In the year 7,500, farming began in Germany. Recent DNA studies show that the farming began because migrants from the Golden Crescent (basically Iraqis) moved west through Turkey and SE Europe and the Carpathians to Germany, bringing farming with them. The superior advanced Arabs taught the inferior backwards Nordics how to grow food. They also left traces of their genes in Germany and along the route back to Turkey.
This was the beginning of the West, and the stimulation came from the Middle East.
In addition, I know that going back to around 12,000 YBP, Europeans resembled modern day Arabs both phentoypically and genetically. So if you go back far enough, Euros were just a bunch of Arabs. Or alternately, Arabs were the first Europeans. I told some Arabs that, and they said, “Of course we were. We all know that.”
Tell that to a White nationalist and watch him go ballistic!
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Robert Lindsay
I have to respectfully disgree Robert; there were no Arabs that far back, infact there were no Semites (Arabs are a Semitic speaking group)either.
The 1st Semitic group we know of are the Akkadians , who conquered/dominated (gradually) the non Semitic Sumerians. It is the Sumerians & Ubaidians who are credited with the start of civilizations, and civilization arose out of permanent intensive agriculture.
The quintesential Arab culture is that of the Bedouin, which is a pastoral/herder semi nomadic lifestyle.
Those are the ancestors of the Arabs, so it’s ok to call em Arabs.
I have to agree w/Pepperoncini here. Farming (and “civilization”) developed first in temperate climates w/plenty of sun, warmth, and fresh water. It developed there because it’s an easy thing to do there- easier than hunting- not because the folks who developed it were “superior”.
Also- calling the ancient Mesopotamians “Arabs” is too much. Germans are all Arabs? We’re all Africans, by the same logic. Animal husbandry developed in Africa first- does that make Africans superior?
Robert likes (too much!) to bash Nords as bearskin wearing primitives. It was cold, man! If you go back a little further, every group was doing that.
Mediterranean-type climate farming, which begat permanent settlement, which begat civilization- not groups of people so much.
All the racial-cultural superiority/inferiority theories people throw around focus on the much more recent past, going back only as far as the Greek and Roman eras. Go back further and it’s hard to say what relevance it has to modern races and cultures.
Most Post-Ice Age Euros were just living the easiest way, in that climate, at the time as tribal, mobile hunter-gatherers. But some did not- have you seen the Stone Age (neolithic) houses/apartments they found in Scotland? Running water, furniture, etc. Almost 6,000 years old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skara_Brae
the term “mid-Eastern” would’ve been more appropriate since the term “Arab” is just a cultural construct. anyways, your analysis seems very practical and pertinent because many times i’ve seen photos of protesting Arabs, and there you can notice some Europoid features in them.
i’d like to make a correction here, that the Germanic populations is continental Europe migrated from Scandinavia and what is present day Germany was populated then by what we can call proto-Celts.
anyways, its sure that they all have descended from the mid-Easterners
it is “Germanic population in continental Europe”.
Europeans have invaded and traded with the Levant for over a millenia so thats a good reason for the Europid phenotypes. The real Arabs, those of the Arabian penninsula do not have Europid phenotypes.
Arabs outside the Penninsul aren’t really Arabs except for the Bedouins. For the most part the non Penninsula Arabs are composed of the Pre Arab Pre Islamic peoples of the region. They got Arabised (mostly a cultural phenomena) when Islam conquered them.
Razib Khan, a Bangladeshi geneticist seems to think that Arabian Peninsula Arabs left a significant genetic mark on the Arab speaking countries in comparison to the non Arab Muslim population, comparable to the effect the Germanic tribes had on the British Isle’s native population.
actually, the English are not pure Germanic, since they are also a significant, if not a major mix of local Celtic populations
Celtics are pretty easily distinguishable from Germanic.
“actually, the English are not pure Germanic, since they are also a significant, if not a major mix of local Celtic populations”
Most all Celts have some degree of Germanic ancestry, whether they like to admit it or not.
“Arabs outside the Penninsul aren’t really Arabs except for the Bedouins. For the most part the non Penninsula Arabs are composed of the Pre Arab Pre Islamic peoples of the region. They got Arabised (mostly a cultural phenomena) when Islam conquered them.”
well, thats quite true. infact the North Africans are genetically and culturally Berbers. however, most of them are a mix of Arab and Berber. By the way, what is a “Levant” ?
@jameson7
though the Celtics can be easily distinguished from the Germanics, English people do have a certain amount of Celtic ancestry.
@ Gay State Girl
“Most all Celts have some degree of Germanic ancestry, whether they like to admit it or not.”
its actually the other way round
It’s not valid anymore, that Germanic populations migrated from Scandinavia. This was a romantic conception from the 19th century. (being a perfectly descendent of the blond and blue-eyed Ubermensch) It’s been the other way round. Today we see only some people left in the upper North of Scandinavia – the Sami people. Research (i.e. by Udolph) done on the old names of rivers and lakes shows that Germanic developed in the centre of today’s Germany in the fertile areas North of the Harz montains, along the middle Elbe river and lower Saale river and the Eastern part of lower Saxony. Genetically studies done on old skeletons found in the Harz show, that many people living there might be direct descendents from over 2000 years ago.
The Germanic tribes moreover probably originate from the Lusatian culture.
I don’t agree with that at all. The homeland of the proto-Germanic speakers is clearly in far southern Scandinavia, far south Sweden and Denmark. As far as where Germans came from racially, that may be another matter.
As nutty and funny as Qadafi was with his ravings, he did mention time and time again that Europe is a corruption of Eurobe, a corruption of Arab. So maybe he had a point?
Instead of Discussing about Arabs ,Humans must ponder about degenerate Indians.
The greatest danger to entire humanity is People living in indian subcontinent
We must think about some Final solution to indian Question
21st century faces 2 Great question
1. Parasitic migration and fast breeding in Indian subcontinent
2.Degenerate Jews multiplying in huge numbers
Who are you?
it is quite evident from your anti-India, anti-Jew comment, that you are indeed a fucked up low-life Paki bastard, who cant do anything better than cursing Indians, for that rape of 1971.
thats what dipshit Pakis like you generally do. spilling that shit our of their mouths. get a life you pathetic pissant
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