What Are the Chans?

Rachelle writes:

Robert, baby, what is 4chan? Is it some creepy pedophile thing?

Possibly 4chan and definitely some of the other chans are known to sometimes have legal jailbait posts and even illegal child porn posts some of the time.

A friend of mine linked me to one of the particularly notorious chans once, and there were a bunch of pics of girls all the way to Lolitas to teenagers there. A lot of the girls are in very suggestive poses like with their legs spread very wide; however, they always had just enough clothing on. I mean a 10-12 year old girl wearing short shorts and doing a total split with her legs spread wide. There’s no actual nudity, but it’s very suggestive. I guess this sort of thing is legal, but it was definitely straddling the line. It was more weird, strange and funky than erotic. I was mostly thinking, “This is a bunch of bull!” and “Why would anyone want to look at that?”

The posts were split between channers who were posting this silliness and others who were opposed to it and were disturbed by the pics. Some of those disturbed by it were attacking the guys posting the stuff, calling them creepers, pedos and Chesters. A lot of the guys posting the stuff admitted that they had some sort of pedophilic or Lolita interest. Some of the girls were older and that looked ok, but a lot of them were Lolitas or even a bit younger and that was just freaky and disturbing. I read a few pages of it, and then I said screw this and left.

Supposedly people post real child porn on the chans sometimes. Some of my friends are big chan readers, and they say now and then someone posts illegal stuff. They usually get reported right away, and the stuff tends to get removed. Thing is, if you hang out on the chans, you are probably going to see some disturbing legal quasi-pedo stuff all the way to real illegal child porn. That’s a good reason to stay away from some of the more notorious chans right there. Who wants to see that stuff?

There are other chans that as far as I can tell never post anything like that. I get linked there sometimes, so I go to the sites. Even these chans are wild, wide open places full of all kinds of mostly young male and crazy posters. The whole idea is to post totally provocative things to rouse people up. A lot of it is very funny, but some is just disturbing.

For instance, you will be reading along and all of a sudden there is gay hardcore pornography of some guy sucking off another guy. Who wants to see that? Did I ask to see that? Or there might be some gore pic of something really horrible like someone getting his head blown off. And often racist posts, especially against Black people, will spring up out of nowhere. This results in a whole bunch of other really ugly anti-Black posts and some people jumping in to defend the Blacks. Some of the anti-Black stuff is funny, but most of it is just crude, rude and vicious. It’s not uncommon to see nasty anti-Semitism either.

On the more legit chans, you will never see any quasi-legal quasi-pedo stuff and of course there will not be any illegal child porn. Instead there will be quite a few pics of hot young chicks and some legal straight pornography. Even that is a bit weird as you will be reading along, and all of a sudden you get hit by hardcore porn out of nowhere.

Personally, I find the whole chan experience even on the legit chans to be quite disturbing. A lot of the posters are very mean and cruel to each other, and it’s a pretty adolescent atmosphere to say the least.

The whole idea of the chans is “anything goes.”

Restitution Sought for Child Porn Victims

Here.

Very interesting article about girls who were used to make child porn suing the men who downloaded the movies about them. They are collecting a lot of money in at least two cases. They especially like to go after child porn collectors who have a lot of money under the deep pockets theory of litigation.

The article discusses a lot of the legal controversies this is stirring up. There are legal thinkers on both sides of the fence arguing either that the child porn downloaders did no harm to the girls and hence owe nothing or that they did in fact harm them and hence can be sued.

One interesting argument said that if say 1,000 men were guilty of downloading a girl’s porn movie and the damages were $1 million, each man could only be sued for 1/1,000 the damages, or $10,000. This goes directly against deep pockets theory.

Both girls were abused by relatives, one by her father and another by her uncle. One of the girls’ movies has become legendary in child porn circles for the girl’s performance.

Persons collecting child pornography are doing heavy time these days. They are getting sentences of 5-25 years in prison, long terms that are in themselves controversial and which some view as excessive.

Pedophilia Versus POCD Redux

Anonymous wrote:

I’ve had pure O my whole life. As a child it was both religion and contamination related. As I got older it turned into health and contamination related. (I became an atheist and stopped caring about intrusive anti-religious thoughts.)

But here’s where it gets a little tricky. When I was 10 years old and just discovering my sexuality, I noticed that I especially had a fondness for girls who were 5-7 years old. I knew this was much different than others my age, and felt quite guilty about it. I was also attracted to 10 year olds, however.

As I got older, every time I saw a cute little girl, I would avert my eyes and repeat to myself in my mind “I’m not a pedophile, I’m NOT a pedophile.” It felt very much like the intrusive thoughts from my OCD and happened constantly. This continued until around 16 years old.

At this point, I became interested in anime and the primary school aged characters in these shows. I talked to others who were interested in animated little girl characters also. At this point, I was still having intrusive thoughts, but being interested in the fictional characters didn’t bother me at all.

And then, in the same places where I was discussing these fictional characters, people would also often post pictures of elementary school girl models and actresses. I began masturbating to these photographs, but every time I would feel immensely guilty and hate myself for it.

Awhile later, I met a 6 year old girl. She began visiting us often. I just fell in love. In no other time in my life had I felt this way before. She was a joy to be around and extremely beautiful. We became very close, and I cared for her more than anything. After meeting her, all intrusive thoughts stopped and I accepted my attraction as normal for me.

I’m now in the my early 20s, and have very little interest in women. The pedophilic intrusive thoughts are no longer there, only the ones based on health worries and contamination remain.

I do have sexual thoughts about young girls, but I see them as normal for me now. Although when I see a cute girl that I’m interested in, it’s closer to crushing than lust. “Oh wow, she’s so beautiful.” The girls that I tend to like are between the ages of 5 and 11. They are just so cute.

Now, based on this information, do you think I have a pedophilic orientation? Or do you think it’s possible that I had POCD and just gave up fighting it?

A few things to consider: I would never touch a girl, I know it’s wrong.

It also has nothing to do with being dominant. I actually find the idea of dominating a young girl extremely disgusting.

It also is not only physical, I am extremely attracted to the personalities of very young girls, and just hanging out and playing games with them have been the best experiences I’ve ever had in my life.

This is a fascinating post. It shows that someone can have both OCD and pedophilia, so the notion that OCD’ers are too good or too moral to develop pedophilia is not correct.

Pedophilia in my opinion is simply a sexual orientation like homosexuality, bisexuality or heterosexuality. It can’t be much changed like any of those. There are countless gay and bisexual OCD’ers. I know because I have talked to many of them. Surely there must be some OCD’ers with a pedophilic orientation.

It’s probably better for a pedophile to have OCD than to not have it. The OCD pedophile will be a lot less likely to act on his urges due to his extreme morality, guilt and conscientiousness. The OCD will act as an inhibitor towards acting on the pedophilia.

I am absolutely certain that he has pedophilia. There’s no way that he could possibly have POCD and just gave up fighting it. Though it shows that there are some similarities between POCD and true pedophilia, and this shows how differential dx is so difficult with these cases.

I am actually sorry to hear that he has no attraction to adult females, but perhaps this is his normal orientation. I wish he had an adult attraction so he could live and love happily and legally in our society. As is, his sex life may well be barren or solitary and his love life may be thwarted.

However, many pedophiles are absolutely happy with their orientation and love being this way. He seems like he is too. I am very glad to see that he is happy with his orientation and his sexual and love desires. I love to see people who are happy. I agree that him that he should not act on this orientation as it’s illegal.

If he ever wants to have a real sex life with a female or really fall legally in love with a female, he will need to expand his love map to include adults, though most pedophiles have no interest in doing this. In fact, many to most pedophiles say that even if there was a cure for pedophilia, they would not take the cure.

I also love females of all ages. I love females period. Little girls are wonderful in a special way as a special kind of female, though I see them as seeds of women rather than fully formed entities and I see women as the fully town product rather than girls that moved on.

But there’s a girl inside every woman, and a budding woman inside every girl. If you love females, you learn to love the sprouted seed of girl in the woman and the sprouting woman in the girl. In a way, they are one and the same – females at different stages.

I actually like teenage girls a lot more than little girls. Little girls seem ridiculous to me, and there’s little sexual attraction there. I had a world full of good and great times with teenage girls, often sexual, when I was young, and I think about those wonderful days all the time. When I see teenage girls, I reminisce. About the teenage girls that I knew and loved, who will live forever in my heart.

Though when I do meet a teenage girl nowadays, they seem silly to me, and I can’t see getting involved with them. I would not do it even if it was legal. But the teenage girl is definitely a special type of female – not a girl and not a woman. Not better than a woman or a girl but only different.

I probably like adult females 18+ best of all, since they are legal. I like teenage girls who are fully developed, around age 16-17 because to me that’s just a woman. But their immaturity is a massive turnoff. Even young women of college age often turn me off now because they seem to immature and silly.

A fully formed and mature woman is not only maximally attractive to me (all females age 16+ are maximally attractive to me) but her mind is also fully matured, and that is a massive turn-on to me as I get older. Sex and love is more than just a hot body you know. And the fully formed and fully matured woman has a joyous wonder and glory about her that is equal to if not superior to that the teenage girl and the girl. All the female maturational types are wonderful in their own special ways.

Evolutionary Reasons for Male Attraction to Teenage Girls

George writes:

It’s 20,000 BC. You’re living in a small foraging society and need to secure a wife that will give you as many offspring as possible and ensure your genes will pass down the generations.

So what age of bride do you go for?

It’s simple. The best bride material will be girls approaching their first pregnancy since they would have all of their breeding years ahead of them and the time you’d have to wait before she’d start giving you any offspring would be at a minimum.

So what was the typical age of a girls first pregnancy in prehistoric times?

Using modern day foraging societies as a guide, it was probably about 17. This means that girls in the 12 to 16 bracket would have generally made the best bride material.

Now go take at look at what porn groups get the most traffic: Jailbait, schoolgirls, Lolitas…

Girls between about 12 and 16, in other words…

I have checked out some of the Reddit groups like Jailbait and whatever and I also checked out the Jailbait site where you get to vote on how old they are and read the comments below. On both sites, the girls are clothed, so there’s no violation of “child porn” laws.

On the Reddit site, I kept thinking, “Why would anyone want to look at this stuff anyway?” On the Jailbait site, it was interesting because you get to vote on their ages, but I also thought, “What’s the big fascination with this site anyway? Why are these girls so special? Who cares about them?” I didn’t always feel this way, so I guess I must be getting old.

There are probably evolutionary reasons for this. Gary is right. On the other hand, as we age, most men grow out of our attraction to teenage girls, even though it is quite normal.

At my age, a 12 year old girl just looks way too young. Is she attractive? Maybe a little bit. But also very underdeveloped and way, way, way too young.

13? Most 13 year old girls also look way too young, and most of them don’t even look that great – way too young and underdeveloped. It’s true that some look excellent, but even with those, you think, “Way too young.”

14 year old girls look a lot better, but even they are rather flat in their bodies, and they also look very young. These are the ones that you try pretty hard not to look at. I find myself looking at them sometimes and remembering back to when I was that age, and some of the 14 year old girls I used to hang around with, be friends with, and even date and sleep with.

When I look at them, I am often just reminiscing about the old days. But you have to be very careful about looking at girls of that age, because at my age, people will see you doing that and get mad at you.

Now 15 year old girls are excellent, it is true. In many primitive societies even today, a 15 year old girl can marry a man of any age. That’s right and proper of course, but a 15 year old girl is awfully immature. Nevertheless, they can be a lot of fun if you are young, and to a young man, they can seem pretty mature.

There were some 15 year old girls around here who looked pretty great. By then, their bodies are getting pretty developed. On the other hand, their bodies are still not totally mature, and their minds often seem extremely silly, girly and immature.

16 year old girls are the cream of the crop, because at this age, their bodies are often fully mature. I don’t know any girls that age around here, so I am not sure what to think of them at my age.

But one came to visit some relatives a while back, a friend of my niece, and she looked fantastic! She also had an interesting mind. Of course 16 year old girls can be a blast for young men because they look great and are often quite mature. I suspect at my age though, I might find them silly and immature. After all, at my age, I even find college girls silly and immature!

All in all, what Gary said is true, but this sort of thing tends to weaken as one ages. It almost seems that with each passing year, the girls look younger and younger and less and less desirable in that way. In Western society, we men are not just prey to our genes but also to our societies.

Our minds are molded by society, its rules and its laws. Teenage girl means “illegal.” In some way, that effects their desirability. You are at least less likely to look at them due to legal and societal factors. Even if they look good, you think, “way too young.” The idea that they are too young is probably an idea implanted in you by society, but nevertheless, society and laws shape your brain the same way your genes do. Humans are more than instinct-driven animals.

In Praise of 12-14 Year Old Girls (Pedophile Mass Hysteria)

There is something particularly delightful about a girl about 12-14 yrs old. This seems to be the age when a female is the happiest that she will ever be in her whole life.

I love to watch them sometimes (if I can get away with it), just because it’s so delightful to see them so happy, playful and joyful. They are smiling, laughing and playing all the time.

Sexually, they are somewhat interesting to look at, but not exactly the best item on the menu. If you look at them sexually, they seem “way too young,” or like “little girls,” “girls,” or even “kids.” They’re also pretty underdeveloped. All that’s a turnoff.

Up to my late 20′s and early 30′s, 13 and 14 yr old girls still looked really good. Remember I used to teach school, so I dealt with them all the time. But as I get older and older, they just look younger and younger and less and less attractive sexually. Even 15-17 yr old girls look “way too young” or like “kids” to me now. Lately I even find college aged women to be annoying, idiotic and insipid. They sound like silly, immature “Valley girls.”

This has happened only in the last few years. As you get older, the young people look younger and younger with each passing year.

To an older guy, it’s not just the looks that’s important. We want a certain amount of maturity. “Mature” women are ridiculous, silly, kooky and emotionally nightmarish enough as it is. Still, a female does mature as she ages, believe it or not.

You want a teeny-bopper in your bed? God help me! I want a woman not a girl!

But it’s great to watch these 12-14 yr old girls just enjoying life to the max. At this age, they are starting to play with and hang around boys too, but it looks more like play than anything else. I have seen them walking up and down the street with what looks like a younger brother. They play on the playground here with boys their age. I don’t see a lot of sexual stuff going with boys at this age. Instead, they just seem to be hanging out with and playing with boys in some non-sexual way.

Younger girls (under age 12), or what we think of as “little girls,” often look miserable, unhappy, serious or pouting. As girls get older (past 14), they get a lot more serious.

In some ways, age 12-14 seems like the pinnacle of a female’s life. At least to me it is, from an observer’s POV.

Let’s hear it for fun! Sheer, pure fun!

Little Girls, Lolitas, Teenyboppers and Grown Women

Steve writes:

I totally relate to what you said about what you find attractive and it doesn’t sound dodgy to me; quite the opposite. We’re just not used to someone being this honest and reasonable on this topic.

The way i usually think about it is that I’m wired to find sexually mature woman attractive. i definitely don’t want to have sex with children. But if there is a biologically/sexually mature 15 year old, then my brain isn’t going to give a shit she’s slightly underage; its just a natural response to the correct stimuli. I wouldn’t touch her though because its socially unacceptable and illegal and in most cases she would look somehow a bit too young anyway.

Well, the schools around here get out in the afternoon. Hell with the elementary schools, those are little girls. I don’t thaaaank so! That’s just so ridiculous, it’s absurd.

Then the junior high gets out too. They walk right down my street when school lets out because the school is right around the corner. Those are sort of “little girls” too, but some of them are getting bodies on them. Let’s call them the “Lolitas.” I’m not really into Lolitas, but some of them are starting to get some interesting bodies. I try really hard not to look at them, but once they start developing, it’s a bit difficult not to. But you know that mentally, they are probably extremely ridiculous and child-like, so forget it.

Then there is the high school. I like to drive by there in the afternoons a lot of the time. Great scenery! I try to do it really deviously so they don’t think I am looking at them, but that’s what sunglasses are for. Those are 14-18 or so, and many of them look quite fine. Once they get to be about 16 or so, they have a fully developed woman’s body on them, and that looks like prime rib. Oh yeah!

But then you look again at the face and they way they are acting, and you know it’s  just a silly, idiotic teenybopper. They were fun back in the day, but I don’t think I could do it with a high school girl nowadays even if it was legal. It would almost feel “pedo.”

Grown women are silly, nutty and idiotic enough as it is, imagine what a relationship with an immature teenybopper would be like?

As I get older and older, the teenyboppers look less and less good to me. Sure, physically, it is all there, but they seem too immature, mentally. Even though I’m a guy, physical attraction isn’t everything. Not anymore anyway. I like a female with a mature body and hopefully a mature mind too. Or at least as mature as a female gets.

I am even starting to find a lot of college girls really silly, immature and idiotic. They talk and act like airhead Valley Girls. Ridiculous. Sure, they look fantastic, but so what? I deal with enough idiots as it is. I am not sure I want one in my bed with me.

A Very Strange Incident in a Shoe Store (Pedo Mass Hysteria)

I went to a nearby big city to buy some sandals recently and while there, I dealt with something very strange.

I was sitting in the store while waiting for the clerk. While waiting for the clerk, I looked across the room. There were several older Hispanic women. They were all around my age. With them was a very young girl. I wasn’t sure how old. I just looked at her and thought, “Way too young.” She was also Hispanic. The next thing I saw was that the girl had her dress hiked up somehow, and I could see her panties. She was looking right at me with weird dagger eyes. That took me aback a bit.

At first I thought, “Well, she accidentally flashed me her panties from across the room.”

It was kind of interesting to look at, but girls that age are not really my cup of tea. Even for looking, I like them fully developed, say 16+. Under 16, they start looking progressively “way too young.” Plus they seem “underdeveloped.”

If I look at say 14 year old girls, I am more likely remembering back when I was that age, and the various 14 and 15 year old girls that I dated, got involved with, or were my girlfriends. I’m going back in time and remembering, because back then, 14 and 15 year old girls were the height of God’s creation. But as I get older and older, they look progressively less appealing for some strange reason.

This girl just sat there moving around and flashing me for a bit, while I was just chuckling to myself.

Then the guy came and helped me, and we were looking at sandals. I looked around then, and every time I did, I saw the girl, and she was always looking right at me, posing in various ways. Now walking around the room, following me. Doing an imitation of an older girl or woman flirting. I then that I realized with a bit of trepidation that the flashing was probably intentional.

Flirting with me! This was very weird and also sort of funny. I tried to figure out how old the girl was. She looked like a “little girl with breasts that she shouldn’t have.” Nowadays, that means something like 13 years old. She was pretty, but Lolitas are just not my favorite thing. If they’re yours, well, fine, but please don’t touch them. The laws are nuts these days.

As I moved around the room, I would turn around and wherever I was, there she was. Pretending to look at shoes. Pretending to do this or that. This was getting funny, but it was also sort of weird and disturbing. I thought, “Well, I can act like a mature man, take the high road, and ignore this girl, or I can have some fun and let her indulge her game.” Being a degenerate, I chose to let her have her fan and watch her little game for entertainment.

I also looked at the older women she was with, and they were completely ignoring me. This was also disturbing. The 13 year old is following me around the store, but the 50 year olds are treating me like I’m not even there. Eeek!

Finally, I was checking out. I looked around. There she was again, now off to my side pretending to do something fake. I bought my shoes and left.

I’ve seen this sort of thing happen a few times in recent years with underage girls, but they are generally at least 13 or so. Below 13, they just don’t look at me at all, period. Never ever.

What’s going on here is that these girls are entering puberty. The sex drive is turning on, and they are starting to get interested in boys and even men. Since I’m still an incredibly sexy guy of course, even young girls check me out, because they don’t just like boys, they like men too. I must admit that at my age, it’s quite flattering to know that I still look good enough to even turn on a 13 year old girl. Amazing!

This also strikes a huge blow to the pedophiles and their lies. Pedos say that pre-pubertal kids have this huge sex drive. They all want to have sex, preferably with the wonderful pedos who are positioned perfectly to help the kids out with their intense needs and whatnot. I don’t agree with this at all. Prepubertal girls seem to have no sexual interest in men whatsoever. Zero, and I do mean zero. I doubt if they are interested in boys either. But once they hit 13, a few start checking me out. Surely they are checking out the boys too.

We can make a few generalizations.

Prepubertal girls (I don’t know about boys) have little to no interest in sex. They have no sexual feelings towards boys or men that I am aware of. They live in an essentially sexless world, which is apparently the world they ought to live in because it’s the right place for them. The pedos are lying when they say that little girls have these huge sex drives for boys and especially men. It’s a bunch of crap made up by the pedos to justify their orientation.

The female sex drive comes on, as you might logically expect, with puberty. Duh! At that age, from 13-17 or so, girls’ hormones kick in and they start developing sexual interests in boys and even men. Which is just as we would expect.

And even young girls to check out men who are quite a bit older, which is surprising, but it makes sense. The drive is towards sex with males per se, and men are just overgrown boys. The anti-pedo hysterics who seem to imply that girls age 13-17 have no sexual interests, or only like boys and not men, are lying scum. Of course they have a sex drive. What they ought to do with that drive, morally and legally, is a matter of much debate, but the drive exists and it’s profoundly real.

Just because even very young postpubertal girls are sexually interested in boys and even men doesn’t mean that men get a green light for having sex with them. Whether or not the girls get hurt in these relationships is a matter of endless debate, and I don’t think it matters.

Men should not do it because it’s illegal, and nowadays, you will probably get caught, and they will throw the book at you in the worst way. If she is still pretty young, a lot of idiots will call you “pedophile.” Before you go to trial, some locals might kick your ass. In jail awaiting trial, more guys might kick your ass. And if you get convicted, you’re screwed in the worst possible way. After you get out, you’re a registered sex offender, and your life is blown to smithereens.

This site is interested in helping men negotiate life better and avoid problems. If you’re a man past 22 or so, screwing around with underage girls may well land you in the worst world of shit beyond your wildest imagination. I don’t want to see that happen to my brothers, so keep your hands off the teenage jailbait.

We Get Fan Mail

Well, now I know what rock stars and movie stars must go through. I got one of my first star-struck fan mails the other day, of course from a young woman. Or, to be more precisely, a teenage girl. I’d been communicating with her a bit because she was trying to get to my other site, which is censored by her South Korean government. At one point, she sent a mail that went something like, “Is that really your picture? You’re so handsome baby! I love you!” On and on like that for a while.

She was 16 years old.

It could be someone playing a practical joke on me, but I doubt it. For one thing, it came from halfway around the world, and English is not her first language.

What I think is funny about this is that we recently had a big shitfit on the blog where some idiot teenage girl-children and some of their fool older woman buddies showed up here and called me names, pedophile among them. One of the things that they insisted was that no teenage girl could possibly be interested in a guy my age, which is 52. It’s true, most of them aren’t, and most guys my age ain’t got it going on anyway. But some are and some do.

And if you get to be my age and still attract teenage girls, thank someone above for that. It’s a tribute to looks, charisma, health or something.

Sean Connery is regularly voted in the Top 10 Sexiest Men in polls of US teenage girls. I’m not sure when the last survey was done, but Connery is 78 years old! Another couple of famous actors, now around 45, also rank high.

This should not surprise anyone. Sophia Loren and Raquel Welch still look great to me at age 72-74. I imagine they look damn good to a lot of teenage boys too. And surely there are plenty of women in their 40′s and 50′s who have lots of teenage boys lusting after them. Sure, we all get old, if we are lucky enough, but if you’ve got it, you’ve got it, and some can keep dealing good hands far past age 40.

What’s funny is that if I write this girl back and play games with her, verbally that is, I guess I can go to jail. There are now new laws on the books called “sexual communication with a minor” (That one scares the shit out of me) and “grooming a minor,” in addition to the old standby “annoying a child,” child in this case even being a girl age 17 and 11 months. The same girl, yet a moon away from full womanhood, can also be “groomed,” I guess if you talk to her the wrong way.

“Grooming” is a phrase that creepy child molesters use for molesting little children. It involves winning the child’s trust through friendship before you move to the next stage, sex. It’s insane to conflate their sicko behavior with teen-adult sexuality, which is a whole other ball of wax.

Really, any of these laws ought to be thrown out on grounds of vagueness. I am talking to a teenage girl. At one point am I “grooming her”, “annoying her” or “communication sexually with her?” WTH man? Probably best never to say two words to the little hotties. Even if she asks directions, just walk away.

Oh well, we can still look. No wait, the Femcunt Scum and their White Knight Mangina buddies are about to make that illegal too. What’s the punishment? Teetering on a secondary ledge in Purgatory with the other pervs, eyes sewn shut with a falconer’s steel lids for decades of penance?

Makes you wonder what rock stars and movie stars have to deal with. They probably get bombed with out and out propositions, probably nude photos, you name it, all the time. Surely some of them are teenage girls. What do you do? Burn them in the fireplace? Call the cops? What if you write her back? You’re now going on a Sex Offender List for life?

Fuck this shit man. This has gone way too far.

How Could You?

There have been some notable cases in the media lately about men who were caught having sex with 13 year old girls. The Roman Polanski case was one. Polanski was 46 years old when he did the dirty deed. The Harry Baker case in California is another one. Baker is 83 years old. This started a big discussion on the blog about men having sex with girls around that age. Thing is, I could never fit a picture to the words. I don’t know any 13 year old girls! Honestly. Why should I? I think there are some around the complex, but God forbid I should talk to them.

A picture of an unknown 13 year old girl with her brother, Mom and dog. Where is the appeal?

So I started wondering what exactly a 13 year old girl looks like. Which took me on an Internet image search. I quickly came up with several images, and I was stunned. They looked so young! I was appalled that these older men could be having sex with such a young girl.

Now, there are girls and there are women. There are also things called girl-women, which is basically a teenage girl. It’s in between a girl and a woman, in neither category. As they start getting up around 16-17, it looks lot more like a woman than a girl. But down around 13 or so, it’s a Hell of a lot more girl than woman. Hell, 13 year old girls still have baby fat on them. Only a year before, they were still playing with Barbies.

Now studies have shown that all normal males react sexually to females all the way down to age 7. The maximum reaction is at 16, and it continues at the same level on up to adult women. That is, a male reacts at the same intensity to a 16 year old girl as he does to an adult female of any age. So saying attraction to 16 year old girls is pedophilia is perverse. If it’s so, then we are all pedos.

Below age 16, the curve starts to drop off steeply, and by age 7 it is nearly gone.

This is a 13 year old Ukrainian girl, Kateryna Lahno, who recently won a major chess championship. Sure, she's cute, but a sex object? You're kidding.

So the only difference between normal males and pedophiles is of intensity and preference, not of the presence or absence of attraction. To normal males, girls between the ages of 7-12 are ho-hum. It’s not that there’s no interest, it’s just that it’s not very strong. I mean, a lot of guys might be slightly interested in doing a sheep if it came down to it and they were in the mountains for six months, but it doesn’t mean that’s what they love.

To the pedophile though the girl from age 7-12 is his prime attraction. He’s not interested in mature females. That’s nothing to him.

This 13 year old girl won a championship in Texas for text messaging, beating all comers. She looks like a little girl. It bugs me to think of any adult male having sex with her. That's messed up.

There are some pictures of 13 year old girls on this page so you can see what I mean.

I will also link to a picture of a nude 13 year old girl, which was taken by a major yet controversial Australian artist named Bill Henson. It’s tastefully done and you can’t see all that much. Various courts have ruled that it’s not child pornography. The only problem I have with this guy is that he seems to be obsessed with shooting nudes of girls around this age. There is something disturbing about that.

I didn’t want to upload it to WordPress because I was afraid they would freak and shut me down. But there are numerous images of this photo on Blogger, so I’ll post it to Blogger and link to it. The interesting thing about this nude is how unerotic it is. I mean, it’s ok, but really, there’s just not much there. You look at her and shrug your shoulders and say, where’s the excitement?

Link here. Click at your own risk.

It’s ridiculous that adult men are having sex with these girls. Keep your hands off em!