More on Nepalese Racial and Ethnic Types

This is a comment that was made in the article Nepalese Racial Types. This fellow is from Nepal and he lays out the various ethnic and racial types that exist in Nepal. Comments are welcome.

This is what Dor Bahadur Bista says about Nepal’s caste system in his book fatalism and development: Nepal is essentially divided into three different ethnic groups: the Khas, the Kirat, and the Madhesi people who live in the Terai region of Nepal.

The Madhesis are basically related to Indians. They look like people from Bihar and UP. The Kirat people are the mongoloid people of Nepal. These include people like the Rai, Tamang, Limbu and Magar. They are the indigenous people of Nepal. And then we have the Khas. These are my people.

The Khas are descendents of the non-Vedic Aryans. These include the Bahuns (Brahmins) and the Chettris (Kshatriyas or Warrior caste). The epic Mahabharata depicts the Khas people as lower-caste people. However, after India got invaded by Muslims, some Brahmins fled to Nepal, and started enforcing the caste system in Nepal. While some Bahuns today are probably descendents of these Indian refugees, the vast majority are basically speaking Khas people.

The Damai, Sarki and Kami are some of the untouchable castes of the Khas community. These were people who became untouchable because they resisted the caste system. Had they embraced the caste system, they would have been either Chettri or Bahun. While many people of these castes show some mongoloid admixture, they are overwhelmingly Caucasian. They seem to be even more Caucasian than the Bahuns.

For some reason, many Bahuns seem to look Indian. I am myself a Bahun who looks Indian, but I have been mistaken for Iranian by Iranians themselves.

Here is an example of a Nepali phenotype.

This guy is a Damai-Sarki per the photo description. This guy would be an untouchable in Nepal. He shows some mongoloid admixture, but he is overwhelmingly Caucasian.

This guy is from West Nepal. Typically speaking, Western Nepalis tend to be Khas people, although they are spread out everywhere.

Here is BP Koirala with Indians. BP Koirala is the tall guy with black hat. BP Koirala is a typical Khas Bahun.

Supposedly, Khas people have the same origin as the Kashmiris and Kalasha people. The Khas people had an empire stretching from Kashmir to Western Nepal.

I have actually seen one blonde guy in Nepal, so blondism isn’t very common. Most Khas people typically have black or brown hair, brown eyes and generally speaking sharp features. I had a Kashmiri Muslim friend growing up, and I always thought he was Nepali because he had similar features to Bahuns and Chettris.

I must also say that it is very difficult to classify Bahuns and Chettris. While some look like Indians, others look like Kashmiris. Kashmiris basically look like Afghans and Iranians. I must also mention that I have seen Bahuns who have Mongoloid features.

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20 Responses to More on Nepalese Racial and Ethnic Types

  1. This doesn’t cover the many nomadic tribes that roam Nepal.
    Take for instance the ‘Raute’, touted as the last nomadic tribe of Nepal, they’re anything but.
    Check them out-
    http://www.nomadicrautes.org.np/
    The Raute are quite interesting. They follow a nomadic circuit through the Himalayas that takes them around 12 yrs to complete. They have no concept of ‘money’, & they often barter with their hand carved wood products. They practice no agriculture nor are they ‘day laborers’, but they do hunt & gather in the forest. Somewhere along the way someone attempted to ‘Islamicize’ them, so they practice this rather odd combination of some Islamic traditions mixed with a lot of animism. They do not bathe nor do they know what soap is.
    What the website doesn’t tell you (and not many Raute will admit this publicly do to taboo) is that the Raute trap & eat monkeys.
    Apparently if you have a monkey infestation problem in rural Nepal, you wait for the Raute to come round & barter for their removal. I’ve actually seen this happen. What the Raute will do is dig a large pit with hand adzes at some strategic location, line the pit with sharp pointed sticks, overlay the pit with leafy branches, & chase the offending monkey troupe into the pit. Then the feasting begins!!! Yes, I know, monkeys are NOT halal.
    Anyhoooo……when you actually get out here in the rugged terrain of the Himalayas you’ll find there are numerous groups of these nomadic peoples that each have their own language & culture. They aren’t well documented at all.

  2. erika

    nepal,i feel disappointment with that country :/ U,U i liked hinduism because to me it was very interesting and beautiful,and i though that hindu india was poor because their huge size,but nepal has a well size that can be handled well by a competent goverment and is even poorer than india u.U

  3. Barani

    Manisha Koirala, the bollywood actress is the grand daughter of BP.Koirala

    Manisha Koirala looks extremely caucasian, and could pass for Iranian or Greek

    BP.Koirala could pass for Iranian

  4. DC

    The Himalayas seem to form a strong barrier between East Asian and South Asian genetics. Are there areas where the groups mix in those regions? I know in Burma there is probably somewhat of a mixture between those groups.

  5. @ Khas descendant
    Coincidentally, I know Wagle. And to be honest, I can’t really blame Indians for misplacing his national identity. In real life, I had many people mistake me for Uzbek, Kashmiri, Pakistani or whatever part of the world they think I ‘belong’ to. Foreigners would remark, “You don’t look Indian” while Indians would remark something like, “You don’t look North Eastern”. Ironically, I have also been mistaken for Latin American in Canada (although I couldn’t figure how they made this inane connection). Online, I have been mistaken for a Hindu ‘Atheist’ by at least two person(s) in this blog, one of them (ironically) really dislikes other people making ‘unfounded assumptions’. Misplacing people’s race, ethnicity, religion or country of origin seems to be a common facet of human behaviour.
     
    @ DC
    You don’t have to go that far. You can start from North Bengal, the narrow strip of land that connects mainland India to North Eastern states. The mix between East Asians and Brown people starts here, extending all the way to Thailand. Most foreign people are quite unaware there are as many genotypic East Asian and South-East Asian ‘Indians’ native to their home states in the country, as the population of England.

    • ‘Online, I have been mistaken for a Hindu ‘Atheist’ by at least two person(s) in this blog, one of them (ironically) really dislikes other people making ‘unfounded assumptions’
      Yes, & it particularly vexes me when they persist in this tedious habit of ‘unfounded assumptions’ even though they’ve been proven to be incorrect routinely.
      Don’t like getting a dose of your own medicine, eh?
      It is a pity that you, (like most Indians) can’t seem to learn by your mistakes.
      What are you nowadays, Mr AI?
      Meghalayan, Assamese, both, or neither?
      Are you still the non-desi Indian?
      PFFFT!!!

      • Indian BORN Beggars

        Robert instead of discussing Different Ethnic types ,You must Delve deeper into the issue of Human parasitism

        Only Nuclear war can save mankind from impending disaster ,We must use nuclear war,Bio-Chemical Warfare on indians .

        If you dig deeper into Genetic Identity of indians you will find that they are parasitic species on earth, only mass genocide is the answer to all the problems in south Asia.

        India must be pulverized with 100 nuclear weapons thats the only way we can destroy parasitic indians on earth

    • To answer your question, I am both. Khasi mother and a father from Assam. These are neighbouring lands, without any natural borders, so inter-marriage and dating across the tribes have always been kosher. No American style anti-miscegenation laws or social prohibitions, as long as we can trace back in history.
       
      I already cleared this up, months back, when Robert Lindsay seemed interested. Your obsession with my person, my ethno-racial identities and my (possible) religious background surprises me. You beat some of the Hindu nationalist kooks who turn up in my blog, in their obsession to ‘decrypt’ my possible Christian evangelism or my likelihood of being a typical Hinduphobic Naga Nationalist. People who want boxes to put other people into, make inane and insipid assumptions about me, because they don’t understand individual thoughts, opinions and ideas. Try harder next time.
       
      Anyway, I made it clear in my last comment that I have no desire to talk to you any further. Since you decided that I am such a pretentious asshole, why do you even care? Should I be concerned? Do I see a restraining order in the making?

      • Don’t flatter yourself.
        Pretentious asshole sums it up.
        Probably short too.

        • Anon

          Hey no need to bring shortness in this. He’s a pretentious asshole because he’s a pretentious asshole, not because he’s short.

      • Ha ha! Is that supposed to be an online neg or something? Am I supposed to be interested now, since you so viciously bruised my fragile and over-inflated ego? Okay aunty, keep going, I am humoured.

        • That’s better, shorty.
          Who gives a crap if you’re interested or not?
          Geez you love talking about yourself, sure your’e not Jewish too?
          OOOOOO.. ‘I’m an Atheist Indian ain’t I Spe-ci-al”
          I keep expecting some clever or at least witty retort out of you, but noooo.
          Just as dry, drab & boring as those Indians who got a degree in the ‘maths’ that you sooooo abhor.
          Hope you’re a better pilot than a ‘social psychologist’.

        • “Geez you love talking about yourself, sure your’e not Jewish too?”
          I must have been, in some previous birth. But really, I am trying to keep up with your narcissism. Its like running a marathon with Micheal Jordan, Mrs-I-hate-other-people-talking-about-themselves-because-it-takes-away-my-airtime.
           
          “I keep expecting some clever or at least witty retort out of you, but noooo.”
          I tried. It didn’t work. Everytime I think of something clever to say, I imagine your highness and my sense of humour shivels up. Just like that.

        • “Just as dry, drab & boring….”
          Ouch! I am hurt because auntie told me I don’t have a 40-year-old’s sense of humour. :( :( :( Maybe I should get a wrinkle job done and some grey hair, eh?

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