Walter E. Williams: Idiot, Tool, Black Conservative

The latest Walter E. Williams article.

A truly insane article by a typical Black conservative nut. This kook points out the logical fact that is known to anyone: What do the Top 10 US cities with the highest crime rates have in common? Guess what? They are chock full of Black people! Duh.

One would draw certain logical conclusions from these obvious facts, but a Black conservative is too much of partisan monkey liar to ever do that. As bad as Black liberals can be (and they can be pretty bad), Black conservatives are by far the worst that the Black race has to offer.

According the Williams, the logical conclusion that we draw here is twofold:

1. These cities are full of Black folks.
2. They are all run by Democrats, for the most part liberal Democrats.

Conclusion: Liberal Democratic administrations cause unbelievable amounts of crime!

I kid you not. Black conservatives really are that stupid. As if Black people would act any better under a hard rightwing administration, not that they would ever elect one.

We have an actual experiment to see if this is true: the South. All Southern states are run by radical rightwing Republicans. Before that, they were run by radical rightwing Democrats. All of those states have been run by Black-hating racist White people for ever and ever. And how do Black people act down South? Perfectly horrible. They act as bad as Black people do anywhere. Why would Black folks suddenly act better if a rightwing Republican racist White massa was in charge, cracking the whip on those niggas? You think is going to stop making them act up? Come on.

The truth is that those cities are full of crime for the precise reason that they are full of Black people. Once you get a city full of Black people, you tend to get a city with lots and lots of crime. Those Black people created all that crime, and they will create about as much crime whether they are under a liberal Democratic administration as when they are under a Republican white racist massa administration.

Williams is truly crazy: a Libertarian Black. Black Libertarians are even more insane than Black conservatives. About 3% of Blacks are Black conservatives. We know this because ~3% of Black voted for Mitt Romney in the last election. However, if you looked at the US news media, you would think that 50% or more of Blacks are conservatives. Black conservatives may be as rare as four leaf clovers, but the “liberal” media loves them, and loves to over-represent them as demonstrative of the politics of US Blacks. If you are a US Black conservative, you are almost guaranteed of getting your own radio or TV show or your own newspaper column.

Does anyone on Earth think that Libertarianism will do anything for US Blacks?

Libertarianism is what exists in the 3rd world. In the 3rd World, the state is almost nonexistent, spends almost no money on the people on social programs, and what money it does have goes solely for police and military to enforce class rule over the lower classes and the workers. If the lower classes and workers get too out of hand, you just call out the cops and army and slaughter them.

Other than that, the government exists solely as an arm of the richest sectors of society and serves to protect their interests. The rich and business classes get to do everything and anything they want to. The state is starved for funds because the businesses and the wealthy pay no taxes, and the elites don’t believe in government spending anyway due to “the threat of a good example.” If the state spends money on pro-people programs, that is socialism, and we oppose socialism. Also the people might come to like this socialism and might want to have a more socialist country. This would interfere with the moneyed interests of the nation’s elites, so we can’t have that.

Libertarianism is what Blacks have in Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica and a few other places. Probably Haiti is the best example because it is the most Libertarian society ever attempted in a Black country. You can see how well that is working out!

Over in Africa, we can look at Kenya, Nigeria or Zaire as examples of nearly Libertarian Black countries in which elites steal 100% of the money in society leaving the masses with nothing but starvation and disease. As you can see, that is working out just fine!

Most other Black nations are socialist to some degree or another, so it hard to find a Black example of a radical rightwing country, but the above examples are pretty good.

Libertarianism won’t do anything good for Black people. All it will do is turn Black neighborhoods and cities like Detroit and Oakland into Haiti or Nigeria. If you think that is an improvement on the present state of affairs, you are wrong.

How Many Blacks Are “Ghetto Blacks”?

Frank Smith asks:

Robert, in your opinion, what percentage of blacks are ghetto blacks?

That question is almost impossible to answer because it is so hard to define. I have had Blacks tell me that it is only 20% of Blacks who are ghetto, but it could well be more than that because so many Blacks are so maddeningly hard to define. The truth is that many Blacks have both Civilized* and Ghetto* components to them. At times they are what I would call Civilized and at other times they are Ghetto. Others drift in and out of Civilized and Ghetto modes. A lot of the Blacks around here are like that.

And there is the definition of what is Ghetto. Ghetto is really nothing more than Street Black Culture. Where I live, a very large % of Blacks are involved in Street Black Culture, especially the younger ones.

What is the dope smoking, heavy drinking retired Black schoolteacher neighbor of mine? She acts pretty ghetto, but she was a schoolteacher for many years. One daughter just graduated from college and another is now away at college on a scholarship. Another one has pimps and thugs for boyfriends, gets beaten by her lovers, has worked as a prostitute, and can speak Ebonics for an hour without my understanding a single word. She can also behave in a civilized fashion if she wants to and was recently enrolled in a surgical assistant program.

The Black girl next door is a Jehovah’s Witness, but she knows how to speak jive. Her best friend was an Hispanic gangbanger. Her boyfriend now is a good-looking young Black man who looks like a typical hood but is said to be a decent guy.

The Black handyman is a great guy, a good hard worker, but he is a real Black with a very thick accent. At times he can speak top notch jive and Ebonics.

Truth is around here, most of the Blacks act ghetto to one degree or another.

“Ghetto” and “Civilized” are best seen as “modes” that many US Blacks negotiate back and forth between, sometimes during discreet periods and at other times in the course of an hour or a day. Others mix both Civilized and Ghetto modes together at the same time in a mosaic. Some ascend to Civilized, while others descent to Ghetto. The same person may make this journey many times.

When Blacks are a minority as they are in my town (4%), heavily ghettoized Blacks have their ghetto behaviors substantially modulated by the presence of large Hispanic or White majorities, who encourage them to aspire to more Civilized behaviors while encouraging them to tone down the more ghetto behaviors. If the Black % in this town went up by a significant number, many of these local Blacks would probably act less Civilized and more ghetto, since ghetto behaviors seem to increase with the % percentage of Blacks in a community as the lowest common denominator rules and Blacks egg each other in a race to race to the bottom and there are few positive role models to aspire to or to police bad behaviors.

*In this essay, I use Civilized to mean the opposite of Ghetto behaviors. A Black person acting Civilized would display minimal ghetto behaviors and would be describe by Whites as behaving well within the context of what we think is decent behavior. And Ghetto, well, you know what that is!

The Camp of Saints

Repost from the old site.

A very nice, but somewhat dated (though the situation has probably only gotten worse), review of The Camp of Saints, one of the most hated books ever written. The link is on the execrable Free Republic, and the author of the review is a libertarian fool. Looks like Jean Raspail, the author of the book, was some kind of rightwing nut too.

They both blame “socialism” for causing such horrible living conditions, along with starvation and mass and early death and disease, that afflict the Third World. This is truly bizarre. Even autarkic Albania nearly doubled life expectancy from 1946 to 1980, though it was not very successful in other ways.

Almost all of the true Third World nightmare states are operating under some kind of capitalism, usually a particularly ferocious.

That socialism is good for life can been seen in the figures of Sri Lanka and India. Because India lacks Sri Lanka’s infant mortality figures, India suffers about 2.7 million dead babies every year. Those are some real numbers for you Black Book of Communism clowns to chew on. Sri Lanka’s great figures can be attributed exclusively to a mature socialist system there (Sri Lanka is a member of the Socialist International).

Everywhere we look we find the same thing, with some aberrations such as North Korea. One thing Communists in general did and do a great job of, other than a few disruptive periods, was putting enough food in everyone’s stomach. This is also something that capitalists everywhere and at all times have done poorly, ranging from deficient to just plain disastrous.

Almost every Communist country ate vastly better after Communism than before. Cuba currently has the lowest malnutrition rate in Latin America, and the UN says they have beaten it altogether. Even Costa Rica has 7% malnutrition – so much for Latin American social democracy. That Communism or socialism “causes mass starvation everywhere it has been tried” is surely one of the vicious and stupid of the anti-Communists’ lies.

Anyway, ignoring the libertarian delusional thinking, the review is a good one, and the Spaniard author notes that it is taking place as we speak, with boats patrolling the shores off the coast of Europe for flotillas pouring out of West Africa towards Europe. Boatloads of Kurds landed on the Riviera and then poured through the streets of Marseilles a while back. Those are scenes right out of the book.

The book has been dismissed as racist claptrap, but that is not entirely true. Raspail was non-racist enough to suggest that Western civilization was a cultural concept and not a racial one. I currently live in Greater Tijuana, now extending 500 miles north of Mexico into California. Only an Hispanic or the most deluded Leftist would see this transformation of a White working class town into just another Mexican city as positive.

I have nothing against US expats, but I never intended to become one. Instead the foreign country came to me, and nobody asked me to vote on it either – instead, it just got shoved down my throat and I was told to lick my lips and say thanks. The US-Mexico border in some important ways no longer really much exists.

Raspail conflates immigration with illegal immigration, the same way the Leftist illegal immigrant lovers do. Legal immigration to the US, other than refugees, is hardly a problem. We vet them very carefully, and few get into trouble. We need to limit it for environmental reasons, but other than that, the real massive damage is being done by illegal immigrants and increasingly their offspring.

Here in California, once a city goes over 60% Hispanic, it is pretty much wrecked in the eyes of any sensible non-Hispanic. We are even starting to see some guilt-riddled Hispanic Flight, with more well-to-do and self-preserving Hispanics fleeing Hispanic-destroyed towns for Whiter suburbs.

Over 60% Hispanic and a city starts getting dirty, trashy, run-down and falling apart. Crime explodes, especially petty theft, but really all types. Gangs are everywhere and so is graffiti. School failure and dropout rates go through the roof. It’s a chaotic and somewhat dangerous mess, but I guess maybe illegals like it that way, because they are just reproducing the Mexico they fled.

This unfortunately titled Usenet post sums it up quite well. What the policeman describes is reality that any honest Californian understands oh so well. He’s not hallucinating. This is basically par for the course in this state.

Particularly poignant was the destruction of the wages and lifestyle of good honest working class Americans, a devastation outrageously championed to the hilt by the entire US Left. It’s hard to imagine a position that is more hostile to working class Americans, but the Left has taken it up.

I don’t necessarily agree with the rightwing “illegals only come here for the welfare” crap in the post but the portrayal of a decent American neighborhood destroyed by Mexican illegals is gut-wrenching.

Mostly this is associated with the illegals and their nightmarish and oversized broods of children, who are growing up as an Underclass that rivals the Black one but is not nearly so pathological.

Hispanics, like Blacks, are splitting into two races. Blacks have already split and Hispanics will be next. There is an assimilated Black group that can be describes as relatively “non-Ghetto”. There is another group with a “Ghetto” mindset to this extent or that that extends tentacles to varying degrees down into the clusterfuck called the Black Underclass.

The Blacks that have left ghetto behind are increasingly disgusted with their ghetto brethren, and are for all intents and purposes just leaving them to twist in the breeze. I don’t blame them.

The same thing is starting to occur with Hispanics. In my town, there is a group of Hispanics that has grown up (usually) speaking Spanish and English and is comfortable in both languages. They tend to be lighter and to make more money, but that’s not always the case. They are just another group of Americans pretty much like the rest of us, and they are no cause for concern at all in most ways.

There is another group that, as noted above, resembles a much better behaved Black Underclass in too many ways. I figure these groups are going to split more and more in the future. Class generally trumps race any day of the week with anyone.

The illegals have just transplanted the poor and peasant societies of Mexico to America. Their kids have largely become the new Underclass described above. This group tend to be darker and to make less money, but once again, no hard rules.

When the book burners scream, rational people want to know why.

By the way, I agree with some of the commenters after the piece on the need to read the book critically, to say the least.

The reviewer also offers some interesting points on a uniquely Iberian point of view, especially in terms of defending Western civilization in Europe from various unwashed or barbarian hordes, and their disgust at the Northern Europeans for wimping out on defending the continent. They also lived under Islam for way too long, remember it well, and are not going back without a fight.

Contrast to the Continental Left that seems to think new majority-Muslim states in Europe will be glorious explosions of progressive expression.

Iberians and non-Iberians have some conflict, but a little conflict adds luscious spice to life, and those who refuse to act aggressively in defending their interests get bulldozed.

Rape among Western White Women: An Examination

Here we will look impressionistically at all of the cases that I can recall of females I have known who got raped in one way or another. I am using a pretty strict definition of rape here – forget the insane feminist daffynition. According to that daffynition, I have been raping females for most of my life!

Rape cases can be broken down into two categories: Hardcore Rape or Stranger Rape and what is otherwise known as Date Rape. There is some overlap, but Date Rape usually does not involve overt threats of violence and Stranger Rape almost always does. Stranger Rape frequently involves some sort of actual violence, and in Date Rape, true, hardcore violence is not common. However, some women are beaten and battered in the context of ongoing Date Rapes with a long-term boyfriend, and this complicates the definitions. It is not uncommon to see a bruised, battered woman who is getting raped on a regular basis.

Stranger Rape is much more likely to be prosecuted, and Date Rape is notoriously hard to prosecute. Almost all rapes by boyfriends (especially long-term boyfriends) and husbands fall into the Date Rape category. Nevertheless, Date Rape is still rape, and females who get date-raped often suffer consequences afterwards.

All cases below involved White females from the US or UK. Ages ranged from 9-80, but most were aged 19-24. The male rapists were aged 14-40, with most around 19-24. Four were White, and two were Black.

Case 1- Stranger Rape: A White female (aged ~80?) was raped in Los Angeles. The woman was a schoolteacher in Los Angeles who never married and lived alone. When she was an old lady, a very young Black male, apparently a teenage boy (age 14-16?), broke in and raped her in a brutal crime. At the time I was astonished that such a young boy would rape an old lady.

Case 2 – Stranger Rape: A White female was sexually assaulted at age 11 by a child molester-rapist. Her 11 year old friend was also assaulted. They had hiked to a lake and were walking home through a forest in New York State in a  area where there were no homes or people around when a White man in a ski mask (aged ~30?) with a knife accosted them. He fondled them and then ran off to a truck where he drove away. He was never caught. The 11 year old friend blamed my friend for it happening to both of them, and their friendship ended after that. This may more properly be seen as a sexual assault than as a rape.

Long term consequences are not known, but she has suffered from depression for most of her life. The relationship of the rape to her later mental issues is unknown, however, some say that her subsequent depression was not related to this incident. The crime is a very sensitive topic, and no one has been able to bring it up to her for a long time. In fact rape in general is a sensitive subject when she is around, and if you bring it up, she will usually get angry and throw some sort of a fit.

Case 3 – Date Rape: A White female (age 19-20?) was in Jamaica vacationing with a friend. They met some local Black Jamaican guys their age (19-20?) and hit it off with them. One of the Jamaicans offered to row them out to a nearby island where they could do whatever. He got her out to the island and then said that if she ever wanted to get off that island that night, she had to have sex with him. She didn’t want to be stuck on the island that night, so she gave in and had sex with him. I consider this a case of definite rape, though no prosecutor would ever prosecute it. Long-term consequences are not known, but I think she is over it by now at any rate.

Case 4 – Date Rape: A young female aged 19 is a college student. On New Years Eve, she went to a party and got very drunk. She ended up in a bedroom with some White college guy about her age. The last thing she remembers is she was down on her knees sucking the guy’s cock. After that, she blacked out and apparently passed out. Next thing she remembered, she was waking up and the guy was on top of her fucking her. She yelled at him to get off her, and threw him off her body.

As she was passed out, her vagina did not lubricate (she did not get wet) and he basically “fucked her dry.” The next day she had some minor vaginal bleeding from getting dry fucked. She was depressed about this incident because though she had had anal and oral sex before, she was technically a virgin as far as vaginal sex was concerned, and this is how she lost her virginity, technically getting date raped by some jerk. She had wanted to lose her technical virginity in an important way with someone she cared about. She talked to her friends afterwards, and they all said, “Guess what? You just got raped.” A lot of them also called her an idiot for getting into that situation.

For the next three months, she was unaccountably very angry, and she had no idea of why. It’s a good guess that the mysterious anger may have been caused by being raped. She also said she was tired of being called an idiot for letting this incident happen to her. I do feel that this is rape, but no DA would ever prosecute it.

Case 5 – Date Rape: A woman aged ~40 got involved in a long-term relationship with a White male aged ~40 that turned into some sort of abused or battered woman scenario. The man was quite abusive, had a horrible temper and ranted and raved a lot. He also demanded sex whenever he wanted it. She was often not in a mood for sex, and he simply violently forced it on her anyway despite her strenuous protests. She referred to it as “terror sex.” She may have given in due to fear of him, but it is hard to say. She had hip problems due to a disease called ankylosing spondiitis, and at some point needed a hip replacement. As her hip problems worsened, he stepped up the rough sex in an effort to damage her hip even further.

His behavior was complicated by heavy drug and alcohol abuse. Being in this relationship precipitated a period of heavy drinking and hashish use on her part. She got out of the relationship, but even now, she does not like to talk about it. Long-term effects were unknown, but there was a suicide attempt afterwards and she suffers from debilitating depression. The suicide attempt was related to the depression. I was unable to determine what effect that date raping might have caused the depression, however she has been wary of relationships ever since due to fear of getting involved with another man like this one who picks out vulnerable women. She thought he picked her out due to her vulnerability.

Case 6 – Date Rape?: A woman age 25 was with her young White boyfriend, aged 28, in hotel room. At some point while they were having sex, he took his cock and simply shoved it into her ass, very hard, and started pounding away. So he started having anal sex with her by penetrating her rapidly and violently without any lubrication. This can not only be very painful for the woman but it can also cause anal injury. At some point, she got him out of her ass.

She looked around for a way to retaliate. There was a champagne bottle on the table next to the bed, drained, as they had finished it off earlier. She took the champagne bottle and shoved it neck end right up his ass! It went all the way in, penetrated to a few inches at least. Wow! You go, girl. Then the relationship was over. She refers to this as rape but I am not ever sure if it is.

In the course of normal sex, a lot of folks aggressively try to different positions and moves on their partner without asking the other’s position. They simply do it without being asked. However, I think this guy’s behavior was most ungentlemanly at the least, and I’ve certainly never done such a thing. No DA would prosecute on this, and most law enforcement (LE) folks would even say that no rape had occurred. Nevertheless, the woman said that getting penetrated that way had been extremely painful, and it was not an experience she wished to repeat.

Conclusion: Looking around at popular news stories such as the Steubenville rape case and others in the news lately, we can see that the vast majority of rape cases fall into the Date Rape category. This stuff degenerates into a “He said, she said,” sort of thing, and LE will ask the woman, “Why didn’t you leave? Why did you stay in the relationship? Why did you get so wasted? If you didn’t want to have sex with him, why were you on your knees sucking his cock?” and other questions along those lines. Cases are not commonly reported and even when they are, DA’s usually choose not to file.

The Steubenville case was special because she was passed out cold, and it caught on videotape. Having sex with a passed out female is not only creepy and somewhat necrophilic, but it is also one of the most serious kinds of Date Rape. Cases are much more likely to be filed when the woman is passed out cold.

The fact that most rapes are Date Rapes means that there is not much we can do to stop rape in the US other than educating men to behave in a gentlemanly way and educating females about the slimy ways of males. Date Rapes are hardly prosecuted now, and that’s probably for the best as it is almost impossible to prove. I think a lot of these guys could use a short sentence at least, but in these cases, it is nearly impossible to even prove that a rape occurred in the first place. In cases of dubious evidence of guilt, it is better than no prosecution at all occur. Obviously we can prosecute in cases where rapes are caught on videotape.

Date Rape should not be minimized despite its somewhat hazy nature. Evidence shows that some females indeed suffer long-term consequences from Date Rapes, including anger, depression and suicide attempts.

We are probably doing all we can to stop Stranger Rapes already and I don’t see how we can do more without turning into a surveillance society.

There are simply no easy answers to this painful societal problem!

Poverty Is No Excuse for India’s Degradation

Truth writes:

Swedish Shit: Are you a toilet shitter supremacist and thus hate Indians because lots of Indians are not wealthy enough to afford a toilet.

Truth: It is more like people are disgusted by your Hindu culture because it doesn’t give a damn that most Hindu women have to shit out in the open. There is something seriously wrong with you people and until you clean up your shitty ways you will be treated like shit.

One of India’s most popular tourist spots, completely covered in human turds, every inch of the ground. Watch where you step!

This crying poverty to explain India’s problems is not going to work. I have done my research. Moldova has the exact same per capita income as India does. But 100% of the population of Moldova has toilets! 100%! Now there are some problems with Moldova as most of these toilets are pit toilets and there are problems with pit toilets, but even a pit toilet is much better than shitting on the ground.

The truth is that Hindu India is simply the cruelest country on Earth. If Moldova, with the same wealth as India, can afford toilets for everyone, then so can India. Indians simply do not care. Those people without toilets are low caste scums who screwed up in a previous life and now deserve to have a horrible life due to their sins of the past. Actually in Hinduism it is a crime to try to help them!

More Indians have cellphones than have toilets. So that shows you that Indians would rather have a cellphone than a toilet. This is what they value.

A toilet should not be something that someone has to afford. Toilets and sewage systems and whatnot should be provided by the state. Moldova is full of toilets and pit toilets that were mainly built by the Communist state.

I also looked at the Palestinian territories. The Palestinian territories are just as poor as India and 50% more overcrowded (in case people want to use some overcrowding theory of India’s problems). 100% of the population of the territories has access to toilets and sewage systems of some sort. There have been some problems in Gaza lately with Israel screwing up the sewage system with bombings and electricity cuts, but that is not the fault of the Gazans.

So really there is no excuse for the fact that 60% of Indians have to shit on the ground. There is no reason why they should have to do that. 600 million Indians shit on the ground every day because the people of India, especially the upper castes and classes, simply do not care about their predicament, and furthermore, the richer people do not want to pay one single nickel towards providing toilets or sewage systems for their fellow citizens.

This is really the logical outcome of the most viciously Social Darwinist society on Earth. The Republican, conservative, libertarian, radically antisocialist mindset logically results in something looking a lot like India. Every man for himself means you end of with 60% of your population shitting on the ground. If you want to see Ayn Randism in action, go to India.

A Hindu without Caste Is a Contradiction in Terms

Here.

This piece is absolutely excellent. There are indeed some positive things about Hinduism, but caste is certainly the cross that Hinduism has to bear. Modern Hindutvadis and Indian nationalists continuously distort the role of caste in Hinduism, going to the point of even denying that it exists altogether, or that caste oppression exists at all, that caste is an aberration that crept into Hinduism via the British or Moghuls or that there is a group called Arya Savaj that does not practice caste. All of these are sick, filthy, disgusting lies, but the number of Hindus who parrot them is stunning. In fact, the vast majority of Hindutvadis lie about caste. Everything they say about caste is a grand, gigantic lie.

There is no caste in Hinduism. This is so not true. Every single Hindu in India knows precisely what caste he was born into. It is a part of his identity the same way your name is in the US.

There is no caste oppression in India today. This is a favorite of Hindutvadis and especially high castes and among those in particular Brahmins. It is a sad, vicious, ugly, horrific lie. Caste oppression is everywhere in Hindu society. In fact, it is nearly a part of daily life.

Caste is an aberration that crept into Hinduism from the outside, via the evil British and Moghul Muslims. Another wicked lie. Caste has been present from the very beginning of Hinduism. It is right there in the Vedas. The Brahmins were derived from the mouth and the shudras from the feet. Later, the Untouchables were added by Brahmin overlords to punish Hindus who engaged in intercaste marriage. So if you married outside your caste, your punishment was to become an Untouchable. Pretty effective punishment!

Karma, an essential aspect of Hinduism as much as Jesus is essential to Christianity. Your karma is derived frankly from your caste position, and your caste position is derived directly from your karma in your past lives.

Dharma is another essential Hindu notion. Your duty as a Hindu or really the only way to move up in the chain is to follow your dharma or “caste duty.”

Furthermore, the Manusmriti mandates caste and cements in oppressive caste relations. Almost every single major Hindutvadi leader, past and present, has praised the caste system, and almost all of them champion the Manusmriti.

Arya Savaj is a group of progressive Hindus who have renounced caste. Much parroted about, this is apparently just not true. Instead, Arya Savaj is used by high caste Brahminist Hindus to cement upper caste hegemony. They do this by “reconverting” entire villages or groups of low caste Hindus or adivasis who converted to other religions such as Buddhism or Christianity back to Hinduism. As it is hard to assign reconverts a caste, obviously Arya Savaj does not push caste much. Instead of being a progressive group Hindus, Arya Savaj is a tool of reactionary Hinduism.

Individuals accept their position in the caste system Because of the dual concepts of karma and dharma. It is one’s karma or actions in a previous life that determine one’s caste position in this lifetime. The only way to ensure a better position in society next time is to follow one’s dharma or caste duty. So closely are notions of salvation in Hinduism tied to caste duty that a Hindu without a caste is a contradiction in terms.

Conclusion: Hinduism is hopeless. There is apparently no way to get rid of caste in Hinduism. Perhaps the way forward though it intercaste marriages. The results of intercaste marriages would be completely confused caste-wise and it is difficult to see how you could assign them any sort of a caste at all. While intercaste marriage could indeed effectively abolish caste from Hinduism, one wonders just what sort of Hinduism would result from this reform.

Is India’s Caste System Comparable to Other Discriminatory Systems around the World?

Aakash writes:

Robert

What do you think about the whites in America then? Segregation (the American version of the caste system) was equally rampant and if you ever visit any southern city (say Atlanta). you’ll see that the whites pretty much live in the ‘burbs and the blacks in town. The county where I live (Dekalb) is pretty much black and the northern suburbs pretty much white. White flight is the new version of the caste system. Blacks cleaning toilets in downtown offices and whites enjoying their MacMansions in the ‘burbs. So far, I’ve never seen a white janitor around here. All imported Mexicans or blacks.

At the risk of getting banned, I have to say that you are turning into a (anti) Hindutva yourself. If Gandhi (for all his deficiencies) was a monster, the whites in America are straight outta hell. Jimmy Carter is one of the very few great souls of this country and nobody hates him more than Whites.

Aakash, supporters of the caste system always say that there is caste all over the world, that is, there are class and racial systems of discrimination.

Surely, formal discrimination was horrible, but that is over and done now. Racial discrimination is illegal in the US. The government doesn’t discriminate and there are many civil cases against businesses every year for various types of discrimination. Quite a few of the plaintiffs win these cases, and they have become so costly for businesses that many businesses, especially large ones, now have policies set in place that are strongly anti-discriminatory so as not to get sued. There is still a lot of housing discrimination in the US, but it is no longer legal. Surely housing discrimination has lessened since 1970. The government doesn’t have the money to go after housing discrimination because Republicans have defunded that enforcement arm.

White people engage in White Flight because they don’t want to live around large groups of Black people. This is because when you get large numbers of Blacks in an area, they typically make a Hell of it in short order. So the desire to flee is actually quite rational.

Janitors area all Hispanics now because that is the way employers want it. I lived in an all White town for 20 years, and all the janitors were White people. It’s just that employers would rather hire Hispanics than Whites to do that job because they can exploit them better. Also after a while, the janitorial force becomes all Hispanic, and then the Hispanics discriminate against Whites and others. So the reason for the all Hispanic workforce is anti-White and pro-Hispanic discrimination and not the other way around.

The argument “there is caste everywhere on Earth” is always used by Hindus, typically upper castes Hindus. Almost everyone making that argument is a supporter of casteism. It’s a way of saying that there is nothing wrong with casteism.

Personally I think that there is no way that casteism can be compared with racism or classism in the US; there is simply no comparison. However, it is a good question, and I think we should put it to the readers.

Why India’s Lower Castes Hate Gandhi

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It turns that the great Mahatma Gandhi was bit of a monster. Or maybe more than a bit of one. I had heard before that Gandhi defended the castes system. That made him suspect in my eyes right there. Now it turns out that in 1933, the British attempted to put in place something called the Poona Act. This would have, among other things, set aside affirmative action style reservations allowing Dalits and other low castes positions, including top positions, in government at all levels. There were also some more controversial aspects to it, but let’s leave it at that for now.

Dr. Ambedkar, the great Dalit leader who wrote India’s Constitution, wrote the Poona Act. However, many high caste Indian leaders protested this Act, and Gandhi went on a hunger strike, vowing to hunger strike until death of lower castes were allowed reserved positions in the Indian government. What a monster! A wild raging debate was set off in India, and tens of thousands of Dalits and other low castes were slaughtered in communal riots all across the land. The communal massacres were so bad that Ambedkar went to Gandhi and promised to remove his proposal, and Gandhi then ended his hunger strike. And Gandhi nearly died in his strike.

And it is for this reason that Dalits and other lower castes hate Gandhi so much.

The article also notes that although reservations have been set aside for Dalits and other low castes at universities and government jobs, the large majority of them have yet gone unfilled. Further, although the Indian Constitution outlaws caste discrimination, effectively, this is not enforced, and India’s courts which are filled with high caste Indians refuse to enforce the laws.

The article states that high castes are only 10-15% of the population and implies that lower or low castes are 85-90% of the population. Are those figures true. They seem on the low side for high castes and on the high side for low castes, but I suppose it is a matter of definition.

PS Countercurrents is a superb publication with a lot of progressive focus on Indian issues.

An Indian Woman Speaks Out

I received another letter from an Indian, this time from a low caste Indian woman. She is highly intelligent, and I really enjoyed this missive. As you can see, not everyone in this country is a bad person. But the culture is basically evil, and a culture like that will warp and twist the best of men. The culture is the hands and the people are the clay. The quality of the clay matters little in the hands of a master potter.

I think this woman is a very good person though. I have met some other basically good Indians. They start off with the usual bluster about “India the greatest country on Earth,” and then pretty soon, it’s, “Hey Bob, do you think you could get me into the US somehow. I will do anything to get out of this Hellhole.” It is nearly as sad as it is humorous.

I learned some interesting things from this article. One of them is what a total scumbag Mahatma Gandhi was! Vowing to hunger fast to the death if lower caste Indians were allowed high positions in the colonial government. My God, what a monster this man was!

My name is [removed], and I am an Indian female. I read your article, India Is a Shithole and found it very true. My English is not very good; I hope you understand what I am trying to say. There is no doubt that living in India is a complete nightmare, but the problem is one lone person cannot change the whole country. When Indians fought for their freedom, their intentions were just to rule over the country and not think about the welfare of its people.

Three important things you are missing in your article:

First is casteism. People are extremely snide here, and they want any damn shitty reason so they can prove they are superior to their neighbors. It has been centuries since this caste practice started and still it is so prevalent in society.

If law-makers had not introduced a quota system for lower caste people, then upper caste people would have never let them do any jobs. Imagine a country where half of the population is living and treated as slaves. Even pre-independence when Britishers tried to introduce lower caste leaders in their administrative system, leaders like M K Gandhi vowed to fast til death to annul this rule.

I belong to one of the lowest caste, the Chamars, and my parents (born 50 years ago around 1960) told me how they struggled to get food, education and jobs where people always judged them and mistreated them because of their caste eg. teachers refused to teach them. In almost the whole country, inter-caste marriages are not accepted, and honor-killing is rampant. Though casteism is pronounced illegal in the Constitution, it is widespread. Upper caste people consider lower-caste people untouchable and refuse to even drink water from the same tap as their lessers. Though this practice is slowly fading, it has a long way to go.

Second is religion. Though India boasts about ‘unity in diversity’, the truth there are more threats from internal elements than from outside countries. The Babri Masjid riot in Ayodhya, Godhra riots etc an indication of perennial conflicts between Hindu-Muslims. Both religions are extremely supercilious and teach hatred for other religions, though on the surface people of respective religions deny that this is true. All of the ugly things and illegal activities here happen in the name of religion and not just illiterate but even educated people believe in them. There is hardly any difference between illiterate and literate people here – each is as stupid as the other.

You will be shocked to know what stupid things people do here in the name of religion and culture. People are very intolerant towards anything against their religion. Politicians make sure this religion and caste difference never goes away so they can divide and rule easily. You will see people uniting and fighting against anything they consider an insult to their religion, but they will never unite and stand against issues like corruption.

Third is the oppression of women. If I try to described the condition of women here, words will fall short. Since childhood, a girl’s self-respect is destroyed, she is taught to bear everything from assault to incest to beatings to honor-killing just because she is born a female. I have seen how men do not have the tiniest respect or concern for women, not even as another human.

Abuses such as bride-burning (killing for dowry), rape, ruining a woman’s face by acid tossing, etc. are very common here. No one goes after the attackers; instead the victim is seen as a disgrace and she is blamed with the accusation that her character is not good. Because of so much social stigma against women, women do not come forward and raise their voices. Out here men only see a woman as an animal not even as a human, and it’s everywhere – there is no difference between educated and illiterate men on the Woman Question.

Although men out here are crazy towards White women. If you just type ‘women abuse in India’ in Google, you will know what I am talking about. This gender difference is lesser among the higher classes, but the majority of population here is poor and illiterate.

There are many people like me who want to get out of here and lead a respectful life, but maybe it’s our bad luck that we born here. That is why rich people are leaving the country and settling in developed countries. So, please do not generalize that here everyone is same.

Robert, those people who have been abusing you in their comments and trying to make you wrong, they also know that if given a chance to settle down in a developed country, they won’t hesitate to take it. The problem is they are too cowardly and stubborn to accept the facts and do not want to raise even a finger to change the existing conditions.

India’s Silent War Against the Naxalites

Shocking video on India’s war against Maoist rebels. The war pits the Indian state against adivasis, the original, Australoid people of India. The adivasis live in the forests of India’s east.

A telling scene near the beginning of the video shows a refugee camp for adivasis who had been moved out of the jungle to make way for mining. They have been in the camp for many years, possibly decades. Generations have grown up there. Although the government promised them all jobs after moving them to the camp, after decades, they do not yet have one job. They have nothing.

Furthermore, there is extreme discrimination against adivasis in their new home. They say that when they go to school, the other students treat them like crap because they are adivasis. When they go to government offices, they are made to wait in line forever and never served because they are adivasis. This systematic racism and discrimination has been going on for as long as there has been an Indian state, since 1947. And it was going on forever before that. There really doesn’t seem to be any hope for India. If India can’t even begin to deal with its racism problem in 65 years, what hope is there that they will ever deal with it?

The Indian government is trying to force the adivasis to move out of the jungle again to make way for more mines. If they don’t leave, the government comes in and destroys their villages and then moves them to refugee camps that are guarded by the security forces. Once again, the government has promised to give the relocated adivasis jobs. They won’t get one job. The promises are obviously as empty as they were in previous decades. The Indian state is obviously unable to serve its own people.

Almost all of the money from the mining will go to a few huge companies like the Tata Group. It will be used to enrich the growing class of millionaires and billionaires in New Delhi and other huge cities.While half of India starves, a new class of super rich live kings in India’s biggest cities.

Since independence, India has refused to help the adivasi people. It refuses to provide them with health services, schools, roads or other forms of development. It’s systematic neglect, and it’s deliberate.

Recently, some schools were built, but as is the case in much of rural India, the vast majority of the time, the teachers never even showed up. The teachers would not show up a single day out of the year; instead, they would stay home and collect their salaries. Since the schools were never used anyway, the security forces began storing weapons there. Then the Maoists began blowing up the schools as they were used as bases for the security forces. The government then began a propaganda campaign saying that the “Maoists are blowing up schools.”

If a village is suspected of supporting Maoists, the security forces come in, steal food and animals, beat and kill people, rape women, destroy crops and homes, etc. Maoists are typically not even arrested. They are murdered in “encounter killings.” The Maoists are surrounded or stopped as they are going about their business. Trapped, the Maoists surrender. Then the state takes them out into the forest and executes them, afterwards putting a gun in their hand. Most Maoists are killed in this way, especially top leaders.

The Maoists themselves have been heavy handed, attacking villages and villagers who do not support them, accusing them of supporting the government. They have also instituted local justice systems which are heavy handed as can be seen in the video where men are beaten merely for having consumed alcohol.

The adivasis were very interesting looking people. A lot of people think they are ugly, but I tried to adjust my mind to their appearance, and after a while, I began to see many of the men as handsome and many of the women as pretty. Seeing beauty in a race is often a matter of adjusting your mind to their specific looks. There is probably quite a bit of beauty in most if not all human races. Human races have been selecting sexually for beauty, especially in females, for quite some time now. The human race is generally an attractive species, and most human races do their part to help make us a nice looking species of Homo.

This war looks like it is going to go on for a long time. The Maoists need to move beyond the adivasis and start recruiting among the Dalits and other low caste Hindus. They have not yet had good luck at this. In addition, they need to move beyond the jungles and into towns and cities to wage urban warfare. They need to recruit in urban slums and among university students and workers. Things have not gone too well in these respects. Further, they are getting hit hard by spies and government surveillance of rebel cellphones.

India is so hopeless and ruined that I think these Maoists may be the only hope for the development of the country. Perhaps they can wage a  Cultural Revolution and help to rid the country of its various social poisons.