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Gypsies in Romania

This is an excellent video about Gypsies in Romania, narrated by a young Romanian man who absolutely hates Gypsies, as do most Romanians. A number of commenters below chime in from various countries in the region to report that everything the narrator says about Gypsies is true based on their experience.

Gypsies in Romania are somehow getting ahold of some serious money, apparently mostly through crime, scams and various schemes. Almost no Gypsies go to school, even though there are slots allotted to them. And when they do go to school, they almost always do very poorly. Despite having satellite dishes, luxury cars and gold chains, they live in the most sickening hovels which they refuse to fix up. They even shit in the open just like people in India since they often don’t bother to build a toilet in their homes.

Their homes quickly become horribly overcrowded with all of their relatives and hangers-on. They start having sex at age 12-14 and the females spend most of their lives pumping out one baby after another. They openly refuse to work (85% are unemployed) and instead choose to live off the welfare system, beg, steal, con or run various scams. Many Gypsies for some reason never learn to speak, read or write Romanian properly. They send their children off at a very early age to beg for a living. The adults then collect the wages that the children earn from begging, which can be a considerable sum.

Many Romanian Gypsies are now migrating to other parts of the EU because those countries are richer and there is more to steal. In France, they gave the Gypsies $1000 to take off and start a new life. They immediately blew the money and then they were back in France. In other cases, the Gypsies were given a pig to start a farm. The Gypsies quickly killed the pig and then they were right back in France. Gypsies often squat in legitimate buildings. No matter what kind of a building it was beforehand, the Gypsies inevitably trash the place.

Perhaps the most disturbing revelation of all was when the narrator discussed on Gypsy Organized Crime steals houses from Romanians with the assistance of the Attorney General, the judges, the cops and all of the other authorities, all paid off with Gypsy stolen wealth. The Gypsies come into town and try force residents to leave by harassing them, throwing things at them, shitting on their doorstep, urinating on their walls, vandalizing their place, threatening them, etc.

They try to get the residents to sell the place for, say, 5% of the value of the home. Somehow the Gypsies are able, and I am not sure how, to get the residents to leave. Then they buy the home at 5% of the value and sell it at 100% of the value. Many crimes are committed along the way, and the bribed authorities let the Gypsies get away with all of it. I have heard that in Hungary, 85% of property crime (theft) is the result of Gypsies. The way that Gypsy Organized Crime is allowed to run amok in Romania is truly depressing and it suggests that with the return of capitalism, Romania has turned into a Third World nation. Congratulations, revolutionaries.

You will see many similarities between Gypsies and US ghetto Blacks, in fact, it is said that Gypsies are “the thieving ghetto Blacks of Europe.” However I dare say that Gypsies are vastly worse than Black people in the US. I make that comparison because it is true that Black people cause quite a few problems in my country. However, this is nothing compared to an overt criminal culture that the Gypsies lead.

Many Black people in the US are not dedicated to living a career criminal existence. Blacks do not ordinarily destroy all their homes and neighborhoods, nor do they shit in the streets and fields. Many to most Blacks are in school, at least until age 14-16 or so. Quite a few Blacks do well in school, and many go on to college, where quite a few even graduate and go off to work in various professions and good jobs. Blacks have not yet formed organized crime gangs that have paid off cops, DA’s, judges and other authorities. Blacks do not send their children out to beg in the streets all day and then live off the earnings.

Many Black people are in fact employed; indeed, most are employed. Black people in the US speak English well and generally learn to read and write it at least passably. Black criminal gangs do not, thank God, force legitimate homeowners to move so they can buy the homes at 5% of value, committing many crimes along the way. While some Blacks have many children, the Black fertility rate in the US is not particularly high. Blacks are not responsible for 85% of the theft in the US. There is a vast Black middle class and even a small upper class that is relatively to highly well-behaved and is far removed from ghetto culture.

It’s hard to say what to do with Gypsies. It’s anti-human to kill them, although that is frequently proposed. Hitler already tried that. Many countries such as France are throwing them out of the country (they are immigrants after all). This is a great idea; however, every time a country does this, the Left screams and hollers about racism. In fact, anytime anyone criticizes the deplorable behavior of the Gypsies, they are called racists. Considering how horrific Gypsies act, it’s hardly racism to dislike them. It would simply be a normal reaction. At the end of the day, there really is nothing to be done with these people who are obviously a criminal race and a plague upon nations.

One wonders how or why Gypsies have adopted this parasitic and criminal lifestyle. It appears to be cultural, but the roots of this hostile and anti-human culture are uncertain. They came from India 1000 years ago, but what this explains is unknown. One thing is for certain is that it is not due to their genes.

It is true that some small number of Gypsies are well behaved and believe it or not are not even criminals. A few have gone to college and gotten university degrees. There are even Gypsy university professors. These good actors should not be forced to bear the brunt of racist hatred against the Gypsy people, however well deserved it might be, as they are acting as responsible citizens.

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Two New Caucasian Races Created

The Races of Man post is still being updated. Recently, I spit out the Hunza and Tajik from the West Asian race and created two new races based on them. The relevant paper is here.

The first grouping includes the Hunza of the Karokorams, the Bartangi of the Pamirs and the Roma or Gypsies of Europe. So we can see that the Roma have an origin in the Himalayas-Pamir region of far northern Pakistan and Tajikistan. The same paper points out a close relationship with the Jatt caste of India and Pakistan, which includes many Punjabis, and the Roma.

The second grouping is made of Tajiks, the Shugnan of the Pamirs, the Arabs of Bukhara, and three groups from India – the Kallar of Kerala, the Sourashtran of Tamil Nadu, and the Yadhava of various places.

This is all in the general Himalayan- Pamir – Karokoram – Kashmir region, an area of towering peaks and isolated valleys. A high degree of genetic differentiation is logical here.

From the paper:

The Sinte Romani, or Gypsies, group with the Hunza and Bartangi (from the Pamir region of Central Asia) populations in our tree. This finding is primarily due to the M124 haplotype, which is present at high frequency in all three populations. M124 is not found in Eastern Europe (17),

Cluster VI includes the Sinte Romani (Gypsies), Hunza (a northern Pakistani population speaking a divergent language, Burushaski), and Bartangi (Pamir region) populations. Cluster VII includes the Indian populations (Kallar, Sourashtran, and Yadhava), as well as those Central Asian populations closest to them geographically (Tajik/Dushanbe, Shugnan, Tajik/Samarkand, and Arab/Bukhara).

An international collaboration led by Manir Ali of the Leeds Institute of Molecular Medicine, first identified the ‘Jatt’ mutation in one of four Pakistani families. Further study amongst Roma populations in Europe showed that the same mutation accounted for nearly half of all cases of PCG [Primary congenital glaucoma] in that community. Manir Ali’s research also confirms the widely accepted view that the Roma originated from the Jatt clan of Northern India and Pakistan and not from Eastern Europe as previously believed.

The new lineup looks like this:

General Caucasian Major Race***

European-Iranian Race (Most European – Caucasus – Armenian – Jewish – Turk – Kurd – Iranian – Jordanian – Iraqi – Assyrian – Druze – Lebanese – Georgian – Caspian – Palestinian)

Basque Race (Basque)

Norwegian-Swedish Saami Race*** (Norwegian Saami – Swedish Saami)

Finnish Saami Race** (Finnish Saami)

Sardinian Race** (Sardinian)

Kuwaiti Race* (Kuwaiti)

Arabian Race (Saudi – Yemeni – Bedouin)*

West Asian Race (Pashtun – Brahui – Balochi – Makrani – Sindhi )

Tajik Race (Tajik – Bukhara Arab – Shugnan – Kallar -  Sourashtran – Yadhava)

West Himalayan Race (Hunza – Bartangi – Roma)

Berber Race*** (Berber)

Egyptian Race (Egyptian)

North African Race (Moroccan – Libyan – Tunisian – Canarian)

Algerian Race (Algerian)

North Indian Race** (Punjabi – Central Indic – Punjabi Brahmin – Rajput – Vania Soni – Mumbai Brahmin – Jat – Kerala Brahmin – Koli)

Himalayan Race*** (Gurkha – Tharu – Ladakhi)

Karnet-Uttar Pradesh Brahmin Race*** (Karnet – Uttar Pradesh Brahmin)

South Indian Race** (Munda – Bhil – Maratha – Rajbanshi – Oraon – Parji – Kolami Naiki – Chenchu Reddi – Konda – Kolya – West Bengal Brahmin – Parsi – Gond)

Kerala Kadar Race*** (Kerala Kadar)

South Dravidian Race*** (Sinhalese – Lambada – Irula – Izhava – Kurumba – Nayar – Toda – Kota – Malayaraya – Tamil)

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More Hindutva Nuttiness

I am going to publish, in full, a recent comment by a Hindutva commenter. It’s about rejection of the Aryan Migration theory, but it’s also an excellent summary of Hindutva ideology as well. My comments at the end. The spelling was horrible in this comment, and the writing itself was poor. The comment required an extensive edit before it was published. My comments follow at the end.

I take it back a few hundred years, when the British first landed and invaded India, soon the British where killing, murdering and looting India. They destroyed Indian industries that competed with Europe, they created vast famines that starved millions, and they created the vast amount of poverty you see today. Vast canals were built which today is the leading cause of malaria – still water.

India before British occupation had more land under irrigation, was not poverty stricken and was quite wealthy across all castes. So the British not only having destroyed Indian society, wealth and structure, also destroyed native Indian schools, and replaced them with Taliban style English education.

People like Thomas Macaulay and others believed that White people where superior, just plain racism, in the same way Islamic Taliban thought they are superior, in the same way the Nazis thought they where, these people created and set up the educational system in India today, as well as the Congress party which was created and funded by the British to create a viable, western controlled, western centered political party called Congress.

At the same time the British created the vast slave networks from West Africa to North and Central America, created the slave code, and restricted and abused every slave and many slave generations after that, all the while doing it in the name of Jesus Christ, just like the Islamic Taliban in the name of Allah.

So these White people looted and abused virtually all parts of the world, be in China forcing opium onto the Chinese to open up markets, laying genocide on Indian people, enslaving the Africans, creating barbaric slave codes, where such cutting of ears and limbs to keep the slaves under control, the absolute destruction of South America and North American societies. The rape and plunder of Africa, all these highlight the intellectual thought and belief process of the White man.

The vast amount of wealth stolen from Asia, taking it from the richest area on earth to the poorest, and at the same time, Europe went from the poorest to the richest, again White people want you overlook that that DISTINCT relationship.

In Europe, after the slave empire of the Romans collapsed, Europe fell into the Dark Ages where the church forbade science, cleaning one self, restricted technology because through a shallow mindset all these where considered anti-Christian, such things as to wash, as to promote education, and science, it’s under this ideology that the White man has raised itself.

In Europe the elite classes had a more rigid class structure than anywhere else in the world, master and slave classes of Europe that contained the royals, the blue blood, knights, lords, and the peasant classes, the harsh and brutal treatment of the peasant classes lead to massive riots and revolts against the oppressive regime of the elite.

During the 17-19th centuries, Europe waged a religious and trade war against the heathens who did not believe in Christ, the same Christ that was murdered and then used a promotional tool to inflict more misery on the rest of the world.

The British, the Portuguese, the French, the Taliban Europeans, embarked on a religious war that would take over the world, such as slavery, opium wars, the Spanish Inquisition, the Goa Inquisition, on and on, the slave codes, the slave and master relationship in America that lasted 300 years, the same people that stole the wealth from India, the British, are the same ones talking about how poor India is, it’s this mindset we are dealing with.

So I ask again on what merit, on what grounds, on what morality, on what ethics, on what evidence we accept a racist White-centric view that Aryans invaded India, then it became the Aryans migrated, an now it’s a Aryan movement?

The jewel on the crown of Britain was the capture of India. Throughout history, the Greeks, the Romans, the Egyptians, the Persians (in the Avesta and Vedas, it mentions that the tribes of the Zoroastrians came from India and were banished from that land, not the other way round), the Chinese, have all asserted that India was the richest, most intellectual land on earth, with a very liberal society.

The Greek math and scientific knowledge was already known in India, many Greek philosophers would go to India to study the truth, the concept of numbers, binary code all came into being in India, Pythagoras theorem was already known in India, the Roman treasury was emptied every year with the giving of huge amounts of wealth to India in return for its produce, why didn’t the Romans just invade like they did with Europe?

So like I said I have many reason not to accept a White Nazi racist version of India, and I have more reason to support a Hindutva idea of India.

So it’s under this environment of White racist rule that we get the Aryan theory, a perfect theory from a racist, prejudicial mindset, its no different from an Islamic Taliban mindset, and those people who label Hindutva as militant, or right wing, are the same ones that claim slavery, opium wars, genocide of America, and India was a movement to bring civilization, ironic, or just a mindset of racism itself?

No one can dispute the European imperial campaigns of Asia and the known world, no one.

So no one can deny that Europe had a biased, racist, prejudicial position in the way it dealt with matters outside of Europe? It’s hardly big stop to make, the people that invaded the rest of the world with brutal genocide would also defame and humiliate the people in textbooks, just like the way Jews were belittled and ridiculed by most of the European elite. So it’s under this era, it’s by these people that we get Aryan theory.

Which was a direct self defense mechanism to suggest that India, the richest, most advanced land on earth, far superior than Europe, was in fact somehow related to the conquering Whites. Can you imagine the white Europeans from cold climates, with the idea that they are the people from a great civilization, only to realise that India and Indians are far superior, and that European history actually derives from Indians?

That is something that Whites could never accept, the White barbaric Christian Taliban style mindset, which created such genocidal action across the world, such as slavery, war in China, India, Africa, stolen Australian children, under this CV, the White majority and mentality was something they could not accept.

Remember people, India has never asserted that it was Indians who went out of India, even though the evidence proves this, yet the white Europeans have since the 18th century asserted this idea over and over again, till the point that Nazi Hitler rose, and that racist ideology broke Europe, many say that was a fight for freedom but in reality it was a fight between European dictators who for the past 300 years had brought misery and genocide to the rest of the world.

So the same people that created such misery and poverty are now pushing the Aryan theory, now tell me, does it seem like the people who would create such a story, have a biased, racist, prejudicial view? From this assertion is it a greater step to believe that the Nazis who killed the Jews didn’t humiliate the Jews further in textbooks? Is this to hard to believe, or is it another Hindutva lie, because the history of White racists and the history of Hindutva is the same, right?

As you clearly know, that campaigns of Hindutva enslaved Africa, China, and Europe, the Hindutva armies landed in London, slaughtered many people, and then imposed an Indian language on the elite…I’m sure you all remember that!

So it’s from this history that Aryan theory comes from, is it any wonder that such a story was conducted to fill in the gaps white European history?

To me…no…it fits the actions of the people at hand.

So a logical person, free from bias, can see the racist, intolerant, prejudicial view of the White Europeans, however this illogical viewpoint for many becomes the starting point of most debates, you see White people want to set up the rules in which such a debate takes place, so they purposely omit the chapters of European brutality in India, China, Kenya, etc, because they know that these actions then underline the racist, illiterate viewpoint of Aryan theory.

Abut the degradation of the caste system, now tell me, which society remains the same when all levels of the society have been ravaged, in other words, when the British looted India, did they only loot the rich or the poor as well?

Did the vast amounts of wealth stolen from India contribute to the massive poverty in India today? According to all independent accounts, the answer is a massive yes, but according to the West, it was known as civilization. Again, most of you have the intelligence to work out the difference.

Just like Nazis humiliated the Jews, today the British do the same, it was through the 200 years of robbing that India is poor today, prior to the British, the Indian education was universal for all castes, after the British only lavished on the high elite classes, like I said, who are you to believe, the Whites with the 500 years of absolute slavery and genocide or India with no history of religious conquest?

Remember it wasn’t India that claimed the Earth was made in 6 days, or the universe with an age of 6000 years, however in India the claims they made are more in line with modern science that anything Christianity offered.

It was under this intellectual shock to the White system that India was the home of civilizations, of European history, of language, of math, etc. that the West invested huge amounts of wealth in creating vast Nazi style English schools to further promote that idea to the middles classes of India.

In the same way millions of Germans where brainwashed with Nazi ideology, like I said, did the Europeans have an agenda in India, or where they just purely there for the honorable deeds of stealing wealth and land? Think about it.

Throughout Greek, Persian and Roman history, they all mention one land, that’s India.

The source of all math – of numbers, of algebra, of Pythagoras theorem – the first land to have vast cities across many miles, the oldest universities, the richest trade routes, the oldest scriptures, a culture that has existed in spite of many foreign attacks, even when the rest of the world fell to Christianity and Islam, India even after being ravaged yet still retains its Vedic culture, you cannot convert Indians as they know the spiritual truth.

Why did Europe have a passage to India? Because it was poor? Why did Europeans all send ships to find a passage to India, after the central route was taken by Christianity’s Islamic sister?

Why are the West Indies named Indies? Why are the Native Americans called Indians? It shows the extent to which the Europeans searched for India, that in mistake they named the West Indies and Americans were named Indians.

So with little effort we can see that Europeans from the Dark Ages have been searching for wealth and seeking treasure abroad, to the point in mistakenly calling other lands and people Indians, with little effort we can see the racist and intolerant actions of the West and Christianity in general. It’s under this thought process that we live today; it’s under these intellectual opinions that we get Aryan theory.

Just look today at Europe, it cannot sustain itself without immigration, again shows the roots of a young, shallow society, as the vast amount of stolen slave and trade wealth is now running out, places like Asia, which where the richest land on earth before the west looted it, are now easily returning back to becoming the richest economies in the world.

Asia has the biggest and largest populations, which is a key indicator of long sustained civilizations. Asia has a vast population that underlines it great history, that in itself shows the strength of Asia. Even after almost 300 years of Europeans looting Asia, stopping all developments in Asia for 300 years, Asia is retuning to power, because itself is the source of wealth.

That’s why Aryan theory is pushed again and again, a White desperate attempt to realign the creation story, making them the creators and the rest followers. Again, who first went onto ships and looked for India? I don’t think Indians ever contemplated seeking the United Kingdom. So for any intellectual to overlook the barbaric history of Europe and deny it any bias or lies is a complete idiot.

What’s Aryan theory? Aryan from Europe migrated and taught THE INDIANS. Quite a claim to make, after taking India’s wealth, so already accepting the superiority of India in looting their wealth, as you don’t rob poor people right.

Nowhere in any Indian scriptures do they mention ANY ARYAN HOMELAND OUTSDIE OF INDIA ITSELF.

Nowhere, actually they make the direct statement that out of India, the races of man originate. In the Bible, they are called Noah and his sons, Shem, Sham and Jayepti. But in India, the EXACT same story in the fish Puranas, which predates the Bible by many hundreds of years, claims that Shem, Noah, Sham and Jayepti were Indian, and were sent out of India. Now how does a Biblical story from India end up in the Bible?

Now recent genetic data has proven that all Europeans and many American and north Africans rose out of four mtDNA groups that arose in India between 10-50,000 years ago.

In European history it is known that Europe was invaded by people from East, who brought farming and agriculture. Throughout pre-Christian Europe, the acceptance of India as the central source is united, from Popes, the siege of Masada, where the Jews named the Indians as the people to copy before the Romans broke in, in terms of bravery. With more genetic data, its now proven and accepted that a back migration took place from Asia back into Northeast Africa.

The Egyptians claim they came from the East, today we see that many Somalis, Berbers, Ethiopians have genetic traits that take them back to India. If we go back to the Vedas, nowhere does it mention a place in Europe, now let see, why would a European Aryan not mention at all the original homeland of Aryans?

Because like I said, the Aryan homeland is north India, and hence why mention anyplace outside, as it does not? Whites stated that Aryans created the caste system; again this is proven false, as caste was created as a native system of government predating any Aryan invasion claim.

The distinctions between high and low castes are almost negligible and caste organization was created before any Aryan theory, just this alone disproves any White outsiders coming in and imposing their system, in facts it’s almost laughable.

DNA proves this to be a joke also, but it does mention that North Indian have genetic trait that are close to Europeans, but, and its a big but, that the Indian r1a1 gene is 4-5000 years older than in Europe, therefore solidifying its position as the creator, and reinforcing the notion that out of India the people went.

Nowhere has any evidence suggested that white Aryans invaded India and destroyed cities, their is no, NOT ONE evidence to suggest this at any Indus valley site.

Aalso what happened when the British Christian Taliban claim that due to their own failing to understand the life of the Earth, to be only 6,000 years, they claimed a migration sorry invasion date of about 1,500 years ago.

Again genetic data has proven no large invasions of any kind into the Indian population, and regard it as little to minor and predates 10,000 years. Yet DNA has proven that European farmers entered into Europe as recent as 6000 years ago, BRINGING with them farming techniques not from Europe but further east and south.

But before this, I asked myself has their been any other migration in recent historical memory from India. When the Islamic armies invaded northwest India, a large movement of people took place, they where called the Romani gypsies.

They where pushed out or ran away from the murderous armies of Allah, and for the best part of 400 years they had been moving steadily north and west out of India, into central Asia, north Africa and eventually Europe itself. What’s so important is the genetic look of these people, DNA has clearly shown that all Romani gypsies where from Punjab/Rajasthan, that’s their homeland.

Now if we go to UK, or western Europe, these Romani gypsies today have lighter skin tone, and look almost as native as the British or other native Europeans,

However if we take the migration route back to northwest India, then we can CLEARLY see a darkening of skin type with those gypsies closer to India.

So here is a clear indication of how Indians ventured out, and influenced European society, and with that dispersal the skin tone got lighter and lighter until they reached UK, and today you cannot tell the difference between Romani gypsies from India who migrated out to western Europe, and with time, slowly got lighter in skin tone to the point where they look almost like white Europeans.

This is the out of India theory, that shows how EASILY the Aryans came from India and ventured out, and today we can see this journey being made by looking at the Romani gypsy group extending from India to the UK.

The central premise here, common to the Hindutva ideology, is that India used to be one of the greatest and richest civilizations on Earth until it was completely destroyed by the evil British. I find this highly dubious. When the British showed up, they were not in awe of this superior civilization called India. Instead, they were outraged at what a backwards Hobbesian shithole it was. Granted, most of the world was a shithole a few hundred years ago but still.

Minimization of caste. This is classic Hindutva. Hindutva ideology revolves around the whitewashing of the caste system. One argument here is that caste is indigenous to India and was not brought by the Aryans. There is no evidence for this, and the evidence seems to be that caste was invented by the Aryans.

Another argument is that in the past, caste was an innocuous system, and was only turned oppressive by the Brits. Apparently not true. When the Brits showed up, caste in all of its horrors was already in full swing in India, and the Brits were appalled by it. What we glean of history seems to show that caste in its fully expressive oppression, dates all the way back to the Vedas. Caste was not any kinder in the past, in fact, it was probably much worse than it is today.

Yes, Europeans wanted to go to India, not because it was the greatest civilization on Earth but because India had a lot of products that European traders wanted.

Notice the extreme hatred of Europeans and the White man. Hindutvas’ hatred of Whites and Europeans seems on a par with Critical Race Theory types and the worst of the anti-White Blacks, Hispanics and Asians. If you’re White, I think you should realize that many Hindus hate you! The hatred for Islam and Christianity is palpable. Whites are endlessly accused of being Nazis, and Christians are called “Christian Taliban.” Hindutvas typically called Christians “Taliban.”

Given the whitewashing of caste, one must assume that Hindutva ideology is a higher caste ideology. Higher castes make up ~36% of Indian Hindus. The rest are lower castes, out-castes (Dalits) and tribals. One wonders how popular Hindutva ideology is with lower castes, Dalits and tribals. Can anyone fill me in?

The comment suggests, ridiculously, that since Gypsies came out of India and went to Europe, obviously so too did the Indians go to Europe in the way of the Indo-Europeans.

One point endlessly made here is that European civilization was inferior to Indian culture, and Europeans knew this and were humiliated by this, hence they made up theories that it was Indians who were inferior and Europeans superior. This seems to be classic projection on the part of the Hindutvas. There’s no evidence that the British thought that Indian society was superior to British society, in fact, the evidence is that they felt the opposite way.

The comment then goes on to say the opposite, that the Brits thought they were superior to the Indians. Make up your mind. Which is it?

Recent genetic data has proven that all Europeans and many American and north Africans rose out of four mtDNA groups that arose in India between 10-50,000 years ago, from the text, is an interesting claim, but I am not sure if it is true or not.

The comment claims that Europe fell into the Dark Ages after Rome and never emerged from these Dark Ages! Incredible. You mean the Renaissance never even happened?

If not for the canals dug by the British, there would be no malaria in India. So says the commenter. That seems dubious to me, as India is in the malaria belt.

It’s highly dubious that the Avesta and the Vedas say that Iranians came from India. Anyway, Iranians did not come from India.

The entire reason for India’s poverty today is the looting of the British colonialists. If not for them, the whole place would be Switzerland – Singapore in South Asia. In fact, the British were outraged and appalled at the Hobbesian poverty and brutality of Indian society from the first time the Brits stepped on shore.

Europe as a decaying society that cannot survive except for (implied non-White) immigration is a constant Hindutva trope. Smells like envy to me. I also suspect that those waves of immigrants necessary for Europe to survive must come from India.

Europeans are derived from Indians, who brought agriculture and civilization to Europe. This is one of the more extreme Hindutva claims, and there’s nothing to it at all. It is often buttressed by claims that there are Sanskrit words all over Europe. There’s nothing to any of this linguistically.

Back migration from India to North Africa. There were indeed movements to and from India, North Africa, the Caucasus and the Middle East 20-40,000 YBP. This is part of the genesis of the Caucasian race. It is dubious that a strong link between NE Africans and India can be found today. This seems to be part of the Hindutva claim that Ancient Egypt was Indian.

Caste originates in India and predates the Aryans and Vedas. This is a common lie, in fact, it is propagated so well across the web that I believed it myself for a long time. It’s apparently not true. Caste arrived in India with the Vedic Aryans and apparently was not there prior.

R1a1 was birthed in India 18,000 YBP, yes. But this is not the source of the R1a1 in Eastern Europe, which is associated with a more recent spread of the clade associated with the IE languages.

Aryan migration theory claims that Aryans showed up 1,500 YBP. Wrong, AMT says Aryans showed up 3,500 YBP.

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The Aryan Migration Theory: Last Word

It has been known for 150 years now that the Indo-Aryan languages came from outside of India. The evidence is overwhelming, primarily linguistic, but there is also some archeological evidence. In scholarly circles, there is no debate on the Aryan Migration Theory (AMT) and there has been little debate for 150 years. It is only among Indian nationalists and a few hacks and kooks that it is not accepted.

1. There is a substrate of a language that looks like a Munda language in the Rig Vedas. A Munda language was probably spoken in the Punjab when the Aryans migrated there. About 4% of the words in Rig Vedas are these early Munda loans. None of these Munda loans are found outside of Indic.

They would be found all through IE if the Out of India Theory (OIT) was true. The OIT holds that Aryans inhabited North India for 8,000 years, all the while the Dravidians were in South India and Munda tongues were in East India. Obviously, the Aryans came into Punjab and there mass language shift from a Munda language to Indo-Aryan (IA). The language shift is evident in the sparse Munda loans into Vedic Sanskrit.

There are also a few place names left in North India from the original Munda language of the Greater Punjab area. There are some river names left in Eastern Punjab and Haryana where the local Indus Valley Civilization (IVC) continued for some time after the arrival of the Aryans. These names would not be there if the OIT was true.

There are a large number of IA words for local plants and animals and for agriculture that have been borrowed from the Munda language of Punjab. There would be no reason for the IA people to borrow these terms if the IA people were native to Punjab. Instead, this borrowing is precisely what we would expect to see when pastoralists from Central Asia move into the tropics, encounter new plants and animals and start farming – they borrow the terms for these new living things and technologies from the locals.

This is particularly so in the case of farming, which was left to the local people – the Sudra caste. The IA people only brought a few farming related words with them from Central Asia – the remainder were borrowed from the new locals.

40% of Hindi agricultural words still derive from an unknown pre-Munda language of the Indo-Ganges Plains. Nahali, a small language in Madhya Pradesh, at successively lower levels of its vocabulary, displays high levels of borrowing from earlier tongues. 36% of vocabulary is of Kurku (Munda) origin and 9% is Dravidian. At the oldest level, 24% have no cognates in any known language and appear to have derived from the oldest language known from India.

2. There is an old set of shared loans between proto-Indo-Aryan and proto-Iranian for a number of agricultural and other cultural items that appeared in the Bactria-Margiana (BMAC) 3700-4200 YBP. The BMAC is located more or less in present day Turkmenistan. Obviously, these shared loans were picked up by the proto-Indo-Iranian people as they moved down from the steppes of Kazakhstan and Russia into the BMAC, conquering the people who lived there.

There are references in the Rig Vedas to the conquest of the BMAC peoples by the Arya. For this sequence of events to have occurred, the Indo-Aryans would have had to have moved through the BMAC during this time period and later moved into Iran and India, not the other way around. The language of the loans is not known, but it is apparently the language of the BMAC people.

So there is a BMAC or Central Asian substrate in Indo-Iranian. A possible guess for the language of the BMAC people might be a relative of the Burushaski language of northern Pakistan.

The substrate of the Rig Vedas is a Munda language. The substrate of the earlier Proto-Indo-Iranian language is the language of the BMAC. This sequence is not possible under the OIT and is only possible under the AMT.

3. There are early Indo-Aryan loans into the Caucasian language of the Mittani, who lived in northern Iraq and Syria. These loans are dated to ~3400 YBP. These loans are from an earlier form of Indo-Aryan than is used in the Vedas. Therefore, the Vedas must have been composed 3000-3500 YBP and could not have been composed any earlier.

Also, the Mittani could not possibly have come out of India as the OIT demands, since the IA loans do not show any Indic influences. Nor could the loans have come from Iran, as there are numerous IA Gods in the Mittani texts who are marginalized or do not exist in Iran. The loans must have come from somewhere else, apparently the north.

4. We have numerous references in the Vedas to battles between the Arya with their stone forts, metals, horses and chariots against the more sedentary peoples living in South Asia at the time.

5. There are pottery shards in the BMAC that resemble that shards found in the steppe culture to the north. This indicates that there is cultural resemblance between the two cultures. The suggestion is that the shards are Indo-Aryan and appear first on the steppes and then again in the BMAC with its conquest by the Aryans.

6. The chariot appears in the Urals 4000 YBP and then spreads rapidly in many directions with the spread of IE languages, to Europe, to China via the Tocharians and of course to India and Iran via the Aryans. The horse also appears in South Asia (Pakistan) 3700 YBP in conjunction with the chariots. The modern horse is not native to South Asia, so obviously it came from outside, obviously from the Aryans. The indigenous horse of South Asia, the Siwalik horse, was long since extinct.

7. There are specific Punjabi and Uttar Pradesh loans in Vedic Indic that are not found in Iranian. Therefore, Iranian could not possibly have come from Indic as the OIT demands. The languages must have split in the BMAC, one line going to Iran and another line going to India.

8. The Soma ritual originates in the high mountains of Central Asia  – the mountains of Iran, the Himalayas and the Pamirs – with the proto-Indo-Iranian peoples. The original name for the plant is a Central Asian term amsu . This term is borrowed into Indo-Iranian and eventually becomes soma, etc. Later, it moves down into Iran and India and appears in the Vedas. Therefore, the Aryans brought the Soma ritual with them from Central Asia to Iran and India.

9. There is tremendous evidence for a common Indo-Iranian language, mythology and ritual. This shared heritage is not possible with the OIT. It is only possible if there was an Indo-Iranian people, who then split into the Iranian and Indic branches.

10. The Vedic branch of IA becomes innovated and Indianized (in particular, the retroflex consonants) after its arrival in Punjab, while the Iranian branch escapes this development because it did not enter the subcontinent then. In addition, Iranian lacks any specific Indic terms. According to the OIT, the Iranian branch must be Indianized too, or else all of the Indic terms were somehow lost in Iranian.

Since it is not, both branches came from outside India, to the northwest. Iranian languages cannot possibly have come from the Punjab. An early date for Iranian to leave India is preposterous, and Old Iranian (Avestan) is too archaic to have left India after the Vedas. All this means that Iranian and Indic must have split before the Vedas and thus, not inside India. The OIT for Iranian lies in ruins.

11. Zero specifically Indic words are found in IE languages outside of India. For the OIT to be correct, many Indic terms should be found in all the other branches of IE. After all, the Gypsies left India 1000 years ago and took a large specifically Indic set of terms with them to Europe and beyond.

12. Retroflexion. According to the OIT, all branches of IE would have had to have lost their retroflexion after they left India. How likely is that? What we do find, though, is that those branches of Iranian which move east to abut the Indic languages do acquire retroflexion. Since retroflexion is in general not present outside Indic or languages abutting Indic, it must be a late development in IE specific to Indic and cannot have been part of the original IE language as required by the OIT.

Retroflexion only effects those moving into the Indic plain and the eastern Iranian lands, but everyone moving out of South Asia somehow loses it. This does not make sense.

13. Chariots. For the OIT to make sense, chariots must be exported from India 7,000 YBP. However, chariots only appear 4000 YBP in the Urals and NW Kazakhstan and from there spread from Ukraine to Mongolia. The western IE languages retain an IE root rotho for wheel because they had already moved away before the chariot had actually been developed in the Urals. Everyone to the east uses the IA form ratha. This could only be the case if the IA languages moved south from Urals.

Further, according to the OIT, chariots that appear in the Rig Vedas must show up in the text before they have even been invented. Linguistics shows that the word must have been innovated in proto IA at the Urals, for it is present in both branches of IA. This word, along with its invention, can be proved to have been innovated in the steppes and and then carried into India and vice versa could not possibly be the case.

14. Lack of tropical core vocabulary in IE. The core vocabulary of IE shows that the IE homeland was a temperate or even cold place. The plants and animals in the IE language include such cold weather animals, plants and weather words as the otter, beaver, wolf, bear, lynx, salmon, elk, red deer, hare, hedgehog, mouse, birch, willow, elm, fir, ash, oak, beech, juniper, poplar, apple, maple, alder, hazel, nut, linden, hornbeam, and cherry in addition to snow.

A few of these are found in South Asia, but most are not. There are no specific Indic plant and animal names found outside of India, even where these plants do occur outside of India. The OIT would assume retention of at least some of these terms, would it not? Instead, what we find is that a few core IE terms are modified inside India to apply to new plants and animals.

For instance, IE beaver bheber is adopted for the mongoose in South Asia, since beavers do not exist there. IE willow becomes reed, cane in India. So we see that IE temperate plant and animal terms are adopted for the newly encountered tropical living things in India. The flow is into India, not out of India.

For the OIT to be right, the IE languages would have had to have coined these terms after they left India. However, this is not what happened. Instead, the words were IE words from the core IE language itself, which, according to the OIT, was only spoken in India. But these plant and animal names could not possibly have been created in India because most don’t even exist there.

For the OIT to be correct, IE core vocabulary should indicate a tropical climate.

15. Early loans in very early IE. The earliest loans in IE are from Semitic languages of the Middle East. This is possible with an IE homeland in SW Russia or Anatolia, but not possible if the IE homeland is in India, as the OIT requires.

16. Typological features of IE. The typological features of IE are between Kartvelian in Georgia and Uralic in the Urals, as we would expect with an IE homeland in SW Russia, and unlikely with an IE homeland in India.

17. Skeletons. Where are the Indian bones? The OIT requires not a trickling out of India, but a massive migration out of the Punjab. Yet Indian bones look remarkably different from Middle Eastern and European bones. With the massive migration out of India required by the OIT, we should find Indian bones in all of the branches of IE. One would have to argue that the IE speakers who left India did not look like the rest of the Indian people.

18. Facial characteristics. DNA analyses of burials in the Kurgan area near the IE homeland 6000 YBP shows that 60% of the early IE people there had light hair and green or blue eyes. How many Indians, even North Indians, have light hair and light eyes? Almost none. Clearly, the Kurgan peoples were a European type of people. They moved down into Iran and India and mixed with the darker folks already there, creating the present day swarthy peoples of South and Central Asia.

19. Very early Proto IA loans in Finno-Ugric. The homeland of the Finno-Ugric people is somewhere in the Urals. The homeland of the Proto Indo-Aryan people is also somewhere in Urals, especially at the very southern end. The only way for these early PIA loans to get into Finno-Ugric is if the PIA homeland is in the Urals. It’s not possible with the OIT, which generally makes a separate Indo-Aryan branch impossible anyway.

20. Vedic is later than Hittite. For the OIT to be correct, Vedic must be the most ancient branch of IE of them all, very close to Proto IE itself. Yet Hittite, attested from 4000 YBP, is earlier than Vedic. In fact, it is later than Eastern IE, Proto IA, and even pre-Vedic, so Vedic must be a fairly late development in IE. In fact, Vedic is even later than the early forms present in Mittani 3400 YBP.

21. Sanskrit is the most ancient language in all of IE and looks a lot like the original IE language. This is the OIT claim. In fact, IE does not look much like Sanskrit at all. And Sanskrit is not even the oldest attested IA language. Vedic comes first, then Epic Sanskrit and then Classical Sanskrit, and Vedic itself cannot possibly be older than 3500 YBP. The IE language is dated to 6500-8000 YBP (I favor the earlier date). Epic Sanskrit appears only 2500 YBP and Classical Sanskrit comes even later.

22. Lack of IA archeological sites. This is a classic OIT argument. Actually, we do have quite a few site. From the original Proto-Indo-Iranian sites in Sintashta southeast of Urals to the BMAC in Turkmenistan to the Yaz Culture in northeast Iran to the Swat Culture in the Swat Valley of Pakistan to the Cemetery H Culture in Punjab to the Copper Hoard Culture to the south, to the Painted Grey Ware Culture to the south and east, we have a long stretch of cultures that have long been associated with the AMT by archeologists.

Cemetery H in particular shows a possible move away from IVC culture. While the pottery is of course the same, there is a new design on the pottery. On funeral urns we see a small picture of a man with a bird inside of him. This seems to indicate the Vedic belief that the souls of men could fly like birds. Cemetery H also shows a new burial style – cremation and deposit of remains in burial urns. These changes in culture are probably due to Aryan influence.

The ideal Aryan archeological site, however, has typically not yet been found. The ideal site would have the remains of horses and their furnishings, chariots, A Vedic ritual site with three fireplaces west of a river, a flimsy and primitive building pattern of bamboo huts, tools made of stone, copper and bronze, gold and silver ornaments, food consisting of barley, milk products and the meat of cows, sheep and goats. However, the pottery style would remain local, as the Aryans did not innovate pottery.

Such a site has continued to elude searchers, but one has been found in Swat. Swat is mentioned in the Vedas as Aryan territory – suvastu.

23. No Aryan bones. Another OIT argument. It’s quite common for migrations to not be represented by skeletal remains. The remains of the Huns, a large force of proven invaders who conquered Hungary have only just been found in the past 20 years. The most recent research indicates that the Aryans left language, but few genes, in India.

This is reasonable and is often the case with many migrations and invasions. The Huns left as little genetic imprint on the Hungarians as the IA people did on Indians. The Magyars also left their language in the Danube, as the IA people left their IA language in India.

24. European appearance of Indo-Iranian peoples. There is no getting around it. The speakers of Indo-Iranian (II)languages often look strikingly European. This is particularly the case of Iranians, who consider themselves White, or Europeans outside of Europe. The speakers of II languages in Afghanistan often look very European. People in northern Pakistan are some of the most European looking people in the region. Punjabis often look very European, and they look much different from the South Indians to the south.

For the OIT to be correct, this should not be the case. All across the region, all II speakers should look like South Indians, and so should the Punjabis of North India. That II speakers look so European is evidence that they are partly descended from the very European looking peoples of the Kurgan culture of southern Russia. They moved south and east into Central and South Asia, bred in with darker locals, but still retain a strong resemblance to their European roots.

25. LANDSTAT photos indicate the drying up of the Sarasvati River 3900 YBP. A stable of the OIT argument. Since the Sarasvati is mentioned as “the great river” in the Vedas, this proves that the Vedas are much older than 4000 YBP, despite the copious linguistic evidence. The problem is that LANDSTAT photos cannot indicate geographic times.

Further, the Sarasvati River situation is very tricky. The situation as represented in the Vedas is the same situation as exists today. The upper Sarasvati is a significant river, and this is where the settlements were. The lower Sarasvati had already begun to dry up, and by the time of the Vedas it emptied into an inland lake. In a few places, the lower river goes underground in the alluvial Punjabi plains and disappears.

Archeological investigation indicates that settlements along the lower river were abandoned as the river dried up around this time. As you can see, the “Sarasvati River dried up” meme is a huge red herring.

26. No memories of an Aryan migration. Another OIT line. First of all, it is quite typical of most people to have no memories or false memories of wherever they came from. The Romans said they came from Greece. The Gypsies say they came from Egypt.

However, the Vedas do contain vague references to former habitations, such as what appears to be the BMAC and there are references to journeys over mountains and mountain passes. Many place names in Afghanistan are from proto-II words from Central Asia and often lead back to ancient Central Asian enemies of the Arya referred to in the Vedas. One of these is the Parni, associated with the BMAC and later with a northern Iranian group. They had stone forts and well-built cow stables in northern Iran that look a lot like earlier BMAC structures.

The route of migration did not take place over the high passes of the Himalayas and the Pamirs. Few groups have migrated over these treacherous mountains in the last 2000 years. Instead, the migration went from the BMAC down through northern Iran to Herat in West Afghanistan to the Gomal River in near Ghazni in East Afghanistan to the Swat Valley.

There are frequent references in the Vedas to southward and eastward movements of various groups of Arya. There are no references to westward groups as would be required by the OIT. Some of these movements to the south and east are described in military terms as victorious conquests. There are also references in the late Vedas of movements of the Arya east from the Afghan/Pakistan border to Haryana, Uttar Pradesh and all the way to Bihar.

27. Archeoastronomy. OIT proponents like to push this theory. Supposedly, the positions of stars are mentioned in the Vedas. By analyzing the positions of stars in the Vedas, we can make claims about when the Vedas were written via tracking the movements of stars in ancient days.

However, archeoastronomy is a field in poor standing. All we can learn for sure from archeoastronomy is that the Vedas were written some time in the past 8,000 years. All else is up in the air.

The Indian Astrophysicist Rajesh Kochhar has clearly mentioned that the astronomical data in the Vedas is not reliable.

28. The association of Andronovo culture with Indo-Iranians is controversial. So say the OIT proponents. This is not true.

Andronovo is a culture associated with the proto Indo-Iranians that stretched, in its formative location, around northern Kazakhstan and and west into Russia to near Samara, then down to the Caspian Sea, covering most of the northwest quadrant of Kazakhstan.

Later its borders enlarged. At maximum, its northern boundary was from Samara in the Volga Basin east to Anzhero Sudzhensk northeast of Novosibersk in southern Siberia.

The eastern boundary bordered on the Afansevo Culture in eastern Kazakhstan, southern Siberia and Xinjiang. Andronovo did include part of Xinjiang in the far north where the Altai Mountains come down.

The eastern border then encompassed most of eastern Kazakhstran except the area east of Balquash Koli, moving down to the border with Kyrgyzstan in the south, encompassing most of Uzbekistan except the far south, the northern half of Turkmenistan all the way to the the southeastern shore of the Caspian Sea. The Aral Sea was the realm of the Andronovo People.

The relation of Andronovo to the Indo-Aryan people in particular, as opposed to Indo-Iranians in general, is more controversial, but has been suggested by some experts.

29. Chariots could not go over the Hindu Kush. Another OIT argument. But as noted above, the Aryans did not move down through the Hindu Kush; instead, they came east from the BMAC through northern Iran to Herat in west Afghanistan east to around Ghazni over to the Bannu region in the NWFP of Pakistan. That’s a much easier route than the Hindu Kush.

30. There was no invasion. The invasion scenario has been replaced in the past 40 years to a migration scenario. It seems more likely that instead of defeating the Dravidian people and pushing them to the south, or destroying the IVC, instead the Aryans merely profited from the collapse of the IVC that was already underway.

31. There was no genocide of the Dravidian people, all Indians look alike genetically. No one ever said there was a genocide of the Dravidians by the Aryans. Instead, the Aryans moved in, and there was intermingling and intermarriage with the Dravidians, the combined result being the culture of the Vedas.

32. The linguistic evidence. The case for the AMT and the total non-case for the OIT is made by the linguistic evidence. Everything else is secondary. The case was clinched by Hock 1999 (see references).

33. Indians descend overwhelmingly from the Paleolithic population of India. It’s true that 80% of Indian genes go all the way back to the Paleolithic era. But 80% of European genes go all the way back to the Paleolithic too. Same in Britain. Therefore, Europe and Britain has never experienced any migrations of invasions in the past 10,000 years. The Aryan genetic footprint on Indian genes, if it exists, is doubtless less than 10% of the total. It’s well known by now that the Aryans left language, but few genes, in India. Identifying genetic history with linguistic history is naive.

Keep in mind that the Aryans were probably installed a superstrate over the existing Dravidian population. The Aryans were probably no more than 10-15% of the population genetically, and the remaining 85-90% were Dravidians.

34. How could a more primitive people like the Aryans replace the language of the more civilized people, the IVC Dravidians? So ask the OIT theorists. However, let us note that Greek speakers in the Levant, Aramaic speakers in Mesopotamia, Coptic speakers in Egypt and Romans in northern Africa all got their languages replaced by the culturally inferior Bedouins of Arabia. This sort of thing happens all the time.

35. There is no solid proof an Aryan migration to India in archeological terms. This is true as far as it goes, but all it means that is that archeologists typically refuse to characterize migrations in terms of who is migrating where. While there is no archeological proof for an Aryan migration, there is also no proof for Greek, Germanic, Italic, Celtic or Armenian migrations in those branches of IE either.

36. The Rig Veda says that the Sarasvati River flows to the sea. According to OIT folks, since the river dried up 3900 YBP, if the Vedas discuss it flowing the sea, they must have been written before 4000 YBP. However, this statement is only in one sentence of the Vedas, and the word “sea” in question is actually samuda, which Sanskrit experts say can mean lots of thing, but in this case means and inland sea or lake as formed by a river emptying into a desert. Which is what the Sarasvati did. The Sarasvati never emptied into the sea at any time.

37. Horses. OIT proponents keep claiming that they have found horse bones or evidence of horses on seals or objects at some early date. None of this has been confirmed, and some cases have involved overt fraud by Indian nationalist “scholars.” The earliest confirmed horse in the region is at Pirak 3800 YBP. Many horse remains have been found after that, but none earlier.

38. The AMT was invented by Max Muller in 1848. Muller as a British spy – agent – whatever who was sent by the British to falsify the history of India so the Indians would lose their national pride. Hence, the AMT is a British conspiracy. Yes, OIT supporters actually say this. The long version is that he was hired by the British East India Company as part of a nefarious plot to denigrate Hinduism.

First of all, the theory was not invented in 1848 nor was it invented by Muller, as it substantially predates 1848 and Muller was not the first to come up with it.

There is no evidence at all that the AMT was hatched as a British conspiracy (other popular theories say that the entire linguistic community was in on this conspiracy), nor has anyone offered any reason how or why the British could profit by making up the theory of a Bronze Age culture in India. Or why the British, who supposedly hated Indians and thought they were inferior, would invent a theory that said that Indians were in part related to the great British people.

References

Hock, Hans H. 1999. Out of India? The Linguistic Evidence. In: J. Bronkhorst & M. Deshpande, Aryan and Non-Aryan in South Asia: Evidence, Interpretation and Ideology, 1-18. Harvard Oriental Series. Opera Minora, Vol. 3. Cambridge, MA. 

Kochhar, Rajesh. 2000. The Vedic People: Their History and Geography. New Delhi: Sangam Books. 2000.

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Zionism Rots the Brain

Repost from the old site.

Once more, via my friend Joachim Martillo, another article, Zionism Rots the Brain. Martillo is a Jewish convert to Islam who lives in Boston. He is active in the Palestine Solidarity Movement. While somewhat monomaniacal, I find him worth reading because of his delectable prose style and the fact that he is one of the smartest guys I know. Zionists should be honored with such worthy and weighty opponents.

This article deals with a couple of things. First of all, some recent comments by actor Will Smith, which the US Jewish community has gone nuts over, calling them “pro-Hitler”. Whether they are or not depends on Smith’s state of mind.

I suspect that he had no anti-Semitic intentions in making that comment, which was: “I think he woke up in the morning and, using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was ‘good.’” That’s probably a correct analysis. Most modern leaders actually wish to do good and not evil.

The open desire on the part of prominent human beings to do evil is part of a Devil Worship Cult that became popular via Aleister Crowley in the early 1900′s. This gave rise to post-modernist artists such as William Burroughs (one of my favorite authors) who wallowed in the lowest perversities that man is capable of. The statement is a modification of a previous Western avant-garde artistic statement.

The prior statement was a rebuke of the Christian notion that man is elevated morally above the lower animals. These artists constructed a vision in which man’s behavior was just as low as any lowly and lower animal, an artistic vision that repelled conservatives and outraged extreme rightists like fascists who found it coarse, devolved and debased.

Much later in the 20th Century ( Naked Lunch – highly recommended – was published in 1959) the Western avant-garde took it one step further and began to portray man as not only as low as lower animals, but in fact lower than any lower animal! This is a profound statement about mankind and conservatives are still reeling from that one.

Anyway, from this corrupt modernist artistic vision has derived a cult that has taken pride in “being evil”, worshipping Satan, and whatnot. The point here is that this is basically a modern phenomenon in the civilized world. Especially among world leaders, those who have deliberately sought to do evil are probably few.

Analysis of the Nazi worldview is difficult, and many did reject Christianity and dabble in Occultist arcana, but still I doubt that Nazism was objectively some sort of devil-worshipping cult that sought to do evil. Instead and as usual, they saw themselves as good guys fighting evil Jews, Gypsies and Communists.

Aryan and White was good and glorious and Non-White, Jewish and Communist were dark and wicked and needed to be destroyed to bring about the Master Race World. So, yes, I suppose Hitler did think he was doing a good thing – getting rid of the worst evils on Earth – Communism and Jews – in a dual blow.

But lots of wicked people fashion themselves psychodefensively as good persons fighting evil, and not the admittedly perverse vice versa. So, as such, Smith’s comments are not obviously anti-Semitic and Jews are overreacting as usual. But maybe we can hardly blame them?

A good post along the lines discussed here from the interesting Overcoming Bias blog is Are Your Enemies Innately Evil ?

Martillo also discusses how the German Jewish community attacked a very sensible Jewish intellectual named Tony Judt, who has written on junking Zionism and setting up some sort of single state project in Israel – Palestine.

He was granted the Hannah Arendt Award in Bremen, Germany by Hannah Arendt Prize Committee, the Heinrich Böll Institute and the Bremen Senate, probably for his prose. The Arendt prize was particularly appropriate as the great Hannah Arendt was a non-Zionist or possibly even an anti-Zionist.

Just another case of Jews policing their own to get them into line. Kevin MacDonald discusses the brutal and very effective Jewish technique in dealing with “treasonous” dissidents in his Understanding Jewish Influence II: Zionism and the Internal Dynamics of Judaism Here is Part I and Part III. Highly recommended!

On December 22, 2007, actor Will Smith made the perfectly reasonable statement about Hitler, “I think he woke up in the morning and, using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was ‘good.’”

Throughout the media and blogosphere reports turned the statement into something of the order “Will Smith believes Hitler was basically a good person,” and Jewish groups demanded apologies.

ADL national director Abraham Foxman summarized the situation, “Unfortunately, in citing Hitler in what appears to be a positive context, Smith stirred up a hornet’s nest on the Internet, where hate groups and anti-Semites latched on to the remark and praised it.”

What positive context?

This stupidity of this controversy topped the recent nonsense in Bremen.

According to Lob und Tadel by Frank König in Jüdische Zeitung, Dezember 2007 (Martillo’s English translation of the German, amended by me, starts, followed by the original German text):

Judt, the Hannah Arendt Prize Committee, the Heinrich Böll Institute and the Bremen Senate were sharply criticized in an “open letter” from the Executive Committee of the Jewish Committee of Bremen. Because Judt injected an outspoken “anti-Israel” tendency in his essays in the last year, according to the Executive Committee, the Committee opposes the prize conferred on Judt by the three entities listed above.

In particular, an article that Judt published in 2003 in the New York Review of Books, as well as Judt’s later opinions, are “intolerable” for the Jewish Community of Bremen. Judt accuses Israel of propagating a form of state-nationalism, that makes it impossible to bring about a rational solution in the Middle East conflict between Israelis and Palestinians.

Judt argues for a one-state and binational solution to the conflict. In making this stance, said the Committee in its “open letter”, Judt acts on behalf of “the official Palestinian, propaganda view of the history, while throwing in some invented and twisted facts as well as some anti-Israel vocabulary”.

Kritisiert werden Judt, die Hannah-Arendt-Preis-Jury, die Heinrich-Böll-Stiftung sowie der Bremer Senat besonders scharf in einem «offenen Brief» vom Präsidium der Jüdischen Gemeinde Bremen. Dass Judt in Aufsätzen der letzten Jahre eine ausgesprochen «antisraelische Haltung» lanciere, spreche nach Auffassung besagten Präsidiums keinesfalls dafür, einen solchen Preis zu erhalten.

Speziell ein Aufsatz, den Judt 2003 in der «New York Review of Books» publiziert hatte, sowie eine Auffassung Judts seien für die Jüdische Gemeinde Bremen «unerträglich». Judt werfe Israel vor, eine Art von staatlichem Nationalismus zu propagieren, der überhaupt nicht angemessen sei, um eine sinnvolle Lösung im Nahost-Konflikt zwischen Israelis und Palästinensern herbeizuführen.

Judt spricht sich für eine einstaatliche und binationale Lösung dieses Konflikts aus. Damit vertrete Judt «die offizielle palästinensische, propagandistische Sicht auf die Geschichte, samt der erfundenen und verdrehten Fakten sowie des antiisraelischen Vokabulars», wie es in dem «offenen Brief» heißt.

In other words the Bremen Jewish community attacked Judt just the way the American Jewish community attacked Arendt – for skepticism about Zionism and for proposing a one-state federated solution to the Middle East conflict. Finding a more appropriate recipient for the Hannah Arendt Prize would have been difficult.

I used to think the sort of Jewish behavior that characterized the Smith and Judt insanity resulted from Zionist/Holocaust brain-rot in combination with the arrogant belief that Jews are the moral arbitrators of everything, but the irrationalization of all discussion of Hitler, the Holocaust, Zionism and the State of Israel effectively prevents sensible debate over US and EU foreign policy in the Middle East.

I have even found evidence of the coordination between the Boston Jewish community and the German Jewish community over the last three years in ongoing projects to attack deviations from Zionist and Holocaust orthodoxy.

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Anything on the Right Worth Supporting? Well, Yeah

A commenter notes that the Far Right and Far Left advocate similar things, at least in the US. But that’s not the case at all.

Rob, what’s wrong with taking the good out of the left and the right and mixing it up? Perhaps the far left and far right are realizing that their real enemies are not each other, but the corrupt, plutocratic ruling class?

Far Right is Tea Parties, Libertardian Party and the Republitard Party as a whole. They most certainly do not support an attack on the plutocrats!

I support the Right on some things.

  • I’m for a hard crackdown on illegals.
  • I’m also for amending the 14th amendment to get rid of the anchor baby phenomenon.
  • I want to get rid of treacherous ethnic studies programs in high schools like the ones in Arizona.
  • I’m for a judicial decision amending the Civil Rights Act on “disparate impact.” This has gone too far, and it’s just nuts.
  • I want to end the Hindu 1-B program.
  • I advocate marriage licenses for parents, though it’s not happening.
  • I agree that there are intelligence difference between the races, at the moment anyway. Maybe not forever.
  • I want IQ tests for prospective immigrants from lands that are producing large numbers of problem immigrants to the US.
  • I think that PC anti-racism has gone seriously too far to the point of insanity, and that’s it’s now little more than anti-White racism.
  • I think there are hate crimes against Whites, job discrimination against Whites and hate propaganda racism against Whites, hence Whites are at some times and places anyway a persecuted race on account of their ethnicity.
  • I think the racial makeup of a city, more than income level, explains more in terms of its crime rate and desirability as a living space.
  • I believe the high Black crime rate may be in part genetically based, but is by no means inevitable at any rate, as culture modifies genes.
  • I believe that Gypsies are a criminal race.

I’ve been told that these are all a rightwing positions. So be it.

You know what the weird thing is though? Among White liberals here in California (and I spent my whole life with these people) if you get them behind closed doors when no one is listening, they will agree with me on a large number of these “rightwing” ideas. But it’s not something they will talk about in public. And they all voted for Obama anyway.

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Is There a Similarity Between Gypsies and Jews?

A commenter asks whether Gypsies and Jews are similar:

Rob, what do you make of my theory that Ashkenazis are simply smarter, more competent versions of Gypsies? You said they were criminals by cultural mandate? Sounds familiar…

Well, the similarity is to those parts of the Talmud that say it’s OK to steal from, abuse, kill, etc. Gentiles. An Us vs Them mindset.

Dual morality.

But I don’t think most Jews are into that. That’s more of an Orthodox thing. And it’s a SuperJew thing, for the Jews who are really, really Jewish, like the Orthodox or the ones in Israel.

I think your average secular Jew does not subscribe to dual morality. I described the concept to my Jewish girlfriend and she was horrified by those Talmud passages. She said they were sick and evil  and could not believe that they existed;  But she also had Yiddish speaking Jewish grandparents from Prussia who were so ghetto-Orthodox that they would not speak to non-Jews.

This is kind of a Super-Jew/Orthodox thing. For centuries, until the French Revolution, a European Jew would not drink tea with a Gentile. Nor would they eat with them. The Yemeni Jews still refuse to eat with Gentiles.

The solution to all this Jewish crap is the classical liberal project of the assimilation of the Jews. But the assimilation of the Jews leads to their auto-suicide. The “Assimilation Question” is discussed endlessly in Jewish circles and has been for 200 years. I knew an Israeli Super-Jew who told me that he liked anti-Semites because they prevent the assimilation of the Jews. This is also a classic ghetto mindset.

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Why Blacks Are Way Better Than Gypsies

tulio asks:

I’m sure there has to be something interesting or positive about them, no? I don’t know much about Gypsies/Roma. I’ve been warned about them when traveling to Europe and that they have various scams they run. But aren’t there many of them that just live normal lives? I can’t imagine that they’d all be semi-nomads.

There is one good thing about them: they make some damn good music. I can’t think of anything else good about them though.

As far as the question of whether many of them not just regular folks, the answer is not really. They’re like a Race of Criminals. They live in these squatter community type places that move around that are frequently on the outskirts of towns and cities. The Gypsies move in, and crime goes up like 8X. I believe in Hungary, Gypsies are ~15% of the population but they commit ~85% of the crime.

Most Gypsies are into some sort of crime. Many of the women are prostitutes and the men are often pimps, often pimping out their own wives or girlfriends. Lately, they run organize crime gangs and sell dope too.

Most all Gypsy women are pregnant while teens. Gypsy men beat their women like crazy, leave them and refuse to support them. Gypsy women have several kids all by different men. Gypsy kids do poorly in school, are often truant, and typically drop out. When in school, they are often fighting other kids and stealing stuff.

Even those Gypsies who are not into crime usually defend those who do! Or try to hide them from the law. There are not too many of them who are any good.

They have an Us vs. Them mindset in which they hate all non-Gypsies. Similar to the Jewish books that give Jews they right to steal from, abuse, kill, etc. Gentiles. Gypsy culture is all about don’t screw another Gypsy, but you can do whatever you want to a non-Gypsy, since they are the enemy. In fact, they have a cultural belief that is almost religious that states that non-Gypsies are ritually contaminated.

Most Gypsies simply refuse to work. Typically, the men stay home all day and bum around and send their women and kids out to beg money on the streets. There have been cases where they deliberately damaged or crippled their own kids so they could beg better.

And of course they run all sorts of scams of various types. These are often fairly ingenious.

Blacks have a low class, ghetto class or Underclass that is pretty bad, but there is also a large middle class like the commenters and authors of this blog who are more or less respectable people. Imagine if the vast majority of Blacks were Underclass Trash. Think of how hated Blacks would be. The Black middle class saves Blacks from some really serious racism.

Gypsies don’t have that. Most of them are just no good, although there are said to be a few who work and lead respectable lives.

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As Bad As the Human Race Gets

Gypsies. There is nothing to add.

There’s low, there’s really low, there’s extremely low, and there’s Gypsies.

I honestly don’t know what to do with them. I don’t agree with killing them, but I understand the motivation. They make US Blacks seem like Norwegians X Japanese crossbreeds. Other than music, they don’t have much cultural value. They came from India 1000 years ago, but they don’t act like Indians. They are a Criminal Race, pure and simple. The Europeans hate them, so they hate Europeans, so vice versa, so on and on.

They have an interesting appearance. They look something like mestizos, but they could also be North Indians like Punjabis. If I were a Punjabi, I would have nothing to do with them.

I refuse to call them Roma. Roma is a polite, nice term for Gypsies. Gypsies are not polite, and they’re not nice. Worse than that, they are criminals, apparently by cultural mandate.

How did Gypsies ever get so fucked up? No one knows. It’s an interesting matter, but I think it has more to do with culture than with genes. Culture and history. Capital H history.

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The Strange Saga of Harry Baker

Harry Baker, 81, one of the wealthiest and most powerful men in Madera County, California, has been arrested on charges of Child Molestation after it emerged that a video of him was taken in which he is naked and engaging in sex acts with a 13 Year Old Girl. The affidavit for the search warrant in the Harry Baker case is here. It runs to 67 pages, but the good stuff is on pages 26-37.

Harry Baker, age 76 in this photo, holding the scissors, dedicating a the Harry Baker Swim Complex pool at Yosemite High School on September 11, 2004. The man to the right is the principal of the school.

Harry Baker, age 76 in this photo, holding the scissors, dedicating a the Harry Baker Swim Complex pool at Yosemite High School on September 11, 2004. The man to the right is the principal of the school.

The incident occurred in a Fresno motel room two years ago. Baker apparently did not know he was being videotaped.

There was a woman in her twenties present, this woman is named Lisa Marshall, age 27. She apparently cannot be located. The girl’s mother is a Gypsy named Tillie Steve. She cannot be located either. Baker had a 5-year relationship with the Gypsy mother, Ms. Steve.

A woman and her husband and two others have been arrested on Child Pornography and extortion charges. They are apparently Gypsies. The incident occurred in May 2007. The girl, now 15, is now claiming that Baker Molested her. After the video was made, the Gypsies presented it to Baker and demanded blackmail money.

Over a two year period, the Gypsies collected $250,000 from Baker, who is a very wealthy man.

Baker owns Sierra Telephone, which has, in my opinion, an illegal monopoly on phone and Internet service in Eastern Madera County that has been, in my opinion, illegally abusing phone and Internet customers and competing business, such as Internet providers, for many years. Internet service through Sierratel is very expensive for slow service. They do this because they have a monopoly up here and can afford to shaft the consumer.

If you know anything about blackmail, the problem with it is that it never ends. They don’t just come for money once, take the money and say thanks and go away. The keep coming back asking for more and more money all the time. This is what happened with Baker. As noted he paid out $200,000 over a 2-year period with no end in sight.

Baker wanted to put a stop to it, so he went to an attorney, Richard Berman of Fresno (I don’t know this guy) and told him about the blackmailing. Apparently due to mandatory reporting laws, Berman was obligated to report Baker’s having sex with the 13 Year Old Girl to the police.

After an investigation, Baker was arrested by Fresno police on charges of Having Sex With a Child Under the Age of 14 (otherwise known as Child Molesting ). His bail was set at $500,000. Baker easily posted $50,000 of that and was released 8 days ago.

Harry Baker from his mug shot taken by the Fresno Police after his arrest eight days ago.

Harry Baker from his mug shot taken by the Fresno Police after his arrest eight days ago.

Baker is a former Madera County Supervisor who served on the Board of Supervisors for 12 years. He bought Sierra Telephone from his parents in 1950 and turned it into a very lucrative business. He was a well-known philanthropist in the area and spread his money far and wide.

Baker has now been suspected in another Child Molestation case. This time the Las Vegas Police are involved. The girl in this case, I believe, was also 13 Year Old Girl. She resides in the Bay Area in California, and she is saying that Harry Baker had sex with her in Las Vegas.

I’m not sure if having sex with a 13 Year Old Girl is Child Molesting or Pedophilia. The law claims it is, but the law is calling all kinds of bullshit Child Molesting and Pedophilia lately, including adult males having sex with 17 year old girls and female school teachers having sex with high school boys. Obviously, none of that is Pedophilia. The medical definition of Pedophilia would be sex with a Prepubescent person.

Nowadays, such a person would be 11-12 years old. So medically speaking (as per the DSM-IV) this is not Pedophilia, as 13 Year Old Girls are already going through puberty. Legally speaking, it is considered Child Molesting, as the law usually defines Sex With Minors 13 And Under as Child Molestation. So you can pick your definition here.

My opinion is that any man over age, say, 18, having sex with a 13 Year Old Girll is just flat out wrong. At that age, they still look like little girls. It looks like a Little Girl with boobs and starting to get some woman curves. I can’t see messing with a Young Girl like that at all, and I’ve been propositioned by them before, more than once. Unlike Harry Baker, I turned them down.

13 Year Olds are no longer children, but they are not yet adults either. They are “girl-women.” That’s what Teenage Girls, aged 13-17 are, girl-women. They are neither girls nor women, neither children nor adults. They are adolescents. Conflating sex with a girl 17 years and 11 months old with sex with a 7 year old girl is just nuts and wrong.

However, it is just wrong for middle aged and older men, certainly, to go after young girls, especially if the Girls are 13, 14, 15. It may be ok for a primitive society, but we live in a civilized society. I doubt if the girls are harmed if the sex is consensual, but you should not allow it. It does damage to society, so society has a right to ban it.

Men over age 40 going after Girls 13-15 are almost always pursuing them. Young girls that age will almost never voluntarily approach a man that age and try to seduce him. It doesn’t happen. They may go along when a rich older man like Harry seduces them, but they don’t initiate it. Bottom line, men of this age just should not be chasing and attempting to seduce Girls That Young. It’s just wrong.

To those of us oldtimers who have been in the mountains for a long time, there is nothing surprising about any of this. I have been hearing stories about Baker ever since I came to the mountains in 1990.

Here are some of the stories that have been told to me over the years. All of the informants wish to remain anonymous, and of course all of the stories are unverified rumors. But at some point, rumors are a flood that can’t be denied anymore.

1991: An Oakhurst “hippie woman,” about 35 years old. She had been to Harry Baker’s parties in the recent past, when Baker was 62 years old. After about 15 minutes, she took off running out the door. It was the worst and most outrageous party she had ever been too, with the Underage Girls , the drugs and the drinking.

1992: A 20 year old Oakhurst girl, now married, said she had been one of Harry Baker’s girlfriends at age 15-16, in 1987 and 1988, when Baker was 59-60 years old. She supposedly had photos of her naked with him, but I never saw them.

Early 1990′s: An elderly Oakhurst man went to see Harry Baker in his office to discuss a community issue. They kept getting interrupted by a Very Young Girl knocking on the door, “Harrrrrry…Harrrrrrry…..” The man who told me had taught school for many years, including junior high and high school.

He said that the girl sounded very young. He estimated by the sound of her voice that she was 13-14 Years Old, junior high age. The man was quite shaken up by the incident due to the fact that the girl seemed so young. At this time, Baker was about 66 years old.

2009: A 45 year old Oakhurst woman said that when she was in junior high and high school in Oakhurst 27-33 years before, Harry Baker used to appear at the schools quite regularly. In particular, he liked to show up whenever there was a birthday party for a student, especially if the student was an attractive girl aged 12-18. He would appear at the parties and smooch around with the Young Girls.

It was well-known at both the junior high and the high school that Harry Baker had a standing offer to any Young Girl to provide them with pot if they would lgo out into the bushes on school grounds with him and let him cop a feel. She said most of the girls did not do it, but some of them went for it and messed around with him.

In general, these girls were from broken homes. This would have occurred between 1976 and 1981, when Baker was 48-53 years old and the girls were age 12-18. The implication here is that the teaching staff and administration at Oakhurst-area schools during this time was aware of what Baker was doing and went along with it. Therefore, they were complicit.

2009: An Oakhurst woman, aged 71, said that the word from Madera County Victim Services is that they have worked with a number of Teenage Girls who had sex with Harry Baker over the years. In fact, case workers say that there is more than one “little Harry Baker” in Madera County as a result of these liaisons. In other words, some of the girls that Baker had sex with got pregnant and bore his children. It’s probable that if this is true, Baker has been supporting these women over the years.

1991-2009: During this period, I have heard many stories about Harry Baker. The word on the street is that he likes “Young Girls ,” as in Underage Girls. Asked for further clarification, they said it meant Teenage Girls, either Underage or right around the age of consent. Baker has also had a reputation as a womanizer, who had many affairs with females over 18. I don’t have much information on that.

In addition, I have heard many stories about the parties at his house. For 19 years, I have heard that marijuana, cocaine and methamphetamine are used at these parties. Pot is smoked, cocaine is snorted or smoked as crack, and sometimes speed is sniffed. There is also quite a bit of drinking going on at these parties. These parties reportedly occur at his ranch in Ahwahnee. The Young Girls are all apparently quite willing. In return for sex, Baker gives them money, drugs, etc.

In the course of their investigation, Fresno police interviewed motel and hotel owners in Fresno. They reported that Baker had been checking into rooms there for the past several years. Often Young Girls would show up later asking for his room. They always claimed they were his “nieces,” but they often did not even know his last name. Lodgers had begun to grow suspicious over the years because the girls seemed so Young.

To us, this arrest is nothing new . We are just amazed that he finally got caught.

Harry Baker is one of the richest men in the county. He basically owns Eastern Madera County, along with a few other powerful men. The political structure is very backwards, almost semi-feudal, Southern, banana republic or Third World.

Law enforcement are said to be in cahoots with powerful figures, who are protected. Good old boys are let go or allowed to file fake charges and “newcomers” or “city people” who are often disliked for not being rednecks. In other words, my experience with Eastern Madera County Sheriff’s Department is that they are corrupt (and yes, unfortunately, I have had some often unpleasant experiences with them).

The Madera County District Attorney’s office has long been corrupt, in my opinion. And yes, unfortunately, I have had some unpleasant experiences with those scumbags too, in particular Ernest LiCalsi, who I always felt was corrupt and a crook. LiCalsi wanted to bat 1000 as a prosecutor and tended to prosecute cases, even where it was obvious that the defendant was guilty or even that no crime, or certainly not that stated crime, had even occurred.

He was a sleazy, slimy prosecutor who cares nothing about whether defendants were guilty or innocent, or even the facts of the case. He just wanted to get his damned convictions. Recently, as I assumed, he was charged with ethical violations by the State Bar. I am sorry they did not pull this crook’s lawyer’s license. LiCalsi’s son was involved in an accident with an illegal alien in Madera.

In lieu of prosecution, LiCalsi accepted a bribe from the illegal whereby the illegal paid LiCalsi’s car insurance. Later the illegal filed a $2.5 million bribery suit against scumbag LiCalsi, accusing him of extortion for threatening to deport the illegal and prosecute him unless he paid the bribe to LiCalsi.

The illegal’s attorney, Stephen Geiringer, is suing LiCalsi and Madera County. He accuses LiCalsi of running a “Wild West, anything goes operation in Madera County.” I concur with that assessment completely. The trial was due to start this January. LiCalsi retired from the DA’s office after a long and sordid career of ethical lapses and abuse of the public trust. As is characteristic in this sleazy county, the scum also rises. Like in a summer pond, the scum floats to the top. I believe that LiCalsi is now a Madera County judge. I really wonder if you can get a fair trial from this former DA.

Harry Baker, as noted, ran Eastern Madera County, along with a man named Jamison and a few other guys. Jamison was an attorney, and he was one Hell of a scumbag. This guy was one of the lowest people in the county. I know someone who clashed with him on a civic issue. The man clashing with him was a substitute teacher in the local schools.

Jamison said the man would not work as a sub in local schools anymore unless he dropped his civic conflict with Jamison. I know others who clashed with him. Usually the threat was, “You will never work in this county again.” Thank God, this Jamison POS is finally dead. I’d like to know where he is buried, so I can go dance on his grave. Now Baker is down too. There are a few others remaining standing.

Harry Baker at age 79 at a film festival in Madera County two years ago.

Harry Baker at age 79 at a film festival in Madera County two years ago.

Baker, like Jamison, was not a man to be crossed. It was well-known in Madera County that you did not mess with Harry Baker. It’s clear to me that Madera Country LE and the DA have known what Harry has been doing for at least 30 years now and have done nothing about it. He has been left alone due to his power. It’s notable that he was arrested in Fresno County, not Madera County. Also, he has spread money all over Eastern Madera County, possibly in an attempt to pay everyone off.

I dislike Harry Baker. He is an extremely conservative Republican, like most of the idiots up here, but he’s a hypocrite. He’s a family values guy, but he’s been Screwing Teenage Girls for 30 years. He refuses to hire smokers at the phone company, and he makes you sign some stupid illegal form stating that you are not a Communist.

I have seen his job applications. I would estimate that 50% of the questions on there are illegal to ask on that form. It has long been known that Harry Baker will never tolerate a union at his precious phone company. Employees felt terrorized by Baker and told me that if any efforts were made to form a union, Baker would fire everyone involved. Hence, Sierra Telephone is non-union.

With Jamison dead and Baker looking at what looks like hard-time, the Little El Salvador or Little Pakistan in Eastern Madera County may finally be collapsing. I think the Feds might want to poke around in this sleaze of a county and maybe clean this place up for once.

In writing this article, I am taking considerable risks. Harry Baker is very powerful in Madera County, and as I said, he threatens to destroy anyone who messes with him. He also has tons of buddies all, paid off and otherwise, all over the mountains. No doubt they go to bat for him in a pinch. It’s notable that most critics of Mr. Baker refused to be quoted on the record.

It’s quite possible that the friends of these scumbags I mentioned here, or the scumbags themselves, could retaliate against me, possibly by publishing scurrilous stuff online.

I basically have nothing to lose, so I’m going to let it all hang out here and write this piece.

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