Wade in Mud.

        • Wade in MO
          February 9, 2011 at 9:30 PM

          Wow. Someone who’s been banned from a blog multiple times, but apparently has nothing better to do but keep coming back to places he’s not wanted just tried to make fun of me. I’ll try to pick up the pieces and move on with my life…

  91. Shawn
    February 9, 2011 at 8:01 AM

    I found this disturbing on a number of levels:

    • Dave Coe
      February 10, 2011 at 9:42 PM

      did you get that from Inmalafide? He had another one which was pretty funny. I will post it when I find it.

    • Wade in MO
      February 10, 2011 at 9:55 PM

      “I found this disturbing on a number of levels”

      I didn’t. It’s the one rap song I’ve intentionally listened to multiple times.

  92. LaFleur
    February 9, 2011 at 10:48 AM

    Some pendejo got shanked by a rooster:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41466543/

    Some of the comments are quite funny.

    No word on whether LaRaza or MEChA plan to prosecute the rooster for a hate crime.

  93. Wade in MO
    February 10, 2011 at 1:23 AM

    A South African Robert Lindsay?

    • Gay State Girl
      February 11, 2011 at 3:00 PM

      Wade
      My cousins in Johannesburg had to get their college degrees through distance learning from the Open University of London because quotas against white students in South Africa.

  94. Gay State Girl
    February 10, 2011 at 5:40 PM

    Gay Area Guy
    Richard Silverstein banned me for presenting my theory about some of the motives of the Palestinian Solidarity Movement. I considered him to be pretty reasonable regarding I/P and jewishness (compared to some of the other “greats”), but he’s an ultra PC nut and still lives in the Holocaust mentality.

    • David
      February 10, 2011 at 7:49 PM

      What is your theory about some of the motives of the PSM?

      • Gay State Girl
        February 10, 2011 at 8:16 PM

        David
        I believe the PSM has been hijacked by a number of groups. The ultra PC left has latched onto it because Israel is the last example of European Colonialism in a non white country so it provides an excuse to talk about how whites oppress people of color. I always said that the singling out of Israel for criticism is more about European colonial gulit than it is about antisemitism. Arabists and Islamists use new found sympathy for the Palestinian cause to whitewash and promote their culture. Middle Eastern leaders use the Palestinian situation to distract their people from their own problems. And Dinosaurs (Paleoconservatives) have jumped on the bandwagon just to bash jews. Sound good?

        • Bay Area Guy
          February 10, 2011 at 8:24 PM

          @ GSG

          I agree.

          I think one of the main reasons why Israel is singled out so much is because (at least in the eyes of the left), it fits the narrative of evil whites oppressing, ethnically cleansing, and degrading poor and noble non-whites.

          Also, it’s not just Arab countries that use the Palestinians. Iran has also jumped on the anti-Zionist bandwagon, and as Cyrus explained in the past, they use it for cynical political reasons.

          And yes, now that Palestinians are a new precious victim group, Arab culture is all of a sudden beyond criticism, hence the whitewashing.

          And I’ll be honest. Personally, I care about the conflict, because for me, it reveals the hypocrisy of diaspora Jews who promote multiculturalism and open borders at home while simultaneously promoting ethnonationalism and Jewish ethnic exceptionalism abroad. For me, something’s gotta give. Either Jews support the nationalist aspirations of white gentiles, or they give up their Jewish nationalism.

        • Gay State Girl
          February 10, 2011 at 8:33 PM

          Israel did take in 7,000 Vietnamese refugees in the 1970′s and many Indians(mainly Computer Programmers) have gotten temporary work Visas although most other workers are illegal. Israel did some stupid things too. They made Chinese guest workers promise not to marry Israeli women which only alienates Israel in the eyes of China and the rest of East Asia. Other than that they only take in Jewish immigrants. They even deport and kill Southern Sudanese refugees even though “Darfur” is the pet cause of Diaspora Jews because it’s an example of Africans being oppressed by Arabs.

        • David
          February 10, 2011 at 8:38 PM

          >Sound good?

          I think your analysis is pretty much accurate*, but really for me the social issue of who is latching onto the movement for what reasons and to promote what agenda is entirely irrelevant. Israel does morally fucked up stuff in the West Bank and Gaza, that’s all there is to it. As a supporter of the Palestinian cause, I am going to accept as allies whoever will aid me regardless of their motivation. To make a World War II analogy (though I agree repression of Palestinians today is not even a tenth as bad as repression of Jews and other minorities during the Holocaust), if I am a Jewish resistance fighter in France, I’m not going to care who my ally is: Communists, Gaullists, Monarchists, whatever. They all collaborated in the French Resistance, even if they thought that each others’ politics in practically every instance besides opposition to the Vichy regime was utter garbage.

          *Except for the paleoconservative part, I don’t think they would be caught dead at a PSM meeting.

        • Gay State Girl
          February 10, 2011 at 9:12 PM

          “*Except for the paleoconservative part, I don’t think they would be caught dead at a PSM meeting.”

          You’d be surprised. I don’t think they are active members of the PSM but many of them have used Israel as an excuse to bash jews, especially during Cast Lead.

          Just because you’re a supporter of the Palestinians doesn’t mean you can’t be critical of other supporters. I feel that supporters of both the Israelis and the Palestinians must be more objective in their analysis of the situation, but everyone is driven by their own biases not rationality.

        • Robert Lindsay
          February 11, 2011 at 1:01 AM

          Hi GSG. I agree with all of your critiques of the PSM here.

  95. David
    February 10, 2011 at 7:48 PM

    Yo Robert, what precisely is the deal with your (relatively) new policy prohibiting rightist/reactionary economics in the comments? It confuses me because at the same time you seem to let the reactionaries run amok politically speaking and, as they say, all politics is economics. I understand it’s your turf and you can make whatever rules you want, but it’s sort of a free speech issue as I see it.

    • Robert Lindsay
      February 10, 2011 at 7:59 PM

      I don’t care about rightwing comments on race, gender, orientation and all that. They can promote fascism and Nazism for all I care. But rightwing economics hits very close to home, and I have decided that I won’t tolerate it anymore. Also they pollute up the comments threads with their rightwing lies, and that annoys and angers me. I have to go through them answering all their lies and crap, and that takes up time, pisses me off and is a waste of time.

      This is a socialist blog and that’s all there is to it. Why should we allow anti-socialist comments on here? WTF for? I already know all their arguments, and their a lies or crap I don’t believe in.

      I can’t ban all the race, gender, culture and orientation commenters on here because then I would have to ban most everyone.

      This blog is weird because it’s very Left on economics, but then we are race realist. The Lefties see the race realism and scream and take off. The only people who come and comment are non-PC on race, many of whom are on rightwing economics.

      In order to comment here you must support Left economics, or if you don’t, shut up about it. As far as all the other stuff, we really don’t care too much.

      Echo chambers are actually quite nice. There are a trillion rightwing sites over there.

      This blog is for folks who are into Left economics, but may or not be PC on race. That’s the purpose of the blog, and the comments reflect that. If you don’t fit into that, you can’t post, real simple.

      • David
        February 10, 2011 at 8:15 PM

        But the thing is, Left economics is a pretty damn broad topic, even the capitalized version. For example, I self-identify a democratic socialist (lower case), but at the same time I feel that capitalist/free market economic systems are the most efficient wealth-generators as yet devised. I simply feel that they generate socially unsustainable and morally repugnant inequality if left to their own devices, and therefore must be complemented with mass-scale programs of wealth redistribution in the form of various state-funded welfare programs (aka the Scandinavian model). Ergo if I saw someone samelessly peddling central-planning bureaucratic Soviet-style “socialism” on this blog I might be obligated to call them out on (what I consider to be) their bullshit, and offer a somewhat restricted “defense” of capitalism. Would you consider this economic viewpoint to be left or right? I am simply worried that you might ban me if I were to engage in such endeavors.

        • Robert Lindsay
          February 11, 2011 at 12:59 AM

          No, not at all. All social democrats are welcome here. We already have some folks on here who hate Communism, think it’s a failure, and advocate market economics.

          You can’t advocate anything to the right of the Democratic Party in the US. You can’t promote Republican Party or Libertarian Party POV’s. You can’t advocate destroying social programs and you can’t be a deficit hawk, which is the same thing. This blog really supports government social programs. That’s one thing that we are really big on.

          Now way would I ban you for promoting social democracy. Anyway, all bans can be petitioned via email, and in most cases, they are reinstated. I doubt if you would ever get banned.

        • Robert Lindsay
          February 11, 2011 at 1:16 AM

          Freedom on speech on the Liberal/Left here on Economics. You can even advocate the line of the US Democratic Party (pretty much). We have some pro Obama folks on here, and they have not yet been banned. It’s a real problem though, because supporting Obama’s vision is close to supporting the Republican Party or rightwing economics!

          Main this is: no advocating austerity or cuts on social spending.

      • Dave Coe
        February 10, 2011 at 9:37 PM

        WOW! This blog is kind of the opposite of the phony main stream left, which embraces pro-corporate economics but banishes anything that is not pc especially on race. While I don’t agree with Robert on everything I have to say this by far is the one of the bost interesting blogs on the web. keep up the good work!

        Based on what I have seen most people who post hear seem to be neither on the left or the right. but its tough to say since those with right wing econ views keep it to themsevles.

        • Robert Lindsay
          February 11, 2011 at 1:04 AM

          You’re right! This blog is great! LOL.

          They need to keep it to themselves. Those folks are allowed to post here as long as they talk about other stuff and shut up about the rightwing economics stuff. We have some commenters on here already like this.

    • Robert Lindsay
      February 11, 2011 at 1:13 AM

      Are you a new poster here or an old poster here, David? I ask because I like you, and I’m wondering if you were here earlier?

      • David
        February 11, 2011 at 12:44 PM

        Yeah, I’m that half-Jewish guy who was posting a lot a while ago. Unfortunately I have become pretty caught up in my vocation, so nowadays I don’t have much more than 20 or 30 minutes a day to devote to reading/commenting on your blog, if that. Mostly I’m just reading as you can surmise. I’m really appreciating a lot of the reposts from your old blog.

        I am always identifiable by the particular idiosyncrasy of the data I input into the “Email” field, even if the actual addresses change between posts.

  96. fpy3p
    February 11, 2011 at 1:57 AM

    Israel is singled out because it is an example of pure jewish evil and hypocrisy. I can’t believe Israel actually made Chinese workers sign such an agreement. Not that kike bitches are good looking anyway. China should make a law that any kike visiting China better keep his inbred, genetic mutant, hook-nosed, ugly ass hands off of Chinese women. I bet the kikes will scream that it’s racist. Typical hypocrisy.

  97. Gay State Girl
    February 11, 2011 at 3:49 PM

    “Not that kike bitches are good looking anyway.”

    I know, we’re perfect for “challenged” Asian men like yourself. Daddy says the solution for disallusioned single jewish women is the abundance of single Chinese men due to China’s high ratio of males to females.

  98. Wade in MO
    February 12, 2011 at 1:25 AM

    One of the best Buchannan articles in a long time.

    Starts out with a bang:
    “George W. Bush must have been the despair of the history department of every school his daddy managed to get him into”

    LOL Good one Pat.

  99. Gay State Girl
    February 13, 2011 at 4:58 AM

    Gay Area Guy
    Philip Weiss is at it again
    http://mondoweiss.net/2011/02/alwan-in-ny-to-feature-all-star-lineup-on-human-rights-in-gaza-and-egypt-too.html
    He thinks his agenda applies to all Americans. Weiss is an arrogant fuck who thinks he knows everything just because he went to Harvard. In Boston we hate the Harvard students.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2011/02/is-islam-superior.html
    I know this was said humorously but Weiss is incredibly naive about this revolution. There has been much violence and political unrest in Tunisia following the Jasmine Revolution.

    • Bay Area Guy
      February 13, 2011 at 2:36 PM

      Gay State Girl, I think Weiss indeed has his head up his rear end if he thinks most Americans give two shits about the plight of either Egyptians or Palestinians.

      If anything, most Americans fear/hate them, and are worried about what’s going on in the Middle East.

      But generally speaking, most Americans are apathetic as fuck when it comes to issues like this, and you’ll have to pry them away from the football game to make them even think about this revolution, much less support it.

      I think that cultural elites like Weiss suffer from the false consensus effect. They think their small cabal of fellow travelers represents the entire world.

      • Gay State Girl
        February 13, 2011 at 4:41 PM

        LOL. Maybe Islam is superior. He’s just proposefully playing with fire. People need to adopt controversial positions and say ridiculous things to distinguish themselves. I believe it was Gypsy Rose Lee, the first high class stripper who said “You gotta have a gimmick if you’re gonna get on top.”

  100. fpy3p
    February 13, 2011 at 7:27 PM

    Philip Weiss is not the problem. Abe Foxman, neocons, Wall Street plutocrats, etc. are the problem. You sound like a fucking Zionist propagandist.

    • Bay Area Guy
      February 13, 2011 at 7:50 PM

      Philip Weiss is not the problem. Abe Foxman, neocons, Wall Street plutocrats, etc. are the problem.

      Absolutely.

      That being said, just because I don’t like Zionist Jews doesn’t mean I’m going to jump on the pro-Arab bandwagon. Therefore, I think the pro-Arab sentiments of people like Weiss needs to be challenged.

      As I’ve said before, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” doesn’t always work out.

      Arabs and other Muslims are an ancient enemy of Western man.

  101. fpy3p
    February 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

    BAG, isn’t is possible that past conflicts between Europeans and Muslims (Arabs & Turks) were just a mutual misunderstanding? My East Asian background gives me a different view of Arabs/Muslims. Most Arabs I’ve encountered in college were all good people. And ancient China had a mutually beneficial and respectful relationship with Arabs, Persians, Turks via Silk Road Trade.

    • Gay State Girl
      February 13, 2011 at 9:16 PM

      FP3YP
      Arabs are eager to play the victim card and reap the benefits just like anyone else. Even the lighter skinned Lebanese Maronites are jumping on the bandwagon because they know they can get something out of it.

    • Wade in MO
      February 13, 2011 at 10:47 PM

      “BAG, isn’t is possible that past conflicts between Europeans and Muslims (Arabs & Turks) were just a mutual misunderstanding?”

      No. The muslims attacked Europe. What’s there to misunderstand?

      We need to remeber the role that the jews played in the islamic conquest of Spain when reading garbage like this.

  102. fpy3p
    February 13, 2011 at 10:05 PM

    Most of the Asian guest workers in the Gulf states are Pakistani/South Asian, not Chinese, Korean etc. When I say I respect Arabs, I’m not referring to Gulf Arabs. I’m talking about Palestinains, Syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians, etc. Gulf Arabs are totally worthless sand animals that are only lucky to have oil underneath them. Otherwise, they would still be trading camels.

    • Gay State Girl
      February 13, 2011 at 10:30 PM

      This goes on in Lebanon too. The South Asian guest workers are not allowed to go to the beaches during their down time.

  103. tulio
    February 14, 2011 at 11:03 PM

    Of the top 10 countries with the lowest murder rates in the world(below 1 murder per 100,000), 6 of the 10 are in black Africa. I bet nobody would’ve guessed that.

    http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-lowest-murder-rates.html

    • Bay Area Guy
      February 14, 2011 at 11:14 PM

      I bet nobody would’ve guessed that.

      You’re right, I wouldn’t have.

      I also thought that Japan and Korea of all places would be on that list.

      I would be interested in the methodology used by the researchers, because I have a hard time believing that Cameroon is less violent than Japan or Korea.

    • Robert Lindsay
      February 14, 2011 at 11:57 PM

      Most of those countries have a lot of Islam going on. Black Muslim Africa has low crime rates.

      • Bay Area Guy
        February 15, 2011 at 11:47 PM

        Speaking of Islam.

        I try not to bash Muslims too much (in spite of our longstanding rivalry and the problems they cause), because I hate to go along with neocon/Zionist propaganda, and I recognize that “certain” other groups are a bigger threat (like Zionists and neocons!).

        But seriously, when in Rome, do as fucking Romans do. Muslims need to have that saying hammered into their stubborn skulls.

        http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Corbella+change+tune+official+multiculturalism/4268151/story.html#ixzz1E3q5YhNp

        By the way Robert, your open topic page takes a really long time to load, at least for me.

        • Bay Area Guy
          February 15, 2011 at 11:53 PM

          Yeah, one of the op-ed writers for UCI’s paper is a Zionist turd, who spends most of his time talking about “Islamofascists” (or words to that effect), and how much of a threat Iran is.

          At the same time, I’m not a big fan of the MSU (Muslim Student Union) either.

          They tend to whitewash Islam’s history and present an overly glorified image of themselves.

          (and hey, can’t blame them, but I’m not buying it)

          Yup, got a good number of Jews and Muslims at UCI. It’s always amusing to watch them slug it out during the annual Israeli Apartheid Week.

          While I’m certainly anti-Israel, I’m not about to throw in my lot with the MSU. They tend to be leftist in general, and are friendly with groups like the Afrikan Student Union and other “multicultural” groups.

          They may be bashing Zionist Jews one day, but eventually they’ll make their way to white guys like me.

          The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.

  105. Wade in MO
    February 18, 2011 at 1:19 PM

    Why aren’t more rich people like this guy?

  107. Wade in MO
    February 18, 2011 at 7:38 PM

    Did you this in the wrong place?

  108. Wade in MO
    February 21, 2011 at 9:06 PM

    Can anyone tell what is going on here? It looks like some guys have been beaten severely. Some look injured. Some look dead. The title of the video translated into english, by yahoo, is “6 Martyrs of the Church in Egypt”.
    The description says “The six children who were martyred by Muslim fire coming from the Church of the Virgin Mary in Egypt on Christmas Day 2010.” It keeps saying that they are martyred, but one is clearly alive. I don’t remeber hearing anything about this on the news. God, these muslims are disgusting.

    • Wade in MO
      February 21, 2011 at 9:07 PM

      Sorry, forgot to add the link:

      • Wade in MO
        February 21, 2011 at 11:09 PM

        Thanks. I was surprised that YouTube let that video on. It seems to be beyond their normal violence content.

        It’s sad to see that that disgusting Arabian import is causing this much trouble. The god of the camelfuckers in the land of Ramses…sad.

        • johnUK
          February 24, 2011 at 9:39 PM

          @Wade in MO

          Yes and we gave them 2 states and a fake “Muslim genocide” to lord over us as the late Tom Lantos said “United States leads the way for the creation of a predominantly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe” which we have been rewarded with terrorism with Madrid and London train bombings, drug and sex trafficking.

          US is the most pro Muslim/jihadist country on the planet.

  109. nazbol
    February 24, 2011 at 7:18 PM

    Here’s an article by Joseph Goebbels in 1939. It sounds very leftist-socialist to me.

    http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb47.htm

  113. Shawn
    March 2, 2011 at 2:00 PM

    I believe Robert that you have claimed to have crushed over 100 different vaginas. I would therefore like to read what you have to say about “game.”

  115. tulio
    March 8, 2011 at 2:49 AM

    Robert, I’ve heard you mention a few things about blacks in the Arab world. Do you know how many Saudis are black? I always though Prince Bandar might be part black based on his nose, but now that I finally came across this pic of him without that head dress, I can see his afro and the guy could pass for black if he were born in America.

    http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/50689374.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=E41C9FE5C4AA0A1418C5490F5B75E9532676ED2737DAA62BC1C84E9ADF7B8BF5B01E70F2B3269972

  116. Wade in MO
    March 10, 2011 at 9:56 PM

    Robert, here’s a short, but interesting, linguistics video that I thought was kind of neat. It’s kind of a puff piece, but at least the music and scenery are good.

  117. Wade in MO
    March 11, 2011 at 5:43 PM

    I’ll make a 100$ bet with anyone that they hot topic at WN sites for the next month (at least) will be something like “Why can’t Haitians recover from eathquake as fast as Japanese people” or something like that.

    I’m not saying it;s an illegitimate question, I’m just saying they’ll have a field day with this.

    They did something similar a few years ago after the Chilean earthquake:

    http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2010/02/344-earthquake-in-chile.html

    • tulio
      March 21, 2011 at 3:59 AM

      Who gives a fuck what these misanthropes think. Some people are so consumed with race that they have to find a racial angle in EVERYTHING. Even a fucking earthquake. And I’m sick of people who talk about Haiti like it’s the prototype of a black country. There are plenty of other black countries in the Caribbean that are nowhere near as bad off as Haiti. Even most African countries fare much better than Haiti and this is all due to Haiti’s unique history. Haiti is a country few people know anything about but that everyone wants to vilify. Anthony Bordain, the host of the popular travel show No Reservations did a special on Haiti a few weeks ago and I think it was very well done in showing you a Haiti that is more complex than you think. And defied the stereotypes that Haitians are sitting around waiting for whites to come fix their country. He showed Haitians everywhere hauling the rubble out of their own streets and working hard to clean up the aftermath. Despite the poverty, people might be surprised how dignified the average Haitian is. This is something I’ve frequently heard. That even as poor as they are, they always make sure they have clean clothes and a presentable appearance to the best of their ability. They are not people that wallow in self-pity. In fact they hate having camera’s stuck in their face as they are keenly aware of how the media portrays them abroad and that people only think about them whenever there is a disaster. They are many actively working to fight corruption and make a better life in Haiti. There are Haitians working to get back the fortune that the Duvalier’s stole from the Haitian people. The show also interviewed Sean Penn who has been living down there for awhile for humanitarian reason. He said that he loves the Haitian people. That’s another thing I’ve heard frequently by people that have spent time in Haiti is that they end up really liking the Haitians themselves. I’m by no means an expert on Haiti, but the one hour program I saw which I highly recommend showed enough to make me aware that Haiti is more complex culture than we understand and we really only get a one-dimensional view of the Haitian people from the media.

      To many of these HBDer types, race is the strongest determining factor of whether a country is successful or not. I don’t believe that. I believe it’s corruption. Haiti is poor because it is one of the most corrupt nations on earth(and let’s not forget that the West frequently installs and backs corrupt leaders in many third world countries against the will of the people). Botswana is the least corrupt country in Africa(Nigeria is the most). It has a better corruption index rating than some S. European countries. It’s no coincidence that its economy has been growing at 9% a year since independence and that it is now a middle-income nation comparable to Mexico or Turkey. Of course the racists will only point to Haiti endlessly and ignore places like Botswana or Barbados. Chile is the least corrupt country in Latin America, and it’s no surprise that it has the most advanced economy. I was never really sure whether it’s affluence that makes people less corrupt or lack of corruption that makes people affluent, but I’m convinced at this point it’s the latter. A non-corrupt Nigeria would be much more affluent than a corrupt one. I have no doubts about that. That’s I hate about the HBDers. They are so fucking one-dimensional. EVERYTHING is genetic determinism. I’m not saying genes play no role in intelligence or that some groups may not have advantages over others like for example Asians in math or Jews in finances, but to act like 100% of a nation’s status comes from race is ridiculous. Yes, at a certain point, you will need brainpower and high human capital to have an advanced Western-style economy, but that’s only part of the picture. If Botswana can be brought up to a middle income nation by having strong anti-corruption policies, there is no reason this can’t be duplicated in the rest of Africa. A corruption-free Nigeria with it’s vast oil wealth should look similar to a Gulf oil state in standard of living.

      • tulio
        March 21, 2011 at 4:13 AM

        And one more thing. What is with white racist obsession with black people? If I were white, and a white nationalist/racist, I probably wouldn’t give a fuck about Haiti or Africa enough to go writing extensive articles about why I think they suck. They don’t do this for any other group. If there’s a disaster in a black country, all the HBD blogs and stormfront like sites have a feeding frenzy. But if some monsoon kills 10,000 people in Bangladesh tomorrow, you won’t hear them talking about how inferior Bangladeshis are or just consumed with hatred of people from Bangladesh. Afghanistan is poor as fuck but you don’t see WNs obsessed with hating Afghans, ditto for Cambodians, Bolivians, Mongolians, Laotians or any other dirt poor country. It’s only when that country is black that these fucking racist just seem to feast on it. I don’t know where this obsession emanates from and why they just love ruminating over anything that goes wrong in a black country when they don’t do that with any other country.

        • Wade in MO
          March 21, 2011 at 9:38 AM

          I think the problem here is that you underestimate how stupid the stormfront type crowd really is. A lot of them will hate on Southern India or Australian Aborigines because they think they are black despite the fact that, as groups, they’re probably further away genetically from blacks than white people are. Some even think tha Portugal is a dirt poor country because everyone there supposedly has massive amounts of black african ancestry (a bullshit claim in many ways). I think there reasons they talk about blacks so much is:
          1) they don’t know enough to attack anyone else.
          They have no idea what Bangladesh is.
          2) Liberals tend to fawn over blacks the most and it’s annoying.
          3)Americans are fetishists.

        • Bay Area Guy
          March 21, 2011 at 11:05 AM

          Afghanistan is poor as fuck but you don’t see WNs obsessed with hating Afghans, ditto for Cambodians, Bolivians, Mongolians, Laotians or any other dirt poor country. It’s only when that country is black that these fucking racist just seem to feast on it.

          I think there are reasons for this.

          For starters, as Wade pointed out, most WN’s don’t really know or give a crap about Cambodia or Afghanistan.

          Secondly, as Wade also pointed out, liberals tend to fawn over blacks the most, which is incredibly irritating, and inevitably generates backlash.

          But I think there’s an even bigger reason: NUMBERS.

          Think about it, there are very few Afghanis, Bangladeshis, or Cambodians in the U.S. They have no influence or power whatsoever. Ditto for American Indians. Thus, you don’t see too many white nationalists hating these groups. Why? Because they’re in no position to threaten them.

          Blacks (along with Jews and Hispanics), on the other hand, are. Therefore, it should be no surprise that those three groups are the most hated by WN’s.

          As you yourself once pointed out, Tulio, if blacks were only 4% of the national population, and comprised primarily of an African immigrant middle class, that, while relatively affluent, didn’t wield much power, I don’t think most WN’s, let alone most whites, would really care that much about them.

          Not because they would have all of a sudden developed saintly attitudes towards blacks, but because blacks would then be in no position to agitate or threaten them.

          I think this Korean American blogger explained it best.

          http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2008/01/america-least-racist-country-in-world.html

          Of course, I’m sure Tulio and other blacks would strongly disagree with his assertion that the U.S. is the least racist country in the world, but that’s besides the point, because his fundamental premise is correct.

          If blacks and Hispanics, combined, were only 8% of the population instead of almost 30, I guarantee that WN’s would not be focusing on them as much.

  118. Bay Area Guy
    March 15, 2011 at 1:22 AM

    LOL

  120. Wade in MO
    March 21, 2011 at 12:54 AM

    HELL HAS JUST FROZEN OVER!!!!

    Farrakhan talks for almost ten minutes and I couldn’t agree more with him. Maybe we put the wrong light skinned black guy in the White House.
    I especially like the part where he points out the hypocrisy in relation to Israel. I felt like I was alone in thinking that.

    • tulio
      March 21, 2011 at 3:10 AM

      Interesting clip. At first I thought, “Oh brother…Farrakhan. Do I really want to spend ten minutes watching this?” But by the end, I was captivated and wishing I could hear him talk more. The man has a rare gift for oratory, I’ve always though that even though I find a lot of NOI views to be quackery.

      I am nauseated at the sugar coating of Khadafi. I’m a bit taken aback when he refers to him as “brother”. If the US government treated black protesters the way Khadafi treats peaceful protesters what would he say about that?

      • Wade in MO
        March 21, 2011 at 9:26 AM

        “I am nauseated at the sugar coating of Khadafi”

        I agree, but is it anything unique? How often do we hear Israel lauded as the middle east’s only real democracy or the only modern coutry in the region. The same people won’t even admit that many of the cruel things they do to ohter people even happen.

        • johnUK
          March 21, 2011 at 5:23 PM

          @tulio

          If the US government treated black protesters the way Khadafi treats peaceful protesters what would he say about that?

          I am no fan of Gadaffi but the “rebels” are either Islamist groups or affiliated with Islamists who are supported by western intelligence especially MI6 who hired Anas al-Liby a Libyan Al Qaeda terrorist to carry out an assassination attempt against Gadaffi in 95 who MI6 protected when he was charged and listed on the FBI most wanted website in connection to the African Embassy bombings.

          http://www.counterpunch.org/johnstone03072011.html

          As for peaceful protestors he is facing an armed rebellion so it is not like the situation in Egypt, Bahrain or other countries.

          Good WebsterTarpley article.

          Anglo-American propaganda portrays Qaddafi as a kleptocrat. In reality, Libya is one of the most advanced developing countries, ranking 53 on the UN Human Development Index, making it the most developed society in Africa. Libya ranks ahead of Russia (65), Ukraine (69), Brazil (73), Venezuela (75) and Tunisia (81). The rate of incarceration is 61st in the world, below that of the Czech Republic, and far below that of the United States (1). Longevity has increased by 20 years under Qaddafi’s rule. Qaddafi, while suppressing political challenges, had shared the nation’s oil income better than the rest of OPEC.

          http://tarpley.net/2011/03/19/obamas-bay-of-pigs-in-libya/

        • johnUK
          March 21, 2011 at 5:51 PM

          Some scope of what is happening in Libya.

          US no fly zone and other operations in Bosnia.

          Starts from 4 minutes and 58 seconds if time index link does not work.

  121. tulio
    March 22, 2011 at 6:29 PM

    http://laist.com/2011/03/22/sex_offenders_banned_from_parks_in.php

    What is with society’s preoccupation with sex offenders? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t defend them or believe in going easy on them, but do we have laws banning people who committed murder from going to parks? Or people who have been in a gang? Or drug dealers? Why is it that there are websites that I can look up that will show me the location of every sex offender in a 50 mile radius, yet there is no map showing me where every gangbanger and murderer lives?

  122. Wade in MO
    March 22, 2011 at 7:51 PM

    Not really my thing but……to each his own I guess….weird…..

    http://pregnantmodel.blogspot.com/

  123. Wade in MO
    March 22, 2011 at 8:45 PM

    I knew the Russian government wasn’t exactly a nanny state, but Jesus Christ I thought they would care about people a little more than this.

    (It’s a long video (32 minutes) but worth watching or at least skimming.)

  124. FG
    March 28, 2011 at 11:55 AM

    I think an interesting recent development is the re-emergence in some quarters of 19th century nomenclatures for mixed people. “Mulatto” and even “quadroon” are making a comeback among young people of mixed parentage. I think this is a positive development as the racial vocabulary in the US is quite impoverished and in need of nuance.

    Quadroon is understood by many to describe both a blood quantum and a particular phenotype. That is, a quadroon is a person 3/4 European and 1/4 African by descent and someone who possesses the physical characteristics often accompanying this ancestry: tan skin, colored eyes, full lips, quasi-European facial features. Famous people with a quadroon phenotype are Jennifer Beals, Mariah Carey, Derek Jeter, etc. The Brazilian model Adriana Lima also seems to have the markers.

    Some multiracials (of both the Hispanic and Anglo varieties) are trying to stretch the “white” term so far as to make it essentially meaningless. I think “quadroon” can serve as a useful label for many lighter complexioned mixed people. It’s highly descriptive of a person’s ancestral, physical, and even social circumstances. This is the label I’ve settled on after my long identity crisis on Abagond’s site ;-)

    • tulio
      March 28, 2011 at 10:40 PM

      If I saw Jennifer Beals walking down the street, I wouldn’t instantly think she looks 1/4th black. She just looks like a white woman with a slight olive complexion. Maybe a Mediterranean of some sort. Some people assert that it takes many generations of mixing before someone no longer “looks black” as compared to Asians or Amerindians, but I’m not so sure that’s true. If you were average out the DNA of every white and black in America you’d have people that still look white though with a slight olive complexion.

      On census forms, people check themselves into categories, but I don’t think that tells the whole story. Someone may mark they are “black” like Obama when they are 50% Caucasian. Same for Hispanics. I saw a study of Brazilian DNA that showed that Brazil’s genetic composure is about 80% Caucasian. But if you ask people, they’ll come up with all these categories that don’t necessarily define how much of your blood is from where. I’d like to see a large sample or random Americans where we use DNA test rather than self-declaration to figure out how much Caucasian/Negroid/Mongoloid/Amerindian DNA is in the country. That will tell us much more than letting people decide their own race which is often wildy inaccurate, e.g. Barock Obama being “black” and people like Rick Sanchez calling himself “Hispanic” which most people assume to mean non-white in US society.

      • Wade in MO
        March 29, 2011 at 1:01 AM

        “If I saw Jennifer Beals walking down the street, I wouldn’t instantly think she looks 1/4th black”

        As you said, people don’t identify themselves by geneticcs, so that black ancestor may have been mixed to.

        Also, I don’t know about gene testing everyone. It just seems that everyone in american thinks that genes are an identity. I think that is garbage. People can have an identity that doesn’t reference anything biological. For example, one of the most radical Russian nationalists, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, is half jewish by ancestry (assuming his father was 100% of jewish ancestry, which is unlikely for most jews). The last independent Comanche cheif, Quanah Parker, was half white. National identity should not be based on anything genetic. I think part of america’s problem in this respect is that people don’t have real names to call themselves. This leads to an american calling a recent european immigrant a “fellow white” while calling the guy down the street, who is partially native american, mixed race and saying he’s part of a different people despite his greater similarity to himself than the immigrant. I think the who thing is silly. I can understand disapproving of miscegination based on an ethnic basis but not a racial one.

      • FG
        March 29, 2011 at 5:47 PM

        Yes, an guess the issue with people who are roughly 1/4 black and 3/4 white is that they are visualized as being white (ethnic) by people on the street and in routine social interaction but their claims to being white are highly tenuous because they have significant non-white ancestry. This contradiction adds a great deal of complexity to social situations.

      • FG
        March 29, 2011 at 6:05 PM

        As I’ve discussed elsewhere, there’s sort of a split among the biracials. Those that are closer to 50 percent black (like Obama) are almost always percieved as black in social situations so their identity is essentially pre-determined. The biracials who are 3/4 or more white and look more ambiguous have a less certain social status. Different people will intepret them different ways. The fact of being of mixed background factors more prominently in their day to day life. For this reason, they are more inclined to identify primarily as multiracial or mixed rather than black. Some now claim to be white. But this is the US and not Latin America. White identity probably won’t be generally accepted unless you look lilly white.

  127. Wade in MO
    March 29, 2011 at 5:27 PM

    Robert, I thought this was interesting given all of our conversations about ancient indo-europeans lately. Look at all of the swastikas in this video. The must be descendents of indians!!!!

  128. Bay Area Guy
    March 30, 2011 at 4:44 PM

    Good analysis, as usual, from The Political Cesspool.

    For starters, I sincerely pray that there’s not a long, drawn out war in Libya fought by the U.S. When are we going to learn that we’re not hall monitors?

    Second, as pointed out (nothing knew), the lamestream media is completely bankrupt.

    http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2011/03/30/winston-smith-two-of-a-kind/

  129. tulio
    March 31, 2011 at 7:24 PM

    More crazy Russian brawling. Anyone that thinks whites don’t have the propensity to be senselessly violent, thuggish cavemen should go live in Russia. Not even in the worse ghettos of America do you see hundreds of people just beating the shit out of people for the fun of it.

    • FG
      March 31, 2011 at 7:29 PM

      I guess the Russians are a major contradiction to the HBD argument that cold temperatures make people civilized and decent over time.

      • Wade in MO
        March 31, 2011 at 7:32 PM

        “I guess the Russians are a major contradiction to the HBD argument that cold temperatures make people civilized and decent over time.”

        So are central asians. I guess it’s a steppe thing.

    • Wade in MO
      March 31, 2011 at 7:38 PM

      This video may actually be Ukrainian. It has Kiev in the title.

    • ski
      April 3, 2011 at 6:18 PM

      This is an old tradition in Russia. I’ve heard that in some parts of Russia it’s common to have brawls like these to celebrate on New Years Day, oddly enough.

      In defense of them, this is organized brawling, so the people getting beat down know what they’re getting into. It’s like MMA, but the team sport version. It’s not exactly “senseless” violence, it’s planned out in advance and done for the thrill of it, like skydiving or bunji jumping. Russians like to do crazy stuff, but it’s not really impulsive or senseless.

      That being said Russians are arguably the most uncivilized Whites according to all sorts of possible objective criteria; and in many ways worse than a lot of nonwhites. Their biggest shame is the unbelievably high alcoholism rates. But I don’t think these brawls are so bad.

  130. tulio
    April 3, 2011 at 3:16 PM

    I think one night with Kenya Moore would cure Bay Area Guy of his WN.

    http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/377/kenyamoore.jpg

    • FG
      April 3, 2011 at 3:55 PM

      To tell you the truth, I’ve never found Bay Area Guy that extreme. He doesn’t often make claims of black inferiority or denigrate blacks’ intrinsic nature. He is certainly disturbed and frustrated over the behavior of some segments of the black populace, and he favors the interests of his race. But that probably describes most people. He comes off as an “angry young man” type to me.

      • tulio
        April 3, 2011 at 4:03 PM

        I’m just messing with him.

        • tulio
          April 3, 2011 at 4:05 PM

          Plus he is the only WN I’ve seen that has openly admitted having a thing for dark skin black women. At least in past posts anyway.

        • Gay State Girl
          April 3, 2011 at 4:22 PM

          Tulio
          Some African commentor on Jewamongyou said that Africans don’t like it when Black Americans give their kids African names like Kenya, Obama, Mandela, Aisha etc. They see those names as a tribal thing.

        • tulio
          April 3, 2011 at 4:32 PM

          I’ve never heard of that but I could see it.

      • Robert Lindsay
        April 3, 2011 at 7:11 PM

        I agree. It’s ridiculous that he is a WN. He’s the most mellow WN I’ve ever met. The overwhelming majority of them are flat out loons.

  131. Gay State Girl
    April 3, 2011 at 5:43 PM

    Hell truly has frozen over
    Former first lady criticizes proposed education budget cuts.
    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/7414727.html

  132. Gay State Girl
    April 3, 2011 at 5:54 PM

    I’m no fan of public schools, I actually support raising teacher’s salaries and benefits. It would make education a more attractive profession and thus attract a more talanted pool of teachers. Right now people go into education because of idealogical reasons rather than financial reasons. That alone is problematic. I found that these teachers generally fall into three categories; Those who genuinely care about their students and want to make a difference (whatever that means I know that’s cliche), those who are politically driven usually CRT types that are more concerned with teaching diversity or enhancing children’s “creativity” than actually teaching, than there are those (teachers, psychologists, guidance counselors) who are abusive and derive pleasure from others’ misfortune.

    OSN. I met a black guy who said he a serious problem with whites from upper class backgrounds teaching in minority schools because they don’t understand them. I felt like moling him.

  133. Gay State Girl
    April 3, 2011 at 6:18 PM

    I thought y’all’d enjoy this
    Seniors caught running drug cartel out of nursing home.
    http://thebuzznewspapers.com/

  134. Gay State Girl
    April 3, 2011 at 6:29 PM

    This is a perfect example of what I was talking about regarding the leftists/arabists exploiting racist actions against Arabs and new found solidarity in the west as a means of promoting arab culture/elevating arabs status
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/03/munther-fahmi-jerusalem-bookshop
    I find it hard to believe that in a country of over half a million native
    English speakers, many South African expats, there is only one “Decent English Bookstore.”

    • Davey
      April 6, 2011 at 2:44 AM

      Israel has a very anti-intellectual culture.

      • Gay State Girl
        April 6, 2011 at 4:30 AM

        I suppose you think the Palestinians are any better…

        • nazbol
          April 6, 2011 at 4:43 AM

          Are Palestinians basically Jews who converted to Islam and adopted Arabic, or are they descended from the Arabian conquerors from the peninsula?

        • Davey
          April 6, 2011 at 5:04 AM

          That’s a tribal reply.

        • Gay State Girl
          April 6, 2011 at 6:10 PM

          Davey say whatever you want about Israel but you can not claim it is anti intellectual. It is a bottom to top society. The little guy on the street tells the PM what to do. I recall LBJ asking Golda Meir how she would like to be the president of 250 million people. She replied something along the lines of “How would you like to be the PM of 3 million presidents.

        • Gay State Girl
          April 6, 2011 at 6:13 PM

          Nazbol
          Apparently they’re a fusion of many different groups. No race can remain pure.

          Davey
          Don’t believe the hype you hear about the Arab intelligensia. I am aware that there are some fine Arab American Entrepreneurs and Scientists but that should not be used to whitewash their culture.

        • Davey
          April 8, 2011 at 2:20 AM

          GSG, all of your replies have been tribal “they say, we say, blah blah”. Forget your tribe, and join the human race before making comments. it might make you more objective.

        • Davey
          April 8, 2011 at 2:24 AM

          “It is a bottom to top society”
          Amazing self-delusion. 25% of Israelis are non-Jews. How many presidents and prime ministers have been non-Jewish?

  135. Robert Lindsay
    April 3, 2011 at 7:13 PM

    Plus he is the only WN I’ve seen that has openly admitted having a thing for dark skin black women. At least in past posts anyway.

    It would be an awfully rare WN who would admit to a thing for a thing for Black women. They are united in the notion that Black women are hideous, and even those that maybe are not, they would never touch out of ideology.

  136. nazbol
    April 6, 2011 at 2:19 AM

    Can you believe this fucking shit? Even Asians seem to be getting into wiggerdom. Although niggers did make some good music back in the 70′s.

  137. Davey
    April 6, 2011 at 3:00 AM

    More Chinkouts in the news:
    http://shanghaiist.com/2011/04/05/shanghainese_girl_stabbed_to_death.php

    They can’t seem to stop killing girls who have rejected them for other, probably foreign, men. It sounds like something Huax or Hacienda would do, and approve of.

    After the massacre at Virginia Tech, it looks like they didn’t learn any lessons:
    http://shanghaiist.com/2009/01/23/chinese_grad_student_murdered_at_vi.php

    Zhu Haiyang had a Chinkout and decapitated someone who rejected him.

    What is it with the decapitation? It seems to be a traditional activity of the East Asian community:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Tim_McLean

  138. Dota-Player
    April 6, 2011 at 9:18 PM

    Nazbol: “”"Are Palestinians basically Jews who converted to Islam and adopted Arabic, or are they descended from the Arabian conquerors from the peninsula?”"”"”

    Very good question. It was traditionally believed that the Palestinians were descended from the Arab conquerors from the 7th century. However recent research by Proff Shlomo Sand of Tel Aviv University reveals that they were jews who converted to Islam. Sand argues that the Roman’s never really expelled the entire population as that was not their custom. Massacres yes, but not a mass expulsion. So what gives with this entire diaspora gig? That just seems a part of their tribal identity. Norman Cantor points out in “Sacred chain” that the Hebrews were basically indigenous Canaanites who created a new religion, and invented a myth of an exodus from the outside. That the book was largely ignored in Israel is an indicator of how ground breaking his research really was. Else the Jews would have resorted to their usual smear tactics to ridicule him out of the public view. The book was recently translated into English: “The invention of the Jewish people”

    GSG:

    “”Davey say whatever you want about Israel but you can not claim it is anti intellectual. It is a bottom to top society. The little guy on the street tells the PM what to do.”"”

    LMAO!

    Oh wait, you were serious, let me laugh harder

    I’m sure the Arab minority in the “Jewish” state would agree. You know, the ones who are given a couple of token parties in the Knesset but are routinely discriminated against, in terms of jobs, Uni quotas, Funding for villages ect… All documented, so don’t bother denying it.

    • Wade in MO
      April 6, 2011 at 11:12 PM

      “but are routinely discriminated against, in terms of jobs, Uni quotas, Funding for villages ect… All documented, so don’t bother denying it.”

      Not to mention access to water.

      http://www.ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/water.html

      • Gay State Girl
        April 7, 2011 at 7:13 AM

        Wade
        I was just saying that the leftwing media loves making minorities look good so they will find an example of discrimination against a group and then spin it in a way that makes them look good. In this case the Palestinian Solidarity Movement and the ultra leftist media (Counterpunch/Alternet/If AmericansKnew) like to claim that Mid East culture is an “intellectual” culture. Now I don’t doubt that there are many educated professionals among in the Arab/Muslim world or that Muslims/Arabs have been targets of unfair criticism in the past but the the Counterpunch/Alternet/IfAmericansKnew crowd seem to believe that the Arab World is this Mecca (yes pun intended) of Educated Professionals, Artists, Entrepreneurs etc and that is not the case. They also believe that any criticism of Palestinians should be considered invalid simply because they are a victim group. Can I get an amen, Wade.

    • Gay State Girl
      April 7, 2011 at 6:55 AM

      I wasn’t not referring to the Arab population. But Jewish Israelis are very opinionated and involved in the political process so the PM has to listen to whatever they ask. I am not a fan of Israel or Neoconservatism but I think that Arabs and Muslims are using their newly aquired status as a victim group to try and whitewash and promote their culture. The Guardian wrote about how the only decent English language bookstore is owned by an Israeli Arab. I have a hard time believing that a country with 5 Million English speakers and a Million of those native including the 250 thousand strong Ex Pat South African population, there is only one “decent” English language bookstore and its owned by an Israeli Arab. The Guardian is using an example prejudice against Israeli Arabs as a means of promoting Arab culture. Lindsay, Wade, Gay Area Guy, and Cyrus all agree with me.

      • Bay Area Guy
        April 7, 2011 at 6:08 PM

        Arabs and Muslims are using their newly aquired status as a victim group to try and whitewash and promote their culture.

        Exactly.

        The left can never criticize any officially recognized victim group, and as Jeffrey Blankfort and Stephen Sniegoski point out, this is the reason why the PSM refuses the tackle the Israel lobby issue.

        Since to criticize the Israel lobby and neocons is in many ways to criticize Jews, and Jews are an officially recognized victim group, the left goes along with the Chomsky theory, which basically asserts that Israel is a lapdog of the U.S. and that the Israel/Palestine conflict is all the U.S’s fault.

        To counterpunch’s credit, it’s one of the few leftist publications that takes on the Israel lobby issue. If Americans Knew has also published Jeffrey Blankfort’s articles on the Israel lobby, so they’re okay too, I guess.

        But back to the point/

        GSG, I think you’re right when you say that vicious criticism of Israel doesn’t have so much to do with anti-Semitism, but blame whitey. You frequently see Israel compared to white settlement in the U.S, apartheid South Africa, and Nazi Germany. I think the left focuses on Israel because it fits the narratives of evil whites oppressing saintly and helpless non-whites.

        If Jews had founded a state in Serbia and expelled the indigenous Serbs/proceeded to treat them like crap, I doubt most leftists would give a crap. Heck, I don’t recall too many leftists making noise/denouncing U.S. imperialism when we bombed the crap out of Serbia.

        But since Palestinians are “people of color,” and Israelis are primarily Ashkenazi Jews, it fits the traditional leftist narrative.

        • Robert Lindsay
          April 7, 2011 at 6:16 PM

          You make many excellent points in this comment.

          Heck, I don’t recall too many leftists making noise/denouncing U.S. imperialism when we bombed the crap out of Serbia.

          Actually, the Left was and is really against that intervention.

        • Bay Area Guy
          April 7, 2011 at 6:26 PM

          Actually, the Left was and is really against that intervention.

          I’m sure the left was opposed to it.

          To clarify, the point I was trying to make with that statement was that you just don’t hear too much about what we did in Serbia. I can’t recall too many times when leftists invoke the Serbian “intervention” to make a point. You also don’t hear nearly as much about the U.S. bombing the crap out of Germany during WWII as you do about Japan and the atom bomb.

          I guess the point I’m trying to make is that for the left, you’re only a true victim if you have brown skin/other non-white skin.

          If Palestinians were all blond-haired, blue-eyed, I doubt the left would really care about what’s happening to them right now. The Israel/Palestine conflict fits the leftist narrative of evil whites and noble non-whites.

        • Gay State Girl
          April 7, 2011 at 6:46 PM

          I actually prefer those who go after the lobby. At least their motives are pure. The PSM usually have alterior motives.

        • Bay Area Guy
          April 7, 2011 at 7:17 PM

          @ GSG

          Yeah, you’ve got to be suspicious about the motives of PSM types.

          Chomsky, in particular, is insincere. He’s opposed BDS (boycott, divestment, and sanctions) refuses to label Israel an apartheid state, and is well known for his Israel lobby denial. Chomksy is also a Zionist, and always has been.

          Jeffrey Blankfort explains it better than I could.

          http://www.leftcurve.org/LC29WebPages/Chomsky.html

          I think Chomsky’s in the movement because he wants to ultimately protect Israel/Jews and help Jews save face.

          You even have to wonder about Norman Finkelstein. While not quite as blind on the Israel lobby issue as Chomsky, he does tend to significantly downplay its influence, and goes along with the theory that the lobby and organized Jewry just goes along with the “elites” by lending a hand to U.S. strategy.

          He almost completely echoes Chomsky’s arguments regarding the U.S/Israel relationship. Ie. Israel does the bidding of the U.S, the U.S. supports Israel because it does its dirty work, organized Jewry is going along with the elites, etc.

          As James Petras pointed out during his debate with Norman Finkelstein, Finkelstein does have a blind spot when it comes to the Jewish lobby and its role in the U.S/Israel relationship.

          The way I see it, a good litmus test for whether or not PSM types are sincere or serious is their views on the Israel lobby. If they attack the lobby and demand a serious change in the U.S./Israel relationship (like Jeffrey Blankfort does), then they’re sincere.

          If they deny the role of the lobby, refuse to address it, or accuse you of anti-Semitism for discussing its role (like Stephen Zunes, a Chomsky disciple, does) then they’re not sincere, and are ultimately trying to cover up for the Jewish lobby, and care more about not provoking anti-Semitism than helping Palestinians.

          As for me, my anti-Israelism is very simple: They and their lobby fuck up this country’s foreign policy in the Middle East. I won’t lose sleep over what they do to Arabs, but as long as they continue to make us hated in the Arab world and make us look weak by humiliating American elected officials, I will oppose them.

        • Uncle Milton
          April 7, 2011 at 8:02 PM

          To BAG:

          But since Palestinians are “people of color,” and Israelis are primarily Ashkenazi Jews, it fits the traditional leftist narrative.

          BAG, in Israel Jews of Middle Eastern descent now outnumber Ashkenazi Jews… aside from that I agree with your statement.

        • Bay Area Guy
          April 7, 2011 at 8:29 PM

          @ Uncle Milton

          Thanks for the correction!

          Still, I think my point stands. At least in the eyes of the PSM and Israel critics, Ashkenazi Jews are primarily portrayed as the evil ones, while Middle Eastern Jews get more of a pass.

          Israel is often depicted as a European settler state where a bunch of Ashkenazi interlopers acted like typical European colonists.

          Regardless of the actual demographics of Israel’s Jewry, it is portrayed as an Ashkenazi (ie. white) supremacist state, akin to apartheid South Africa or Nazi Germany.

          In that sense, in the eyes of the left, Israel fits their narrative.

      • Dota-Player
        April 7, 2011 at 8:48 PM

        “I wasn’t not referring to the Arab population”

        Of course you weren’t. That you could so casually dismiss the aspirations of 20% of Israel’s population is a testament to what a joke of a democracy they have over there.

        “”but I think that Arabs and Muslims are using their newly aquired status as a victim group to try and whitewash and promote their culture. “”

        Rubbish. They aren’t trying to promote their culture, but merely win sympathy for their cause. I’ve lived in Dubai for 15 years and know how they think.

        Someone once said that the only difference between the left and the right in Israel is that the right wants to put the Palestinians on a bus, the left wants to make sure those buses are air conditioned. It’s the same in the US, unfortunately most Americans cannot see the artificial divide between left and right politics in the US. The left may pay lip service to the arabs, however some of the largest arms shipments have been made during democrat governments, such as Clinton’s. America is a plutocracy and both the left and right serve the same elites but abide by different scripts. It’s foolish to waste time criticizing those scripts.

        • nazbol
          April 7, 2011 at 9:00 PM

          America is a plutocracy of a specific ethnic character, a particularly rancid tribe from the Eastern Mediterranean that doesn’t eat pork.

  139. Gay State Girl
    April 7, 2011 at 9:08 PM

    Dota Player
    I have stated repeatedly that I am not a fan of Israel or Neoconservatism. I spend a lot of time on insane pro Palestinian sites so my posts here are usually a counter response to them. If I had spent all day reading Neocon sites, my posts would probably reflect my disgust for Neocondom (Richard Silverstein coined that phrase. Best thing he’s ever done.) It is true that Arabs and Muslims in Europe and North America are using new found solidarity for the Palestinians and other Arabs/Muslims as a means of whitewashing and promoting their culture. I haven’t had much experience with those in the middle east, but the ones here who are vocal about it, tend to be very in your face and demand you accomodate them. Maybe theones more willing to adapt are less vocal about it. I am speaking strictly from my experience. If you have an experience that counters mine, I’d love to hear about it.

  140. Dota-Player
    April 7, 2011 at 9:30 PM

    “” a particularly rancid tribe from the Eastern Mediterranean that doesn’t eat pork.”"”

    Not even; they are khazars

    • Gay State Girl
      April 7, 2011 at 9:33 PM

      Dota Player
      Our language Yiddish is of Germano-Slavic origin, indicating that the Ashkenazi presence came from the West not the East.

      • Dota-Player
        April 7, 2011 at 9:59 PM

        My mistake there, I misread eastern Mediterranean for Middle Eastern. I think I need some sleep -_-

        • Gay State Girl
          April 7, 2011 at 10:12 PM

          Khazaria bordered the Black Sea not the Mediterranean.

        • Wade in MO
          April 7, 2011 at 10:36 PM

          “Khazaria bordered the Black Sea not the Mediterranean.”

          Am I the only one who thinks that it’s interesting that Khazaria lies right on top of one of the most popular locations for the IE urheimat?

          See:
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IE_expansion.png

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Khazaria_map_from_600_till_850.jpg

          Odd. Maybe this position is a good area to conquer from.

        • nazbol
          April 8, 2011 at 1:25 AM

          @Wade
          What do you think of the Khazar theory? Most Ashkenazis don’t look very much like Turkic Central Asians from what I’ve noticed.

        • Wade in MO
          April 8, 2011 at 11:24 AM

          “@Wade
          What do you think of the Khazar theory?”

          I’d be willing to bet that there is some small bit of truth in it, but I do not believe that the jews came entirely form there. Also, One has to wonder what portion of Khazar society was converted. Was it just the elite, or was it the whole society?

          Iread this article a few years ago in a magazine, but can’t find the original. This blog has a copy, but doesn’t say the source. I’m thinking it was Discover or Archaeology magazine:

          http://dianarn.wordpress.com/2008/09/21/discovery-of-lost-capital-unearths-more-about-ashkenazi-jews/
          “The Khazars’ ruling dynasty and nobility converted to Judaism sometime in the 8th or 9th centuries. Vasilyev said the limited number of Jewish religious artifacts such as mezuzas and Stars of David found at other Khazar sites prove that ordinary Khazars preferred traditional beliefs such as shamanism, or newly introduced religions including Islam.

          Yevgeny Satanovsky, director of the Middle Eastern Institute in Moscow, said he believes the Khazar elite chose Judaism out of political expediency — to remain independent of neighboring Muslim and Christian states. “They embraced Judaism because they wanted to remain neutral, like Switzerland these days,” he said.”

          I’m thinking that some Khazars probably interbred with the jewish colonist population coming into the germanic/slavic lands from Palestine. They probably also bred with some locals.

          “Most Ashkenazis don’t look very much like Turkic Central Asians from what I’ve noticed.”

          With the exception of a couple of small nations in eastern Russia (Yakuts, etc) all turkic speaking areas have signifigant Caucasoid admixture. There are a variety of turkic phenotypes.

          The other problem with this statement is that you are assuming that Khazaria was an ethnically homogenous state. Most of these turkic (or central asian in general) states throughout history have been multiethnic empires where the rulers are concerned with maintaining trade routes more than anything else. The Khazar elite ruled over many people who did not share the same ethic backround as themselves. If they heavily interbred, it could cause them to look quite different. Just compare the looks of the Anatolian Turks to the Yakuts.

          Anatolian Turks:
          http://parterre.com/2008/05/10/leyla-gencer-1928-2008/

          Yakuts:
          http://altaic-wiki.wikispaces.com/Yakut+Sakha

          Quite a variance in phenotypes.

          Here is a discussion of the matter of turkic appearance at a forum where some turks post:
          http://steppes.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=board03&thread=82&page=2

          It would be hard to make a judgement based on appearance in this case.

        • Gay State Girl
          April 8, 2011 at 1:16 PM

          Wade
          Some commenter on Godlikeproductions said that China built the great wall to shield them from the Khazars :)

  141. Wade in MO
    April 7, 2011 at 10:26 PM

    Some neat articles related to Central Asia/Chinese linguistics/archaelogy.

    “WESTERN CULTURAL INNOVATIONS IN CHINA, 1200 B.C.”
    http://www.sino-platonic.org/complete/spp011_shang_china.pdf

    “Indo-European Vocabulary in Old Chinese
    A New Thesis on the Emergence of Chinese Language
    and Civilization in the Late Neolithic Age
    by
    Tsung-tung Chang”
    http://www.sino-platonic.org/complete/spp007_old_chinese.pdf
    (Long paper, very interesting. Don’t understand some technical linguistic items….yet)

    This site (http://www.sino-platonic.org) has a large assortment of free papers dealing with eurasian culture, history, and linguistics. It is a great site.

    • Robert Lindsay
      April 8, 2011 at 2:07 AM

      That site is run by Victor Mair. He is an acquaintance of mine. I talk to him from time to time.

      • Wade in MO
        April 8, 2011 at 10:41 AM

        Tell him his site is cool. It’s hard to find academic papers (even old ones) on interesting topics for free. I was looking into seeing if I can subscribe to Jstor, but I don’t know the cost. Do you know any other place to find scholarly papers online for free?

        • Robert Lindsay
          April 8, 2011 at 11:03 AM

          JSTOR is free through your local library.

        • Gay State Girl
          April 8, 2011 at 1:11 PM

          Robert Lindsay
          That is not true. Your options are severely limited if you look through your local library. I tried to access JSTOR and Lexus Nexus for my Latinos in America class (don’t ask it was a requirement) and couldn’t.

  143. Robert Lindsay
    April 8, 2011 at 2:09 AM

    3% of Askhk Jews are Khazars. 13% of Ashk Jews have non-trivial amounts of Khazarian blood. However, I also think that Jews came from the Middle East, contrary to Dota-Player.

  144. nazbol
    April 8, 2011 at 11:16 AM

    I’ve always found Stalin to be an enigmatic figure. In the 1930s, many National Socialists and other right-wingers said he was a tool of the Jews,
    yet today, Jews hate Stalin and most Stalin fans are anti-Jewish Russian nationalists. WHat’s the real deal on Uncle Joe?

    • Wade in MO
      April 8, 2011 at 11:28 AM

      Interesting article:

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3072167/Jewish-city-feared-by-Stalin-is-rediscovered.html

      “It was mentioned in medieval travellers’ accounts but Soviet dictator Josef Stalin banned any research into the city and the Khazars, fearing it would prove Russia was descended from a Jewish state……

      The study of the Khazar empire was discouraged in the Soviet Union. Stalin detested the idea that a Jewish empire had come before Russia’s own. He ordered references to Khazar history removed from textbooks because they “disproved his theory of Russian statehood,” Mr Satanovsky added.”

      • nazbol
        April 8, 2011 at 11:35 AM

        I’ve seen that article before. What confuses me is that I thought the USSR was relatively Jew-free after Stalin kicked out Trotsky and the “Left Opposition” bastards were all shot. But recently, Kevin MacDonald, using Solzhenitysn’s work, wrote several articles on Occidental Observer saying that even after Trotsky was kicked out in 1929, the USSR still had a heavily Jew elite throughout the 30′s with the gentile Slavic population getting screwed over. And of course, Hitler, for some reason, decided to change his mind about the Non-Aggression Pact in 1941. What do you make of this?

        • Reality Check
          April 8, 2011 at 12:52 PM

          That you’re obsessed with the Jews.

        • nazbol
          April 8, 2011 at 12:59 PM

          You’re one snarky little bitch aren’t ya? If you haven’t noticed cunt, I wasn’t addressing you.

        • Gay State Girl
          April 8, 2011 at 1:08 PM

          Nazbol
          That’s the best you can do? As Koreans tend to have IQ’s in the 120-140 range, I would have expected better from you. Maybe Asians aren’t so smart after all…

        • johnUK
          April 8, 2011 at 1:11 PM

          @Wade in MO

          SATANovsky LOL! That’s even better than Chertoff(son of the devil).

          “It was mentioned in medieval travellers’ accounts but Soviet dictator Josef Stalin banned any research into the city and the Khazars, fearing it would prove Russia was descended from a Jewish state……

          It is funny how they always have to re-enforce Stalin’s alleged “anti-Semitism” which of course did not exist.

          One of the first published works of NED funded Memorial that does the phoney Stalin research in Russia whose “research” is usually cited by foreign University professors and historians was a pamphlet outlining Stalin’s “anti-Semitism”.

          I doubt Mr Satanovsky who is the president of the Russian Jewish Congress has any actually proof to back up this allegation.

          @nazbol

          The real deal is that most of what we know about Stalin is BS and makes little to no sense

          His efforts to introduce a centralised government, legal system and collectivisation policy was introduced to eliminate abuses and death at that still from large outbreaks of disease and famine which was the main cause of death until after the successful collectivisation policy introduced during the 30’s.

        • nazbol
          April 8, 2011 at 1:15 PM

          What’s the point of giving a “witty” response to an annoying cunt online? I’m not sure I’m really Korean (as in genetically), I always get mistaken for something else, usually northern Chinese (by other Koreans).

        • Gay State Girl
          April 8, 2011 at 1:21 PM

          I get annoyed when Professional Jews claim that the USSR was antisemitic. The term “antisemitism” is getting more and more hollow.

        • Reality Check
          April 8, 2011 at 1:31 PM

          Your whole worldview is filtered through a Jew prism. You can’t decide how you feel about anyone or anything until you know where they stand on the JQ. Have you noticed what that makes you?

        • Wade in MO
          April 8, 2011 at 1:33 PM

          “It is funny how they always have to re-enforce Stalin’s alleged “anti-Semitism” which of course did not exist.”

          Yes, I know much of what we hear about about the Soviet Union (and alomost everywhere else) is a lie, but I do find this article to be feasible. One of my Russian hisotry teachers was a well known russian medievalist who used to tell us about the problems that the Soviet Union would use to cause with russian historiography. One of the thinks they really cracked down on was wht is know as the ‘Norman Theory’. The Norman Theory is the idea, based on the Primary Chronicle, that Russia’s first state, the Kievan Rus’, was founded by scandinavians at the request of the native slavic and finnic populaces. People within the SU who held to this theory would not advance in their careers. Another thing was the name of the ancient state: the Kievan Rus’. During the soviet union everyone was required to call it Kievan Russia. It was part of the soviet propoganda of the union of east slavic peoples. Some Russian nationalist even today will not acknowledge that Ukraine is a seperate nation or that a distinct Ukrainian language even exists. The tsars weren’t much better. They actually banned writing in ukrainina so Ukrainian writiers like Nikolai gogol wrote in Russian. I highly doubt the Khazars would have been popular with soviet higher ups if they didn’t even like the Norman Theory, especially after the Six Days War, but this is just my conjecture.

        • Gay State Girl
          April 8, 2011 at 2:15 PM

          Reality Check
          Lindsay has always said that Antisemites are very Judeocentric. Super Jews, Philosemeites and Antisemites essentially believe the same thing; that jews are central to humanity.

        • Reality Check
          April 8, 2011 at 4:30 PM

          Nazzie,

          What’s the point of giving a “witty” response to an annoying cunt online?

          Well, if you at least try to give it your best shot, I’ll try to hook you up with this great non-cunty broad that I happen to know. She’s of Teutonic-Slavic-Korean (possibly Northern Chinese, but definitely nary a drop of Anglo) stock, and her family worked for Imperial Nippon during the Third Reich. She currently works for the A3P. (Of course, that’s just her cover; she actually has nothing but contempt for Americunts.) She’s very kike-wise. I’m only her token kike frenemy. She’d be just perfect for you!!!

          P.S. Her Asian element is paternal, so it’s not like there are any disloyal whores in her family tree.

  145. Gay State Girl
    April 8, 2011 at 3:10 PM

    @Gay Area Guy
    Bingo
    “In a strange way, I think the
    I-P issue brings this conflict to the surface because in some profound way it really is about a failure of the Jews of Judaism to control its worst impulses. I think righteous Jews like Jerry Slater, like Phil and others want desperately to solve the I-P issue, want it to go away so Jews can go back to their true destiny of being a light unto the world.”

    Phil Weiss is still very much obsessed with his Jewishness no matter how open minded he claims to be. Many of his pieces from the Observer from the 1990′s and early 2000′s are very Judeocentric. Back then most Americans were apathetic about Jews and nobody cared about his articles but with the Iraq war and its aftermath, he now has an audience. He doesn’t care WHAT people say about Jews, he just loves hearing about them.

  146. Gay State Girl
    April 8, 2011 at 3:25 PM

    From an Israeli commenter Danaa
    “(there you have it in a nut-shell, I managed to turn supreme privilege into a heart-tugging call for sympathy – not bad, eh?).”

    I would hardly call squatting in bomb shelters and mandatory military service “supreme privelege.”
    Say whatever you want about “American Jewish Privelege” (even though you know absolutely nothing about individual jews and continue to treat us as if we’re one collective entity) but the same does not hold true for Israelis.

    I know why I care so much about what Phil and his cronies think especially as I am against the Israeli lobby and apathetic on Israel. I suppose it’s because I find Phil to be agenda driven and egotistical. I don’t like the idea that he has a “plan” for young jews such as myself. I feel for him the same sort of teenage rebellion I might feel against a parent. I still have a rebellious teenager in me, having matured too fast more my own good yet never fully coming of age. I’ve come to terms with my own family, as they have with me but I still have much of that rebellious spirit in my system. Phil has almost become like my surrogate father and now, when I think of the future and the life I want to lead, I can’t decide who I want to piss off more; him or my dad :)

  148. LaFleur
    April 9, 2011 at 9:46 AM

    The funniest soundboard prank call I’ve ever heard:

    They prank a black guy with a soundboard consisting of recordings of his own voice collected in previous prank calls. He initially recognizes his own voice, but gets enraged and fights with himself for a full five minutes.

    *wipes away tears of laughter*

  149. Gay State Girl
    April 9, 2011 at 4:38 PM

    Muammar Ghaddafi is a self hating jew!
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/142593

  150. Bay Area Guy
    April 10, 2011 at 1:29 AM

    Two excellent articles by Pat Buchanan.

    http://www.vdare.com/buchanan/110404_who_we_fighting.htm
    http://www.vdare.com/buchanan/110407_tribal.htm

    Yeah, I think this whole multicultural/globalist/liberal-neocon interventionist BS has run its course.

    And fuck all this “spreading democracy and freedom crap.” All we do is bomb/maim/kill people, and then allow them to express their collective and justifiable resentment through the democratic process.

    Should’ve left the Taliban, Saddam, and Gaddafi alone.

    It’s none of our business. Now we just have more galvanized, outraged, and empowered enemies.

    • nazbol
      April 10, 2011 at 1:43 AM

      Actually America rejects the “democratic process” if it allows Hamas in Gaza etc. Demcoracy is simply a process, not an ideology or an principal to base anything on. By the way, do you smoke?