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    • Fascinating video. It is amazing how thoroughly “Russianized” the Kazakhs became. Not to mention what Kazakhstan is becoming.

      • Wade in MO

        “It is amazing how thoroughly “Russianized” the Kazakhs became. ”

        Yeah. I don’t think Tesak would be happy with his new “brothers”. Also, we must account for some of this similarity by the fact that there are turkic and iranian elements in russian culture as well. And, I think the correct term is “Russified”.

        “Not to mention what Kazakhstan is becoming.”

        Not quite sure what you mean here. Are you refering to strong russian influence in the country?

        • Not quite sure what you mean here. Are you refering to strong russian influence in the country?</b?

          Nah, just how it is being transformed into yet another “oil sheikdom” of sorts. Sort of like what is found on the Arabian Peninsula. As to their degree of being “Russified,” I do not think the Russian influence will ever go away.

          Weird place…

        • Wade in MO

          “Nah, just how it is being transformed into yet another “oil sheikdom” of sorts”

          Do you think that could succeed with such a large ethnically russian and orthodox minority in the country? (Assuming by “sheikdon” you meant something islamic) Do you think something will happen in Turkmenistein with it’s natural gas? Apparently turkic people like strong leaders. Will there be another Turkmenbasy type? Do you think Iran will just have storng influence there or will Iran “eat it”? It would really be something if Iran had strong influence in Azerbaijan and Turkmenistein on top of it’s own large energy reserves. I think I remember reading that Tajikistan had large uranium deposits. With all those energy resouces and it’s central location it could really be a major player in world affairs. Iran and Turkey are located just right so that as long as they’re not totally impotent, they can have a large effect on the world. I don’t know if there’s anyplace better located than Iran with Turkey as number 2 best located as far as influence goes.

        • Shit Wade, you ask a tall order of questions. :)

          By “sheikdom,” I wasn’t implying anything Islamic reality. Only yet another artificially created oil/gas state driven state.

          How Iran will play into the future of the Caucasus and Central Asian states, I can’t be sure. I believe Iran’s influence and focus in the Arab Middle East will wane, and it’s focus be more on the Caucasus and Central Asia, in the long run. It is a growing 800 pound gorilla after all, even if the U.S refuses to admit it. It will be a tug of war between Russia, China, a rapidly waning U.S, and Iran, in Central Asia. In the Caucasus, it will be between Russia, Iran, Turkey/U.S, with perhaps a future break in Turkish U.S bilateral cooperation.

          I actually do not see how nations such as Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan could not exist within the Iranian sphere of influence.

          Turkey will probably also gain influence in the Eastern Mediterranean Arab countries, and perhaps the Arab World, as U.S influence wanes. This will be in direct competition with European countries like France, which is rather Ironic.

          On a side note, it is interesting to see how rapidly Iran is changing, and how it is not reported at all in the western press.

          http://www.uskowioniran.com/2011/04/majlis-asks-ahmadinejad-to-end-boycott.html

          The Mullahs and their fixation on the Arab World is already waning, and becoming nuance, while a move towards a more nationalistic view and focus is already becoming more evident.

        • @Wade:

          Here you go.

          Iran should rethink Central Asia policy

          http://www.presstv.ir/detail/176884.html

          PressTV generally reflects the Iranian government’s line…At least certain factions of it. :)

        • Wade in MO

          ” I believe Iran’s influence and focus in the Arab Middle East will wane, and it’s focus be more on the Caucasus and Central Asia, in the long run”

          I can see that, for the most part. I don’t see how Iran couldn’t not at least try to influence Iraq, even if there is resistance. The border is too long to ignore it and the ethno-religoius situation in Iraq is very different than the rest of the middle east. It seems that the kurds will be in the middle of all of this. Of course Turkey will seek influence in Iraq because of the kurdish problem and they will probably be pretty effective since they control the head waters of it’s biggest rivers. I also can’t see Iran not trying to have some influence over the tip of the Arabian peninsula that portrudes into the strait of Hormuz. However, I think another major naval power would probably counteract such influence, if Saudi Arabia couldn’t or didn’t want to. I have heard the Saudis have been spending more militarily in the past few years.

          “Turkey will probably also gain influence in the Eastern Mediterranean Arab countries, and perhaps the Arab World, as U.S influence wanes.”

          I wonder how Turkey will do in the Balkans. With the Albanian theft of Kosovo apparently going well and the severe decline in population for countries like Bulgaria and Serbia I can’t see turkish influence not growing. Of course the Russian turkish competition would be at work here. I think the US and Germany would be involved to a degree too. Russia and Turkey would be competing in the Caucasus as well. The real interesting question is Ukraine and especially Crimea. There is still a tatar population in Crimea, but it is largely pro-Ukraine, not pro-turkey and definitely not pro-Russia. I think if the Russians had there way, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, and the Baltics would not exist as independent entities. (Maybe Belarus, but it would be pretty buddy buddy with Russia anyways) If Turkey takes the eastern med arab states under its wing, the future of Cyprus will be interesting to watch too. Of course Kikestan will be involved in all of this somehow.

          “It will be a tug of war between Russia, China, … and Iran, in Central Asia”

          The three body problem…I better learn some Chaos theory in order to understand this all. The way one region spills into another makes me fell like we’re talking about Europe leading up to WWI.

          “a rapidly waning U.S”

          *fingers crossed*

        • Reality Check

          Wade,

          Of course Kikestan will be involved in all of this somehow.

          If you wanna play futurist, you’re gonna have to be a bit more specific than that.

        • @Wade:

          Well, you are right about Iran. Every time Persia had and empire, it took Mesopotamia under it’s fold. Every single time, that place became a battle ground amongst outsiders. Be it Greeks and Persians, Romans and Persians, Ottoman’s and Persians, Ottomans’ and the British, and now…Well, the U.S was just dumbfuck enough to go in there, spend a trillion or more dollars, and had the place right over to Tehran.

          As for Turkey, I can’t imagine it making much gains in Eastern Europe. The Turks are hated in Eastern Europe, with a capital “H.” Hell, most of Europe strongly dislikes them. It is just that Turkey is so integrated into Europe’s economic system.

          As for Israel? Beats me. They are scrambling for a new “uncle sugar” I hear, since they have long since predicted an eventual end to U.S hegemony.

        • Wade in MO

          “As for Turkey, I can’t imagine it making much gains in Eastern Europe. The Turks are hated in Eastern Europe, with a capital “H.” Hell, most of Europe strongly dislikes them. It is just that Turkey is so integrated into Europe’s economic system.”

          Albania, Bosnia, and Macedonia sure don’t hate them and they have a colony on Cyprus. The turks have had powerful friends with influence in Eastern Europe in the past. Could they have won the
          Crimean war without Britain and France? Just because people don’t like you doesn’t mean they won’t side with you willingly or can’t be coopted to. The fact is that Bulgaria is projected to lose over a 1/3 of it’s populace while the turks, gypsie, and pomaks(muslim Bulgarians) in Bulgaria reproduce faster. Meaning ethnic bulgarian christians will drastically decline as a percentage of the populace. Of course, they’re at Turkey’s doorstep and Greece and Serbia have a traditional alliance against them. Sometime the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Of course the Germans have sided with the turks (and Albanians) in the past.

        • Wade in MO

          “If you wanna play futurist, you’re gonna have to be a bit more specific than that.”

          Well,we can’t know everything. The fact is is that there isn’t much hisotrical precedent for anything involving Israel except that a whole shit load of people don’t like them and with a possible split with Turkey and a declining US it is unclear who they will latch onto in a parasitic fashion. It looks like SOME european nationalists are becoming somewhat warmer towards zionism and they are begining to surge in popularity. Maybe the jews will do what they can to “ride the wave”. that seems doubtfull though. Of course the jews have sold some weapons to China in the past, but I don’t think China will be a US type sugar daddy for Israel. Aligning with India and a waning US seems like it could be a possible strategy. Hindu nationalists also hate muslims and indian pubdits are becoming more influential in US politics.

          We can be sure of one thing no matter what happens: the jews will do everything they can to harm other groups of people and when those people retaliate they jews will claim to be the victims.

  1. Wade in MO

    I can relate to this story. I almost joined myself last summer. It’s still a possibility after I finish what I’m currently doing.

    http://american3p.org/uncategorized/tough-job-market-college-grads-enlist-in-military/

    • Gay State Girl

      Now I know what this recession is all about… The Military had a very low recruitment due to Iraq II so they decided to plunge the world into a depression to drive up military recruitment.

    • ski

      Join the Air Force or Navy if you do.

      • Wade in MO

        That’s what I was looking into before, but I probably won’t. I don’t like US foreign policy and the wars we’re involved in. I really don’t want to be a part of that, but I have nothing against the military as a thing in itself. It’s like a gun in that what really matters is who is directing it, and all our recent presidents have been horrible war mongers(including the one who decided to “assist” in Libya).

        • Gay State Girl

          Wade
          Did you hear about this trivial detail about Muammar Ghaddafi?
          http://israelinsider.net/profiles/blogs/with-a-jewish-grandma-and-a

        • Wade in MO

          I really don’t care. As I;ve said before, being jewish or Israeli doesn’t make you automatically bad. Hell, in many ways I probably like the jews in Israel more than many in the US. However, the reality is that many jews choose to do and support awful things. What makes it worse is that it’s not some genetic or any other predetermined matter, it’s a matter of personal choice.

          As far as Ghaddafi is concerned, he may have done some bad things, but he has also done some good things as well. There are other leaders who deserve to get axed more than him.

  2. Shawn

    Women are at the peak of their beauty around age 20, with their prime years being age 15-25; however, they are at their most DESIRABLE age much younger.

    If there were not laws against it in the West, guys would try to date 13 year old girls. Think of it this way, from an evolutionary standpoint: A woman who is at her physical peak at age 20 has 20 years left of fertility. A 13 year old girl has 27.

    The above being said, I think states are on the right track with an age of consent at age 16, as it is in most states.

  3. Shawn

    Can Islamic countries be correctly referred to as countries that have been subject to the “curse of Islam?” Seems reasonable to me.

  4. Wade in MO

    Teenapers attack the U City/St. Louis Loop

    http://www.ksdk.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=899347073001&odyssey=mod|tvideo|umbrella#/Loop+Violence/899347073001

    Don’t worry Robert, I’m sure that they’re “progressive”….progressively ruining what is left of St. Louis.

  5. Gay State Girl

    “On February 22, 2011 the U.S. Supreme Court shielded drug companies from all liability for harm caused by vaccines mandated by government when companies could have made a safer vaccine.”
    http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/03/no-pharma-liability-no-vaccine-mandates.html

  6. Wade in MO

    Hey Robert, is Bigfoot progressive?

    • Bigfoot is cool because he’s not a human even though he looks like one. He doesn’t fuck up a single thing. One Bigfoot has more value, decency and inherent goodness than 200 White Americans.

      Further, Bigfoot is not depressing. I can read Bigfoot and night and stay enchanted. As soon as I start reading about US politics, I mean US White politics, I get suicidal again.

      Bigfoot is life. White Americans are death.

      • Dota-Player

        umm, why don’t you just play world of warcraft?
        :D

      • Matt

        I don’t know about the white self hatred part, but I’m with you on U.S. politics. For the first time in a long time, I listened to a political podcast on my morning walk, and I realized it was undoing all the health benefits of the exercise. When I look closely at the state of the U.S., I can feel the cancer cells boring through my innards.

        • I don’t hate Whites. I hate US Whites. We are no good. Seriously. Very, very, very, very, very much no good people.

        • Matt

          It certainly looks that way, I admit.

        • nazbol

          You guys are nuts. America is just fine!! Just shut up and enjoy “Poker Face” by Lady Gaga and all your worries will go away!

        • johnUK

          @Robert Lindsay

          What’s the difference between US whites and European ones?

        • Gay State Girl

          Nazbol
          Most Americans ignore mainstream pop culture. People are exposed to much more in this era and can discover their niche through advanced technology. I believe the US is experiencing a cultural renewal which will hurt the mainstream entertainment industry.

          Chinese on tthe other hand simply copy Western culture and master it to perfection but create very little of their own culture.

        • @Robert:

          I don’t hate Whites. I hate US Whites. We are no good. Seriously. Very, very, very, very, very much no good people.

          Agreed. 100%.

          @JohnUK:

          What’s the difference between US whites and European ones?

          They might as well be from different planets in their basic outlook, mentality and worldview.

        • johnUK

          @Cyrus

          “They might as well be from different planets in their basic outlook, mentality and worldview.”

          No difference what so ever between European and US whites.

          What exactly is the US whites different outlook, mentality and worldview compared to Europe?

        • @JohnUK:

          No difference what so ever between British and US whites.

          There, I fixed it for you.

          What exactly is the US whites different outlook, mentality and worldview compared to Europe?

          Actually come to the United States some day. It’ll be fucking obvious the second your ass steps off the plane. :D

  7. Gay State Girl

    Why did the gay man get fired from the sperm bank?
    He was caught drinking on the job.

    • Wade in MO

      What do you do if your wife asks you to fix her watch?

      Tell her there’s a fucking clock on the stove.
      ————————————————————
      Why did god invent women?

      He couldn’t find sheep who’d do windows.
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      What did Helen Keller say when she passed the fish market?

      “Hello ladies.”
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      What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?

      Nothing. You’ve already told her twice.

      • Bay Area Guy

        How do you make a gay barstool?

        -Turn it upside down.

        • Wade in MO

          A joke from the 1950s:

          Pat Boone sang a song and a hundred thousand protestants joined the mission.

          Frank Sinatra sang a song and a hundred thousand catholics joined missions.

          Perry Como sang “Goldmines in the Sky” and a hundred thousand jews joined the Air Force.

        • Gay State Girl

          Wade
          I’m proud to say I have two cousins in the Airforce.

        • Wade in MO

          “I’m proud to say I have two cousins in the Airforce”

          Miners?…..no, of course not…….Mine owners?

        • Bay Area Guy

          Perry Como sang “Goldmines in the Sky” and a hundred thousand jews joined the Air Force.

          LOL! :)

          What did the Jewish Santa Clause say?

          -Ho-ho-ho, anybody wanna buy some toys?

          What’s a Jew’s idea of Christmas?

          -Parking meters on the roofs.

        • Bay Area Guy

          *claus*

        • Wade in MO

          Why do Jews have big noses?

          Because air is free.
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          What is the difference between black people and snow tires?

          Snow tires don’t sing gospel when you slap chains on them.
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          Why are their trees along the side of the street in Harlem?

          Public transportation.
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          Why are there no sandboxes in Harlem?

          The cats kept burying all the black kids.
          —————————————————-
          Why wasn’t christ born in Puerto Rico?

          Because they couldn’t find three wise men and a virgin.
          ———————————————————
          Why do they keep shit in the corner at an Italian wedding?

          To keep the flies off the bride.
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          What do you call a mexican girl who can run faster than her brother?

          A virgin.
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          What did the chinese kid get when he received a ‘B’ in school?

          Disowned.

        • Bay Area Guy

          Why wasn’t christ born in Puerto Rico?

          Because they couldn’t find three wise men and a virgin.

          Hehe, funny because it’s true.

  8. Gay State Girl

    One is a major, one just graduated Air force Academy.

  9. Bay Area Guy

    What is the national sport of Mexico?

    -Cross Country

    What’s a Jew’s biggest dilemma?

    -Free pork.

  10. Gay State Girl

    Gay Area Guy
    Can you find exact quote in which Kevin McDonald says that he wants to impose quotas on jews for universities or for those entering the establishement? I think it’s a brilliant idea. If these institutions ever went as far as suggesting such a plan, all the regular jewish donors would give their money to jewish institutions instead. They could recover from all that they lost from Madoff. Brandeis, YU, AJU, Touro, Gratz, Hebrew Union, and Miami would be all become more prestigious than Harvard. I gave birth to this idea but want to give McDonald his due credit for impregnating me.

    • Bay Area Guy

      Eh, I don’t know about MacDonald’s proposal.

      I do think, however, that a proposal to impose a special tax on predominantly Jewish banks/media outlets would be a great experiment.

      Either Jews accept it and gentiles can make money off the tax, or by screaming “anti-Semitism” over the special tax, they’re conceding that these banks/other institutions are in fact Jewish owned, in spite of their protestations that such isn’t the case.

      • Gay State Girl

        What would be your proposal to deal with jewish overrepresentation in the government or MSM?

        I don’t like Kevin MacDonald or Pat Buchanan because they embraces Phil Weiss whose views on multiculturalism are completely contrary to theirs’.

      • Reality Check

        What exact criteria would you use to determine if they are Jewish-owned?

  11. Gay State Girl

    Lindsay
    Do you have the exact quotes from Kevin MacDonald about limiting jewish enrollment at the Ivies and jews entering prominent positions?

    • He doesn’t say it. He brings it up only as a “thought experiment.” This is one of the lies the damned Jews spread about McDonald.

      • Gay State Girl

        I wouldn’t mind it actually. I always found it upseting that jews prefer to support institutions such as Princeton and the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston which had strong exclusive admissions policies in the 1930′s rather than supporting those with Orthodox affiliations such as Yeshiva University. As I mentioned before, I think jews would benefit more from creating and supporting their own institutions rather than dominating mainstream institutions.

  12. Gay State Girl

    Peter Yarrow was easy on the eyes in his day. Mary Travers has got to be the biggest busted chick.

    Compare how she looks here

    with this

    • Wade in MO

      “Mary Travers has got to be the biggest busted chick.”

      She’s from Kentucky, Dolly Parton is from Tennessee. There something in the genetics of the upper south that gives them huge knockers.
      Inbreeding?

      • Gay State Girl

        Wade
        Amiannoying.com defines busted chicks as women who were cute as young women and then became ugly in their middle age. Peter Yarrow became ugly as well.

        No ‘we’ have the biggest breasts. As an Ashkenazi jew, I’m more inbred than any redneck could ever dream of and I’m proud of it too.

  13. tulio

    White pedophiles in Africa:

  14. johnUK

    @Robert Lindsay

    Robert you should do a post of inbreeding within Muslim and Jewish communities and how that affects their behaviour, intelligence, etc.

    This would explain the Muslims wild, animal like behaviour and why countries like Pakistan are such a shithole.

    Here in Britain there is a high rate per population of genetic diseases within the Pakistani community due to the culture of marrying their cousins.

  15. robert, have you watched any casey johnson documentaries?

  16. FG

    I’ve become more receptive to the HBD position lately. The idea of innate racial differences certainly troubles me in some respects, but it’s intriguing to think that ancestral origins affect your personality and behavior in a fundamental way. I’m especially curious in the subject as it relates to mixed race people. Are they likely to possess characteristics intermediate to those of their parent races? Or does the combination of diverse ancestries endow them with attributes you wouldn’t expect based on their racial background? As I mentioned on another thread, I’m roughly 3/4 Euro, 1/5 African, and a smidgen Amerindian. What does that make me?

    • Amy

      “What does that make me?”
      I’ve been mulling over how much of a given race “counts” in a demographic sense. 1/4? 1/8? I’m still not sure. Curious as to what others think.
      In the 2000 and 2010 US censuses, we were allowed to check off more than one box for race. I’m guessing quite a few people checked off “Native American” on account of being, say, all of about 1/64 Cherokee.

      Last year I discovered that I’m only about 90% “white.” The rest is mostly Amerindian, with a smidgen of African (ha!). I figure 1/10 isn’t enough to justify labeling myself mixed-race, but I can’t decide just where I would draw the line.
      Re: how we express ancestral traits–just in terms of looks, it appears that some traits can be passed on “whole,” e.g., I have my gg-grandmother’s nose (I have an old photo), and some can be blended, e.g., my skin tone is somewhere between my Dad’s very pale skin and my Mom’s olive skin.
      As far as personality and behavior go–we inherit genes for those things as well, yeah?

      • Wade in MO

        ” but I can’t decide just where I would draw the line.”

        Draw the line in a place where you can get AA and other minority benefits. My guess is that white american will get more and more “pure white” over the next few decades because anyone who can find some mixture to count as mixed race as far as AA and related programs are concerned will start to define themselves as mixed race, especially males.

        • Amy

          My AA ancestry is through one male (!) ancestor from the 1600s (10 generations back–making me 1/2,048th black, LOL). Theoretically I have additional black ancestry through one Melungeon great-great-grandmother (a “tri-racial isolate” group in Appalachia).
          Re: the Amerindian side, as I have a teeny bit of ancestry from multiple tribes–Creek, Cherokee, Choctaw, Chowanoke, Cheroenhaka–most tribes require a blood quantum (a certain percentage) for membership. Anyway it’s not my culture even though it’s part of my genotype.
          Even if I could prove enough ancestry to somehow get paid for it, the idea of getting paid for what race my ancestors were is repugnant!

        • Wade in MO

          “the idea of getting paid for what race my ancestors were is repugnant!”

          Tell Al and Jesse, or better yet, tell Tim Wise. BTW, American Indian is an AA ancestry too.

          “My AA ancestry is through one male (!) ancestor from the 1600s (10 generations back–making me 1/2,048th black, LOL). ”

          According to modern evolutionary theory, all of our ancestors came from africa. You shouldn’t tell a white skinned african-american like me that I shouldn’t “da ‘firmuhtive akshun”. Iz u uh rayciss u 9/10 cracka?

        • Amy

          Oh duh!–Affirmative Action–I read AA as African-American. I do believe that in some circles I am already a racist for being against affirmative action, reparations and etc. Probably a lot of people around here would consider me a racist too (political correctness is almost like a religion around here).

        • Amy

          Speaking of Political Correctness–
          “Following is the winning entry from an annual contest calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term. This year’s term: ‘Political Correctness.’
          Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

  17. tulio

    I wonder if this photo is real? It is morbidly fascinating and so disturbing at the same time: http://www.funpicsfree.com/photogallery/funpics0828/ugly-fugly.jpg

  18. Gay State Girl

    They are really shooting themselves in the foot.
    http://mondoweiss.net/2011/04/move-over-aipac-conference-hosts-helen-thomas.html
    Move Over AIPAC is honoring Helen Thomas along with Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer, whom I doubt would want to share the podium with her.

    • Davey

      She’s a wonderful woman. Tells it how it is.
      Tribalist Jews, with their primitive Old Testament eye-for-an-eye views are sending Americans to the slaughter over a supremacist country in the Middle East. Thank god there a Jews like Philip Weiss who don’t give in to peer-group enforced chauvinism.

      • Gay State Girl

        Phil Weiss is an asshole. He is simply exploiting I/P to push his own multiculturalist agenda and to make a name for himself. He was a mediocre journalist at best, working for a third rate newspaper and he saw this as an opportunity to turn himself into some kind of legend. He also came into it with emotional bagage from being rejected from the jewish community because he intermarried so now he wants to force his idealogy on everyone else. Makes those of us who are genuinely concerned for the safety of Americans and Iraqis look like braindead cultural marxists, whose idealogy mirrors his.

        As for Helen Thomas, she is a senile old lady who has no business in a position that would require tact and objectivity. What happened to her was unfortunate, but her status should not be exalted just because of that.

        • Davey

          You’ll be tribal till the day you die. No danger of you joining the human race and thinking of things objectively.

        • Gay State Girl

          Davey
          You don’t know anything about me. I tend to take a neutral view on intermarriage and assimilation. We should accept it if it occurs, but not actively promote it. We should certainly not treat it as some sort of accomplishment or measure for success. I am skeptical of those who urge encourage everyone to forget about where they come from and “join the human race.” This is naive and deceptive. I will respect everyone regardless of race but that does not mean I must embrace their culture as my own.

        • Davey

          From what you write, I know a lot about you. Everything is from the perspective of your tribe. You are unable to think without looking through that prism.

  19. Gay State Girl

    No you don’t. I adopted a more tribalist perspective after reading loony multiculturalists. Prior to reading them I had no problem with cultural diversity or intermarriage and was willing to embrace it myself. But reading such tripe gave me an adverse reaction. Weiss seems to have an agenda, a plan for my generation and frankly I don’t want to fulfill his plan.

    • Davey

      Another post full of tribalism. Sadly, it seems, you can’t help it. It is impossible for you to do otherwise.

  20. Gay State Girl

    I don’t understand how you see that as chauvinistic. It is the likes of the Neocons and Cultural Marxists alike who seek to force their ideology on others. I’m all for respecting other peoples’ right to self determination so long as it does not harm anyone else. I’m in favor of cultural diversity which is why I support nationalism. But I’m equally repulsed by the extreme nationalists as I am by the multiculturalists. When I am around tribalist jews, I get an adverse reaction as well.

    • Davey

      Don’t look in the mirror, then.

      • Gay State Girl

        So much for tolerance and diversity then.

        I actually don’t mind antisemites that much. I find them infinitely preferable to young airheaded shiksas who pretend to have a deep appreciation for jewish culture when it’s obvious that they just want jewish sugar daddies.

        • Davey

          Anyone who criticises tribalism is an anti-semite. Keep repeating that to yourself.

          Shiksa is a disparaging term – why would someone trying to prove they have no problem with other groups use such a term?

  21. Gay State Girl

    I didn’t call you an antisemite. Personally I feel the term is overused to the point where it is meaningless.

    I’m light years ahead of the ‘tribalist jews’ that you speak of. If you want to lump me in with the settlers and ADL jews I don’t mind. But trhat renders the term meaningless.

    The multiculturalists are open to diversity until confronted with something they oppose.

  22. LaFleur

    One of the funniest E-mails from an Asshole I’ve seen in a while:

    http://www.dontevenreply.com/view.php?post=90

  23. Wade in MO

    How to get a girl:

  24. Gay State Girl

    Gay Area Guy and Lindsay
    I have a lot of respect for Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer. I hope that they don’t do themselves in by appearing on stage with Helen thomas and Ralph Nader. I think the America First Movement which I am completely supportive of needs to divorce itself and get a restraining order from the Palestinian Solidarity Movement.

  25. Gay State Girl

    Hacienda
    http://www.chinadecoded.com/2010/05/25/why-chinese-men-are-marrying-vietnamese-women/

    Many Southeast Asians still harbor negative feelings toward the Chinese so China is producing hostility from within.

    • Wade in MO

      I remember reading something, I think from the Tiger Mother, that said that many southeast asians aren’t too hostile towards older established chinese merchants in their country, but the new ones coming in are causing a lot of tension and are disliked. I’ll try to find it, but I also read one of her books, so it may not be on the web.

  26. Amy

    This is interesting:
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110404093155.htm

    “Research from North Carolina State University shows that they really don’t make women like they used to, at least in Spain. The study, which examined hundreds of Spanish and Portuguese skulls spanning four centuries, shows that differences in the craniofacial features of men and women have become less pronounced.”

  27. Shawn

    Can BS brainwashing trump millions of years of evolution.

    Meet the MOST pathetic men on YouTube!

  28. nazbol

    Vidoes like these make one nostalgic for Bull Connor and the Old SOuth, when niggers knew their place or they got hosed down, lynched, or beat with clubs.

    • An indictment of blacks, women, cell phones or pizza parlors? Take your pick. This video could easily have been part of a Sasquatch post.

    • Bay Area Guy

      @ Nazbol

      These types of videos used to make me really angry and heated, but now, I’m hardly surprised. Rather than being incensed, my attitude is “meh, that’s TNB for you.”

      Interestingly enough, I’m more disgusted with the white bystanders who just sat back and did nothing to help their fellow white man. Granted, that black guy was one big fucker, but the whites still greatly outnumbered the blacks.

      All I know is that 6 decades ago, whites would not have stood for that.

      • Bay Area Guy

        TNB! He’s got to fight!
        TNB! He beat up a white!
        TNB! He done explode fo show!
        TNB! Cuz he’s a knee-grow!

        • Bay Area Guy

          Yeah, I know, a bit of a lame play off of “TNT,” but I try!

        • nazbol

          @BAG
          That was pretty good. Did you make it up on the spot?
          Ironically, I used to be a rap fan back in high school, not even pop rap but hardcore shit like Eazy-E. I dont know if that makes me a former “chigger” or not.

        • Bay Area Guy

          Did you make it up on the spot?

          Hehe, yup. I knew that TNB sounded similar to TNT, so I went from there.

          I used to be a rap fan back in high school, not even pop rap but hardcore shit like Eazy-E. I dont know if that makes me a former “chigger” or not.

          I wouldn’t say that listening to rap or hardcore rap ipso facto makes one a wigger of chigger.

          Dressing or acting black is what qualifies you as a wigger/chigger, in my opinion.

      • tulio

        I’ve seen this “TNB” acronym in the WN lexicon going back over a decade now. I guess the assumption is that that beating people up in pizza stores is “typical” behavior of black people. Of course anything back bad a black person does automatically becomes “typical” in the mind of the white racist.

        Anyway, I think it’s fucked up that all those people stood and watched. That guy was big, but he was also slow and cumbersome. It would’ve taken on 2 guys to take him down. One guy was just sitting there sipping his soda like it was entertainment. That’s just fucked up while someone is being beat to a pulp. After watching this, maybe white guys are pussies. Because there’s no way a white guy could walk into a store and start beating the shit out of a black guy for nothing while a bunch of black guys just stand around and watch.

        As an aside, if someone aggressive is getting in your face, never keep your hands down and you don’t take your eyes off the aggressor. That dude put his head down and didn’t even see that punch coming. If someone like that gets in your face, assume they are going to attack. It’s your decision whether to fight or flight, but don’t just fucking stand there like a punching bag waiting to get hit. Either get ready to fight or get the hell out of there. Then second mistake, even after he got punched, he turned his back toward the attacker.

        • Bay Area Guy

          After watching this, maybe white guys are pussies…As an aside, if someone aggressive is getting in your face, never keep your hands down and you don’t take your eyes off the aggressor. That dude put his head down and didn’t even see that punch coming. If someone like that gets in your face, assume they are going to attack. It’s your decision whether to fight or flight, but don’t just fucking stand there like a punching bag waiting to get hit. Either get ready to fight or get the hell out of there.

          Yeah, that, as opposed to the black guy’s actions, is what made me angry.

          “TNB” aside, this would not have happened if whites actually had a fucking backbone and refused to take crap. And seriously, learn how to handle yourself in a fight situation.

        • In all fairness, 300 pounds of unleashed black mayhem is formidable as hell. For the onlookers to spontaneously pool their force together in order to overcome him means that one person will have to make the initial move and trust that others will rush in to help but ultimately it’s really a game of chicken because no one wants to be the next in line to get their face bashed in. That dude is strong as a bull and he can probably throw lots of guys a few feet. He’s no NFL linebacker so if I got on his bad side I would run like hell…swiftness does not look like his strength. This situation sucks because someone is getting pummeled. The only option would be for the manager to start beating him up with dough roller or pizza pan ha!

        • tulio

          Unmarried man. Don’t exaggerate the dude’s power. Yeah, he’s big and strong for one guy, but a couple regular size guys can overpower one big guy. How do you think cops bum rush wild crazy guys on PCP? Now throw in 4 or 5 guys as we saw standing around watching and they could’ve smashed him. There’s no reason one man of any size should be able to run amok like that while half a dozen onlookers watch. Especially when they saw the whole thing from the beginning and that the guy didn’t do anything. Everyone is of course standing there waiting for someone else to do something. The whole thing is a shame to watch because it didn’t have to happen. There was easily enough manpower in that room to stop that assault.

        • tulio

          What would’ve been cool though is after teaming up and knocking the big guy out cold, go find that bitch of a girlfriend of his, pin her down and bukkake her ass in retribution for spitting in that guy’s face. Lol.

        • Tulio, agreed. He’s not superman.

          However, police are trained, mentally and physically, for aggressive physical confrontation plus they are armed. The average random civilian standing in Shakey’s or Papa John’s is just not Rambo.

          I had a friend once who was only about 5’8″ but he weight 280 pounds. A lot of it was fat, obviously, but in the hand-to-hand world of physical altercations, weight is king. This guy I knew is one of the strongest SOB’s I’ve ever known personally, add 20 pounds and 8 inches, I’m betting on the big guy in the video to easily fend off some hungry pizza customers.

        • Anyway, I think it’s fucked up that all those people stood and watched. That guy was big, but he was also slow and cumbersome.

          It’s the police tulio, no one wants to bother with the police. Also after seeing that big guy take out one person, it could’ve just as easly turned around and taken out a second and maybe third man.

        • Wade in MO

          “Unmarried man. Don’t exaggerate the dude’s power. Yeah, he’s big and strong for one guy, but a couple regular size guys can overpower one big guy”

          Or someone near by with a foreign object and the will to use it can take out a larger guy even faster. Personally, I’d rather take a fist to the face than a fork to the eye any day.

      • johnUK

        @Bay Area Guy

        American whites are the biggest blowhards and pussies out there so I don’t feel the least bit sorry when some black dude kicks the shit of some white guy.

        The whole white flight thing shows how lame US whites are when a minority group comes into their neighbourhood like the blowhards and cowards they are flee to other areas instead of taking a stand despite the fact they are allowed to own guns and create militias.

    • tulio

      Be careful what you wish for. If it was up to Bull Conner and the Old South your dumb ass would’ve never been allowed in this country. Ever heard the name Vincent Chin? If if not, maybe you should look him up before you go supporting white, racist, vigilante justice, you wannabe white Asian boy.

      Btw, what’s the fucking point of finding random clips of fights on youtube as “evidence” of anything? Like you can’t find clips of whites doing the same shit:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVHvurc4oyM

      Btw, Notice the woman in the above clip gets 2 months probation for her attack versus the black guy getting 4 years. Hmmm….

      • nazbol

        You’re barking up the wrong tree. I think 1965 Immigration was a huge mistake. And frankly Asians should’ve stayed in their homelands
        (including my parents) and make things better there than running away.

        • tulio

          Then why don’t you remove yourself from the US and never come back? I don’t see you telling all Asians to go back home either.

      • Bay Area Guy

        Btw, Notice the woman in the above clip gets 2 months probation for her attack versus the black guy getting 4 years. Hmmm….

        Oh come on, Tulio.

        As far as I can tell, that woman didn’t leave someone with a broken eye socket or a concussion.

  29. Ironically, I used to be a rap fan back in high school, not even pop rap but hardcore shit like Eazy-E.

    Nigga.

    • Gay State Girl

      Duid y’all see that episode of The Chapelle show in which every respective race chooses a celebrity to represent them. Asians chose the Wu Tang clan and jews chose Lenny Kravitz.

    • tulio

      And why exactly does a Korean man give a shit about this? Are you white? Or Russian?

      Why is Nazbol trying so desperately to be white?

    • johnUK

      @nazbol

      Only in Russia….

      That he said the white Russia race is under threat (which is true) or that he was fired because he said it?

  30. LaFleur

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-viral-video-mcdonalds-20110422,0,4613709.story

    If the Maryland McDonald’s beating victim was indeed transgender, I wonder if Tim Wise will hold the black women who beat her responsible, or blame the LGBT community for not doing enough “outreach” as he did after Prop 8. It’s interesting to consider the rankings of victim groups on the cultural leftist totem pole.

  31. Bay Area Guy

    @ Lafleur

    Tim Wise probably doesn’t give a crap. Somehow, methinks he’ll use this opportunity to chastise the white LGBT community for not engaging with black issues enough, and being blind to their “white privilege.”

    On another note, considering the hysterical overreaction to Kobe Bryant calling an NBA ref a faggot, I guess gays are slowly but surely gaining diversity points. That whole situation must have been a tough conundrum for cultural leftists. A member of one protected class (a black) insulting members of an increasingly protected class (gays).

    • Bay Area Guy

      It’s interesting to consider the rankings of victim groups on the cultural leftist totem pole.

      In the minds of radical cultural marxists, blacks still occupy the top spot, by far.

      In the mainstream, however, I say Jews are the top-ranked victim group. Oh, and if you don’t respect their victimhood, you’ll be destroyed (to quote Sobran). Just ask Rick Sanchez and Helen Thomas.

      • Gay State Girl

        Gay Area Guy
        That only happens in the professional world. If a jew and a black got into a fight, the jew would be held responsible.

  32. Bay Area Guy

    That only happens in the professional world. If a jew and a black got into a fight, the jew would be held responsible.

    True. I guess your personal experience attests to that.

  33. nazbol

    I wonder what the Christian ZIonists are gonna say about this?
    Especially that fat loser John Hagee.

    • Davey

      I never understood the hostility Jews get for crucifying Jesus. It was the best thing they ever did. He was an awful little parvenu carpenter.

    • Reality Check

      If the Jews hadn’t crucified Jesus where would your little soul be going?

    • tulio

      So much for the stereotype of the Jewish woman’s appearance. Even a WN would bang that!

    • johnUK

      Jewish hypocrite Melanie Griffin tells us the “truth” about Israel.

    • Aaron

      Anyone with a brain can see that it’s making fun of Jewish, specifically Zionist, anti-Christian stereotypes and fears. It shows that Israelis are occasionally able to laugh at themselves (i.e., able to laugh at other Israelis).

      Toffee and the Gorilla was a series on the Israeli comedy channel. It was sort of an Israeli attempt at South Park humor. Toffee was always dressed in a bikini for the whole show. Once the show’s topic was feminism. The gorilla said he wanted to be a feminist. Toffee replied that he can’t be a feminist because he’s mizrahi (Middle Eastern). The show’s an attempt at South Park political incorrectness. Get it? Get it?

      Sometimes the Jews get hassled for bringing the dread contamination of irony into the fold of the pure-hearted, sincere White People. Other times we get hassled because White People don’t understand it when we’re being ironic. Oy vey, we just can’t win!

  34. Gay State Girl

    Gay Area guy
    We can’t have a free and open democracy as long as BIG MONEY TALKS.

    • LouisT

      Modern democracies make a big thing about separating Church and State. (incidentally, that’s why Israel and Islamic states can’t really be democracies). Also separating the Judiciary and Government.

      But the real test for society’s advancement is separating Business and Government. Socialism and Capitalism haven’t done this.

  35. LaFleur

    BAG, regarding our discussion on Tim Wise’s theory that “whiteness” was invented in the US in the late 17th century:

    Wise: Contrary to popular belief, the white race is a quite modern creation, which only emerged as a term and concept to describe Europeans in the late 1600s and after, specifically in the colonies of what would become the United States.

    A couple of quotes from Othello, written nearly 75 years before Bacon’s Rebellion:

    Iago: ’Zounds! sir, you’re robb’d; for shame, put on your gown;
    Your heart is burst, you have lost half your soul;
    Even now, now, very now, an old black ram
    Is tupping your white ewe.
    Arise, arise!
    Awake the snorting citizens with the bell,
    Or else the devil will make a grandsire of you.

    Iago again:

    ’Zounds! sir, you are one of those that will not serve God if the devil bid you. Because we come to do you service and you think we are ruffians, you’ll have your daughter covered with a Barbary horse; you’ll have your nephews neigh to you; you’ll have coursers for cousins and gennets for germans.

    Ouch.

    Othello’s racial otherness is a constant reference throughout the play. The idea that Europeans had no concept of racial differences before a bunch of southern planters conspired to invent them is laughable. There are medieval Jewish commentaries on the Curse of Ham, for crying out loud.

    It’s as if anti-racists like Wise believe they cannot oppose racism unless they convince themselves and others that it’s something foreign to human nature that was imposed from without. There is a difference between acknowledging that something has been around for eons and thinking that it’s good. I have a hard time believing that even Wise is that stupid, but he’s not the only one. CLR James said:

    [T]he conception of dividing people by race begins with the slave trade. This thing was so shocking, so opposed to all the conceptions of society which religion and philosophers had that the only justification by which humanity could face it was to divide people into races and decide that the Africans were an inferior race.

    • LouisT

      Race discourse in the US is hyper-narcissistic. When Americans think of ‘race’ they they think of black and white Americans, and all of the history entails.
      Ironically, when the white anti-racist American promotes this as a global view of race, he is indulging in a form of colonialism.

    • Bay Area Guy

      The idea that Europeans had no concept of racial differences before a bunch of southern planters conspired to invent them is laughable.

      Southern AMERICAN planters, mind you. Very ironically, Tim Wise’s analysis reeks of U.S. exceptionalism, in spite of all his claims to hate American patriotism.

      Never mind that the Spanish, in their New World colonies, had a racial hierarchy/notion of race well before Bacon’s Rebellion.

      The fact that this guy gets paid a handsome salary to spew his BS is frightening.

      • Gay State Girl

        Gay Area Guy
        I find it equally scary that quack doctors like Simon Baron Cohen are earning their livings off the backs of British taxpayers.

        • Bay Area Guy

          @ GSG

          The West is dead. An exaggeration? Hardly. Otherwise, crap like this would not be happening.

          You know why Asia and the East will ultimately prevail over the West? Because they’ve had the wisdom to remain Asian, and don’t question their own legitimacy.

          The West will die because it’s increasingly non-Western, and hates itself for the Western elements it does have.

      • LaFleur

        The West is dead…You know why Asia and the East will ultimately prevail over the West? Because they’ve had the wisdom to remain Asian, and don’t question their own legitimacy.

        I dunno, man. Aren’t the Chinese going to be cancer-ridden differently-abled folks within a few generations? They’ve turned their country into a toilet in less than 40 years. North America still has arable land and water. At least until they start fracking the shit out of it.

        It may be that the ultimate American export/weapon against China was the American Dream. How long is Wei-Ling Six Pack going to be willing to spend 12 hours a day screwing together cars he’ll never be able to afford?

        The West will die because it’s increasingly non-Western, and hates itself for the Western elements it does have.

        This is all due to propaganda. There came a point in the USSR where people just stopped believing it, and I think the same thing may be happening here.

        • Gay State Girl

          That’s right. China is not producing enough of their own women, so they have to import Southeast and Pacific women who will inevitably bring their own culture with them. Many Vietnamese and Thais are still resentful about Chinese dominance in their respective countries so China is breeding its own form of hostility from within.

        • Bay Area Guy

          There came a point in the USSR where people just stopped believing it, and I think the same thing may be happening here.

          I guess you’re already seeing something of the sort in Europe, with the rise of far right parties (but relatively progressive economically) in Britain, France, Austria, Hungary, Holland, etc. Even Sweden’s far right party enjoyed moderate success. German Thilo Sarrazin’s book about the problems of alien immigration to Germany has enjoyed much success. Etc.

          (in fact, Noam Chomsky went on a rant about racist and nationalistic politics in Europe during his latest counterpunch screed)

          I think Europeans, to a certain extent, are certainly saying “enough is enough” when it comes to the whole multiculturalism/globalization experience.

          I don’t know if the U.S. will have a similar awakening. The “Tea Party” is a joke, as James Edwards has repeatedly made clear, and there’s no way a bunch of teocons and corporatized republicans are going to do any good when it comes to reversing these trends.

          If every white American thought like Pat Buchanan and the late Sam Francis, perhaps. But that’s asking for too much.

        • nazbol

          I would say is better off today than in 1971. Your perspective is skewed. China WAS a toilet in, say, 1911.

        • Bay Area Guy

          I dunno, man. Aren’t the Chinese going to be cancer-ridden differently-abled folks within a few generations? They’ve turned their country into a toilet in less than 40 years. North America still has arable land and water. At least until they start fracking the shit out of it.

          It may be that the ultimate American export/weapon against China was the American Dream. How long is Wei-Ling Six Pack going to be willing to spend 12 hours a day screwing together cars he’ll never be able to afford?

          @ Lafleur

          China certainly has serious problems. gender imbalance, terrible environmental issues, the serious problems, political and ethnic, that could arise if China ever democratizes (ie. think of Tibetans and Uighurs and what they would do if given democracy), as well as the potential long term consequences of remaining authoritarian (not that I think democracy is a panacea, but still).

          There’s going to be a day of reckoning in China, for sure.

          But there sense of work ethic, nationalism, and pride will propel them forward. They don’t question their own legitimacy or cheerfully celebrate their own demise the way Western leftists do.

        • Bay Area Guy

          *their sense of work ethic*

        • Wade in MO

          “China certainly has serious problems. gender imbalance”

          It’s questionable how big of a problem gender imbalance is. After WWII, both East Germany and the especially the USSR had signifigantly more women than men. (The men died fighting, obviously) and yet they didn’t explode. However, having more males is quite different that having more females….

          Here’s one possible consequence for China’s sex imbalance:

          http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2011/03/trade

        • nazbol

          @BAG
          That’s why China should never “democratize”, ie. national suicide. Keep it authoritarian all the way. The Chinese know all about Gorbachev and his treason back in the 80′s. If China were really smart, they would not only remain authoritarian, but they would explicitly move in a national socialist direction, and dumping Marxism-Leninism.

  36. johnUK

    Russia’s immigration policy is a little different from the US.

    • Gay State Girl

      JohnUK
      If they can prove that there is a genocide going on, at least we can offer temporary refuge.

      • johnUK

        @Gay State Girl

        Are you talking about Russia or the US?

        Actually Russia has the 2nd largest flow of immigration into the country in the world after the US so the report is misleading.

        The situation regarding Russia and Central Asia is like US and Mexico accept much worse were all these countries have the own major Islamic groups who are involved in jihad against Russia and CA migrants act as drug mulls for Afghan drug lords.

      • Wade in MO

        “If they can prove that there is a genocide going on, at least we can offer temporary refuge”

        Oh yes, “temporary refuge”. Kind of like how the turkish Gastarbeiters in Germany were only “temporary”. As soon as the “genocide” (assuming the claim is not bullshit) is over and the immigrants were getting shipped back, then we would hear screams of “human rights violations” and other garbage. We would hear a bunch of whiny liberals get up and lecture us on how their home country is ruined and it is supposedly the fault of european colonialism so they should be allowed to stay and get special hiring priveliges. No thanks. If they wnat to get away from their regime then they should seek refuge in a neighboring african country. Many afghan refugees were concentrated in countires that bordered them, why should Ivorians flee all the way to the Ural mountains.

        I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this sounds like an angloshpere plot. They assist these africans in getting to Russia and when the Russians dislike the intruders the anglosphere countires lecture them on “racism” and try to hurt their image abroad. Why would an african choose to go to Russia for asylum. First thing, Africans know about Russian neo-nazis and how Russia is much more dangerous for them than western countries. I knew a guy from Cameroon from college who told me that Russia’s image in Africa had been affected by the movement. Second, it is more likely that a west african can learn some english or french, not russian. There was some africans educated in the Soviet Union and could speak russian. However, I odn’t think these guys spoke Russian in the interview and I doubt they knew much of any of it. Third, travel to the Urals is much more difficult than travel to Western Europe. Travel to New York may have even be easier. I think all this adds up to an anglosphere scam. The much more obvoius choice for these immigrants in western europe or the US, yet they end up in a small town in the Urals. Something’s not right here….

    • Wade in MO

      The whole asylum scheme is ridiculous. Did anyone notice that all the “refugees” were all young males, who are probably the group most able to defend themselves in their home countries? You would think those less able to defend themselves like women or children would be refugees, yet, conspicously, they are absent.

      If these guys don’t like it, then they should leave Russia. If they’re so poor, then how were they able to not only get into Russia, but into an extremely isolated part of Russia away from major transportation hubs. Most immigrants are “colonists” for the international business elite.

      • Reality Check

        Most immigrants are “colonists” for the international business elite.

        According to your scheme, I’m actually a “colonist” on behalf of… myself? Cool.

      • Amy

        @Wade:
        “Did anyone notice that all the “refugees” were all young males, who are probably the group most able to defend themselves in their home countries?”
        Like the 26,000+ “refugees” pouring into Italy from Tunisia, Libya, etc.–the vast majority are young men looking for work. (Interesting to watch France, Belgium, Austria, etc. closing their borders and snapping that the migrants are Italy’s problem.)
        There was also one boatload earlier this month from which 12 girls were pushed overboard en route as the boat was overcrowded.

        • johnUK

          Europe deserves to be flooded by African and Muslim immigrants first by supporting fascist Islamic terrorists against Gadaffi who was stopping Islamic terrorism in Africa and African immigrants into Europe then by suppressing the so called Arab spring in the Mid East and exporting there Islamic filth into Orthodox and other Christian lands.

  37. Wade in MO

    @Gay State Girl and Reality Check

    Do you think that you guys could call someone and have the Twilight Zone aired at a more reasonable hour? I’m tired on having to record it early in the morning. A Wednesday night block would be nice, but I’d settle for a one-hour a night type schedule too. Thanks.

    Maybe you could set up a third X-files movies too? Just don’t make it a let down like the second one. That one was horrible. Before I saw the second X-Files movie I was a zionist. Now…..

  38. tulio

    White man snaps on public transit for no reason:

  39. tulio

    So they just announce on the radio news a few minutes ago that China’s economy will have eclipsed the US in 5 years to become the world’s largest economy. I don’t know about you guys, but I’m getting sick of hearing it over and over.

    Duh, of course they will, they have 25% of the world’s fucking population, they don’t have to increase their economy by very much to be the largest.

    On a GDP per capita basis, they are a very long way behind the USA. GDP per capita of of China is around $4000, for the USA, it’s $45000. So a Chinese makes 10x less money than an American, yet we have to keep having it pounded in our head like they have now taken over the world or something.

    China is two-tier economy, like Brazil. It may have first world or close to first world conditions in the cities where people make Western-level incomes and have the comforts we take for granted in the West. But outside the cities, it is still 3rd world with unsanitary conditions, pollution, slums, poor access to education and health care, no social mobility, etc.

    This photo was taken in Shanghai: http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/21800441.jpg

    Seriously, I’ve had enough of this talk of “China overtaking the US for the number one economy!”. It’s meaningless due to their 1.3 billion people.

    Btw, since Chinese have IQs above 100, what is the explanation for why their GDP per capita is only $4000?

    • Conditions are not so unsanitary in rural China. 96% of the population has access to toilet facilities and indoor plumbing. I do not believe that China has much in the way of your typical 3rd World slums in either the rural or the urban areas. It’s simply not a 3rd World shithole. That’s the wrong way of looking at China.

      • tulio

        “Nearly 312 million rural Chinese residents have no access to safe drinking water, facing problems of shortage as well as severe contamination. ”

        “Most villages in China still lack access to sewer pipes, wastewater treatment systems, and formal garbage collection and disposal services.”

        http://www.worldwatch.org/node/4827

        • Yes but they have toilets.

          You are moaning about the $4000 annual income. How are you going to raise that, send everyone to school, provide medical care to everyone, indoor plumbing, trash collection and clean water for all the villagers? Don’t you see the contradiction?

    • Bay Area Guy

      Duh, of course they will, they have 25% of the world’s fucking population, they don’t have to increase their economy by very much to be the largest.

      Bingo. The same problem applies when people analyze the supposed “rise” of India.

      Since they both have over a billion people, even if the vast majority live in poverty, they’ll have a least a few hundred million middle class and educated people, which is more than the entire population of the U.S.

      And yes, due to its size and population, it will necessarily have a larger economy.

      But as far as the standard of living is concerned for the average person, in spite of all this country’s problems, I’d rather be living in the U.S.

      Also, everyone was all excited when China surpassed Japan to become the world’s #2 economy. Yeah, China may have a larger economy, but would you rather be an individual living in China or Japan?

      (yes, granted, due to Japan’s recent environmental tragedies, that question seems absurd, but just imagine a pre-disaster Japan and then compare it to China).

      • nazbol

        And Africa also has plenty of people. How are they doing?

        • tulio

          GDP per head of Angola is higher than that of China, if that puts things in perspective. This “China as the world’s number one economy” is a joke. But everyone will read that headline and say “Wow! America has fallen behind!” China is still a poor country and has a very long way to go until average incomes are up to Western or Japanese standards.

      • Wade in MO

        “(yes, granted, due to Japan’s recent environmental tragedies, that question seems absurd, but just imagine a pre-disaster Japan and then compare it to China).”

        As if China doesn’t have mass enviromental tragedies? The difference is is that in China many times they aren’t accidents but just pollution.

  40. nazbol

    Rob, what do you think of this one? Pure gold.

  41. Gay State Girl

    Alan Dershowitz is set to defend Gigi Jordan, Manhattan socialite who killed her autistic son.
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/celebrity_defense_attorney_alan_yhJgvlwuwIaHTJu3vOGWgI

    • Dota

      If he can articulate a case for Israel, then this one should be a cake walk.

      Sorry, couldn’t resist the cheap shot :D

    • Amy

      I’ve lost count of how many of these I’ve read about. Sometimes the kids are Aspies, even. No words.

      • Gay State Girl

        So Dota. You believe murdering a Palestinian is worse than murdering a disabled child? Do you hold the Palestinians holy or something? Nothing could possibly compare to killing one of your precious Palestinians? Sorry I couldn’t resist.

        Amy
        I’m no fan of Dershowitz. There is much to be said in her defense though. Unlike his other cases, this was very much a quality of life issue. Severly Autistic children often engage in self injurious behavior and can pose a threat to others. Also Gigi had developed a health issue, and she was afraid of what would happen to him if she could not take care of him. group homes are terrible places. That’s no excuse to murder your child, but it does put the murder into perspective. She is not on the level of OJ or von Bulow.

        • Dershowitz is going to argue that it wasn’t a murder, but a retroactive abortion.

          That is what they call in the profession “legal jiujitsu.”

        • Dota

          ?

          I was just saying (sarcastically) that he’s good at defending cold blooded murder, and so this case should be right up his alley. I dunno wtf you’re going on about.

        • Gay State Girl

          I was just playing your game. I enjoy being a wise ass so thank you for giving me an opportunity. By calling the defense of the murder of a disabled child would somehow be a “cakewalk” in comparison to the murder of a Palestinian, you are implying that the murder of a Palestinian is more serious than that of a disabled child. During my internet adventures, I have met people who believe that nothing is comparable to the suffering of Palestinians.

        • Amy

          Gay State Girl–I’m not unsympathetic to what these parents go through. My eight year old autistic son is “high-functioning” but still, self-harm issues, constant health issues, screaming-he’s-going-to-kill-me meltdowns. If he were non-verbal, etc. etc. it would be so much more difficult. Often he’s bright and funny and we’re making each other laugh. It could be so much worse.
          Reading about the ones that get to the end of their rope is mind-numbingly sad.

        • Gay State Girl

          I feel she did it more for her son’s sake than her own. She had developed her own health issue and she was unsure whether she could count on Jude’s father as he was estranged or his stepfather as he could never care for him as a real parent could. Most parents are afraid to put their children in group homes as they are impersonal and abuse is very much the norm.

        • Gay State Girl

          Amy
          I’m sorry you had to go through that.

        • Amy

          Call me crazy, but most days still seem more good than bad!
          Though I hate to think of what would happen if anything were to happen to me.

  42. Dota

    You play it pretty poorly considering I was just having fun while you got pretty worked up.

    I wasn’t implying anything. If he can justify ethnic cleansing, this case shouldn’t be too hard since he already has a lot of practice. You reading too deeply into this and I suspect you feel like putting yourself in a bad mood.

  43. LaFleur

    Here’s a guy who makes Abagond look like Patrick Buchanan. He had me going for a while, but I think it’s a parody:

    http://principles-of-progressive-politics.blogspot.com/2009/04/principle-of-progressive-politics.html

    Minority crime is caused by white oppression

    The next time you read about an African American or Hispanic who committed a crime, don’t blame the African American or Hispanic, instead blame the majority white population. Whites have historically oppressed people-of-color; this has been occurring for hundreds of years. Oppressed people have limited opportunity for education, employment, promotion, advancement, etc. Such oppression unfortunately manifests itself in the form of violent crime. Ultimately, whites are responsible for such crime.

    GANGS & GRAFFITI
    Nobody likes street gangs or graffiti. Unfortunately, most street gangs are either Hispanic or African American. However, the reality is that gangs result when whites oppress people-of-color. When a gang member commits a violent crime, the gang member should NEVER be on trial. Instead, the majority white population should be on trial for oppressing minorities… the gang member is the victim and the white population at large is the victimizer.
    As a person-of-color myself, it’s disheartening to admit that the majority of graffiti in urban America is done by minorities (most studies on graffiti & vandalism show this). However, the next time you drive down the highway and see graffiti, don’t blame minority youth for spraying such graffiti. His action is the cumulative effect of white institutionalized oppression. Essentially, it is white oppression which is “spraying” the graffiti, not the young person-of-color. Minorities spray graffiti as a subconscious expression of their oppression. The anger you feel when seeing the ugliness of such graffiti should be directed at white people.

    WHAT ABOUT MURDER?
    In the case in which a person-of-color commits murder, there should be some, albeit, limited punishment (perhaps a couple years of prison time). But again, such a crime, as heinous as it is, is ultimately the result of white oppression. Rehabilitation, job training, and housing should be provided to the person-of-color upon his/her release from prison.

    Here’s another goodie:

    WHITES MUST BE REDUCED TO A MINORITY
    White people have had 2,000 years to change their ways and, yet, THEY HAVE NOT. Whites seem unable to practice justice and fairness. Therefore the only solution is to reduce whites to a minority wherever they are presently a majority (USA, Canada, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, etc). The sooner whites are reduced to a minority, the sooner the world can be remade into a unified global society based on justice & dignity… a world free of war and conflict. In such a world, the natural instincts inherent in people-of-color (eg. sharing, justice, peace, fairness, etc) will then finally be free to flourish. Lastly, the fewer white people in the world, the less chance they’ll have to re-emerge and restart their oppressive & racist ways. Sadly, this is the only solution, and, however this solution is realized is justified (large scale non-white immigration, birth control, abortion, etc).

    This entry made me think it must be a put-on. This is just too silly:

    Unfortunately, our bigoted heterosexual society marginalizes, mocks, and oppresses alternate sexualities. During the past 40 years, a campaign of tolerance has helped this situation somewhat. However, tremendous oppression still exists towards those practicing alternate sexual lifestyles. The only way to end such discrimination is to “normalize” alternate sexual lifestyles by vigorously promoting them. By drastically increasing the numbers of gays, lesbians, bisexual, and transgender people in society, we essentially “normalize” alternate sexualities.
    Ideally, in say 40 years (roughly two generations), we hope to realize a society in which at least 50% of all people are gay or lesbian. In slowly building up to this 40 year mark, we incrementally (year by year) will make alternate sexual lifestyles become more and more “normal”. Such sexualities will eventually, by definition, not be “alternative” but rather “normal” (due to the large percentage of the population practicing them).

    (…)

    A child should grow up being equally curious about boys and girls.

    The rest of the blog is pretty convincing, and much of it wouldn’t be out of place in the CRT-sphere or Monkey Smashes Heaven, but this bit was just a little overdone. Overall he comes across as a Maoist-Third Worldist Ed Anger.

    • tulio

      Of course it’s a parody/mockery, I didn’t have to read beyond a few sentences to reckon that.

      • LaFleur

        If you’ve spent any time on Rev Left or Maoist Third Worldist blogs, it’s not so obvious.

        • I agree, I am confused about whether or not this is real. It’s quite hard to say.

        • LaFleur

          If the bit about turning half the population gay wasn’t there, I would have just assumed the writer was serious. I’ve seen all of his other points made on serious blogs.

  44. Wade in MO

    Look Robert, you’re not the only one who is gay for Bigfoot:


    Watch fullscreen, dead center, look between the trees, and slow down.

  45. Julian

    “GDP per head of Angola is higher than that of China, if that puts things in perspective.”

    Ya and Equitorial Guinea has a GDP per capita higher than the US in theory, in reality most people live in grinding poverty much worse than China.

    LOL at comparing Angola to China.

    Angola is your typical african shit hole wracked by aids, decades of civil war, and rich in oil. The oil is the reason its economy grows so fast.

    China and India are poor because for decades the rulers chose communism/socialism. When they opened up, their economies started booming and I expect this to continue just like the so called Asian Tigers became developed. Not surprising when you consider that for most of recent human history India and China were both major civilizations with huge influence in SE Asia and in some cases Europe indirectly through Arabs.

    Decades ago Jamaica actually had a higher GDP than Singapore, a moron like you would have used that to score some point about how Blacks may have higher IQ’s than Chinese but a smart man would have told you that looking back at the history of humans, China along with India have almost always been 2 major civilizations while blacks created nothing comparable. Based on that a smart man would have placed his bets on Singapore soon surpassing Jamaica.

    I will tell you what, 20 years from now I have no doubt in my mind that both India and China will have a better GDP per capita than most African countries including Angola.

    • India is a shithole! There never was any Communism in India. 50% of the population of India is starving, malnourished. 15 years ago, it was 51%. 15 years later, it is 51%. Neoliberalism is a total failure in India. 1/2 the population is starving, hunger kills 14 million/yr in South Asia alone, and 600 million Indians shit in the streets. India is a shithole!

      In China, only 7% of the population is malnourished. See what a difference Communism made? 4% of Chinese lack a toilet. 55% of Indians shit in the streets in their Indian shithole. Communism was great for China.

      I support the Maoists! Go Maoists go!

      • nazbol

        What about the Cultural Revolution, which was insane? And wasn’t India socialist under Nehru and Indira?

        • True, the Cultural Revolution had a lot of problems, but progress continued nonetheless. India’s “socialism” was nothing but crap. It didn’t work. 600 million shitting in the streets? 550 million starving? 14 million dying of hunger every year? WTF kind of socialism is that?

          Keep in mind that in 1949, India and China were equal on almost all variables. Look at China now. Look at India now. The differences are due to Communism and even “socialism with Chinese characteristics” since 1978, which is not so capitalist as you think.

          India doesn’t spend one dime on its poor. Never did.

    • tulio

      Who the hell are you calling moron, you dipshit. I didn’t compare Angola and China or say they economies or equally dynamic. My point is that if we are weighing so much importance on GDP vis-a-vis this much touted projection that China’s GDP will overtake America, keep in mind that China is far behind us in per capita GDP and theirs is even less than Angola when you have to divide it up amongst 1.3 billion people. So my point is even if China does overtake us in aggregate GDP, it doesn’t mean that all that much. Just as you said it doesn’t mean much if Jamaica had a higher GDP than Singapore. So thanks for making my point you bellicose idiot.

  46. Dota

    Every Indian nationalist’s wet dream: White kids singing India’s national anthem :D

    Robert will certainly get a kick out of this :D

  47. Julian

    “And wasn’t India socialist under Nehru and Indira?”

    It was until the 90′s, this moron Robert Lindsay as usual doesn’t know what he is talking about.

    Let him put his money where his mouth is and check back 20 years from now, let’s see what the situation of India and China is then compared to any of the Black African countries.

    There was “never any communism in India”, basic googling told me that Communists were in power for decades in at least 2 states in India. West Bengal which went from being the most industrialized state at independence to a total shit hole. Kerala which basically survives on remittances from the Gulf.

    No communism ever in India indeed lol.

    • All right you Indian nationalist dog, that does it, you’re banned. Hop on your elephant and high tail it right on out of my blog.

      I’m well aware that Communists ran some Indian states. Kerala has the best health figures in India, the longest life expectancy, the best educational figures and best literacy. The Communists in Kerala gave people the gift of life. The Indian state has given Indians only the gift of death.

      Indian neoliberalism can’t feed 550 million people. The malnutrition figures are the same after 15 years. Indian neoliberalism won’t give one family one toilet. Indian neoliberalism says the toilets and sewage systems have to come from the private sector. The food has to come from the private sector. It won’t happen. There’s no profit in feeding the starving, laying sewage pipes or toilets.

      Now go back to your worthless shithole Bharat.

      • Gay State Girl

        “Hop on your elephant and high tail it right on out of my blog.”

        That took a lot of guts.

      • Dota

        “Hop on your elephant and high tail it right on out of my blog.”

        ROFLMAO :D
        Classic!

      • Dota

        @ Robert Lindsay

        You’re taking a very simplistic view of a highly complex issue. While socialism did some good in India, it simply had no future. Up until Narishima Rao’s neolibral reforms in the 90s, India’s GDP grew at a piss poor 2.5%. HOWEVER, the reason neo-liberalism worked so well for India was because of protectionism. This is the irony. This enabled India to nurture some fine entrepreneurs and Industrialists whose MNCs now buy up western companies. India’s going to become the next poster child for neo-liberalism and smaller countries with smaller economies would be wise to reject this course. While it may have worked for India, its death for the rest of the third world.

        “”"”Not surprising when you consider that for most of recent human history India and China were both major civilizations with huge influence in SE Asia and in some cases Europe indirectly through Arabs.”"”"”

        I hate it when people make statements such as this one. I don’t care how glorious their civilizations once were, that has absolutely zero bearing on current geo-political realities. Civilization may impact a societies culture and people’s behavior, but that’s about as far as it will go.

  48. Julian

    Can Robert Lindsay and his fellow Black lovers enlighten the rest of us with pure Black civilizational achievements?

    Don’t bring up American music etc. I am here talking about what Blacks have achieved in their motherland in their native state.

    Did they create any civilizations comparable to even the Khmer or the Mayans or the Inca etc?

    Don’t bring up ancient Egypt because that is a joke to everyone except to Blacks and silly Negro lovers.

    To that idiot who compared Angola to China, let us know what were the indigenous Angolan civilizations and how do they stack up to China.

    • I see you are racist against Blacks. Typical upper caste Indian Hindu dog. Hates Blacks.

      We are not here to talk about Black folks. We are here to talk about your country, Bharat. And why it’s such a shithole.

  49. European Whites are good, civilized, progressive, forward-minded humans. They are the most civilized people on Earth. They are the precise opposite of backwards uncivilized 3rd World types.

    The more I think about it, US Whites are just like backwards, uncivilized 3rd World types. We are uncivilized, backwards, regressive, reactionary, primitive, animalistic and barbaric. We’re like a bunch of 3rd World animals. We barely even deserve to be called White.

    • Gay State Girl

      Europeans are the most arrogant, derisive people in my experience. Americans are much more respectful.

      • Ever been to Europe?

        In the U.S, we tend to get “Euro-Trash” coming over. I.E, people who strive to be American. Go figure that they are assholes. They’re just trying to fit right in.

        • Gay State Girl

          We actually have a friend from France who told us that upon visiting America she was surprised to find that Americans were more respectful than the French.

          Europeans claim to be liberal than the US, yet they are actually very closed minded and hypocritical. Many European countries are hostile towards religion and have imposed many restrictions on relgious institutions, particularly in Scandinavia. They claim to be great environmentalists, yet consume 3x the amount of tobacco.

        • Reality Check

          Sure, but American cigarettes smell worse.

        • @GayStateGirl:

          “We actually have a friend from France who told us that upon visiting America she was surprised to find that Americans were more respectful than the French.

          Just about every European who first travels to the United States, says something along the lines of “Americans are so nice and friendly! Even strangers ask you ask you how you are doing!” That wears off quickly, when they find that by responding to the average American stranger by telling them how they are actually doing, that said American could care less.

          Europeans, minus the Brits, are not artificially warm to strangers. Not necessarily rude, but not warm. They have to get to know you, before getting “friendly.” Same goes for the Middle East.

          The British are more like Americans. Go figure…

          Europeans claim to be liberal than the US, yet they are actually very closed minded and hypocritical. Many European countries are hostile towards religion and have imposed many restrictions on relgious institutions, particularly in Scandinavia. They claim to be great environmentalists, yet consume 3x the amount of tobacco.

          There cigarettes contain a hell of a lot less nicotine and/or tobacco. Not sure which, as I am not a smoker. The German government, for example, wants the cigarettes to be far more “healthy” for the population. I call that being liberal.

          If they are hostile to religion, so be it. The Catholic Church ruled the place with an iron fist for nearly two millennia. Lets not get into the various religious wars(Hundred Years’ War), etc. Then there is the issue of the ultra-conservative asshole Sunni Muslim immigrant population.

          @Reality Check:

          Sure, but American cigarettes smell worse.

          I made a killing in the U.S Army, selling American cigarettes we bought at the PX, to the German locals. We all did it.They would pay through the roof for American cancer sticks. I’m talking like twenty Euros for a single pack.

          Care to take a gander why?

        • Wade in MO

          “The Catholic Church ruled the place with an iron fist for nearly two millennia”

          LOL Do you think about these things before you write them?

          I’ll write something brief. Just look at the area she mentioned: Scandinavia. The people who came from here invaded Europe and slughtered monks and nuns. They didn’t even become christianized until relatively late. (starting in the 700s & 800s and not really getting total “hegemony” until a few centuries later) A few centuries after that, the protestant reformation spread there. Not even close to 2000 years. That’s just a chronological error. There are severe errors in the substance of your “iron fist” nonsense. I guess that not much else could be expected coming out of the US, considering it’s history in this area.

        • Wade, we’ve been down this road before.

        • Wade in MO

          “Wade, we’ve been down this road before”

          Well, that was a blatantly incorrect statement. I don’t see what the problem is.

        • @Wade:

          Wade, don’t make me pull my Papal infallibility card…

          In reality, I was thinking of the French revolution, and the Catholic Church’s links with European royalty. I should’ve “bumped” the number forward a bit.

          Ironically, I am an atheist who actually likes the Catholic Church, as least to an extent. There were many Priests active in the Worker’s Rights movement in the U.S a century ago, as well as many involved in the antiwar movement of the 60′s.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Berrigan

          I also respect their work with the poor.

          In my own experience, Western Europeans just see Christianity, and the old order of western religion, as relics of the past. They don’t hate it. Then just don’t care…

        • Wade in MO

          “Wade, don’t make me pull my Papal infallibility card…”

          I didn’t mean to sound like a prick, but I just think that idea is incorrect for large areas and time periods in european history. In some areas and times it’s true to a degree. The Catholic Church has done a lot of good for Europe. It has made mistakes, but what institution hasn’t? What I can see is that Europe’s most secular, modernist century, the 20th century, was also it’s most violent.

          “In reality, I was thinking of the French revolution, and the Catholic Church’s links with European royalty. I should’ve “bumped” the number forward a bit. ”

          I really don’t have much of a problem with royalty, depending on how they act. Some may say they prefer democracy, but look at US democracy: the rich are in charge, bullshit wars a being waged, and Sarah Palin was almost vice president. I’m not really a big French Revolution fan anyway.

          “Ironically, I am an atheist who actually likes the Catholic Church”

          I’ve become more agnostic in the last few years, but I still like the Catholic Church a lot. I don’t always agree with it, but I can say that about pretty much anything else.

      • I admit it. I wasn’t using much nuance.

        My views of the dark ages right through to the medieval period are that of an atheist, influenced by Carl Sagan, while at the same time holding limited knowledge of European history in general. Especially after the fall of the Roman Empire, and up until the early 19th century.

        So, I digress. I see things through that prism.

        Hell, come to think about it, I pretty much know about the history of the United States America and Central Asia more than anything. Weird combination…

        If you got questions about the American Civil War or the Iran-Iraq War, I’m all game. :D

        • Wade in MO

          “My views of the dark ages right through to the medieval period are that of an atheist, influenced by Carl Sagan”

          That is actually the view I had until a few years ago. That’s what we’re taught here, but I don’t believe it anymore. I also don’t believe much of the other history I was taught when I was young. If you listen to the standard high school textbook line, other than ancient greece, nothing happened in the world until the 1700s. I’m not just talking about Europe, I’m talking about the whole planet. Some people will say that the arabs did this, or the chinese did that, or something happened in medieval europe, but they never seem to go in detail or put it in context or anything. Some areas like Byzantium or (especially) central asia are a black hole for most americans. The whole “official view” on history needs to be changed drastically, and it appears that is happening to a degree.
          For example, did you know that there was a massive plague at the begining of the ” middle ages” that ravaged Europe for generations. Search the “plague of Justinian”. With things like that, I have a hard time believing that the catholic church or “barbaric” germans caused there to the some “dark age”.

          The thing that really annoys me is when people write things like “medieval China”. There was no Roman Empire or Renaissance in China so what were it’s medieval( aka middle ages) in between? Would anyone talk about Tang Dynasty Italy? I don’t think so.

    • I concur. It is for that reason that the last time I visited Germany, I did not want to return to the U.S.

      Anyway, this David Bowie song sums it up well…

      The more I think about it, US Whites are just like backwards, uncivilized 3rd World types. We are uncivilized, backwards, regressive, reactionary, primitive, animalistic and barbaric. We’re like a bunch of 3rd World animals. We barely even deserve to be called White.

      Amen…

    • johnUK

      ”European Whites are good, civilized, progressive, forward-minded humans. They are the most civilized people on Earth”

      LOL!

      Is that why they bomb and conspire to destroy nations and torture people including there own citizens under the CIA rendition program.

      Since the 90’s they have allowed Mosques and Islamic organizations to recruit jihadists to fight as a proxy in there foreign wars yet complain when offshoot of these groups cause commotion in Europe.

      European whites are the most hypocritical people on earth, fascists under the guise of liberalism.

      Latest example is their current colonial adventure in Libya.

  50. Movenon

    Robert, this has to be one of the best blogs I’ve ever seen on the internet. Just saying :)

    If you have time, I’d like if you blogged about the housing bubble in China.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/there-are-now-enough-vacant-properties-in-china-to-house-over-half-of-america-2010-9

    I really feel this will be the Achilles heel for this current Chinese economic surge… what possible way could one fix the situation or prevent total meltdown?

  51. johnUK

    Koran found guilty of 4 counts of crimes against humanity by US court.

    “THE VERDICT

    The Koran has been accused of four different crimes against humanity:

    1. The Koran is charged with the training and promoting of terrorist activities around the world. To that charge the Koran has been found guilty.

    2. The Koran is charged with the death, rape, and torture of people worldwide whose only crime is not being of Islamic faith. To this charge the Koran has been found guilty.

    3. The Koran is charged with crimes against women, against minorities, against Christians, and with the promoting of prejudice and racism against anyone who is not a Moslem. To this charge, the Koran has been found guilty.

    So in accordance with our courtroom law, and having the example of American law, the Koran must be punished. Some people desire that the Koran be banned. That would of course require another court case and more evidence, and is a very unusual request, especially in a land of freedom. It is not a totally impossible request. Around the world, certain books that are taken to be very harmful and very dangerous, for example, Adolf Hitlers book, Mein Kampf, is banned in Holland and in Germany, so it is not a usual act, it is not a common act, but it is something that could possibly someday in the United States take place, if the Koran was proven to be of that harmful a nature.

    We will burn the Koran. We know that there are people in this room and around the world who are not in agreement with our action. That, for us, is absolutely no problem. We live in America, it is a free country, you have every right to agree or disagree. As far as our friends, and I consider them close friends, as far as Truth TV, Truth TV is very much opposed, not to the trial, obviously, not to the aspect that the Koran is obviously very guilty, that the Koran is guilty of all of these charges, but they are against the actual burning of the Koran. So the actual burning of the Koran will not be live streamed by them. That is why we have the our own live stream for this part of the event.”

    http://www.doveworld.org/blog/2011/03/international-judge-the-koran-day-%E2%80%A6-and-the-execution-burn-it

    The best part carry out the sentencing of the defendant. LOVE IT!!

    • johnUK

      Muslims going ape shit in anti-Christ US/NATO colony of Afghanistan.

      Washington and Europe have long been anti-Christ nations who fully support genocide against orthodox Christians so they can bring about their NWO including creating that Islamic shithole on Afghanistan as well as that other Islamic shithole next door in Pakistan.

    • Amy

      Not in a U.S. court–in the Dove World Outreach Church in Gainesville, Florida.

      • Amy

        JohnUK–here’s another Quran-burning. My jaw hit the floor when she gave her address at the end….

        (Ann Barnhardt–parts 1 and 2)

        [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qeyrp-V3Jvc&w=560&h=349%5D

        [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LCLDjPNpf4&w=560&h=349%5D

        • johnUK

          @Amy

          God she was annoying I hope some white US Muslim convert come to her house a chops her head off.

          What bullshit she and other Americans like her European counterparts talk.

          The US is the anti-Christ waging war against Christianity, true Christianity not that anti-Christ pro-Zionist BS they have in the US

          The Koran is essentially a US psych-ops brainwashing cult manually.

          Anyway I hope the trend catches on in the US causing a real serious rift between anti-Christ Islam and anti-Christ US.

        • Amy

          “God she was annoying…”
          Right-wing anti-jihad bloggers have been falling all over themselves gushing over her.

          “The Koran is essentially a US psych-ops brainwashing cult manually.”
          Not sure where you’re coming from on that one.

        • That chic seriously needs to get laid laid…So much pent up anger!

          Maybe we could find some Muslim guy to do it.

        • Amy

          “Maybe we could find some Muslim guy to do it.”
          Or Lindsay Graham. She certainly is worked up about him.

        • johnUK

          @Amy

          Not sure where you’re coming from on that one.

          Since the Afghan war the US has been financing and promoting radical Islam around the world through there proxy Islamic states lead by Saudi Arabia.

          During the Afghan war US supplied Islamic material to Afghan school children to encourage jihad which the text books where later used by the Taliban.

      • johnUK

        @Amy

        Still more legitimate and free and fair than the US phoney “war on terror” closed military trials and the Hague court in Holland who kill defendant’s when they can’t convict them of phoney war crimes like they did with Milosevic.

        Pastor Jones organization also sells t-shirts, caps, mugs and his book Islam is of the devil which would make a wonderful gift for friends and family.

        http://www.doveworld.org/store

        Pastor Jones latest appeal.

  52. Gay State Girl

    Lindsay
    Where is your old friend Lafayette Sennacherib? I miss him.

  53. Religious freaks meet many DSM’s criteria for OCD.

    Notably:

    C. The obsessions or compulsions cause marked distress, are time consuming (take more than 1 hour a day), or significantly interfere with the person’s normal routine, occupational (or academic) functioning, or usual social activities or relationships.

    They elude notice by partnering with similarly afflicted dysfunctionals in church and bonfire communal activities.

    Still, I’d take one for the team and do her nice and hard.

  54. nazbol

    Iran and Turkey may become bitter rivals for influence with the Arabs, but since Turkey is Sunni, I can imagine Palestinians and Syrians etc. being more comfortable with it than with Shiite Iran.

    • More so than that, the Turks ruled over most of the Arab world for nearly five hundred years, give or take. They have inherent connections to the Eastern Mediterranean World, and are a historical power center over it.

      The Iranians likewise, have been apart of the Caucasus and Central Asia, literally for over 2,000 thousand of years, so a similar metric applies.

      • johnUK

        @Cyrus

        I heard the region was Orthodox Christian before the scourge of Islam.

        ”The Iranians likewise, have been apart of the Caucasus and Central Asia, literally for over 2,000 thousand of years, so a similar metric applies.”

        Explains what Brzezinski meant when he wrote this in the Grand Chessboard:

        “In fact, an Islamic revival – already abetted from the outside not only by Iran but also by Saudi Arabia – is likely to become the mobilizing impulse for the increasingly pervasive new nationalisms, determined to oppose any reintegration under Russian – and hence infidel – control.” (p. 133).

        I heard the region was Orthodox Christian before the scourge of Islam.

        Anyway their jihad is deadly either way Sunni or Shiite.

        I see no real leadership to combat Islam.

        Perhaps this guy should run for president.

        • Wade in MO

          “I heard the region was Orthodox Christian before the scourge of Islam”

          The Maronites are not orthodox, and I believe there are signifigant differences between syrian orthodox christianity and what we call Eastern Orthodox Christianity. Same with the Ethiopian Orthodox Church. Other wise it’s a good point. I always think it’s funny that people complain about the crusades, but never seem to realize how the muslims got a hold of this region in the first place.

          “I see no real leadership to combat Islam”

          Many of the nationalist parties in this area seem to be secular in orientation. I think they are a definite help. I wonder about Turkey though, especially in the east and central regions.

        • johnUK

          @Wade in MO

          Many of the nationalist parties in this area seem to be secular in orientation. I think they are a definite help. I wonder about Turkey though, especially in the east and central regions.

          Islam is a trans-national ethnic militant theology to wage war on foreign lands on behalf of Uncle Sam with Turkey other than Saudi Arabia being the worse culprit.

          I wasn’t talking about political parties in these anti-Christ vassal states I was talking about the anti-Christ political, financial and military elites that control the US and the western world (Brzezinski, Gates, Soros, etc).

        • Davey

          Are you a Christian fundamentalist, John?

        • johnUK

          @Davey

          Are you a Christian fundamentalist, John?

          No just stating facts.

    • Wade in MO

      “, I can imagine Palestinians and Syrians etc. being more comfortable with it than with Shiite Iran.”

      Yes. However, keep in mind that Syria and Lebanon has signifigant amounts of christians in them. I believe the chiristians in Syria are largely in favor of the assad government (which is part of a minority muslim sect) . Especially so after seeing what happened to christians in Iraq after Saddam fell. Of course, the Assyrian Christians in northern Iraq don;t like the turks becuase the turks tried to exterminate them. I hope that the Syrian government can withstand this current attack on them.

      • johnUK

        Iran, Syria and Turkey also have Kurdish separatists in their countries who want to break away and create an independent Kurdish state.

        More likely there would be a mutual agreement on the spheres of influence of the Mid East equivalent to that of M-R pact between Nazi Germany and the USSR.

  55. nazbol

    It’s pretty funny that Levantine Arabs, who are genetically the closest people on Earth to jews, also happen to be one of the most anti-jew peoples. I sure as hell don’t blame them.

    • Wade in MO

      More evidence that they white nationalist claim that we naturally favor people with similar genetic backrounds is complete bullshit. However, many of those jews have genes from the diaspora areas too.

  56. nazbol

    @johnuk
    How did you get interested and knowlegeable on all these topics?

  57. Dota

    @ Wade

    “I always think it’s funny that people complain about the crusades, but never seem to realize how the muslims got a hold of this region in the first place.”

    As far as I know the invasion of Palestine was a peaceful surrender. That’s benign as far as conquests go. The crusades were a hack and slash fest. Had the muslims been equally barbaric in taking Palestine, the crusades would surely have been cast in a different light.

    @ John UK

    You keep talking about how the Muslims will build a super state and wtfpwn the world. May I inquire how this will happen given that Islam today has no centralized religious authority and is decentralized and disunited? Not to mention being fractured along the lines of ethnicity and language?

    • johnUK

      @Dota

      May I inquire how this will happen given that Islam today has no centralized religious authority and is decentralized and disunited? Not to mention being fractured along the lines of ethnicity and language?

      You are so naive.

      Jews have major influence and power despite being a tiny minority despite having no central religious authority because they have financial influence and most importantly an ethno centric religious theology that binds them together.

      Islam is the same except they are large in number and even more ethno centric. One of their main weapons like in Palestine is that of demographics.

      Islam is essentially like a terror cells where they have different factions but adhere to a central theology of the Koran of conquest and expansion of Islam.

      And it is a FACT that US/EU/NATO and Islamic countries support and promote radical Islam in the Balkans and the Eurasian sphere so they can control the world energy resources.

      Muslims will gain because it is promoted by western intelligence and billions of dollars from Islamic regimes lead by Saudi Arabian business men around the world in energy rich regions and main global trade routes which also includes those used in organized crime like drug smuggling.

      “wtfpwn”

      I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

      • Amy

        “wtfpwn”
        “Pwn” is online video-game culture slang. It means to defeat, humiliate, or otherwise dominate someone (especially in a game but also in real life). To be “wtfpwned” is to be pwned so quickly and decisively you can only respond, in bewilderment, “What the fuck?”
        My 8-year old says “pwn” all the time–not “wtfpwn,” happily, but when he is doing well in a video game (or watching someone do the same), he will often exclaim, joyfully, “uber-pwnage!!!”.

      • Dota

        @ John UK

        So you think that Jews and Muslims both wish to fashion a world order in their own image? Do you think they are partners or competitors in this venture? I’m guessing its partners because you said that the west supports Islamism, and Jews are already the most dominant group in the west.

    • Wade in MO

      “As far as I know the invasion of Palestine was a peaceful surrender. ”

      There were battles in Syria and Palestine. They Byzantines had been weakened there because they recently took them back from Persia, but they did fight in these places. It is true that most of Palestine and Syria were left and Byzantine troops were sent to Egypt, but that is after battles were fought. Even after that, the Byzantines held out in coastal cities for a while.

  58. nazbol

    What do people here think of Gorbachev? I personally like to refer to him as Gorbashit.
    He’s got to be the most disgraceful, cowardly, traitorous political figure of the 20th century, who sold out the great USSR for a few photo ops with Reagan and that old, ugly cunt from Britain (Twatcher).

    • I think it was ok because he gave all those republics the right to self-determination and they exercised it. Note that in general, the US and the West will not grant the right to self determination to any peoples and they oppose separatism everywhere on Earth, even supporting mass murder committed by states to stop separatists. It shows that the USSR was the most civilized state on Earth because they allow humans the right to self-determination.

  59. nazbol

    Rob, doesn’t the US support separatism in Tibet, XInjiang, and Chechnya hypocritically?
    And didn’t Gorbachev’s actions lead to NATO expansion and the unipolar imperialist world order?

  60. Rob, doesn’t the US support separatism in Tibet, XInjiang, and Chechnya hypocritically?

    No, I do not think so.

    And didn’t Gorbachev’s actions lead to NATO expansion and the unipolar imperialist world order?

    Nations want liberation. That’s the way it goes, for good or for ill.

    • johnUK

      Rob, doesn’t the US support separatism in Tibet, XInjiang, and Chechnya hypocritically?
      No, I do not think so.

      Yes they do.

      Tibet and the Dahlia Lama have been on the CIA payroll since the 50’s which is well documented which everybody knows.
      Xinjiang and the self styled government in exile are financed by NED a notorious CIA front set up by Reagan with Washington being the only country to officially recognise Xinjiang or what they call it East Turkmenistan as an independent country.

      Chechnya since the break up of the USSR in 90/91 the US along with other secretly helped arm, finance and make organized crime and money laundering connections to Moscow and St Petersburg crime gangs.

      Russian TV even did a documentary on it called Plan Caucasus

      The self styled foreign minister for the government in exile is a NED scholar with the entire Chechen network world congress, human rights groups, PR firms, lobby groups, media handlers, websites, etc being run and financed by western elite factions.

      In 97 the first act of the new regime in Chechnya was to travel to London and meet with the big business and energy elite to organized oil development and contracts which they established a Caucasus American chamber of commerce in the same year.
      They also established with MI6 terrorist front NGO’s in Chechnya which most of the international and Chechen terrorist network operate in Britain.

  61. nazbol

    @johnuk
    How did you get so interested and knowlegeable on these issues? Are you a white Brit?

    • johnUK

      @nazbol

      How did you get so interested and knowlegeable on these issues?

      I started to research what was the real truth behind the Chechen war not the pro Chechen BS western/global propaganda and everything flowed from there where seemingly major unrelated issues are inter connected like the Balkans wars of the 90’s.

      Once you know what is going on Obamas foreign policy objective in Afghan is entirely predictable as well as the post Obama Republican presidency in 2012.

      Are you a white Brit?

      Yes.

  62. johnUK

    Dr. Terry Jones’ Dearborn City Hall Protest part 1

    Dr. Terry Jones’ Dearborn City Hall Protest Final

    • Amy

      Terry Jones began using the title of “Doctor” after receiving an honorary degree at an unaccredited school.

      • I need to get me one of those…

      • Wade in MO

        I think David Duke did something similar, although is wasn’t honorary. Apparently he got it from some weird college in Ukraine that is not recognized.

        • Yah, there is a lot of that going around.

        • johnUK

          @Wade in MO

          Dukes degree in History from the Ukrainian Interregional Academy of Personnel Management (MAUP) is real from a real private University where members of Ukraines government studied.

  63. johnUK

    Meet the Taliban Islamic insurgency that is kicking US/NATO’s ass in Afghanistan.

  64. Amy

    Several news sources now reporting Osama bin Laden is dead.

  65. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/osama-bin-laden-killed/story?id=13505703

    Great. It only took them only ten fucking years…Now can they PLEEEAAASSSEEE get the hell out Afghanistan, and stop wasting our money?

    • Wade in MO

      “Great. It only took them only ten fucking years…Now can they PLEEEAAASSSEEE get the hell out Afghanistan, and stop wasting our money?”

      Am I the only one who is actually kind of saddened by this?

      • Amy

        “Am I the only one who is actually kind of saddened by this?”

        Maybe. Explain, please?

        • Wade in MO

          “Maybe. Explain, please?”

          I don’t like raidcal islan, but I have to say that he was a great man. He stood for what he believed in against a country who murderous ways make the 3000 people killed on 9/11 look like a drop in the ocean. He was a symbol of resistance against the US and the Soviet Union. Who else can say they spit in the face of the two greatest powers of the last half of the 20th century.

          Of course, we’ll now hear about the “greatness” of the american troops and their serial murdering and sexual violence.

        • Gay State Girl

          Wade
          I heard someone say Obama did this to gain momentum for his reelection.

        • Ulterior is written all over this.
          There is no good strategic reason to announce this kill and frankly I see it as a vain domestic political strategy which values personal aspirations above lives of innocent people. If OBL had been killed in 2002, perhaps an announcement wouldn’t strike me as so opportunistic.

        • Wade in MO

          “I heard someone say Obama did this to gain momentum for his reelection.”

          I have no doubt, but that does not matter.

          Obama is nothing. Obama may have run as an outsider and someone who was a change from Bush, but Obama is not Osama. For all his talk of change he has not done that much. We are still fucking with countries all over the middle east and of course still supports a certain one above all else. Osama pushed back. Fuck Obama.

        • Amy

          “american troops and their serial murdering and sexual violence.”
          As compared to any other army on earth?
          Though I find the cheering crowd outside the White House (see CNN right now) saddening somehow.

        • Wade in MO

          “As compared to any other army on earth?”

          So what? So other armies do bad things. Who cares? If you saw a murderer, would you excuse him/her by saying that there are other murderers around the world? And why is it that Americans advertise themselves as some sort of civilized people and try to excuse the disgusting actions by their armed forces? The are supposed to be professionals and, more importantly, THEY ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS. They chose to go over there. These aren’t 19 year olds snatched up right out of high school and sent to Vietnam. These are guys who went in knowing full well what they were doing. Things like the recent murderers in Afghanistan or the sexual abuse at Abu Ghraib cannot be justified or defended in anyway.

        • Amy

          “Things like the recent murderers in Afghanistan or the sexual abuse at Abu Ghraib cannot be justified or defended in anyway.”
          Agreed–
          the Vietcong and the two armies in the US Civil War didn’t include sexual abuse in their repertoire as far as I know…I wonder what was different in those cases?

        • johnUK

          Ulterior is written all over this.

          Birth certificate fraud anyone?

        • Wade in MO

          “the Vietcong and the two armies in the US Civil War didn’t include sexual abuse in their repertoire as far as I know…I wonder what was different in those cases?”

          I know they each included torture, but I don’t know about sexual abuse, at least not against prisoners. There is always rape in large military conflicts. The people who get caught doing should be punished severly. Maybe even executed in some situations.

          I don’t mean to say that every last soldier is a criminal, but every last soldier is not a hero either.

        • Wade in MO

          “Birth certificate fraud anyone?”

          Who actually gives a shit? The founders wanted someone who was born here so that they would rule in the interests of the US. The currents presidents rule in the interests of global business. Bush had a legit birth certificate and he was an absolutely horrible president. It doesn’t seem to make a difference other than as a legal technicality.

        • johnUK

          @Wade in MO

          Who actually gives a shit?

          Americans do with 62% in a USA Today poll believing he is not a US citizen and with the release of an obvious fraud birth certificate it only makes the issue more prominent.

      • Now is the West prepared to deal with the ramifications of their little fortuitous announcement?

      • Got used to it, eh? Out with the old, in with the new!

        Nudge, nudge, say no more!

      • johnUK

        @Wade in MO

        Anti-Christ America/Britain is setting up Afghanistan again for the new Opium wars against Russia, China and to finance jihadists to destabilise the Eurasian sphere all they are doing now is eliminating any rival militant/drug traffickers so they have good open drug smuggling routes.

        The major Afghan drug lords responsible for trafficking heroin into Russia reside inside the US.

        http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100610/159377545.html

        Next towards the end of this year there will be an intensive media campaign of atrocities and massacres exposed in the mass media and a major anti-war effort to get US/NATO troops out of Iraq.

      • The Vietcong tortured the shit out of GI’s. Read Carlos Hathcock’s biography. Is greatest “kill” was of a female V.C, who would capture and torture Marines, within ear-shot of their own fire-base. In turn, the American soldiers would hack off the limbs of captured V.C, just for shits and giggles.

        As for the American Civil War…I would not want to have been a P.O.W on either side in that mess. Think Andersonville.

        • Wade in MO

          What I think she was saying was that she didn’t think any of the torture was sexual in nature. At least that’s how I took it.

  66. @Wade:

    It’s funny that you bring that up. That is one major difference between Iraq and Afghanistan. The Americans had an “odd” sexual notion and interaction with Iraqis and Arabs in general. Hence the butt-pyramids and such. The Arabs seem to have a real problem with sexual humiliation and sexuality, and the Americans really got off on rubbing it into their faces.

    In Afghanistan, that is not the case. Drugs are rampant. Sexuality, minus the occasional rape of Afghan Women by GI’s, is really not an issue.

    No, American soldiers just outright kill the Afghans, because they hate them. The Afghans in turn kill Americans, because they are in their country, telling them what to do.

    • johnUK

      In the Arab sub-conscious they are afraid of women that why you had the psych-op operation at Abu Garab which Israeli instructors were reportedly involved where they are humiliated when women are put in predominant position of power over them and embarassing sexual positions.

      They use the same tactic against Palestinian militants.

      Israel during one of the IDF incursions into Palestine hijacked the TV stations and started broadcasting porn into Palestinian house where they could not leave there home.

      E Michael Jones talked about this in a couple of interviews and in one of his culture wars broadcasts.

  67. Americans do with 62% in a USA Today poll believing he is not a US citizen and with the release of an obvious fraud birth certificate it only makes the issue more prominent.

    I do not believe that poll.

    • johnUK

      @Robert Lindsay

      I’m pretty sure Alex Jones said 62% when he mentioned it in this video towards the end at the 9 minutes 15 seconds mark.

      • The correct figure is 25%.

        • johnUK

          Jones got it wrong only 38% believe Obama definetly was born in the US while another 18% think he probably was.

          “A new poll today from USA Today/Gallup reveals the shocker that those who believe Barack Obama definitely was born in the United States make up only a little more than 1 in 3 of the population.

          The poll says only 38 percent of Americans are convinced Obama definitely was born in the U.S. and another 18 percent say he probably was.

          At the opposite end of the scale, 15 percent of those who responded to the USA Today assessment said he probably was born in another country, and 9 percent say he definitely was.”

          http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=291641

  68. Wade in MO

    You should like this Robert:

  69. David

    FUCK

    Conservative majority in Canadian elections.

  70. johnUK

    Senior Afghan military instructor during the Afghan war “Russian Spetsnaz were good fighters, US/NATO forces are worthless chicken shits.”

  71. Aaron

    OK, so now some europussies are whining about the bin Laden killing being illegal. I say, who cares? International public law is half a century out of step with reality. Public law is still based on war between sovereign states, which hardly ever happens nowadays. Even more: it’s based on war between European – civilized – sovereign states. Any self-respecting 19th century jurist would have laughed at the idea of applying European interstate public law to places like Libya or Afghanistan.

    Jurists are always legislating the last war. That’s what they did in the innovations to the 1949 Geneva Conventions concerning partisans. The Conventions were intended for World War II style partisans, nothing like the terrorists we have today. The 1977 Protocol was meant for today’s terrorists, but lots of states didn’t ratify it because it was totally biased in the terrorists’ favor.

    Non-state militias and terrorist organizations are now getting a free ride on international public law, which they themselves explicitly reject. A true international order will grow out of ad hoc agreements between militias like Hizballah, and states – the kind of agreements that Hizballah and Israel reached in the 1990s, and that limited suffering on both sides. Except for agreements like that, states fighting against non-state militias should ignore international law whenever it’s in their interests to do.

  72. Gay State Girl

    Nazbol
    A very interesting article about how the Chinese school system creates a cuture of conformity.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/world/asia/27iht-letter.html

    • johnUK

      @Gay State Girl

      I think this is an Asian cultural thing.

      Japanese society seems to be quite conformist as well.

      • Gay State Girl

        JohnUK
        Asian schoolchildren, as well as of their many upper class counterparts in the West, have little unstructured time so they do not learn to think for themselves and develop independently. Intrusive involvement on the part of Parents, Teachers, Counselors, and Coaches is the driving force behind the Peter Pan epidemic that plagues today’s young adults.

        I long for the good old days when children engaged in neighborhood activities. Nowadays everything is done under the watchful eyes of adults through extracurricular activities or specialty schools.

        • johnUK

          I think this is part of the paedophile hysteria which at one point here in Britain was huge with the secret paedophile living in your street press campaign and a precursor to the Muslim sleeper cell hysteria after 9/11.

          Brass Eye a satirical TV news show did a comedy show on the issue.

  73. johnUK

    Good 9/11 music video.

  74. johnUK

    One of the best 9/11 documentary videos.

  75. Amy

    http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2011/05/hasidic-paper-removes-hillary-clinton-from-osama-picture-567.html

    A Hasidic newspaper photoshopped the images of Hillary Clinton and the woman standing in the back out of the photo of the national security team reacting to images of the bin Laden operation. WTF?

    • Aaron

      Supposedly, a lot of ultra-Orthodox Jews consider publishing photos of women to be a violation of modesty. This is one of those journalistic evergreens.

      • Amy

        Huh. Ya learn something new every day. That’s as if they are doing them a kindness, in a way.
        It seems so strange to airbrush them out altogether, though. Perhaps they could paint [burqas? a big "CENSORED" sign?] over them instead….

        • johnUK

          They removed the other women in the background in the upper right hand side as well not just Hilary.

        • Aaron

          Well, it’s not just a kindness for the women. It’s also a kindness for the men who would otherwise be led astray – all those men out there who like to jerk off to photos of Hillary Clinton.

        • Cyrus

          I met Hillary Clinton back in 1992. I was a teenager at the time, and I would have tapped the hell out of that ass. Not so much, anymore…

          You could just tell that she was the type that liked to have her hair pulled, while taking it doggy style.

        • Wade in MO

          “You could just tell that she was the type that liked to have her hair pulled, while taking it doggy style.”

          Apparently she didn’t like giving blow jobs.

        • Aaron

          Bad HTML markup. Let me try that last one again:

          I met Hillary Clinton back in 1992. I was a teenager at the time, and I would have tapped the hell out of that ass.

          1992? Well, sure, if the choice is between Hillary Clinton and Barbara Bush…

          OK, you can laugh now.

      • They do good work, I’d like them to work on my next OK Cupid profile photo.

        I wonder how one goes about existing in a world that popularly impugns so easily upon your moral outlook. All the time.

  76. Reality Check

    Well, at least now no one can accuse the Jews of applying a double morality to shiksas.

  77. Matt

    Here’s some grist for the mill. It seems there’s at least as much insanity, perversion, venality, and feckless, know-nothing fundamentalism in the Ultra Orthodox Jewish world as anywhere else. It’s just that no one wants to talk about it because that territory is already staked out by antisemitic weirdoes. But here it is:

    http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/

    For a real “wtf?” moment, look up the Satmar vs. Cyclist wars.

  78. Gay State Girl

    So called Experts, Pundits, Conspiracy theorists are all essentially the same. They push this stuff because they know they can attract a cult audience. They know they have a market so they spout whatever their “niche market” wants to hear because they know they can make money and fame by doing it.

  79. Gay State Girl

    The only apparent agenda of the “new world order” (which Alex Jones et al are part of) is to divide and conquer humanity through extreme rhetoric through idealogies on from all over the spectrum. People worship him like he’s a prophet.

  80. Wade in MO

    Robert, I really don’t have much to say. Just read this:

    http://www.alternet.org/story/83459/why_i_agreed_to_be_a_bend-over_boyfriend/?page=1

  81. Shawn

    Phoenix, AZ (AP) – SB-1070 is having an affect.

    Illegal immigrants are boycotting Arizona by the thousands, showing their outrage with Arizona’s controversial new SB-1070 law by moving elsewhere.

    In the small town of Guadalupe , AZ, south of Phoenix , Manuel Renaldo is one of those who is punishing Arizona by leaving. As he loaded his stolen car with his belongings and family of ten, Renaldo told this reporter through an interpreter “It’s a matter of principle. I refuse to be supported by a state that treats me like a criminal.”

    The effects of the exodus are being felt by Arizona retailers who are reporting dwindling sales of beer, spray paint, and ammunition. Also hit hard are the states hospitals, which have reported a dramatic decline in births and emergency room visits. Tattoo parlors are in a state of panic.

    Renaldo told a reporter through an interpreter “He and his family are moving to California, which is a state that will support him and his family with dignity.”

  82. Gay State Girl

    Porn stash discovered at Bin Laden’s compound.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/13/osama-bin-laden-porn_n_861664.html

    • Regardless of whether it was his or not, there or not, judging by the carefully released reports of discoveries in bin Laden’s little shop of horrors, it sure seems like there is a provocative smear campaign underway. There is no reason to release this. It accomplishes nothing other than to piss off already pissed off Muslims worldwide. It’s become tabloid war. Wait until the Muslim world uncovers photos of Obama riding a bike with a girlie safety helmet!

  83. Movenon

    Seems Obama’s too busy recruiting illegal immigrants for his next White house bid to care about the economy… I guess if you get enough Hispanic votes eventually no other achievement will matter and you’ll be guaranteed victory. Guess the economy’s a lost cause in his eyes.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/15/el-paso-barack-obama-immigration

  84. Amy

    This is from a year ago, but it’s still worth noting:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/14/health/main6483464.shtml

    Study shows marrying younger women increases men’s life expectancy, and marrying older women has the opposite effect.
    However, marrying either younger or older men decreases women’s life expectancy. Women tend to live longest if they marry someone close to them in age.

  85. Bay Area Guy

    Hmmm, it seems my theory that Jews are shape shifters when it comes to race and whiteness has been confirmed.

    http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2011/05/15/congressional-candidate-dan-adler-calls-for-minorities-to-stick-together/

    On another note, this Jewbag Adler happens to be with a Korean woman. I’m sure Nazbol and Hacienda would gladly vote for him!

    • Gay State Girl

      Is he running in your district?

    • Gay State Girl

      I recognize some of those commenters from Mondoweiss.

      • Bay Area Guy

        Is he running in your district?

        No (I don’t know where exactly he’s running, but I don’t think it’s near where I live), but this kind of stuff just pisses me off. But if he were, you’d better believe my white ass wouldn’t vote for him.

        I recognize some of those commenters from Mondoweiss.

        Not surprised.

        You could say some of these Mondoweissers are doing what Jews have done with regards to blacks and other non-whites in the U.S. They pretend to give a shit about the Palestinians but are just doing it to bash Jews.

        Not that I actually have much of a problem with that anymore. As Wade pointed out, it can be a good tactic. Use the Pali’s against Jews the way they’ve used blacks against us.

        • Gay State Girl

          I’m not referring to their supposed sympathy for Pals, more about their blind trust for a multiculturalist like Phil. It’s quite amusing to see two completely idealogically opposed groups uniting over this issue. When they’re going on about Jewish power they all agree, but when someone brings up another issue related to multiculturalism or paleoconservatism, they go back to being at odds with one another.

    • DS

      Here in LA a lot of Jewish guys are going after Korean Women. No wonder Nazbol hates Jews so much.

      • Bay Area Guy

        Well, lots of people hate Jews, irrespective of them going for certain non-Jewish women.

        What can I say? They have a talent for being hated.

      • Wade in MO

        “Here in LA a lot of Jewish guys are going after Korean Women”

        I bet Amy Chua is pissed about the competition.

      • johnUK

        Nazbol is a South Korean?

        I thought SK’s where pro-US which also means being pro-Jewish which are one and the same.

        @Bay Area Guy

        For some reason Jews seem to be very anti-Chinese given that Jewish genocide against China like the Opium wars under the British Empire.

        I guess it is because the Chinese represent the largest power block globally that can challenge Jewish domination due to there high IQ and mass so Jews see them as a threat.

        And we know what happens to people the Jews deem as a threat to there ethnic group since biblical times some of which like the Greeks and Persians have been made into Jewish holidays.

        Former Zionist congressman Tom Lantos ran an Israeli based NGO which main focus on supporting political parties in China and China is always attacked by pro Zionist political assets and the mass media.

        During the 90’s there was a serious of pro Tibet propaganda films like 7 years in Tibet which just forgot to mention the eye gouging and other forms of torture under the repressive Tibetan clique and the constantly glorification of that bald fuck Dahlia Lama.

        In the 7 years in Tibet film they were not initially going to mention the Austrian explorer and Dahlia Lamas best mate was a Nazi and when the did they made him a sympathetic character.

        • Bay Area Guy

          @ Wade

          I bet Amy Chua is pissed about the competition.

          LOL! I can only imagine what her Chebrew kids are like.

          For some reason Jews seem to be very anti-Chinese given that Jewish genocide against China like the Opium wars under the British Empire.

          Genocide?! Seriously John, what is it with you and “genocide?” As harmful as the Opium trade was to China, it was not “genocidal” by any stretch of the imagination.

        • Wade in MO

          “LOL! I can only imagine what her Chebrew kids are like.”

          “Even today, in the newly “open” China, the idea of mixing with foreigners retains a hint of the unnatural and taboo for many Chinese. People of mixed racial heritage are regarded as exotic specimens. My two daughters, for example, are half Chinese. They both have brown hair, brown eyes, and vaguely Asian features, and they both speak fluent Mandarin. Yet on a trip as recently as 2004, everywhere they went – even in sophisticated Shanghai – my daughters drew curious local crowds, who stared, giggled, and pointed at the “two little foreigners who speak Chinese” as if they were visitors from outer space. Indeed, at the Chengdu Panda Breeding Center, while we were taking pictures of newborn giant pandas – pink, squirming, larva-like creatures that rarely survive – the Chinese tourists were taking pictures of us.”

          Book: Day of Empire Author: Amy Chua

  86. johnUK

    @Bay Area Guy

    Genocide?! Seriously John, what is it with you and “genocide?” As harmful as the Opium trade was to China, it was not “genocidal” by any stretch of the imagination.

    You are so full of shit.

    The British went to war to impose the Opium trade on China resulting in a population decline of 60+ million in the Opium war of around the population of about 400 million.

    They did not do that for any great love of China but as a cheap way to suppress the Chinese population.

    Britain and its successor state the US which is really just the amalgamation of British and Israeli interests are a perpetual genocide factory who want to establish an anti-Christ NWO one world government which they have most countries under their heel.

    • Gay State Girl

      “anti christ” are you serious?

      • johnUK

        @Gay State Girl

        “anti christ” are you serious?

        Yes anti-Christ .

        I don’t have time just now to go over why Britain and the US is anti-Christ but they have been supporting an anti-Christian NWO since the 19th century.

  87. Bay Area Guy

    The British went to war to impose the Opium trade on China resulting in a population decline of 60+ million in the Opium war of around the population of about 400 million.

    Umm, John, I think you’re confusing the Opium War with the Taiping Rebellion. And around 20 million people died in that war.

    • johnUK

      @Bay Area Guy

      I was just reporting the claim made by this filmmaker who is an expert on Chinese history.

      Interesting comment left on the Youtube video page about the actual number of Han Chinese and national Tibetan people living in Tibet which is more than 90%.

      The permanent population in Tibet Autonomous Region includes more than 2.7 million residents of the Tibetan nationality, more than 40,000 residents of other national minorities and 245,000 residents of the Han nationality. The number of residents of the Tibetan nationality accounts for more than 90 percent of the total permanent population in Tibet and has become the main nationality in the region.

      I will have to look into this Taiping Rebellion but was it not in large measure to stop ships bringing Opium into China on behalf of the British?

  88. Wade in MO

    This video is absolutely disgusting. Robert, if you have any illusions about your “great black progressives” watch 1:59 – 2:09

    • Hacienda

      That’s some pretty awful shit, by everyone in that video. But, why single out the black?

      • Wade in MO

        ” But, why single out the black?”

        Because Robert always dotes on how progressive blacks are. It was unfair to single him out, I’ll admit that, but on a larger scale, it’s just another case where white liberal fawning over blacks causes more “racism” towards blacks than they would have received without them. I think some people say racist things about blacks because they want to piss off self-righteous white liberals more than they actually hate or dislike blacks.

        • Hacienda

          They are evil in the post modern American style. It’s the use of liberal symbols as cover for greed and sadism that’s so very American, very now. The multi-racial, unisex happy face gun pointed at you and me, thing. “Get rich or die trying” should be America’s new motto. Enough with the Declaration of Independence hypocrisy.

        • Wade in MO

          “It’s the use of liberal symbols as cover for greed and sadism that’s so very American, very now.”

          You can see that a lot in the video too. One of the women basically said that WE need to attack THEM becuase THEY are dangrous. LOL It’s the “we need to kill them to save them” mentality where you can kill and loot because you’re liberators and they should be thankful that you destroyed everything they had.

          ““Get rich or die trying” should be America’s new motto.”

          New motto?

        • Hacienda

          “New motto?”

          I got other candidates:

          Kill, and kill again, and yet again. Google kill.
          My dick is big, like a nuclear warhead. But it’s sly like a stealth bomb, too.
          I’m American, I’m horny. Oh so horny.
          Fuck you, motherfucker. I’m American.
          Big Mac, It’s Irish Clown Shit. It’s money. It’s American.
          Because my niggers are better than your niggers.

        • Amy

          “Kill ‘em all, let God sort ‘em out.”

          “We’ll put a boot in your ass; it’s the American way.”
          (from a country music song by Toby Keith)

          “Yippee-ki-yi-ay, motherfucker!”

          “He who dies with the most toys wins.”

        • They are progressive. It’s a fact. Look at political surveys. Blacks are the least patriotarded group in the US, and the most ferociously anti-imperialist. Blacks are very cynical about US imperialism (US foreign policy) and they tend to see right through it.

          Sure there are a few idiots here and there, but Blacks are great on the patriotard question and opposition to US foreign policy (US imperialism).

          Now, we can go round and round about why this is. This state has screwed Blacks something horirble. US Blacks sympathize with workers, the poor and the oppressed. US foreign policy can be summed up as “Kill the workers, kill the poor, kill the oppressed.” US foreign policy is about getting behind the rich of the world and killing the workers and poor. Blacks are not likely to get behind that shit.

          I salute my Black brothers!

          Down with White patriotards!

        • Wade in MO

          ” US Blacks sympathize with workers, the poor and the oppressed”

          LOL I’ve actually know several anti-union blacks before. You’d think if they like workers so much, then they’d actually learn how to leave a decent tip.

          “Blacks are very cynical about US imperialism ”

          How many blacks have been protesting our current wars since the 2008 elections?

    • Really dumb Wade. Blacks, to their credit, are by far the *least* patriotarded group in the US. The patriotard community is all a bunch of White people, more or less. Blacks are very cynical about evil US foreign policy (US imperialism) and one Black sees through the lies that 20 White patriotards can’t see through. In the US context, Blacks are actually anti-imperialist. In fact, Blacks are the most anti-imperialist group in the US today. Good for them. I salute my Black brothers!

      Who says Blacks are dumb anyway? IQ only gets you so far. If Blacks are not patriotards, then they are smarter than Whites. If Whites are patriotards, then they are dumber than Blacks. Heck with IQ. Let’s look at real political intelligence.

      I salute my Black brothers!

      • Wade in MO

        “Who says Blacks are dumb anyway?”

        I don’t. Apparently they’ve epically duped quite a few white liberals.

        • Why are you so anti-Black. Hell, one Black person has more inherent decency and goodness than 20 White rightwing patriotards.

        • Wade in MO

          “Hell, one Black person has more inherent decency and goodness than 20 White rightwing patriotards.”

          http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_5facf0f8-6b62-11e0-a889-0019bb30f31a.html
          ” St. Louis man killed in game targeting innocent people

          According to court records, Murphy and three other people aproached Hoang D. Nguyen, 72, and his wife, Yen, in an alley at the 3800 block of Spring Avenue at 10:45 a.m. Saturday as they headed home from a nearby Vietnamese market on the city’s south side.

          The couple used the alley as a shortcut to their apartment, at Spring and Chippewa Street.

          Yen Nguyen told authorities that Murphy walked up to her husband, Hoang Nguyen, grabbed his jacket in the front and punched him in the head, causing him to fall to the ground. A second man kicked him in the abdomen causing injury to his ribs. Murphy then walked up to Yen Nguyen and punched her in the eye, causing severe bruises and an orbital fracture.

          Hoang Nguyen later died of his injuries……………

          ………Murphy was taken into custody Tuesday. In an interview with police, he made a statement placing himself at the scene. He also told authorities that the attack was part of the “Knock-out Game,” which he said targets innocent people, court records say.

          Murphy was arrested twice this month on suspicion of larceny and trespassing, police said. Prosecutors have not yet filed charges in either arrest.

          After the most recent arrest, Murphy was released from the city jail April 14, two days before Nguyen was beaten to death.”

          Despite my low opinion of patriotards, it would take a hell of a lot for me to put them on the same level with most blacks. The reality is that if this hadn’t been caught on video, every black would have done everthing the could to help cover it up and then every white liberal moron would make an excuse for it. Violent obnoxious blacks and white liberals have made any sort of economic leftism
          amongst the white lower classes much harder than it should have been.

          Of course, this story is just the tip of the iceberg as far as black go.

      • Cyrus

        Yah, it is actually the one aspect of African-American culture I really admire. The cynicism for the system in general. If only the majority of Americans in general held it, would we then see some real change.

        Ironic…

      • Cyrus

        “Patriotards”

        I like that.

  89. Wade in MO

    “Big Mac, It’s Irish Clown Shit”

    LOL

    “I’m American, I’m horny. Oh so horny”

    It’s “me so horny, me love you long time” and it’s already the motto of Vietnam.

    How about:

    America: because jews should be in charge.

    America: Niggers run the 100 yard dash, jews run the country.

    America: Love it or be intelligent.

    America: Our dicks are massive, but we still can’t see them past our stomachs.

    “Because my niggers are better than your niggers”

    Because my niggers are better than your niggers…..our white women told us so.

  90. nazbol

    Rob, how do you explain all the niggers in the US military then?

    • Blacks are funny. They are patriots, but not patriotards. They’ve seen to much American crap to fall for that. The military is a job. Even Black US vets I have met were very cynical about US imperialism and very pro 3rd world.

      Politically, Blacks are one of the most awesome groups in the US. Blacks get it. They’ve figured it out. The economy game. The imperialism game. They’ve figured it all out. How dumb could they be?

      • Wade in MO

        “Even Black US vets I have met were very cynical about US imperialism and very pro 3rd world.”

        I know white vets like that. I’m even related to one. He’s one of the most knee-jerk extreme democrats I’ve ever met.

        • The only uniformed group of “peace-keepers” who are roundly right-wing is law enforcement. I’ve known many ex-military Libs, but no cops. Police officers are all wingnuts.

        • Cyrus

          Police officers are all obsessed with power. That is why they become cops. They live in a black and white universe, and that form of mindless, simplistic, structured thinking bods well in the Republican mindset.

        • Well said.

          I bartended in a cop bar once. What a despicable bunch.

        • Cyrus

          I’m sorry to hear that. I bartended for a place that catered to retired cops. The things those assholes would say, I remember nearly a decade later. To think that the dick beyond me in the “black and white” views everyone in society through such a lends…Scares the shit out of me.

          An episode of Hill Street Blues, they are not.

        • Wade in MO

          I know a reitred cop. He’s a pretty good guy. Doesn’t think much of blacks, but I’m sure if you were a St. Louis City cop from the 1970s on you wouldn’t either.

        • They sure drank like fish.
          Not long after I left, I read where one of the regulars got in an altercation at different bar/club and I guess started getting his ass kicked, so he pulled out his service revolver and shot the guy dead.

          In the bar I worked, he was pretty mellow and I never would have guessed him to be the type to do that.

        • Cyrus

          Funny story…

          I’ve been harassed while going on long runs by Asian cops. I guess they can’t handle a ripped and muscled Mediterranean looking guy going for a jog. Either they’re insecure as hell, which is a given. They are Asian men after all. To them, I am “White,” and they have a pent up aggression over how many of their women we get. Or, and also very likely, they are closet fags, and deep down just wish I would rape them…

        • Hacienda

          “Funny story…”

          That wasn’t funny. That was weird and gay.

        • Hacienda

          “Police officers are all obsessed with power. That is why they become cops.”

          LOL. You’ve been strip searched and bungholed by a cop? You got issues, kid. I suggest a night out with nazbol. Could be the beginning of a be-oo-tiful relationship.

        • be-oo-tiful

          Sounds like a Korean brothel.

        • Hacienda

          “Sounds like a Korean brothel.”

          Korean brothels don’t have names. It’s just insider stuff for the neighborhood. And it’s actually civilized. In Korea, the neighborhood ho gets paid, and may eventually become a bar owner. In the US, she’s homeless, pimped and done, right?

        • That is civilized. So Korean whores are like community beauticians? Renting their (bed) station? Interesting. I like the concept of “neighborhood ho” … keep it in the family sorta thing.

        • Hacienda

          “That is civilized. So Korean whores are like community beauticians? Renting their (bed) station? Interesting. I like the concept of “neighborhood ho” … keep it in the family sorta thing.”

          You’re Latin right? I recommend this practice being adopted by the Latin community. Drop the Catholic nonsense, take up female ho empowerment. It will do wonders.

      • Hacienda

        “They’ve figured it all out. How dumb could they be?”

        They can be pretty damn dumb if you actually work with them on something that requires some imaginative thinking. I fixed a fence with my black neighbor, I had to all the measuring for the spacing of the posts and boards. He couldn’t quite figure out where to place the ruler when the components were seperated.

        Politically a lot of things are just handed to them. Black instincts are overrated too. I had dog once, she knew who the kind master was and who the mean one was.

        That being said, I think blacks are cool long as they’re in their own world. It’s sick that the legal system forces integration.

      • Matt

        ‘That wasn’t funny. That was weird and gaY.”

        Weird and gay on the cops’ part, certainly. But most Asians probably don’t have the creativity and style we’ve come to expect from gay guys.

        • Asian gay guys just get sex change operations.

        • Hacienda

          “But most Asians probably don’t have the creativity and style we’ve come to expect from gay guys.”

          Yeah. That’s one for the whitey. LOL Creative gaydom. That’s something you guys can keeping winning on.

      • Actually the Catholic church has elevated female ho empowerment to the highest levels of dogma. We see ho’s everywhere, barrio life is like some miserable Biblical Rorschach test.

        • Hacienda

          “We see ho’s everywhere, barrio life is like some miserable Biblical Rorschach test.”

          LOL. It’s confusing. I like my ho’s segregated and clearly labeled.

        • That’s the Asian in you. Everything in fucking order and categorized, clear delineations. The Asian mind is a calm ocean surface; the Mexican mind is a maelstrom.

        • nazbol

          @unmarried
          Are you more Amerindian or Spaniard? Amerindians themselves are technically Asian as well.

        • I would need a very precise scale to measure that racial basket.

          My mother’s family leans toward the Spaniard/Moor/European, while my father is heavily Amerindian but with dots of European. I’ll say 60% Spaniard, 35% Amerindian, the rest, Bigfoot.

  91. Read surveys. Blacks are the most anti-imperialist group in the US, broadly defined. They had the lowest support for the US Nazi war of aggression against Iraq of any group.

    Blacks and maybe Jews are probably the one of the most pro-worker groups in the US. Never met an anti-union Black, but I’ve more White working class anti-union retards than I can count. I’m sure anti-union Blacks exist, but I imagine anti-union sentiment is lower than in any other group.

    • Wade in MO

      ” but I’ve more White working class anti-union retards than I can count”

      That I can relate to. I think part of that has to do with the way that SWPL types have appropriated unions and leftism. Many poorer whites are resentful of that. I think if leftist economics issues were put on direct vote instead of being voted on by political parties, you would see wider (and whiter) support for them. For example, we just had a vote last election to regulate “puppy mills”. The vote passed, but the republicans in the MO legislature are actually working on overturning it less than a year after the election. The same thing happened with the “conceal and carry” gun law. MO rejected it in the voting booth, but the republican legislatures overturned the popular vote. I forgot where I read it, but I saw that the last min wage vote we had some counties in the southern part of MO voted for it in the highest percentages. At the same time they voted largely republican for the offices. Politically it’s a strange state. They fact that large farmers pretty much own the legislature doesn’t help.

      I think a better way to get whites to vote leftist is to show a whole bunch of rich white liberal snobs spewing their normal garbage for the whole commercial and then at the end, have a caption that says “Take more of these crackers salaries. Vote for higher taxes on the rich”.

      Whites aren’t beyond hope, and blacks aren’t the treasure you think they are.

  92. Bay Area Guy

    Because Robert always dotes on how progressive blacks are. It was unfair to single him out, I’ll admit that, but on a larger scale, it’s just another case where white liberal fawning over blacks causes more “racism” towards blacks than they would have received without them. I think some people say racist things about blacks because they want to piss off self-righteous white liberals more than they actually hate or dislike blacks.

    Yeah, I agree. I hate to say it Robert, but Wade is right. The things that you and other white liberals say is one of the major reasons why your average white American voter has become more and more reactionary.

    Economics aside, your average white voter isn’t going to support a party that consists of black activists and snooty SWPL’s.

    LOL I’ve actually know several anti-union blacks before. You’d think if they like workers so much, then they’d actually learn how to leave a decent tip.

    LOL, even wealthy black athletes like Lebron James leave shitty tips.

    How many blacks have been protesting our current wars since the 2008 elections?

    Thank you for this, Wade. I’m sick of this bullshit myth that blacks are somehow more conscious and anti-imperialist. Yes, they were, when a white man was president.

    Now that a brutha is president, they’ve grown remarkably quite.

    And to reiterate, I think the fawning of Robert and fellow white liberals over the supposed political genius and progressiveness of blacks causes many of the problems among white voters that he laments.

    Regardless of one’s political compass, that shit’s gonna turn them off. Rich whites are never going to get on board with progressive economics.

    But for the middle classes and below, if leftists would knock out this SWPL and fawning over blacks crap, they could do more to reach out to whites.

    • Hacienda

      “LOL, even wealthy black athletes like Lebron James leave shitty tips.”

      Yeah, but he also drops $200,000 for a club party. I’d be happy to take
      a below par tip for that amount.

    • johnUK

      @Bay Area Guy

      “Thank you for this, Wade. I’m sick of this bullshit myth that blacks are somehow more conscious and anti-imperialist. Yes, they were, when a white man was president.”

      How many Mexicans in the US protest the US backed genocide in their home country?

      Perhaps there silence is due to the threat of immigration clampdown on Mexican refugees and deportations of those inside the US.

      • Wade in MO

        “Perhaps there silence is due to the threat of immigration clampdown on Mexican refugees and deportations of those inside the US.”

        Or perhaps their silence comes from the fact that there is no US backed genocide in Mexico.

  93. Just got results back from the regional college IQ tests in Birmingham. The highest 10% were Muslim Asians and black African and Caribbean British students. The highest scorer was a guy named Asanten with a score of 138. I scored 132. Asanten is a west African black by the way.

  94. I have seen Unmarried Man’s pic. He’s just your standard Heinz 57 mestizo. Not particularly White, not really Amerindian either. Just another Mexican mutt.

  95. Amy

    Melamine-tainted milk, plastic rice, and now…exploding watermelons:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/17/exploding-watermelons-chinese-farming

    Forchlorfenuron is also approved for use on some U.S. crops.

  96. Wade in MO

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28110.htm

    “Bin Laden Raid: Operation Was Not Successful – Eye Witness Claims”

    Full translation of video in the article:

    • Dota

      Hmm I don’t know what to make of this. My roommate told me sometime ago that the Paki army downed a US chopper. I wonder if this is what he was referring to. However, I doubt their army would do something so foolish and so I dismissed what he said as military propaganda intended to cater to the Pakistani people’s overly triumphalist mindset. It is extremely important for the Pakistanis to maintain their honour and dignity (save face) especially since the sovereignty of their country has been violated. The man’s description of the US chopper’s explosion sounds like it was indeed nailed by a missile, however wouldn’t the US consider that an act of war?

      • Wade in MO

        “however wouldn’t the US consider that an act of war?”

        That would be on shaky ground though. What would the US govt say?
        “We were sending an secret unauthorized military force into Pakistan to kill people and the government tried to defend the people living there so we’re going to war.” Doesn’t sound like that would go over well with anyone.

        Besides, could the US really afford to go into Pakistan? And what would India’s reaction be to that? What would China and Iran’s reaction be? Or Russia’s? I don’t think the US could handle all that.

  97. Dota

    of topic, but what do you regulars here do for a living? I’m a lowly accounts clerk making $30k a year. What about the rest of you?

    • Wade in MO

      In between jobs right now. Have a job lined up as a math tutor once fall starts, but looking for something temporary until then.

      I’ve recently had luck selling rare books. I was able to purchase a first edition autographed autobiography of Helen keller for $25 and I now have it on the net through cosignment for $225. I was also able to buy a first edition autographed version of this book w/out the dust jacket very cheap (Note: this particular one is not mine): http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=1021339686&searchurl=kn%3Dthe%2Btragic%2Bpeninsula%2Bfirst%2Bedition%2Bsigned%26sts%3Dt
      I’m will try to sell it in the 80-100 dollar range. I really want to read it, but I need the money more. I’ve had some other luck too, but not every profit is as big as those. I’ve just started online. I have been selling to stores for money for a few months.

      • Wade in MO

        I hope to get a job at Wal – MArt:

      • Wade, what do you think of the Kindle, et al?

        • Hacienda

          It’s got to be crap. Absolute rip off. But I’m gonna get one.

        • Wade in MO

          “Wade, what do you think of the Kindle, et al?”

          I’m not a fan of a lot of these new gadgets. I don’t think that the kindle is bad for some people, but I like to have the actual book. Also, I don;t think you can sell used kindle files. Sounds like an attack by publishers on the used book strore industry.

        • Used Kindle files, LOL!

          I consider myself a purist but I bought a Kindle last year and I have no regrets. But yes, there is something special about holding a dusty volume and the smell of the paper and ink.

        • Wade in MO

          “Used Kindle files, LOL! ”

          Exactly. Have you ever heard of autographed kindle files either?

        • Reading a Kindle on the can doesn’t feel the same either.

      • Hacienda

        Arbitrage is possible between Ebay and Amazon.com.

      • Dota

        Math eh? College or Highschool level? What are your qualifications Wade? I have an undergrand in business Admin from York Uni.

        What about the rest of you fine folk?

        • Hacienda

          I got a degree from an elite university in Philosophy. I found out that there is no such thing as a subject called “Philosophy” and that an elite university is a ghetto for Asians, Jews and some whites who hate being white.

        • Wade in MO

          “Math eh? College or Highschool level?”

          Right now, the job I have is for tutoring lower level college math (ie the calculus sequence, precalculus, college alg, trig, etc). I’m trying to get another job doing it at the high school level, which will be a lot of the same stuff.

          ” What are your qualifications Wade”

          I have a math minor from the first college I attended, and am one statistics course away from a major at the one I’m in now. I am going to go the business route too though. As I’m part of the way there anyway and it seems like something I can get a job with. I’ve found places that ask for business and math, so I hope the math would help. Hopefully, I’ll get into logisitics or something like that.

          ” I found out that there is no such thing as a subject called “Philosophy” and that an elite university is a ghetto for Asians, Jews and some whites who hate being white.”

          LOL I have a history degree from a large MO university and found out something similar. It really doesn’t help when you find the area your interested in after you take your language courses. Spending the first year doing engineering and finding out how much it makes me want to hang myself did not help me at all.

    • Hacienda

      I’m trading on Ebay now, mostly. Powerseller.

      • Wade in MO

        What kind of stuff do you sell?

        • Hacienda

          Launch codes, hallucinogenic incense, radioactive rock from Fukushima, Ming Dynasty forgeries, blackmail pictures, Sunday coupons, vacation rentals with Thai bargirls, upcoming Justin Beiber tickets, autograph forgeries of Kpop stars. Anything. LOL.

          Really, I change product lines to keep up with demand. Right now, I’m selling books on Amazon, leather goods, and a couple of things I’d have to kill you if I told you.

  98. I’m a mediocre wage slave in the very exciting entertainment industry. I say that facetiously, of course.

  99. ski

    I’m doing landscaping right now.

    but LOL, why am I the one doing that instead of the unmarried mexican?

    • Wade in MO

      “but LOL, why am I the one doing that instead of the unmarried mexican?”

      Really. From your posts I gather you should be a plumber.

      • ski

        LOL!

        but shouldn’t you be eating spaghetti or cooking canolis or… or… damn I got nothin’

        oh wait…. actually… Nigger genes ruined you people! Romans were Swedes! You probably have brown eyes and bracchycephaly doncha?!

        • Wade in MO

          “but shouldn’t you be eating spaghetti or cooking canolis”

          Only my mother side are dagos. My fathers side came from teabagland hundreds of years ago. I’m kind of a strange mongrel.

          “oh wait…. actually… Nigger genes ruined you people!”

          Whatever you half-mongoloid slavic untermensch.

        • ski

          “I’m kind of a strange mongrel.”

          yeah I got some Kraut, Limey and Frog blood. Only my dad is half mongoloid untermensch– which means I’m only 1/8 mongoloid! Not bad!

          btw you never answered about the bracchycephaly you broad-skulled butthead… break out the calipers– if you dare! I bet you have a cephalic index of 79 dontcha?

        • Wade in MO

          “yeah I got some Kraut, Limey and Frog blood. Only my dad is half mongoloid untermensch– which means I’m only 1/8 mongoloid”

          I don’t know man. Didn’t they call germans “the huns” in WWI? I guess the racial backround of the huns can be argued though.

          ” I bet you have a cephalic index of 79 dontcha?”

          Not a cephalic, but definitely a phalic index of 79.

        • ski

          Damn! How embarrassing, I said 1/8 instead of 1/4. It’s my damn slavic untermensch side fucking things up again.

          But anyways, if you’re mom is Italian that definitely makes you at least 1/8 A-rab and 1/8 negroid.

        • ski

          “Not a cephalic, but definitely a phalic index of 79.”

          Nothing to be proud of– only more proof of negroid admixture. Us real Aryans (or Aryan mongoloid hybrids) are proud of our moderately sized (but not tiny) cocks.

        • Wade in MO

          “Nothing to be proud of– only more proof of negroid admixture”

          I’ll never not be proud of my aynchent gypshun heritage!!!!

        • ski

          Well damn! None of my people “be build’n pyramidz ‘n shit.” We don’t be gypshynz… I guess you win…

          On second thought scratch that– wasn’t it us Nordics who build the pyramids? Vee vas Pharoahs eint shizer!

    • I want to take up the art of Bonsai and shrink a Papaya tree to no more than the size of a small bedroom lamp.

      When did Mexicans become the official landscaping underclass? What happened to the Japanese gardener of yore??

      • Wade in MO

        “When did Mexicans become the official landscaping underclass?”

        1970s – 1980s, but I’ve heard the central americans are shoving them out.

        • “central americans are shoving them out.” Jesus, now there’s a race to the bottom to see who gets to use the annoying gasoline-powered leaf blower.

        • Wade in MO

          “Jesus, now there’s a race to the bottom to see who gets to use the annoying gasoline-powered leaf blower.”

          YEah, apparently they’re even cheaper than mexican labor. The past few years there has also been the phenomena of central americans illegally imigrating to Mexico and the mexicans putting up large border defences in the south. Kind of funny.

          Is it true that a lot of mexicans look down on central americans? I hear that MS-13 was formed by central americans were tired of mexicans fucking with them.

  100. ski

    Where I live, believe it or not there aren’t that many Mexicans and they haven’t yet completely taken over landscaping. But I do work for an “best of the best” landscaping company if such a thing makes any sense. We mostly do super rich peoples’ houses and stuff; and also sell potted plants to SWPL types. However, when I walk by the Section 8 housing I only see Mexican landscapers (wtf shouldn’t those negroes at least have to mow their own lawns if they’re getting gvt housing?). Those Mexicans may take all the negro lawn care but they’ll never steal the super rich and SWPL market from us.

  101. I imagine Central Americans are looked down on in Mexico, especially by the urban elites but I’m a little out of that loop. SoCal is just Mexico Lite and I don’t read the Spanish dailies but in the U.S., Central Americans and Mexicans look down at each other. Ultimately they are just Central Americans or Mexicans, pretty low in the global pecking order, but they still find this strange arrogance when speaking of the other. The Central Americans I’ve known seem to mimic European or Anglo culture. In fact, it’s not uncommon to see Central American parents name their children some strange name like “Tyler” or “Brandon” that proud Mexican parents would never name their children. “Pedro” and “Miguel” will always be with us.

    • Ok I will take your word for that then. You are more in the know then I am. At first glance as an outsider, you don’t see much of it. And they definitely mingle in the gangs here. Nortenos and Surenos have both Mexicans and Central Americans in the same gang, and no one cares. They only hate the other gang, not the other ethnics in the same gang.

  102. Uncle Milton

    To Ski:

    yeah I got some Kraut, Limey and Frog blood. Only my dad is half mongoloid untermensch– which means I’m only 1/8 mongoloid! Not bad!

    Wouldn’t that be 1/4 Mongoloid..? And that’s Russian right..? I don’t think the Chinese would accept Russians as being Mongoloids.. the desires of the dorks of Stormfront notwithstanding.

  103. Is it true that a lot of mexicans look down on central americans? I hear that MS-13 was formed by central americans were tired of mexicans fucking with them.

    Those were gangs in LA. Mexican gangs versus Salvadoran gangs. But around here it’s Nortenos and Surenos. Of course there are plenty of 2nd generation Central Americans in those gangs. Nortenos come from Northern California and Surenos from Southern California. I’ve known some 2nd generation Central Americans and any Mexicans of all types and no one cares what bit about that.

  104. tulio

    This is what happens with SWPLs take over the world:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110524/ts_yblog_thelookout/parents-keep-childs-gender-under-wraps#mwpphu-container

    Btw, this open topic forum is becoming so long it’s now crashing my browser.

    • Bay Area Guy

      @ Tulio

      LOL! I’ve lived with/near SWPL’s for my entire life, but even I never encountered anything this bizarre.

      White cultural liberals are seriously the biggest fucking wimps in the world.

      There’s a reason James Burnham called liberalism the ideology of Western suicide.