Feminist Psychos Disrupt Warren Farrell’s Speech in Toronto

Video here.

Very interesting video of insane Feminazis gone nuts in Toronto, Canada, at a speech by men’s rights activist Warren Farrell.

I really don’t mind Warren. He came out of the left wing of the Men’s Rights Movement which was called Men’s Liberation. Men’s Lib was a bit nutty and it was very pro-feminist, but at the time, that was the right thing to do. I still think that progressive men should be both some form of feminist (I am a moderate feminist myself) and some form of Men’s Rights Activist (MRA). We in the Men’s Lib movement prefer to call ourselves and our movement “masculinists.” So a progressive man can be both a feminist and a masculinist of some sort of another. It seems to be the right approach.

Unfortunately, Farrell has gone a bit overboard with the MRA stuff. He has said some stupid things here and there, as we call do. But his got caught on tape and in print. He has defended men who have sex with their daughters, basically accusing the daughters of being seducing little sluts. That’s just wrong. And it doesn’t matter how your daughter acts anyway. You can think whatever you want to, just keep your damn mitts off of her, at least until she’s 18. Even over 18, having sex with your adult daughter is a bit strange, and women in adult-adult relationships with their fathers claim to have been damaged by these relationships.

Responsible men will simply keep their hands off their daughters at any age. It is simply the right thing to do. Warren may have said a few other dumb things. The problem is that Warren has gone too far into men’s rights, so he’s gone insane in the same way that most MRA’s have and in the same way that most feminists have.

The truth is that all Identity Politics is garbage, pretty much. Most MRA’s are sexist, reactionary bastards. Most feminists are sexist, lunatic bitches. Most all White nationalists are racist monsters. In truth, Chinese nationalists, Hispanic nationalists, Black nationalists, Jewish nationalists and really all forms of ethnic nationalist crap are simply backwards reactionary crap and should be avoided by progressive people at all costs. It’s as wrong for women to hate men as it is for men to hate women. It’s as wrong for Blacks and Hispanics to hate Whites as it is for Whites to hate Blacks and Hispanics. It’s all wrong. All racism is wrong. All sexism is wrong.

The sane people need to turn their backs on both forms of virulent sexism in the MRA and feminist movement and reject all forms ugly racism in the various crap ethnic nationalist movements.

Hating people for their race or gender is wrong. It doesn’t matter if you’re the “oppressed” or the “oppressor.” It’s all wrong. By sanctioning hatred against Whites and men while forbidding the oppressed Whites and males from fighting back against their female and non-White attackers, the Left has thrown in its lot with bigots. Granted, female and non-White bigots, but bigots nonetheless. All bigotry is wrong. All bigotry sucks.

Older Guy Having the Time of His Life with Young Women

I recently received this comment in the comments threads, from an older guy, age 67, who is having the time of his life partying with young women aged 19-23.

I don’t know what to say about this issue; it is mainly because all the old bags have made it to where older guys liking younger women is looked at as something bad. As a consequence, many older guys will either try to stay away or they are married. I am now 67, still in good shape and look maybe 54. Since my divorce, I am having the time of my life with women aged 19-early 20′s. They are a crack up to party with if you party.

I can supply drinks and even some Mollys (MDMA or Ecstasy), and they love to have a safe place to party at. I make sure they make it back to get to their real boyfriends or home safe afterwards. Sometimes I get lucky and one of them likes me. I love them calling each other “bitch” LOL. It’s funny as hell, and you only live once. I been there and done the boring marriage thing.

These young women enjoy doing things and have never done many things or gone many places. They are hot, and they are fun…What the Hell else is there? I am loving life, and of course I help them with gas in their car or school books as that is a part of me I acquired from raising a daughter. No is sex required as I am calm and easy going, so they like that. I’m in Orange County, California and have 3 different girls coming around. Love it…to hell with you rejected old bags that never want sex and only want to bitch.

This is a great article! 67 year old guy partying down with hot young chicks aged 19-23! He is good to them, responsible and doesn’t pressure them for sex, but nevertheless, now and then he gets lucky. If this guy is creepy, then I say let’s hear it for creeps! A lot of older guys are not really interested in young women to be honest, contrary to all of the insane paranoia. Around here, I almost never see an older man with a very young woman. You simply don’t see it. So what’s all the fuss about?

After about age 47, it is very hard to interest them in you anyway, or at least that has been my experience.

I know quite a few young women in my daily life, and as a general rule, they really don’t like me too much. I’m not sure what it is all about, but I suspect they think I am a dirty old man! Of course, I am a dirty old man, not that there is anything wrong with that!

Most of them don’t even want me talking to them, not even the slightest bit of small talk about the most innocuous subjects. They tend to shut the conversations down very quickly, and I get the message all right. I am starting to act pretty rude back to them, so what goes around, comes around. I’m not trying to pick up on any of them; I just want to talk about this, that or whatever.

At my age, I can still get nice looking young women about age 27-29, but that is about as low as I can go anymore. How this guy, who is 12 years older than I am, has these 19-23 year old chicks coming around, I have no idea, but props anyway Pops!

As far as his complaints about older women, in my experience, the female sex drive remains potentially very strong all the way into the forties, from 40-48 at the very least. For some it keeps going pretty strong until 50. So the female sex drive then seems to come on at age 13 (my calculation based on present rates of maturation in the US) and remains quite strong in many cases all the way to age 45-48 or so. I have known some women aged 40-48 who are extreme sex maniacs.

I do not think the female sex drive changes much between 13-48, but studies show it peaks at age 33-39. These same studies also showed that the drive at that age was quite a bit higher than that of teenage girls. This same study showed a high rate of female “sexual responsiveness” whatever that means, extending far past the 40′s and into the 50′s and even old age.

However, after menopause hits, there does seem to be a lowering of the sex drive. This seems to hit women around age ~50 or thereabouts.

Game/PUA: The Importance of a Sexy Voice

Do I sound like this guy?

A friend of mine said I sound like a “subdued James Spader” on the phone and in interviews. I had no idea who this guy is, so I had go check him out on Youtube. This clip is from Pretty in Pink (1986). Damn he is one sexy bastard, and I love his voice. If I talk like this motherfucker, I am one happy man.

What does your voice sound like? Has anyone ever given you feedback on your voice? I do think that voice is important to a man in terms of getting women and even getting along well with other guys. For a very long time, since I was 20 or so, women and girls have been telling me I have a sexy voice. I haven’t the slightest idea how I managed to do this, except maybe trying. I made as my heroes a number of my friends who were basically the biggest players that the Lord ever created on Earth, then I consciously went about adopting their personas and even voices.

I remember once I was trying to pick up this chick in Aspen, Colorado on a ski trip. I called her at her hotel room and one of her roommates picked it up. The chick said, “My roommate says you have a sexy voice.” If I want to try to develop that voice better, I just plug back into that that scene and recreate that voice, or I use other similar scenes in my past. I make it as synthetic as possible so it’s seems like a real channeling and not some sort of an act. This means it is part of your actual skin at this place and time and not some acting job where you are probably unsuccessfully trying to mine some buried memory deep in the rubbled past.

On the Net, I used to go into voice chatrooms and start talking to the room. Other folks are talking to the room too, so there is some competition going on. You need a mike to do this. A few times, I started talking to the room and women, often young women, would start typing, “I love Calvin’s voice!” “Damn, Calvin has a sexy voice!” and things like that (my handle was Calvin).

A sexy voice works both ways. If you always sound sexy, a lot of people are going to get annoyed. Specifically, many women you meet will think you are trying to pick up on them even when you are not. I unfortunately have to deal with this on a regular basis. I am not sure it is the voice bit or not but a lot of young women think I am trying to pick up on them even when I am not., and this causes problems.

A sexy voice is a good thing, and I think this might be overlooked in Game/PUA theory. But I am not sure. Do Game/PUA sites talk about the importance of a sexy voice?

The USA Is a Shithole

And it’s not just the government that sucks. That is a conceit. If the government sucks, it’s usually because you suck. Usually but not always. People get the governments they deserve. In many cases, governments simply reflect the political culture of the people. This is especially true in the case of representative democracies. If the US government is a rightwing nightmare, it’s because the US people made it that way. The government is rightwing because the people are rightwing. We could throw these idiots out anytime we want to and replace them with others, but we don’t because we have the government we like.

People get on my case for blasting other nations or even talking smack about some non-White races or ethnic groups. But the truth is that I am an America-hater. Probably one of the worst America-haters out there. And I have been for a very long time. I have been an America-hater possibly since I was 23 years old or so, if not sooner. It took me a while to realize how much this place blows.

Thing is that I hate most other countries too, so I probably would not be happy anywhere. I hate most governments and I hate most societies. I also hate most cultures. People’s political cultures pretty much suck everywhere. When they don’t suck, the government sucks.

This is pretty common on the Left. America is an insanely rightwing country, one of the most rightwing political cultures on Earth, or possibly the most rightwing political culture on Earth. What’s a Leftist to like? You’re living in a rightwing country. This is supposed to make you happy or what? US politics sucks, but the politics of Americans sucks. US political culture sucks. How long has it sucked? Forever, pretty much, but it’s been getting worse for decades now.

Most American people are pretty much good and decent people just like people most anywhere. As long as you don’t ask them about their politics, you can get along great with them.

I talk to people all over the world, especially in the 3rd World. Most of them hate their countries. They tell me that their country blows. And why not? The 3rd World blows, come on. 1/3 of the world wants to come to the US. That’s because the 3rd World blows so much that they want to come here. They don’t want to come here for the great political culture, they want to come here for the money. It’s all about the money. If you study human history, people were always trying to move from a lousy place to a better place. That’s the history of most human migrations and invasions in a nutshell.

There are some other things I despise about US culture. It’s unbelievably shallow and materialistic. All everyone cares about is money. Everyone is judged based on how much money they make or how good of a job you have. It’s not so bad for women, but it’s a nightmare for men, trust me.

As a man, you end up in an arms race with other men in search of how can make the most money. I played this game for a while, and then I gave it up pretty quickly. It was obviously a rat race road to nowhere. At one time, I was making some pretty good money. I told some guys about it, and they immediately stiffened up and told me I wasn’t making crap, and they were making more than I was. That made me angry at them and I wanted to beat them. I spent most of my time frustrated and angry at guys who made more than I did and trying to beat them. I finally realized that even when I started making some more money, I would just run into a bunch of idiots who were making even more money than I was.

And so the rat race and keeping up with the Joneses goes on forever. You’re always angry and frustrated and jumpy, trying to make more money. You always feel like a loser and a failure. You are jealous and envious of the guys who make more and you are out to beat them. It occurred to me that obviously there is no end to this insanity.

At the same time, when I thought I was making good money, every woman I dated told me what a loser I was because I wasn’t making enough money. This was especially true when they made more than I did. “Bob! You’ve got to start making more money!” At this time, I was working two or three different jobs.

That relationship would end, and I would meet married matchmakers. They would tell me that they had lots of single friends who they wanted to fix me up with but I needed to make a minimum of $X per year. It turned out that I was not making $X per year, so I had to turn her down. I figured out that most women are nothing but whores since all they want is money. My opinion of women plunged precipitously.

In America, a person’s moral worth is judged by how much money they make. If I make more money than you, I am a better human being than you, and you are nothing but a subhuman worm, haha. If you make money than I do, you are superior to me and I am a failure and a loser. That’s one Hell of a garbage way of judging the moral worth of human beings!

At that point, I became a total society dropout who wants nothing to do with society anymore. I’m anti-society. I am sitting here giving a gigantic middle finger to society. I want nothing to do with it anymore.

I would say that even though America blows for sure, most places in the world are way worse.

Gore Won Florida 2000

Here is the official paper, seldom linked and even more seldom read, showing that, according to a Washington Post scientific recount, Gore would have won the election if all of the votes were counted. The paper is quite confusing, so read it yourself and see what you can get out of it. The most important data is in red on page 8. The paper also conclusively lies to rest forever the debates about hanging chads, etc.

The thing that struck me about 2000 was that most of the Republicans (all White males) I knew seemed to know that Bush stole the election, but did not care. One more reason to cheer the gradual decline in White votes in the US, despite the considerable downside this involves. Whites, especially White men, are simply a force for reaction at least since 1980, and that is all there is to it.

The whole rightwing nightmare since 1980, continuing into the moment, may be laid at the feet of American White people. Looking for someone to blame? Blame White people, especially White men. The decline of Whites in America holds a considerable downside, but on the upside, we will finally defeat one of the worst forces of reaction in modern America – White people.

White men are now probably about 31% of the vote, declining from 39% in 1996. The decline is now going at @1% a year. There is a plus and minus to this, but on the upside, we can (tentatively) finally look forward to pushing a genuinely progressive agenda (at least in some ways) in America.

The article linked here also shows that White male union members are still voting Democratic, as they rightly should, though the article dishonestly questions whether this is in their best interest.

I am looking for something else. A progressive candidate that opposes illegal immigration and open borders, fights Black and Hispanic racism as much as the White variety, turns a dim eye on multiculturalism and legal immigration, is tough on crime, and puts the American worker first and the capitalist parasites a distant second. Surely we are not stuck with the reactionaries of the Whites versus the PC hispandering clowns of the Left?

Or how about, at the very least, European style social democracy, pro-worker and anti-corporate? Is it too much to ask?

I know I will die before this person wins office.

Indian Horndogs on the Internet

Dota writes:

Some interesting points, especially regarding creepy behavior. Indians get subtlety, but generally in the context of etiquette, which resembles the Persian ‘Taruf’ in its mode of implied communication. I am not sure about the etiquette patterns of the lower castes since I’ve never had any extended interaction with them, knowing how segregated Indian society is. This is worth looking into. You are also generally correct about Indian men failing to read signals properly, especially with regards to non Indian women

I have been dealing with Indians on the Net for a long time now. All I know is that they are regarded as the bane of the Internet by many women, and not just Western women. I knew a Kuwaiti and a Filipina who despised them also. They were simply way too forward and often aggressively and immediately sexual, and the women regarded them as creeptastic. The basic impression that I have gotten from these Indian guys, who I feel immense sympathy for, is that these guys simply do not know how to act around women at all! That’s just all there is to it. A bunch of guys who simply do not know how to behave or act around chicks.

As a guy who knows women very well and theoretically at least knows how to act around them, I can spot this clueless behavior a mile away.

My conclusion was that these guys grew up in some sort of a gender segregated environment, and they simply never learned how to act around chicks.

Of course I have acted creepy and clueless countless times in my life. I was corrected by females and others in all sorts of ways for this creeptastic behavior such that I know don’t really do it very much. The way a guy learns to act around chicks is by going through a creeptastic phase and getting spanked countless times. After a while you start to figure out what is ok and what is not ok.

I know quite a few Facebook chicks. I met them on a FB dating site a long time ago. When I go to these women’s homepages, every post they make has one or more (often quite a few) Indian guys jumping all over the post saying stuff to the woman. The stuff they say varies, but in general they are coming across overeager and overenthusiastic. Many of these women are Filipinas (some were Thais), and they are not that easy to score anyway. I have asked many of these Filipinas with Indian guys all over their page if they have anything going on with any of these Indian guys. 100% of them have told me, “No, those guys are just friends.”

Over time, I noticed that a few of my Filipina friends hooked up with men and started relationships with them. 100% of the guys they hooked up with were Western guys, either Europeans (often Swedes) or Americans, New Zealanders, Australians, etc. Indian guys were having a 0% success rate with these chicks.

I wondered if there was something inaccessible about these chicks that kept the Indian guys away from them. I got to know some of these chicks via chatting. I know how to talk to women, and it often didn’t take very long before these chicks were inviting me to their countries. I would say, “Where do I stay?” Sometimes they would say, “You stay in a hotel,” but a number of other times they said, “You stay with me baby!”

And a number of them asked me if I wanted to marry them. “You come here to my country, if you meet me and like me, you marry me and take me to USA.” Maybe they just want a green card, but I think a lot of them want to marry an American and get out of wherever.

Some of them sent me dirty pics of themselves, and others talked dirty to me. So these women were definitely accessible, but these Indian guys were completely locked out of them. Now why these Indian guys were batting .000, I am not really certain. Whatever they are doing, I would say that they are doing it wrong.

Rape among Western White Women: An Examination

Here we will look impressionistically at all of the cases that I can recall of females I have known who got raped in one way or another. I am using a pretty strict definition of rape here – forget the insane feminist daffynition. According to that daffynition, I have been raping females for most of my life!

Rape cases can be broken down into two categories: Hardcore Rape or Stranger Rape and what is otherwise known as Date Rape. There is some overlap, but Date Rape usually does not involve overt threats of violence and Stranger Rape almost always does. Stranger Rape frequently involves some sort of actual violence, and in Date Rape, true, hardcore violence is not common. However, some women are beaten and battered in the context of ongoing Date Rapes with a long-term boyfriend, and this complicates the definitions. It is not uncommon to see a bruised, battered woman who is getting raped on a regular basis.

Stranger Rape is much more likely to be prosecuted, and Date Rape is notoriously hard to prosecute. Almost all rapes by boyfriends (especially long-term boyfriends) and husbands fall into the Date Rape category. Nevertheless, Date Rape is still rape, and females who get date-raped often suffer consequences afterwards.

All cases below involved White females from the US or UK. Ages ranged from 9-80, but most were aged 19-24. The male rapists were aged 14-40, with most around 19-24. Four were White, and two were Black.

Case 1- Stranger Rape: A White female (aged ~80?) was raped in Los Angeles. The woman was a schoolteacher in Los Angeles who never married and lived alone. When she was an old lady, a very young Black male, apparently a teenage boy (age 14-16?), broke in and raped her in a brutal crime. At the time I was astonished that such a young boy would rape an old lady.

Case 2 – Stranger Rape: A White female was sexually assaulted at age 11 by a child molester-rapist. Her 11 year old friend was also assaulted. They had hiked to a lake and were walking home through a forest in New York State in a  area where there were no homes or people around when a White man in a ski mask (aged ~30?) with a knife accosted them. He fondled them and then ran off to a truck where he drove away. He was never caught. The 11 year old friend blamed my friend for it happening to both of them, and their friendship ended after that. This may more properly be seen as a sexual assault than as a rape.

Long term consequences are not known, but she has suffered from depression for most of her life. The relationship of the rape to her later mental issues is unknown, however, some say that her subsequent depression was not related to this incident. The crime is a very sensitive topic, and no one has been able to bring it up to her for a long time. In fact rape in general is a sensitive subject when she is around, and if you bring it up, she will usually get angry and throw some sort of a fit.

Case 3 – Date Rape: A White female (age 19-20?) was in Jamaica vacationing with a friend. They met some local Black Jamaican guys their age (19-20?) and hit it off with them. One of the Jamaicans offered to row them out to a nearby island where they could do whatever. He got her out to the island and then said that if she ever wanted to get off that island that night, she had to have sex with him. She didn’t want to be stuck on the island that night, so she gave in and had sex with him. I consider this a case of definite rape, though no prosecutor would ever prosecute it. Long-term consequences are not known, but I think she is over it by now at any rate.

Case 4 – Date Rape: A young female aged 19 is a college student. On New Years Eve, she went to a party and got very drunk. She ended up in a bedroom with some White college guy about her age. The last thing she remembers is she was down on her knees sucking the guy’s cock. After that, she blacked out and apparently passed out. Next thing she remembered, she was waking up and the guy was on top of her fucking her. She yelled at him to get off her, and threw him off her body.

As she was passed out, her vagina did not lubricate (she did not get wet) and he basically “fucked her dry.” The next day she had some minor vaginal bleeding from getting dry fucked. She was depressed about this incident because though she had had anal and oral sex before, she was technically a virgin as far as vaginal sex was concerned, and this is how she lost her virginity, technically getting date raped by some jerk. She had wanted to lose her technical virginity in an important way with someone she cared about. She talked to her friends afterwards, and they all said, “Guess what? You just got raped.” A lot of them also called her an idiot for getting into that situation.

For the next three months, she was unaccountably very angry, and she had no idea of why. It’s a good guess that the mysterious anger may have been caused by being raped. She also said she was tired of being called an idiot for letting this incident happen to her. I do feel that this is rape, but no DA would ever prosecute it.

Case 5 – Date Rape: A woman aged ~40 got involved in a long-term relationship with a White male aged ~40 that turned into some sort of abused or battered woman scenario. The man was quite abusive, had a horrible temper and ranted and raved a lot. He also demanded sex whenever he wanted it. She was often not in a mood for sex, and he simply violently forced it on her anyway despite her strenuous protests. She referred to it as “terror sex.” She may have given in due to fear of him, but it is hard to say. She had hip problems due to a disease called ankylosing spondiitis, and at some point needed a hip replacement. As her hip problems worsened, he stepped up the rough sex in an effort to damage her hip even further.

His behavior was complicated by heavy drug and alcohol abuse. Being in this relationship precipitated a period of heavy drinking and hashish use on her part. She got out of the relationship, but even now, she does not like to talk about it. Long-term effects were unknown, but there was a suicide attempt afterwards and she suffers from debilitating depression. The suicide attempt was related to the depression. I was unable to determine what effect that date raping might have caused the depression, however she has been wary of relationships ever since due to fear of getting involved with another man like this one who picks out vulnerable women. She thought he picked her out due to her vulnerability.

Case 6 – Date Rape?: A woman age 25 was with her young White boyfriend, aged 28, in hotel room. At some point while they were having sex, he took his cock and simply shoved it into her ass, very hard, and started pounding away. So he started having anal sex with her by penetrating her rapidly and violently without any lubrication. This can not only be very painful for the woman but it can also cause anal injury. At some point, she got him out of her ass.

She looked around for a way to retaliate. There was a champagne bottle on the table next to the bed, drained, as they had finished it off earlier. She took the champagne bottle and shoved it neck end right up his ass! It went all the way in, penetrated to a few inches at least. Wow! You go, girl. Then the relationship was over. She refers to this as rape but I am not ever sure if it is.

In the course of normal sex, a lot of folks aggressively try to different positions and moves on their partner without asking the other’s position. They simply do it without being asked. However, I think this guy’s behavior was most ungentlemanly at the least, and I’ve certainly never done such a thing. No DA would prosecute on this, and most law enforcement (LE) folks would even say that no rape had occurred. Nevertheless, the woman said that getting penetrated that way had been extremely painful, and it was not an experience she wished to repeat.

Conclusion: Looking around at popular news stories such as the Steubenville rape case and others in the news lately, we can see that the vast majority of rape cases fall into the Date Rape category. This stuff degenerates into a “He said, she said,” sort of thing, and LE will ask the woman, “Why didn’t you leave? Why did you stay in the relationship? Why did you get so wasted? If you didn’t want to have sex with him, why were you on your knees sucking his cock?” and other questions along those lines. Cases are not commonly reported and even when they are, DA’s usually choose not to file.

The Steubenville case was special because she was passed out cold, and it caught on videotape. Having sex with a passed out female is not only creepy and somewhat necrophilic, but it is also one of the most serious kinds of Date Rape. Cases are much more likely to be filed when the woman is passed out cold.

The fact that most rapes are Date Rapes means that there is not much we can do to stop rape in the US other than educating men to behave in a gentlemanly way and educating females about the slimy ways of males. Date Rapes are hardly prosecuted now, and that’s probably for the best as it is almost impossible to prove. I think a lot of these guys could use a short sentence at least, but in these cases, it is nearly impossible to even prove that a rape occurred in the first place. In cases of dubious evidence of guilt, it is better than no prosecution at all occur. Obviously we can prosecute in cases where rapes are caught on videotape.

Date Rape should not be minimized despite its somewhat hazy nature. Evidence shows that some females indeed suffer long-term consequences from Date Rapes, including anger, depression and suicide attempts.

We are probably doing all we can to stop Stranger Rapes already and I don’t see how we can do more without turning into a surveillance society.

There are simply no easy answers to this painful societal problem!

If a Woman Is Afraid of You, Is She Consenting To Sex?

Anonymous writes:

It turns out that many females give in to sex with males out of sheer fear. I do not think it is acceptable to terrorize any female into having sex with you.

The great question is, what if you do not know she is afraid of you? Trying to see it from the perspective of the Indian men, she willingly entered their house, willingly got into the bed, willingly took off clothes, without any force or threat from them. It sure as hell looks consensual to them.

As a very big guy (almost 6’4″, 250), I’ve been in situations where — I learned later — people, particularly women, were actually afraid of me and I didn’t know it til much later. In most cases, I hadn’t given them any real reason to be afraid, but for some reason they were. In one or two cases I had hard words to say but due to my size and intimidating appearance,

Thank God none of those were sexual situations (I’m a religious monogamist). But based on this story, I can easily see how a man could end up having sex, honestly believing it to be consensual, while the woman — who consented only out of fear — could “feel” and “believe” she was raped… and go to the police, or campus security, to report it as such…. destroying the man’s life. .

And the man would, of course, be shocked and outraged when the accusation is made, because he really, truly had no idea she was giving in out of fear. After all, he was nice to her, he didn’t threaten her or use force, she willingly went to bed, willingly disrobed, willingly went along… (maybe she even had an orgasm)…. and NOW she cries rape??

Men.,…just don’t have sex outside marriage. Presumably a woman won’t marry you if she’s got an irrational fear of you.

Women…speak up already. Sheesh.

You don’t pester a woman all night long, jumping on top of her endlessly trying to stick your dick in her, trying to stick your dick in her from the front while your buddy tries to stick his dick in her from behind, you don’t manhandle her tits so bad they hurt for 3-4 days afterwards. She was fighting them off and saying, “No, stop, don’t, get off me,” all fucking night long.

She only took off some of her clothes after endless cajoling by those guys. That’s crap right there. They basically bullied some of her clothes off of her.

Further, she only spent the night at their invitation after they assured her that there would be no sexual behavior. They lied!

There is nothing consensual about anything that happened that night really.

That is RAPEY ass bullshit. That’s all it is. You make some moves on a chick, and if she bats you away and says, “No stop don’t leave me alone, please,” you just leave her the Hell alone.

Pestering a woman like that is RAPEY behavior. You will probably never go down on it, but it is still profoundly dishonorable and creepy behavior.

I will gladly share my bed with any attractive woman whether she wants to have sex with me or not. I have shared a bed with a woman all night long and I did not try to even fuck her. If she doesn’t want to do it, she can sleep in my bed and I certainly will not pester her all night long.

In response to anon’s question though, if you are just a naturally scary guy for whatever reason, of course you are entitled to have as much sex as you want to with as many women as you want to. It’s obviously not rapey to have sex with a woman who is afraid of you, but it is rapey to terrorize or assault women until they give in to you, as these Indian jerk-offs did.

Letter from Rapey, Rapey India

A friend of mine was in India recently. I received email from her when she was there. She told me that the men were very aggressive, creepy and almost rapey. It was difficult to go outside because the men would all stare you down in an excessive, creepy, almost rapey way. In addition, the men were very aggressive sexually, always coming up to her, talking to her and basically obviously trying to pick up on her. The whole scene was so creepy and rapey that she actually dreaded going out. She is a 28 year old Asian-American, so it’s obvious that she is a foreigner.

At one point, I got an email from her telling me that she had almost gotten raped. She had met a couple of Indian men who were very nice and friendly. They invited her back to their place for dinner. She went along with them. They had a very pleasant meal and as it got later, she said she was tired.

They said, “Well, you are too tired to go home, so why don’t you stay here?” There was a huge bed, and they assured her that nothing sexual was going to happen. They would just leave her alone to sleep unmolested. She went along with it. Later that night, the two guys climbed into bed too. I am not sure if they were clothed or not. It was a huge bed, and there was plenty of room for three people. She was wearing a top and pants. They started bothering her. After a lot of cajoling, they convinced her to take her pants off so she was down to her panties. They also got her top off and she was down to her bra.

Then the men kept getting on top of her and trying to penetrate her sexually (not sure exactly how they were trying to do this). One would get on one side and try to penetrate her from the front while another would try to penetrate her from the back. They grabbed at her tits so hard that her breasts hurt for 3-4 days afterwards. They spent much of the night pestering her and trying to get her to have sex with them, but she refused.

I asked why she went along with them. Why had she removed her top and pants? Why hadn’t she left during the night as it was obvious what an uncomfortable scene was unfolding? She told me that she was scared of the guys. She said Indian men are very aggressive and dominant, and these guys were no exception. She had taken off her top and jeans due to fear. She had not left in the night due to fear. There were two of them and one of her, and it seemed safer to stay there than to leave. She told me that she was so scared of them that the just wanted to do everything they said except have sex with them.

I figure this is just Indian guys acting normally in India. It’s also possible that in Indian society, if a woman consents to share a bed with a man, she has consented to sex with them. It also seems as if Indian men regard Western women as “whores” and a prime target for sex, as many Indian women are not available for sex before marriage.

Further, many Indian men have little experience with women and hence behave very aggressively with them. I have noticed this online. Many women complained about the extreme aggressiveness of Indian men online and they told me that they hated all Indian men online.

I run a group for victims of Internet scams, and we used to have group chats. This Indian guy age 25 somehow weaseled his way in there, and he would get on his mike and start describing how he was jacking off now in a really creepy sexual voice. He also told everyone that he was virgin. All of the women absolutely hated this guy and said he was creepy as Hell, but his behavior is rather typical of clueless extreme horndog Indian guys on the Net.

It turns out that many females give in to sex with males out of sheer fear. I do not think it is acceptable to terrorize any female into having sex with you. You shouldn’t be getting sex with women because you have made yourself deliberately so scary that they are afraid to say no to you. I’ve never terrorized any female into having sex with me, and I’ve had tons of sex.

The behavior of these Indian guys was not ok at all. It’s frankly sexual assault. In the US, you don’t get to attack a woman all night long just because you want sex with her. It doesn’t even matter if she is in your bed. It is extremely rapey behavior, and it’s basically criminal, sorry.

You have a right to attack women, that is, grab them, kiss them, or whatever. If she responds positively, then the game is on. If she responds negatively or tells you to back off, at some point the game is off, and you need to give it up. I haven’t engaged in the sort of behavior these guys did ever in my life, and I’ve been around the block quite a bit. I always figured that if you have to pester her or continuously assault her until she gives in, it’s not even going to be worth it.

That said, no DA will press charges on this sort of thing in the US. It’s a date rapey thing, and date rape stuff hardly gets prosecuted. Further, no actual rape occurred, just a lot of assaulty sort of stuff. The cops would say, “Why did you stay with them? Why didn’t you leave?” Anyway, it is a He said, she said sort of thing and those cases almost never see the light of day.

In India, prosecuting a case like this would be hopeless. The cops would not come even if you called them. If they did, they would probably take the woman into custody and rape her themselves. India is probably one of the rapiest countries on Earth, maybe close to South Africa in the running.

India, Land of Rapes

Interesting video by Journeyman Pictures focusing on the horrific deadly rape case in New Delhi recently. For the first time, Indian society is confronting this sort of thing.

Also details the gang rape and torture of a young girl when she was 13 years old. She is now 21, and the case has yet to come to trial. This is typical of the Indian justice system, which is one of the most crippled justice systems on Earth. It simply does not work. Cases take years to come to trial, that is if they ever come to trial. High powered persons escape justice. Thugs persecute victims. Hush money is offered to victims to make them shut up and drop the case.

This young woman has refused to drop the case even after 8 years. Her family has been offered money beyond their wildest dreams to drop the case, but they ill not take it. Interestingly, it is her father who is the most steadfast. Over the 8 years, she has somehow lost all of her friends, and now she has none. She is under constant threat, and has received countless threats of death and harm. She requires a 24-hour armed watch outside her home to protect her from thugs who want to kill her.

In India, as in some other parts of the world, a woman who has been raped is seen as damaged goods, so she normally shuts up about it. In many cases, attempts are made to get her to marry her rapist. This is seen as the preferred solution. Unfortunately, this seems to be the case in parts of the Arab World too.

An undercover TV investigation of police officers shows that in India, cops (and society at large) blame women for their rapes. If they dress scantily, the man cannot control himself and apparently he is forced to rape her. This is similar to Islamic teaching which says that women must be covered up for their own good since otherwise men would be unable to control themselves around them and would presumably raped. Such thinking insults both men and women. It reduces men to nothing more than lower animals who are incapable of controlling their impulses, and it treats women as helpless children who require the continual protection of the state.

The cops also say that only 10% of rape cases are legitimate. The rest are consensual. I really doubt if that is true. Rape is so little reported in that country, and the stigma is so great to reporting a rape, that one would assume that most if not the vast majority of rape allegations are true. In India, a woman probably would not even bother to make a false rape charge against a man.

One of the most painful things about the MRA movement is that it is full of young Indian men. They scream that their country has been taken over by feminists (!?) and demand to go back to the old order. What they really want, obviously, is a permanent instantiation of all the abuses against women detailed above. It was about that time that I threw in the towel with regard to the MRA movement. They’re just as nuts as the lunatic feminists.