Blacks and Cruelty to Animals

Jewamongyou has a thoughtful post on Blacks and animal rights.

It’s long been noted that there are almost no Blacks in animal rights groups, I mean zero. No one quite knows why this is, but there are also few Blacks in the environmental movement.

JAY brings up the Michael Vick case involving the Black football star who was cruel to the dogs that he kept for dog fighting, which I had forgotten about. The reactions between Blacks and Whites towards Vick were polar opposites. Blacks in general rallied around Vick, while Whites more or less wanted to lock him up.

That’s a pretty surprising difference, and it begs for an explanation. Personally, I think it’s appalling that Blacks rallied around that guy, but then, I’m a White guy and an animal lover.

JAY quotes a ridiculous article in the Nation magazine attempting to explain the differential results. Apparently, Blacks have been abused by dogs. Dogs chased them down as runaway slaves and were sicked on them during the Civil Rights era. Consequently, Blacks hate dogs. This to me is typical liberal absurdity trying to give Black people some kind of cover by a major failing of theirs – sticking up for Michael Vick.

JAY notes that in Africa, there are almost few animal rights organizations. But there are many such groups in South Africa. Guess what? They’re all run by and populated by White people. That’s shocking right there. Even Whites who live in Africa, where one would be expected to hate animals due to the nature of the continent, are animal lovers. Even after a few hundred years in the place.

JAY then attempts an explanation involving Africa. Africa was full of animals, many of which were good to eat, and some of which were  dangerous. Hence, Blacks evolved in an environment where animals were there to be killed either for food or to protect yourself. He then theorizes that tropical peoples in general have little respect for animal rights and regard animals in a utilitarian fashion.

I ought to point out that animal rights is a new thing in the White world. As late as the 1800′s, we Whites in North America were doing a horrific job of it, at least as far as wild animals are concerned.

The more backwards parts of Europe still treat animals poorly. I posted a video a while ago of Serbian dogcatchers strangling stray dogs.

Arabs as a culture care absolutely nothing about animals and the environment. The environment is harsh and is there to be destroyed. Animals are in the way. However, cats are popular in the Arab World, since Mohammad loved cats.

Tropical Asians and Indians don’t seem to have a lot of respect for animals, except for cows in India. Mostly the wild ones are there to be exterminated. The same mindset flows through SE Asia, the Philippines and Indonesia. Cock fighting is common in the Philippines. Indeed, it is quite the case even into China and up towards Korea. White nationalists say that Asians are cruel in general, and sometimes I wonder if it is true.

China and Korea are not tropical places, but they have some pretty appalling attitudes towards animals. Even the mindset in relatively wealthy Singapore is probably pretty bad.

I understand that as China is Westernizing, more Chinese are getting pets as they become middle class. Even dogs are getting quite popular. Hence there is a growing movement against the general contempt with which such animals are treated in China. Animal rights in China is then seen as a modernizing, Westernizing and middle class movement.

Japan seems to do pretty well as far as animal rights goes, and there is a growing environmental movement too.

Animal rights in the Americas is horrible, but at least they don’t eat dogs. There is a love of cruelty and cruel animal sports inherited from the Spaniards. Many Latin Americans keep pets such as cats and dogs. However, wild animals are there to be exterminated in the typical 3rd World utilitarian mindset.

JAY’s theory that there is a lack of respect for animals all through tropical regions seems to be correct. As an animal lover, I don’t have much respect for tropical peoples period for this very reason.

I am uncertain if Blacks’ lack of respect for animal rights, as suggested by the Vick case, derives from their history in Africa, although it’s possible. A general love of cruelty was noted by early African explorers as a general characteristic of African Blacks. Modern writers have made the same observation. My problem is that I see US Blacks as a long way from Africa culturally.

There does seem to be a love of cruelty in US ghetto culture. Obviously, this sadism will manifest much more in Black males than in Black females.

Are Blacks more cruel to animals? I’m not sure. It’s clear that NE Asians, Latin Americans and Filipinos (an Hispanicized people) are. That goes without saying.

My gut feeling wants to say yes, but I admit I don’t have a lot of evidence.  I haven’t seen much evidence of it in my life. The nice Black lady next door leaves meat scraps out for the stray cats in the complex. None of the rest of us do that. A Black woman friend of mine loves her cat more than most folks love their spouses. The only evidence I have is that few Blacks join animal rights groups, and then there is the Vick case. But that’s not a whole lot to make a case on.

Black treatment of animals in Africa is appalling. If you watch Africa Addio, it becomes apparent that the Blacks would have slaughtered every living animal in Africa on independence if the Whites had not stopped them and the slaughter is ongoing with the scandalous Bush meat controversy. People kept saying it was a temporary thing with independence, but it’s never stopped and it looks like it never will. The only thing that seems to be keeping a lot of large African wildlife alive is White people and their money.

To me, it’s obvious that the only reason that Africans didn’t kill everything that moves in that continent it that they, thank God, had only primitive weaponry. Once they got ahold of modern guns with independence, the massacre began.

Then again, US Blacks are not Africans.

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224 responses to “Blacks and Cruelty to Animals

  1. Alpha Unit

    For God’s sake. Black people didn’t rally around Michael Vick because of some kind of dislike of dogs. I’m sure it had more to do with sticking up for another Black guy they thought was going into the system for something they didn’t think he should be imprisoned for.

    Why are Black people so fascinating to you guys?

    • I agree, besides animals (all kinds of animals) are common for “tropical peoples”. Can animals live hand-in-hand with humans? I don’t know, but westerners don’t know what it is like to live with wild animals day in day out.

    • louie jacuzzi

      I’m trying to figure out why white people have an equivalent sense of affection for humans and animals. Do you see us as animals, and that’s the only way you can treat us humanely? That is, do you only view us as worthwhile in the manner by which you see animals as worthwhile? This is really more telling about white people than anything? It says that white people have an attitude of: “they’re all the same…below us.”

      • I’m trying to figure out why white people have an equivalent sense of affection for humans and animals.

        See I was right. Blacks don’t get animal rights. UM doesn’t either. He’s Hispanic.

        Do you see us as animals, and that’s the only way you can treat us humanely?

        Oh FUCK NO.

        Which kind of Blacks? The ones who comment on this board? Hopefully we see them as just like us. What we call ghetto Blacks?! AFAICT, they are barely even human beings to me. They’re nothing but fuckin animals, and I do NOT mean that in a good way. It’s very hard to see the humanity of a lot of folks like that. We really have to work at it. It’s hard to describe how much those Blacks disgust Whites like me and my kind. I can’t put it into words. OTOH, I think almost all animals are superior to ghetto Blacks, except maybe mosquitoes and cockroaches. There is something horrible about a human that become so animal like that. It’s offensive on a visceral level!

        Whites really do think that humans are better than animals.

      • I think you’re on to something there, Louie. Especially in the case of some liberals. They will actively seek out black friends (or lovers) in much the same way they seek out a dog or cat as a pet. Of course they will deny this to their last breath.

      • This post can be called “Animals and cruelty to blacks” !!

    • Bay Area Guy

      Why are Black people so fascinating to you guys?

      I’ll invoke Newton’s 3rd law. Black people (or at least the organized elements of the black community, in addition to the online black blogosphere) are frequently agitating about race and getting in white peoples’ faces about race.

      So inevitably, more than a few race conscious white people are going to in turn scrutinize blacks, and not in a positive way.

      Let’s just say that when it comes to race obsession, blacks are the gift that keeps on giving.

      Re: Why many whites care more about animals than black people.

      Well, maybe I’m just speaking for myself, but animals never lecture me about my “white privilege,” say that only whites can be racist, demand that I make room for them, angrily denounce us in some of their “comedy” routines (think Paul Mooney), etc.

      Besides, I’m never on guard for a pitbull whenever I’m riding public transportation.

      • louie jacuzzi

        Oh yeah, bc black people, Mr. Tyrone, and the black establishment have standing on your neck and keepin ya down. Sucks to be you Mr. Michael Savage Limbaugh Beck Gibson. That whole 15 iq points, 20K of extra income, friendly legal system, 200k of extra personal net worth…such burdensome things

      • Alpha Unit

        Yeah, well, all these race agitators need to find some other way to occupy themselves.

        The Black ones say they’re only responding to Whites. The White ones say they’re only responding to Blacks. And everybody seems to enjoy it.

      • Bay Area Guy

        Oh yeah, bc black people, Mr. Tyrone, and the black establishment have standing on your neck and keepin ya down.

        I think you need a lesson in reading comprehension, Mr. High IQ.

        I wasn’t saying that blacks have their foot on my neck.

        What I DID say was that when you frequently agitate and make waves, you’re bound to show up on peoples’ radars, and those people won’t always react positively.

      • Alice

        Pitbulls are lovable dogs, sadly blacks brutally abuse them.

    • Yeah but that sucks. No way would Whites rally around some White guy who was charged with doing what he did. 1/2 of the White population would be screaming to string the guy up. Seriously.

      • Alpha Unit

        I don’t care about Michael Vick or about his supporters. But there are people out there who don’t equate animals and humans. Maybe the people who do are the strange ones.

      • tulio

        Whatever…I’m really sick of all these phantom wedge issues. Black people do this, white people do that, blah blah. A black athlete was caught dog-fighting and it’s made into a national issue(which it isn’t). What is that compared to millions of suffering animals we keep in cages so small that they can’t even move. Whites will continue eating their warehouse meat while pointing their finger at someone else for causing the suffering of animals.

        As for Europe, maybe there are more animals rights in N. Europe, but in Spain, bullfights are still going on to this. So why is slashing a bull to death for entertainment any worse than Vick’s dog-fighting? I don’t see whites calling for a ban on travel to Spain where they advertise this to tourists as a cultural spectacle to experience.

        • There are millions of people fighting against factory farms, and guess what? They’re all White.

          There is only one place on Earth where the state has legislated against factory farms and mandated that farm animals be treated humanely. That is in Europe, in Scandinavia. White people. Only White people will demand that farm animals be treated humanely and that the state enforce that as law. We won’t do it here because idiot Americans think it’s against capitalism.

          Although if we did a poll, I would bet that more US Blacks would support treating farm animals humanely than US Whites would, so I will hand you that. US Blacks are not into this hypercapitalism shit. Most Whites would probably think it’s “socialism” or anti capitalism or some crap.

          A black athlete was caught dog-fighting and it’s made into a national issue(which it isn’t).

          That’s not the issue. The issue is the entire US Black nation stood up for this fuckin psycho! They are even doing so on this blog. And that is a savage mindset.

          So why is slashing a bull to death for entertainment any worse than Vick’s dog-fighting?

          Bullfighting is banned in the US.

          Spaniards are savages and so are Latin Americans and Filipinos. Savages all.

    • Fu

      They are fascinating because they feel they are deserved some sort of golden plate served to them after slavery ended over 200 years ago and they still can’t function in society. They take their anger out on animals (that weren’t alive when their ancestors were…as well as “current day” white people who were not alive then either) so they can feel some sort of justification. Justification that they themselves were not around for as well. It’s pathetic and the most pitiful people in modern day can be fascinating train wrecks because their stupidity allows them to be.

      • WA

        Another reason that blacks/asians tend to treat animals badly is because they find cleaning up animals hard work. They may give abit of food or bones to those poor animals. that is all. Most of the time, they vent their anger on animals in a weird savage manners.

        go free instead of

      • hebgal

        well said ;)

    • WHY you dare to ASK WHY.
      because they are about a 1/2 a chromosome from being a full blooded
      Gor……… eh – banana chomper. LOL

    • Dutchie

      Why are black people stick up for Vick based on race?…Oh yeah because they are racist as hell.

  2. Tom Phillips

    Blacks themselves have often been compared to animals, but in reality that is a tremendous insult – to the animals! Their hideously abusive treatment of dogs is only reflective of their overall barbarism and moral inferiority as a race. Look at how they treat EACH OTHER – let alone more civilized groups of people.

    • WA

      Blacks and other non-whites( eg Asians, Arabs) tend to be more selfish, more cruel and tend to bully others who are deemed weaker, slower or of no benefit to them or to their cause. Just beware of them and avoid them, whenever possible..
      Just avoid asking them for any “help”.

  3. I wonder about dogs in particular. It seems like dogs have particularly been pets/hunting companions among people in the White world pretty much from Europe thru Russia and Persia for centuries, but not so much in other places, among other peoples. The Muslim aversion towards dogs seems so odd to Westerners, and I wonder if it’s not just Muslim in origin. I wish somebody would take a scholarly look into this.

  4. Dota

    Animal rights is to my mind one of the finer accomplishments of Western civilization. It must be noted Robert that classical Islam was very animal friendly. I quoted a Hadith earlier and there are numerous others. Even whilst slaughtering Cows, Halal laws dictate that one should not be slaughtered in front of another; lest it traumatize the animal. Indians similarly respect certain animals such as cows, elephants (the deity Ganesh) and
    monkeys (the deity Hanuman was a monkey). The Ancient Indian fables recorded in the Panchatantra make extensive use of animals as protagonists embodying virtue and vice alike. Despite all of this I have noticed that Arabs and Indians just don’t get animals.

    The philosophy behind animal welfare is solely a Western construct

    • I think so, and it’s relatively recent. 100 years ago, Whites were perfectly horrible to wild animals.

    • Arab culture is exceedingly cruel, but I am not aware that they are cruel to animals. Nor are Muslims in general, which seems odd. As far as wild animals go, Arabs have the typical 3rd World “kill em all” mindset.

      • Kubak

        and 2000 years ago at the peak of roman civilization we whites where doing the most perverse blood spectacles ever imagined, which included gladiators, mock sea battles, animal hunts, gladiators against any big and ferocious animal, lions eating Christians, crucifixions, and that´s just the Roman Empire, during medieval times, 600 years ago the most interesting machines of torture were develped to test the faith of the flock. And of course the holocaust in one of the most developed nations of the western world only 70 years ago, I think we as a species are pretty savage. I don´t thing there´s a race that has a monopoly on that, let´s not forget that the 20th century was the most bloody century of all…and the biggest and bloodiest wars all ocurred in Europe.

        • All that matters is right now. If I am walking down the street at 3 AM and a White guy in a suit and tie comes up behind me, I don’t think, “Oh noes! He’s from the same race that did the Holocaust!”

          You must also differentiate between organized and unorganized violence. There is something particularly destructive about unorganized violence (street crime).

        • Kubak

          Agreed Robert, what matters is today, for instance in Mexico most of the drug lords and even middleman criminals have a very white look, you can see for yourself
          some of the main criminals:

          http://www.sipse.com/noticias/73920–grandes-capos-detenidos-guerra-contra-narco.html

          an I would not dare to be in the way of any of them, they are as savage as it gets…all I´m saying is that there is no monopoly in violence, german solderis, as in WWII as brute as it gets

      • WA

        Most Arabs in this day and age are light skin blacks and therefore, it is not surprising that cruel arab culture have a lot in common with cruel black culture.

      • Dutchie

        Well I am aware that Arab/Muslims are curled towards dogs. Read the Quran and find out for your self.

    • Truth Speaker

      Animal rights is to my mind one of the finer accomplishments of Western civilization.

      It’s a nice theory. For, say, every cat skinned alive in China you have maybe a million chickens and/or cows living in the West in worse than death camp conditions thanks to excessive meat consumption (as compared to excessively low everywhere else). Anecdotes are a powerful thing.

      Not to mention that Agent Orange and Depleted Uranium no doubt killed off millions of non-humans. Whites are good at drawing imaginary borders – what happens before animal products arrive in a grocery store or overseas don’t “mentally” register. This capacity for self-delusion is amazing.

  5. johnUK

    Blacks love animals.

    What about black doing charity work in general?

    Despite all their wealth you do not see many blacks into philanthropy with the exception of Opera Winfrey supporting their “hommies” in Africa.

    In fact they probably are wearing African blood diamonds or there “bling” as they call it cruising around in there luxury cars and walking around in the mansions “cribs”.
    .

    • johnUK: “Despite all their wealth you do not see many blacks into philanthropy with the exception of Opera Winfrey supporting their “hommies” in Africa.”

      Correction: “Despite all their wealth you don’t see many blacks (IN THE MEDIA) into philanthropy…”

      How many blacks do you see in the media period? No where near as many whites.

      johnUK: “In fact they probably are wearing African blood diamonds or there “bling” as they call it cruising around in there luxury cars and walking around in the mansions “cribs”.”

      And? White folks don’t wear jewellery? They don’t drive luxury cars? They don’t live live mansions? They don’t exploit Africans? Or even their own country men?

      • Blacks don’t give much to charity, it’s been proven. That’s even controlling for income. Even moneyed or wealthy Blacks do not give much to charity.

        Whites give the most to charity. And I think poorer Whites give a lot more of their income than wealthier Whites.

        I don’t know why Blacks don’t give to charity. There are so many things that I don’t understand about Black people.

        • louie jacuzzi

          Does tithing in church count

        • louie jacuzzi

          Mega churches come from something….

        • huax

          To be fair it’s hard to justify putting charitable giving alongside income. Blacks in America have very little to their names, the average black person is worth only a few thousand dollars, maybe 1/28th how much the average white American is worth.

          They have to spend a lot of their incomes on healthcare, rent, etc … among other things.

        • Even when you control for income, Blacks don’t give a fuckin dime. Even rich Blacks give nothing. And the poorest Whites give the most of all.

          It’s fits in with my theory though that Blacks in general are self-centered, egotistic, self-oriented, selfish, and deficient in empathy. That correlates with extroversion too though.

        • Gay State Girl

          Huax
          How would you explain the lack of Asian involvement in charitable and social justice organizations?

        • huax

          1) We don’t steal from everyone else in the first place
          2) We make sure our family members aren’t homeless/overly debt-burdened
          3) We hardly ever get any of the diseases people beg for money for
          4) We already subsidize you through pooled insurance, public health, crime and educational spending
          5) … and we still donate quite a lot of money

          On balance East Asians give the most to everyone else – just not in a showy, obnoxious way that is actually pragmatic and effective over the long run.

        • I think East Asians are charitable people. Basically communal types.

        • huax

          East Asians are unfailing net benefactors and contributors no matter where they go.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_distribution_of_wealth

          I don’t understand how that can happen if East Asians are supposedly as stingy as American corporate whores want their all zombies to believe.

        • Asians are very charitable within close social and familial circles. They are the most charitable hosts I know of. “Neither a borrower or a lender be” seems to be the motto that dictates Asian charity. In other words, get your shit in order, be self-sufficient, and bend over backwards for your family and friends. This is one of the more admirable Asian qualities IMO.

        • huax

          I would say Chinese people are kind to out groups too, but since most people don’t understand the differences between groups of people within East Asia (including East Asians themselves) this is often poorly understood.

          The Cantonese and Hoklo are a bit more clannish however, and they are the vast majority of Chinese in Western countries.

        • tulio

          Quit lying about us! I’m getting sick of it. I’m on the verge now of just leaving this blog for good.

          I ask people to substantiate their “observations” and aphorisms. Nobody does. So here’s to that bullshit about blacks not giving to charity:

          http://philanthropy.com/article/Affluent-Blacks-Differ-in/124654/

        • What? Blacks give to charity? Young Blacks give to environmental and animal rights groups? Incredible. Thx for the link. I was getting my info from American Renaissance.

        • Blacks give more to charity than Whites? Incredible.

        • louie jacuzzi

          Well then, I guess blacks don’t care so much for dogs bc we’re too busy caring about each other, just sayin…not to mention all that activism and community service we do.

      • johnUK

        @3agle3yes

        How many blacks do you see in the media period? No where near as many whites.

        In the music industry I would say they have a significant representation not just in performing artists but as writers and producers.
        They also have a noticeable presence in film and TV.

        “And? White folks don’t wear jewellery? They don’t drive luxury cars? They don’t live live mansions? They don’t exploit Africans? Or even their own country men?”

        They don’t act like an ass like all these black rappers overtly flaunting jewellery and their wealth buying complete shit as a status symbol.

        If I was a black American I would be pissed of at these clowns talking about representing “the hood”.

        I will give credit to Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam though for supporting Gadaffi.

        • johnUK: “In the music industry I would say they have a significant representation not just in performing artists but as writers and producers.
          They also have a noticeable presence in film and TV.”

          Okay (albeit a small minority), but do they make headlines? Are they always in the media, other than when doing their jobs?

          johnUK: “They don’t act like an ass like all these black rappers overtly flaunting jewellery and their wealth buying complete shit as a status symbol.”

          Okay, so under this logic. Someone can commit murder, but as long as they don’t look “like an ass” that’s all dandy.

          Well, duh. They’re rappers! Rappers do not represent black people…that’s why rappers are called rappers. So what do white rappers do? Besides I know plenty of black rappers who do not do this.

          johnUK: “If I was a black American I would be pissed of at these clowns talking about representing “the hood”.”

          Why would African Americans get angry. Those “clowns” represent a certain group in the neighbourhood. If anybody believes all blacks in “the hood” are like this they’re ignorant…and need to investigate this for themselves before they start calling generalisations “fact”.

        • Robert Lindsay, I suspect you and Amren were correct. If blacks rally around Vick, why wouldn’t they cionduct biased research about philanthropic giving? Follow the link to the organization that conducted the study, look at the picture of Marguerite.

          “Marguerite has received recognition from Chicago United as a 2007 Business Leader of Color.”

          http://www.northerntrust.com/pws/jsp/display2.jsp?TYPE=interior&XML=pages/nt/0905/1243609879646_11.xml

          Study says this, studies say that. Here is an interesting finding from the study: ” Black donors who make at least $250,000 or who have $1-million in assets also tend to give anonymously and to nonprofits they know well.”

          How does she know they are black if they are anonymous?

      • Gay State Girl

        That is certainly true

        “We already subsidize you through pooled insurance, public health, crime and educational spending”
        You don’t subsidize ME. Orthodox Jews generally don’t have a crime rate, have private insurance, send their children to Orthodox day schools etc.

        No one is obligated to give to charity but don’t pretend to be something you’re not.
        I’ve seen plenty of goofy Asian chicks at animal rights group meetings, but they were never serious about doing dirty work. They just wanted to play with the puppies and kitties.

        • huax

          Please tally me the cost of the world financial crisis, give Jews a 25% share of that figure (whites everything else) and tell me whether or not the money East Asians have been forced to hand over to bail out your banks counts as a subsidy.

          Which brings me to the next point, East Asians contribute a large share of taxes, as almost all of them aren’t poor enough to have low tax rates but not rich enough to dodge and squirrel their money away overseas like wealthy whites do (not that they would; East Asians are inherently less criminal than whites).

          Then take the miserable interest that East Asian nations earn on propping America’s financial system up, and compare that rate of return to the performance of their sovereign wealth funds (10-15% growth a year over decades), and simulate the effects of us pulling all that money out and redirecting it to more profitable ventures.

          And finally, take away the net hundreds of billions Japan and other East Asian nations have invested in physical and other assets in the US, employing US workers.

          Yes, you are being subsidized, directly or indirectly. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not calling you a parasite or a welfare addict. But you are being subsidized – everyone in America is.

        • huax

          Lastly animal rights groups are attention whores that hardly mitigate (what you would term as) monstrous crimes committed against non-humans by whites and their corporations and militaries.

          Those goofy Asian chicks are probably idiots, and not of true East Asian descent. Simply by not stuffing their faces with pork products they are doing more for animals than every Western “animal rights group” combined.

        • Car Guy

          Huax,

          You’re not painting a full picture. The billions that East Asia has invested in the U.S. — that is still not free money, irregardless of how “little“ interest is paid on the debt investments. Also, if foreign capital investments are considered subsidies, then Chinese people are one hell of a subsidized people. If we were to net how much U.S. companies invest in East Asia versus how much the East invests in the U.S., I wonder which region would come out the the most subsidized…

          I think you blowing things out of proportions.

        • WA

          Yes, I agree with you. Those stingy, inhumane asians are just interested in playing with the puppies.And those asians resent having to clean up after animals. that is why most of them are unfit to take care of animal or human.

      • Dutchie

        Actually for a minority that only makes up a little over 12% of the population you see a lot of blacks in the media. Also it has been shown that wealthy, and middle class blacks in general do not take part in charity work other then charity for black Americans, or black foreigners. Black people often won’t even donate to help feed hungry children unless it says something about black children, or shows pictures of black people.

    • Re: The video. It’s the stuff of night mares! I hope she didn’t get pregnant!!

    • tulio

      Well, if we’re gonna play this game:

      http://2guys1horse.com/

    • Black are also notorious for being very bad tippers. (cheap skates)

      • Dutchie

        That is actually true and even black people know it. I dated a black woman who’s family was from Jamaica, and Panama and she worked as a waitress in VA, she hated serving black Americans.

  6. Robert Lindsay: “See I was right. Blacks don’t get animal rights. UM doesn’t either. He’s Hispanic.”

    I’m black and I get animal rights, I know a few white women that don’t like animals though…

    Robert Lindsay: “What we call ghetto Blacks?! AFAICT, they are barely even human beings to me. They’re nothing but fuckin animals, and I do NOT mean that in a good way. It’s very hard to see the humanity of a lot of folks like that. We really have to work at it. It’s hard to describe how much those Blacks disgust Whites like me and my kind.”

    What in your description is a “ghetto black”?

    Bay Area Guy: “I’ll invoke Newton’s 3rd law. Black people (or at least the organized elements of the black community, in addition to the online black blogosphere) are frequently agitating about race and getting in white peoples’ faces about race.”

    So this is why? How about the whites during the slave trade…that thought black people belonged in the museum. Marveling at the black genitalia and the black women’s bottom? And those that thought blacks didn’t have the same rights?

    Bay Area Guy: “Well, maybe I’m just speaking for myself, but animals never lecture me about my “white privilege,” say that only whites can be racist, demand that I make room for them, angrily denounce us in some of their “comedy” routines (think Paul Mooney), etc.”

    Maybe you should consider looking after a “brick wall”.

    Bay Area Guy: “Besides, I’m never on guard for a pitbull whenever I’m riding public transportation.”

    BAG how often do you get attacked out in public? Be honest.

    Robert Lindsay: “Yeah but that sucks. No way would Whites rally around some White guy who was charged with doing what he did. 1/2 of the White population would be screaming to string the guy up. Seriously.”

    Do you seriously think this was the first man in the NFL that had ever gotten involved in cock-fighting?

    Truth Speaker: “It’s a nice theory. For, say, every cat skinned alive in China you have maybe a million chickens and/or cows living in the West in worse than death camp conditions thanks to excessive meat consumption (as compared to excessively low everywhere else). Anecdotes are a powerful thing.

    Not to mention that Agent Orange and Depleted Uranium no doubt killed off millions of non-humans. Whites are good at drawing imaginary borders – what happens before animal products arrive in a grocery store or overseas don’t “mentally” register. This capacity for self-delusion is amazing.”

    Good points Truth Speaker, besides why does it seriously matter how certain people treat animals?

    • DOG fighting. Not cock fighting. There’s a world of difference too.

      And he executed a number of those dogs too, with his own bare hands. And he tortured dogs too. He’s a piece of shit, and that’s all there is to it.

      • Robert Lindsay: “DOG fighting.”

        Okay “DOG fighting”. I don’t see how the actions of one man represent a race or a nation?

        • He ran a dog fighting ring with a bunch of other Blacks. Black men came to watch the dogfights. But that’s not a very good argument.

          A much better argument is that the entire Black community, all the way up to President Obama, defended this POS! And yeah, that behavior does represent the entire ethnic group, right. That really pissed White people off too, let me tell you. That and the Black defense of OJ. You have no idea.

        • tulio

          Obama defended Michael Vick’s dog-fighting? This is news to me, please post a source for this.

        • Jules The Mule

          Those who dare add up 2 and 2 know very well they will defend ANYTHING if it has been committed by “one of their own”. So far their allegiance to the human “race”. I have had enough experience with their mindset in my own daily life with this sort of thing.

      • louie jacuzzi

        So you’re ok with cock fighting robert?! So inconsistent, lol…naw just fuckin with you.

        • Blacks don’t do cockfighting. That’s Mexicans and Filipinos. I’m not even sure Blacks do dogfighting all that much. Do they? Maybe a few of them do. Are there any figures on how many Blacks are into this crap? I have no idea.

          What got Whites was not that a few of these Black POS’s were dogfighting, murdering dogs, torturing dogs and all that. One could argue that it was just a few people, and that’s hardly enough to indict a race.

          What got us was the way the entire Black nation rallied around this psycho piece of shit! Yeah. White people got really mad about that. Even Obama defended this fuckin maniac. Incredible.

        • Let me make one thing clear to you though. To be completely honest, what I really don’t like are Africans. You guys, I don’t really mind that much. Compared to Africans, you US Blacks seem like latte sipping Swedes. As bad as US Black behavior is, it’s light years ahead of African behavior, which is truly and unbelievably appalling. At least millions of US Blacks have some semblance of civilized behavior, and many are exemplary people.

          And it really makes me mad when people call you guys Africans. You’re not. You’re 300 years away from there, and substantially de-Africanized, thank God. Genes aren’t everything you know.

        • louie jacuzzi

          I’ll sum it up like this, and I think a healthy bulk of black people feel this way: It’s fucking dogs!! After the way blacks have been treated in this country until about 45 years ago, and millions of brown people mowed down by America in the last 10 years and the 10s of millions of aborted babies since Roe v. Wade, white people have the nerve to scream for blood over dead dogs, GTFOHWTBS!!!

        • tulio

          Robert, dude, you need to seriously stop with these broad generalization. I don’t know where you keep getting your information from about “Africa.” At a certain point you need to stop haranguing about a place you have never set foot. Whites travel to Africa ALL THE TIME. Yes, by choice. I know more than a few myself. Even sole white females that have been in black Africa and nothing happened to them. They don’t get killed or eaten by a bunch of savages. Africa’s not a damn country, it’s a continent. It’s not this through and through frightening, horrifically savage place you keep portraying it to be. You keep reading this tales from European explorers about “savagery” in Africa. People who didn’t understand nothing about the cultures they were attempting to enslave and colonize. Quite making Africa into this boogeyman.

        • louie jacuzzi

          Thanks again Tulio

        • I’ll sum it up like this, and I think a healthy bulk of black people feel this way: It’s fucking dogs!!

          Yeah, see, that’s exactly what I was getting at in my post. See? Blacks don’t care about animals. Assuming that’s true, well, Black people suck then.

          Is this how most people on Earth feel? Maybe. But most people on Earth are basically savages, and most people on Earth suck, and we Whites are just superior.

          See, this is why we Whites think we are better. That attitude, “It’s fucking dogs,” that’s the attitude of savages, and unfortunately, this is an indication that Blacks are still savages, sadly.

          We Whites have moved above and beyond the default savagery of basic man. We’ve transcended that. We’re better. Will the other races follow us? Who knows?

          I wasn’t aware that Blacks cared about Roe v. Wade. If this were a majority Black country, there’d be no controversy about abortion. Blacks get abortions at by far the highest rate of all.

        • Alpha Unit

          Okay. Great. Somebody give you guys a medal so we can move on.

        • tulio

          Or maybe something is wrong with whites for treating pets like people. Maybe it’s non-whites that are more down to earth and sensible and less naively idealistic about anthropomorphizing animals.

          See it’s much more consistent to say “hey, they’re just animals!” But if you are a SWPL type of white, now you have to figure out where to draw the line. Why do they go nuts because a Chinese eats a dog, but don’t when a white eats a cow? They don’t anthropomorphize frogs and fish. Why not? Why do they do it with dogs an cats but not squirrels?

        • I will not stop bashing Africa and Africans. It’s claled the Dark Continent for a reason.

          FUCK Africa.

          FUCK Africans.

          We don’t have to read old books about what savages they are over there. It’s going on right now to this very day. Just right now, the famine refugees from Somalia are fleeing to Kenya, where they are being mass raped by some typical African male rapists (African male and rapist are synonyms). And this is in a nonwar zone. This is normal, everyday behavior in Africa.

          Africa is fucked because of Africans. Africans have fucked Africa because Africans are savages. Period.

        • louie jacuzzi

          The roe v wade thing is my personal issue… I’ll echo tulio and say that our attitude towards dogs is a reflection of adequate perspective, sure we like dogs(in general) but we see a line of distinction between dogs and humans. A few weeks I ran over a skunk. Sure I felt bad for taking a life, but should I have reported it to insurance co? Hell no! Maybe you can play the specieist card on me I guess, but in as much as no one will fault a cowboy for shooting his lame horse, or a farmer for euthanizing his rabid dog, I have a tough time demanding the life penalty for a guy who participated in dog fighting…..btw abortion clinics are over represented in poor and working class black communities. From it’s inception, planned parenthood was a eugenics scheme. Our women have more abortions because they’re dispraportionately poor, and have fewer options than others. While abortions themselves are practiced more in black communities, black attitudes towards abortion are generally negative.

        • We keep dogs as pets, so it’s fucked up to eat them. It’s that simple. Some animals you eat, some are your pets, some are wild. You treat them all differently compared to how they rank in human society.

          Blacks don’t think Chinese are fucked up for eating dogs? Too bad on them. They should. If they keep them as pets, they should get mad at people who eat them.

          It’s not ok to say they’re all just animals. That’s why we have animal cruelty laws. You can’t do the same thing to dog or a cat as you can to a cow or a pig. You can execute a cow or a pig and eat it. You can kill wild animals with guns and arrows. If you don’t that to a dog or a cat you go to prison. That’s because White people wrote our laws. I’d hate to see what kind of laws a Black America would write. They’d probably get rid of all the animal cruelty laws.

        • He got 2 years in prison, which was more than enough. Blacks were universally outraged over the sentence and thought it was extreme. That’s unfortunately a savage attitude on the part of Blacks.

          See trend here? Blacks have a basis lack of empathy, are self-centered and ego-oriented. They care more about themselves than about others. Blacks don’t tip. Lack of empathy. Blacks don’t give to charity. Lack of empathy. Out of control Black crime. Lack of empathy. Unconcern about cruelty to animals. Lack of empathy.

          An argument many Whites make about Blacks is that in general they seem to have lower morals than Whites. We think their morals are too low. And what does that tie back into? Lack of empathy.

          It all ties together.

        • louie jacuzzi

          Lack of empathy? Hmm? So all that pre-integration communalism came from a people who lacked empathy? Rappers/athletes who go broke taking care of their homies lack empathy? Those historical reports by leo africanus and ibn bhatutta about songhai having an economic system that strongly resembles modern socialism, that comes from a people lacking empathy? All those blacks in mixed families raising and caring for someone else’s children lack empathy? I’m sure all those misfits who found sanctuary among blacks would agree with you about our general lack of empathy.

        • Gay State Girl

          Lindsay
          I worked with Ugandan immigrants and was pleasantly surprised. They do not bear the same grudge or hostility towards US whites. They didn’t even mind that my Mom was South African and that I had spent much time there during my childhood. A couple guys tried to hit on me, which was an annoyance but other than that, they were more well behaved than US blacks.

        • Gay State Girl

          Gay Area Guy
          I heard that mountain lions live near the Gay Area. One even made its way to a Berkeley Starbucks

          “blacks are like latte sipping Swedes”
          Then give me Africans any day.

    • Bay Area Guy

      @ agle

      Okay, first of all, I was hoping you would somehow be able to respond without invoking the slave trade, but I’ve come to expect such retorts.

      I’m talking about whites TODAY. You’re going to have to do better than invoking the 18th century Transatlantic slave trade.

      No, I have not been attacked in public, but I have been accosted by blacks on occasion.

      Maybe you should consider looking after a “brick wall”.

      Your point being?!!

  7. johnUK

    The more backwards parts of Europe still treat animals poorly. I posted a video a while ago of Serbian dogcatchers strangling stray dogs.

    So they are treated better than actual Serbs with the US anti-Christ Nazis and there fellow European allies enacting there final solution against the Serbs in Kosovo with NATO Nazis firing on unarmed Serbian protestors.

    http://grayfalcon.blogspot.com/2011/09/showdown.html

    http://grayfalcon.blogspot.com/2011/09/and-there-was-blood.html

  8. tulio

    Maybe whites love animals too much. That’s why bestiality is done by whites 99% of the time. This is one of the things blacks joke about whites when they aren’t around. Why do whites kiss their dogs, and let them sleep in the bed, and dress them in clothes and some even have sex with their dogs. To us that’s “crazy white people shit.” If blacks saw another black kissing their dog on the mouth, they’d think he lost his mind. At the same time, we aren’t cruel to dogs either by and large. I think blacks have the right balance. We aren’t dog nuts like white people letting them lay in the bed with us, but we aren’t exactly doing the crazy shit to them that Chinese do either. We just treat them as pets, not as people with 4 legs.

    • You’re right about that. Whites seem to believe that by treating their dogs as if they’re human children, they can make up for not having their own kids. Pathetic.

    • Sure, you’re not cruel to them by and large, but you defend dog murderers and dog torturers. That’s savage behavior right there, see?

      I don’t know if there is any valid racial breakdown on bestiality. White might do it more because a lot more of them live in rural areas.

      • Robert Lindsay: “Sure, you’re not cruel to them by and large, but you defend dog murderers and dog torturers. That’s savage behavior right there, see?”

        First of all, I DO NOT defend dog murderers. So your claim about blacks defending dog murderers is incorrect….and we here involved in this board aren’t any different from those who are not.

        Second, What were these people’s reasons for defending Michael Vick?

        Robert Lindsay: “I don’t know if there is any valid racial breakdown on bestiality. White might do it more because a lot more of them live in rural areas.”

        Oh, they live in rural areas…that’s fine then. Listen I don’t care about whether or not whites are more involved in bestiality or not…this doesn’t make them “immoral” or “perverted”….People are people. Here in the UK these claims would be absurd.

      • tulio

        Nobody was defending the behavior. Maybe some thought the penalty was too much. I still hear animals rights types angry that he’s back out and playing football. The guy served his time. Leave him alone. It’s not like he’s still doing it. I mean for fuck sakes, you can get out of jail in Sweden within 10 years if you murder someone. Yet these whites in America want to put the guy in jail for life for dog fighting. Gimme a break! Come on Robert, blacks on this issue are more sensible than whites.

        • They were all defending him, they were all saying he should not be prosecuted. They didn’t want him to do one day, much less two years. Saying he shouldn’t go to prison is as bad as defending him.

          I think what this all shows is a basic deficiency of empathy that is characteristic of the Black race on average. And I’m not sure why they are like this.

        • tulio

          Okay look, does anyone here even have a poll or a news link or anything to back up the claim that blacks somehow overwhelming love Michael Vick and support him. Including Mr. President himself(according to Robert). I’m getting a little tired of all the hearsay and anecdotes. I’ve never even heard any black I know defending Michael Vick or even talking about him much. Most people I know could give a fuck about him, especially if they are like me and don’t even watch football in the first place. Prior to that controversy I never even heard of the guy.

        • Obama supports the savage Michael Vick. No way should this guy have been allowed back on the field. He should have been banned for life.

        • tulio

          “The president also noted that formerly incarcerated individuals deserve a second chance to contribute to our society and that Vick’s success is a reminder of that fact.”

          I don’t see how that constitutes in any way defending Vick personally or his act. All he said is that the man served his time and once people get out they deserve a second chance to contribute to society. I don’t see what’s so controversial about quote. And who cares anyway? He’s just a guy being paid to throw a ball around a grass field. Who said one needs to be of great character for this job? It’s not like he’s being made a Kindergarten teacher or Obama cabinet member. He’s just an athlete. That’s all.

        • I swear to God, so help me God, if any White quarterback was ever convicted of such horrible offenses, I am quite certain that there would be loud screams from White society that he be banned from pro football for life. Of course I could be wrong. Maybe Whites would want him back.

          Some things are just unforgivable.

          I think back in the old days of White football, I cannot imagine any White player, quarterback or otherwise, doing 2 years in prison for such a crime and then coming back onto the field. I don’t believe it ever happened. Show me one White ballplayer who did years in prison for a heinous crime and then was allowed to set one foot in the field again. Show me one, one, one, one.

          This is another way that the Blackening of pro sports has increased savagery and less civilized behavior with decreased morals. Black players as a group are more savage, have lower morals and exhibit less civilized behavior than White ballplayers. A fool could have predicted that this would occur.

          Does he deserve a 2nd chance in society? No problem! Does he get to set one Goddamned foot on a gridiron ever again? No fuckin way.

          The fact that Blacks think he should play again and Whites think he should be banned for life shows you right there how Blacks sort of “play fast and loose” with moral values. With Whites, morals are set in stone. With Blacks, morals are like “hey whatever.”

        • Alpha Unit

          What’s actually clashing here are two different sets of moral values.

        • tulio

          I agree with alpha. To me he’s just a damn football player. I don’t look up to football players as heros, iconoclasts, people to emulate, role models or anything like that. They are just people who are skilled at throwing a ball around. If they do this well enough, it attracts crowds who enjoying watching this spectacle(I don’t) and they can sell seats. That’s all it is to me. Now if someone were to talk about letting OJ Simpson play again, that’s another story. I think Americans are way too obsessed with the personal lives of athletes, musicians and actors. When it comes down to it, it’s just a job. Not clergy or supreme court justice or Boy Scout leader. I don’t care about the personal life of Michael Vick anymore than I care about the personal life of my plumber.

        • Alpha Unit

          What Robert seems to be saying is that what Michael Vick did is beyond the pale, where his moral values are concerned, something for which there is no forgiveness. It wouldn’t matter if an athlete or banker or plumber or whoever did it.

          As for a lot of other people’s morals, it doesn’t rise to that level.

          Is there any kind of resolution of these kinds of differences? I don’t know.

        • tulio

          I agree. Good clarification, Alpha.

        • Hacienda

          “Is there any kind of resolution of these kinds of differences?”

          That nat’l championship game he had at Cho’s school- Virginia Tech That game was the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen from a football player. Just like Cho was the most amazing single day single gun killer America has ever seen. Coincidence? I think not. No LOL, here. It’s deep. There’s a message here that needs to be decoded. Something about power and talent and killing. Maybe, if you worship at the alter of power and talent, even untalented fucks like Cho can kill you? Maybe, life’s just crazy and can’t be understood and that’s just the way it is.

          Vick is one those rare super-talented athletes that get special treatment and all kinds of rules are broken. Like Chamberlain where they had to make the lane bigger, Tiger where they had to change golf courses. He clearly burned too bright. I like the guy, he’s reformed, apparently. I hope he wins a Super Bowl.

        • Michael Vick is a nigger. Period. If you’re Black and you fight dogs, you’re just a nigger. Bottom line, that’s all there is to it.

          Now, if you’re White and you fight dogs, are you a nigger too? Maybe. Maybe not. But whatever you are, you’re just as bad as a nigger. You’re a wigger. You really need to be thrown out of White society.

          And a lot of Whites fight dogs. In the rural South, it’s a big thing. But a lot of rural Southern Whites are niggers anyway, de facto. Funny, the most rapidly racist Black-hating Whites of all are the most niggerish Whites of all. Go figure. And the less racist a White person is, the more civilized they act. So, if you’re White, the more you hate niggers, the more you are one?

          WTF.

        • Hacienda

          “WTF.”

          That’s a Chinaman’s argument. I thought I was the only one allowed to that kind of mockery here. More of that crap, I’ll have to demote you to Class 2 Chinaman.

        • Dota

          Alpha Unit

          “What’s actually clashing here are two different sets of moral values.”

          No. Whats clashing here are two sets of gross generalizations. Whites accusing Blacks of cruelty and blacks accusing whites of perversion. Whites and Afro Americans are a lot more alike than most people think. They are both Westerners and both of them practice a shared set of Western values. If you guys want to see alien values, take Hindutva out for a spin sometime. I wish your two peoples would just get along, especially here. We’re had this racial mud slinging before and it just blows.

          Huax

          I get your argument about western hypocrisy pertaining to slaughter methods and the treatment of cattle/chicken ect…
          The reason I have to disagree is because there are several activist groups that are working against this stuff. Do such exist in China? If they do, I’d like to know since my knowledge of China is almost zero. And welcome back, Wade just made his comeback too so ist going to be a sunny day on this blog ;)

        • Alpha Unit

          Thank you for pointing this out to me. I’m all for hearing exactly what Blacks and Whites in this country have in common.

    • johnUK

      I don’t know who has sex with animals more but there are video documentaries on Youtube of white Americans having sex with animals like Animal Passions that aired some years ago on Channel 4 (UK) and the US film Zoo about a group of Americans who would meet up in Washington to videotape and have sex with horses.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enumclaw_horse_sex_case

      I think BAG and Dota were part of his group. :)

      • Robert Lindsay: “I think what this all shows is a basic deficiency of empathy that is characteristic of the Black race on average. And I’m not sure why they are like this.”

        LOL. Admit it Robert…or can I call you Bobby? You love us. You do know hate and love are opposite sides of the same coin right?

        • Alpha Unit

          Yes. Shouldn’t we all get along? We are all made of stars.

        • I don’t hate Blacks. I hate Africans, but I’ll make an exception for you.

          I’m confident that most Whites feel this way about Blacks, even most liberal Whites. I’ve talked to a lot of them about this. Most Whites, even liberal Whites, seem to think that Blacks in general have poor morals or low morals, however you want to put it. Very widespread attitude. And many of the Whites who feel this way don’t hate Blacks. It’s just a basic observation, no reason to hate them.

        • tulio

          Ah man, I’m tempted to put you in touch with some of the whites I know that have been to African. Who have literally taken food off their own tables to give to visitors. I really wish you’d knock it off. If you ever did go to Africa, guess what? You’d find a whole lot of guys like the above that you’d have to keep making “exceptions” for. Then you’d find so many exceptions you’d come to realization that generalizing about the character of an entire continent of extremely diverse cultures is foolhardy and just plain racist.

        • Fine, I’m a racist. I hate Africa. And I’m not too keen on Africans in general.

          Talk about savages! Africans wrote the book on savagery!

    • huax

      Chinese people don’t do “crazy shit” to dogs; a rare, tiny minority might skin them (with 10000000x inflated media coverage) but that’s business. Blacks don’t produce food and they don’t do business. Without other races at least 25% of blacks would be dead within a year, and another 50% in a decade.

      • They skin them alive, and the society accepts that!

        However, those are raccoon dogs, but still.

        Also the Chinese kill dogs in the most horrible way because then the meat supposedly tastes better.

        The Chinese are just cruel people. That’s the WN view, and I agree with that. As far as cruelty goes, the Chinese are a bunch of niggers. Savages, primitives, barbarians, uncivilized, backwards people. Sure “nigger savage” is the default for all of humanity and all races, but this is the 21st Century and we are supposed to move along now.

        This is sheer animal ism, Chinese need to get with the program and quit being such a bunch of savages.

        • huax

          Not really. You can live in China for 10 years and never see any of that, ever. Don’t believe everything you see on Jew media.

          And that nonsense about torturing the animal so the meat tastes better, I’ve certainly never heard of it. More Jew media blood libel.

        • Gay State Girl

          Huax
          Oh buck up. You get off pretty easy compared to other races. Now if Jewish women ran the media, it would be a completely different story…

        • huax

          We only get off easy compared to Arabs; but Jews and Arabs hate each other. The Jew media hates East Asians for different reasons.

        • Gay State Girl

          You just looking to get your share of the victimhood pie? The Jewish media goes after the Chinese and North Korean governments but fawns over East Asians in general. Get over it, you’re not a victim.

        • Gay State Girl

          I told Norman Finkelstein. You criticize sanctimonious worship of the Holocaust but then you apply that same worship to the Palestinians. You always associate anything Palestinian as “good” and that’s a dangerous road to go down. He was speechless, he knew he had no argument against me.

        • Jet Li

          what? i don’t support animal cruelty, but ceirtanly i wouldn’t call the chinese savages for doing it either, is part of our animal nature, the lions aren’t gentle when they kill their food, why the people would do it? is not like the chinese kill fellow humans ( i wouldn’t be able to torture an animal, but i wouldn’t call savage a culture that accepts it, if i were chinese like Jet Li i am sure what would be normal to me, and that should be respected)

      • louie jacuzzi

        Huax anyone who’s watched a Basil davidsom doc, or read an achebe novel knows about blacks and production of millet, sorghum, and yams…certainly you’ve head of palm wine, millet beer, etc. So much of africa’s food production capacity has been destroyed by trying western style indusrtialism in a region that was not made for that

      • tulio

        Another one of these “blacks would drop dead if it weren’t for other races.” By that logic there shouldn’t be any black people alive period since they were alive for thousands of years before whites showed up in Africa. We are basically your parents. You can from *us*. Don’t forget that.

  9. Bay Area Guy: “I’m talking about whites TODAY. You’re going to have to do better than invoking the 18th century Transatlantic slave trade.”

    My bad. No whites are discriminating blacks TODAY, they don’t pull up research suggesting blacks have lower IQ than whites, they’ve completely abandoned the ideologies and “old ways” of thinking from the predecessors.

    I’ve been deliberately picked out by police, I’ve have had insults and I some times I cause fear within people without doing a damn thing and many more things….All this outside America even in countries where you don’t see “Black people…frequently agitating about race and getting in white peoples’ faces about race.”

    Question BAG, why do you some blacks are agitating about race? I think Newton’s 3rd Law applies here too.

  10. Gay State Girl

    It’s okay to be exclusively charitable among your own people as Asians and Orthodox Jews are. I actually find secular Tikkun Olam type Jews to be quite hypocritical.
    But in respect to your general population, what percentage of Chinese are involved in social justice organizations? Among the student population?

    “We don’t get diseases you die from”
    That’s all gonna change…

    • huax

      “That’s all gonna change…”

      I hear this a lot from people who hate China, it’s a bit of a phenomenon. And as I say to them, explain how Chinese Americans have one of the highest (if not THE highest) life expectancies in the world?

      So China will be more American than Chinese Americans in 10 years? 20 years? 5 years? Tomorrow?

      No offense but this is Gordon Chang level inanity.

      “what percentage of Chinese are involved in social justice organizations?”

      What percent of whites and Jews actually create social justice – meaning measurable in practical, measurable results?

      But to answer your question, I have no idea. But anecdotes are good enough so “every Chinese person know” should suffice.

      • huax

        ** observable with practical and measurable results

        Likewise Chinese people donating “within” the ethnic group means little given how genetically diverse Chinese people are. And they give tons to minorities in China.

      • Gay State Girl

        China is among the most polluted places in the world. East Asia has a higher rate of tobacco consumption and relies on coal to generate electricity. China now leads the US in CO2 emissions since 2006 (my great grand father, who was a coal merchant died of lung cancer from sheer exposure to the unlit coal) and the debris from the Japanese nuclear reactor which all should be cause for concern. Lung cancer should take care of a good chunk of the population.
        It’s not that we’re less suceptible to diseases or that our behavior and lifestyle dictate it. Most of the 20th century epidemics in Western countries were man made.

  11. Gay State Girl

    I told you I am in favor of wiening the US off Chinese support as well as wiening Israel off US support. I don’t mind living more frugally.

    What is “true East Asian descent,” BTW?

    • huax

      As in she’s not some kind of phenotypic Southeast Asian. Lots of the most whitewashed girls are the brown, squat, homely ones that white men are crazy about.

      • Hacienda

        huax,

        Welcome back. I was gonna take care a lot of the nonsense about white’s new found love of nature and animals, LOL, with some REALITY, but you beat me to it.

        Do you consider Vietnamese to be East Asian? Thais? Burmese? I’d include them. Hell, I’d even include the flips. I’m generous.

        • huax

          Not in the least – I don’t even consider some South Chinese, coastal Koreans, Western Mongols or heavily Ainu/Austronesian mixed Japanese to be East Asians.

          But since I’m not a white nationalist retard that doesn’t mean I hate or even dislike these individuals. I personally like Viets, Thais, Flips and Burmese a lot but the genetic data and their looks do not check out 50-90% of the time.

          There is some East Asian blood in Vietnam, Burma and Thailand but it’s relatively rare. I will still like them though.

        • Dota

          Huax: “But since I’m not a white nationalist retard that doesn’t mean I hate or even dislike these individuals. I personally like Viets, Thais, Flips and Burmese ”

          Same here. In a strange way I’m more proud of my supranational Asian Identity than I am of my Indian heritage. I passionately believe in Lee Kwan Yew’s ‘Asian values’ and that all Asians share these values to varying degrees.

    • huax

      That’s fair and all but what about all the dirty money rushing into American banks every year from criminals? They steal from their people and then essentially invest it in America. Many of these are dictators the US props up.

      Cancels out all American aid and then some.

      • Naruto Uzumaki

        biologically and culturally indians aren’t asian, there is no asian values, but is understandable wanting to be an asian or wanting to be part of (East ) Asia, i consider myself asian too in traditions and way of life even if i am white, Asia is just too awesome that admiration and pride for its culture is natural even if you aren’t an asian (biologically or originally culturally) ; many other people feel it like her

  12. Robert Lindsay: “I don’t hate Blacks. I hate Africans, but I’ll make an exception for you.”

    Were you referring to me?

    You don’t hate blacks (as in American blacks right?), probably because you live in same area as some and you can adequately observe their behaviour. You’ve had “experience” with them in other words. However you can’t say this for “Africans”. So how do you know you wouldn’t feel the same way towards them if you were under the same circumstances as I mentioned above?

    Robert Lindsay: “I’m confident that most Whites feel this way about Blacks, even most liberal Whites. I’ve talked to a lot of them about this. Most Whites, even liberal Whites, seem to think that Blacks in general have poor morals or low morals, however you want to put it. Very widespread attitude. And many of the Whites who feel this way don’t hate Blacks. It’s just a basic observation, no reason to hate them.”

    Okay, but on your observation and even for yourself….If you (or the whites you’re speaking about) were to see a black person, moderately well-dressed, not doing anything “uncivilized”, just interacting with another group of black people but not enough for you to make an immediate judgment on…would you (or they) just assume this person had poor/low morals?

    • No, a lot of Blacks don’t have obvious and observable low morals. My Black neighbor, for instance, is as decent a human as you could ever meet.

      But if you look at the group as a whole, yeah, they have lower morals than Whites. If you were to pool the groups, pool Blacks and pool Whites, it’s so obvious that you would find lower empathy, more self-orientation and lower morals in general in the Black group than in the White group.

      This is so clear to me. What’s weird is I think a lot of Blacks would actually take pride in that. After all, they think we are a bunch of prigs.

      • But you see, this means nothing to me and it should mean nothing to you. I do not and you do not (I assume) experience this. I does not keep me up at night…I don’t think blacks have low morals I do not know anyone like this, and I know ALOT of black people.

        Nite, nite guys…it’s late…..I may have been here only a little while , but I now know. From now on, I’m just gonna ignore these kind of threads.

  13. I agree that it seems that only Whites have any ideas about human treatment of animals. I prefer that phrase to “animal rights” because the latter evokes crazy notions about an animal’s life being of equal worth to a human’s. It’s similar to the notion of being responsible and not littering (also mostly a White concept, tho it includes Eastasians as well) as opposed to nature worship.

  14. huax

    See you all in the morning folks

  15. tulio

    I’m calling it a night. This blog is giving me a headache.

  16. D

    “Africans wrote the book on savagery!”

    …what?

    The White race was historically, as a whole, the most brutal race in the world. All races have shown brutality, but the brutality of the White race has longer lasting effects and simply happens on a larger scale. It’s simple – it was a rougher time and if you weren’t a barbarian yourself, you’d get wiped off the planet. Just look at Qart-Hadast or the Al Andalus lol. From the time of the Egyptians and Sumerians, to the barbarians that invaded Rome and the Romans THEMSELVES, all the way down to the Medieval era, and even as far as Napoleon and WWII, the White race grew in power by crushing everything in its sight (not that that’s a bad thing). All races have a history of barbarism, just as all races have their strong and famous individuals. It’s just that the White race was once the MOST barbaric. Simultaneously, as a group, it also had MORE accomplished individuals than any other race.

    White people being “nice” and moral, along with animal “rights” (lol), seems like a recent phenomenon and it’s probably only possible because of improved medical and traveling technology, and democracy. It might have also been started because of WWII.

    Uh … given all the SHIT that White people are getting today, I suspect this more compassionate type of White morality might get overturned.

    :[

    Oh, and as for animals, I just see it like this – if you have a shitty mutt like a rottweiler or something, I could not care less what happens to it. The same goes for chickens, cows, roaches, sickly deer or lions, etc. Now a cool-ass bald eagle or a big, healthy lion or a German Shepard or a bear – those are my kind of animals!

    On the other hand, 1 year in jail seems ok. I would have, at worst, left him in there for 6 months, but whatever. I mean these animals are below human beings imo (i.e. “subhuman”). Even really cool animals like lions and bears, which are BETTER than dogs or cats imo, are still below humans. Maybe it’s the Spaniard in me lol.

  17. Alpha Unit

    If you haven’t been called a savage, don’t worry. You will be by the time this thread has run its course.

  18. Bernardo Carpio

    This is addressed to both whites and blacks as well as citizens belonging to other races in the USA. Americans killed millions of homo sapiens in Vietnam, hundreds of thousands in the Middle East, tens of thousands in Latin America. Why has there been no widespread clamor to put your leaders behind bars for life for crimes against humanity?

  19. Do Blacks have any idea how furious White America got when they all rallied around that murderer of theirs? I don’t think they have any idea. It was a serious low in race relations in the US. The more Blacks do this shit, the more Whites react by basically voting Republican and working to hurt Blacks where it counts, politically.

    Black people so fucked up on that OJ thing.

    • Alpha Unit

      Blacks get furious at White America over certain events, too. It’s endless resentment and back-and-forth. All of you people who are fixated on race need to figure out a different way of looking at the world.

  20. tulio

    Later polls show that most blacks thought he was guilty.

    I think when whites go into that “lynch the nigger!” mode, blacks will circle the wagons. Probably had more to do with mistrust of the police and justice system than hatred of whites. For many blacks past and present there’s a deep belief that it’s just impossible for blacks to get treated fairly by the justice system. And there certainly are reasons to support that belief. Not justifying the support for OJ, but I’m saying. Look at Troy Davis for example. It’s still happening.

    • Gay State Girl

      Black witnesses testified against Troy Davis and he was convicted by a majority black jury. Whether he was guilty or not remains up for debate, but please don’t turn this into a race issue. It perpetuates a viscious cycle.

      • tulio

        The witnesses signed affidavits saying they were strong-armed by the police into giving those testimonies. Some of the jurors said that if they had known this, they would not have voted the way they did. Given this information, I don’t see how his death sentence wasn’t revoked. That alone should’ve been grounds for a new trial.

        Sorry but we’re talking about small town Georgia here and the police tampering with justice and a crime where the victim and perpetrator were of different races. There’s no getting around race here.

    • This is a typical complaint of Blacks in any civilized non-Black society. “The police be all racist and shit!” Ok, look. Here is what happens:

      Blacks show up in the civilized, non-White society.

      After a while, they begin engaging in mass uncivilized behavior, the most important of which is that they commit an utterly insane amount of crime.

      Logically, police begin profiling them and whatnot.

      Logically, police begin arresting an incredible number of Black criminals. Why? Because the Blacks are commiting a surreal amount of crime.

      Because cops are arresting a huge portion of the Black population, inevitable excesses result.

      Pretty soon, Blacks begin screaming about “police brutality!”

      Police institute all sorts of sensitivity measures, but Blacks never stop screaming.

      Because an absolutely insane amount of Blacks are being arrested and incarcerated, Blacks complain that “the system ain’t fair – it’s racist.”

      Nowadays, it is probably not even all that true, with some exceptions for very racist areas like the South. In fact, there are studies that show that Blacks are LESS likely to be arrested for crimes and LESS likely to be convicted for the crimes they commit.

      Blacks scream and yell that the system isn’t fair, is racist, bla bla. Even when Black juries convict Blacks, Black cops shoot Black criminals, somehow it all be racist and shit.

      Black juries begin freeing obviously guilty Black criminals, Blacks periodically engage in mass urban riots due to “police brutality”.

      This bullshit goes on forever with no end in sight, ever.

      The whole stupid cycle is caused by one thing: Blacks committing a ridiculous amount of crime in the first place! This is what causes the whole mess.

      This is frankly what awaits most civilized countries that import large numbers of Blacks. It happened in the US. It’s happening in Canada, the UK, Ireland, France, Norway, Australia.

      I have actually told my friends in other countries like India and the Philippines: “Whatever you do, don’t import large numbers of Blacks! This is what awaits you.” Any country that imports large numbers of Blacks should review the applications very carefully with a fine toothcomb. They might even want to devise measures to try to figure out which ones are most likely to behave, and implement those measures.

    • Problem is that Troy was convicted by a Black jury and Blacks testified against him.

      This is the South we are talking about here. Justice has always been racist down there. If you want to argue that justice is racist outside of the South, things get a lot tougher.

      As I said in my previous post, Blacks have created this whole disaster by committing a mindboggling amount of crime in the first place.

      • Amy

        Hm, I remember when the OJ verdict was announced–people were listening on their radios at work (this was in the Wash. DC area). Groups of white women either stunned silent or crying, groups of black women cheering and hooting.

      • Hacienda

        “mindboggling amount of crime in the first place.”

        Don’t want to get into “white man says, black man says” or white idealism vs black actuality, but how far does black “crime” go back in the US? I would say a black slave by being a black slave cannot commit any crime at all, including the killing of his white master. But since emancipation, there must have been a massive amount of crime.

      • I don’t know how far back Black crime goes in the US.

  21. Gay State Girl

    Dota
    I don’t know what you and Lindsay are going on about Hindutvas. Hindus are among the nicest, most respectful people I’ve ever met and I’m not saying that because they are allies of Israel.

    • louie jacuzzi

      Sure you’re not, lol…wink wink

    • Dota

      @ GSG

      Ok, I’ll try and explain it to you. Hindutva is India’s own unique brand of fascism. Hindutwadis believe that Hindus and Hindus alone are true Indians while Indians who practice Islam and Christianity are outsiders. Not all Hindus are Hindutwadis and many Hindus are too busy starving to care. As BAG has been saying all along: selective immigration. Set those words in stone. Indians in the US are generally well behaved because they come from the upper crust of Indian society. A vast majority of Indians in India are not civilized by western standards and Hindus in particular harbour a vicious hatred against Muslims at the subconscious level. Google the Gujarat pogrom of 2002. Hindu mobs have been involved in some of the most savage atrocities inflicted on their Muslim countrymen. Compare that to the LA race riots and the latter seems like 2 school boys pushing each other around. This is because westerners (whites AND blacks) are more civilized than Indians. Also bear in mind that US Indians are the staunchest Hindutwadis. Remember the california textbook controversy? Seems like Hindus are taking a few lessons from Jewry. While most middle class Hindus and American Hindus are unlikely to pick up a trishul and go about impaling Muslims personally, they are quite happy to look the other way when their lesser brethren carry out the deeds. In India, the Hindu mob is a weapon of mass destruction. Hindu mobs are better cordinated than you think. They are typically let loose in a Muslim neighbourhood and their job is to inflict as much suffering and terror as possible. Trust me on this. My father in law (to be) had his pharmacy burned down, and had he gone to work that day, he surely would have been killed. A Muslim run hospital operated by friends of my family was also burned down. This hospital offered affordable and sometimes free health care to the local slum dwellers. I won’t name the town because it is a small one in Maharashtra and the people I mentioned can easily be traced out. Yet despite this, only one think tank in the US (based in Virginia) labeled the hindu RSS as a terrorist organization. Most Americans have never even heard of the Tamil tigers either. Just those 2 organizations alone dwarf Muslim terrorism on a global scale, atleast in terms of membership. The tigers alone had 10k members, 3 times the size of Al Qaida at the height of its power. Yet you never hear this on the US media because of who runs said media.

      Bear in mind also GSG that the Jew media is VERY friendly to Indian Hindus. Every stereotype attached to Indians is a positive one (nerd, computer geek, doctors). Just look at the way other minorities are portrayed (blacks, hispanics, Persians, Arabs ect…).

      Hope this clarifies things for you, and I apologise for the typos and grammatical errors. I’m on lunch and I don’t get a whole lot of time.

      • allimcbiel

        ” Hindutwadis believe that Hindus and Hindus alone are true Indians while Indians who practice Islam and Christianity are outsiders. ”

        Muslims loyalty is to the Mulim Ummmah and the Christians Loaytly is to the cult leader in Vatican or other chrsitian evangelicals for the most part

        You can read these Bendict Arnolds posts here often

        So yes, many of these Mohammadans and Christians are not Indians and the Hindus of India should reject them with extreme prejduice,

  22. Cecilia Bojorquez likes dogs but she kills them. She’s not cruel, but very clueless. What is worse?

    http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-dog-dragging-death,0,7839282.story

  23. Hacienda

    “We’ve lost our sense of fun.”

    That’s what happens in a fully nuclearized state. That’s what SHOULD happen in a fully nuclearized state. No one should be having any fun. And the kids need to understand why they are not having any fun.

    I’m not against fun, but that’s just the way it is.

    • People still have “fun” bit it’s all in some bullshit preordained commercial, bland context. I have fun at the chain pizza parlor with chintzy games and flunkies dressed in character outfits and shitty pizza, or I have fun at an overpriced fantasyland amusement park where I’m corralled like mindless cattle from one underwhelming ride to another.

      • Hacienda

        “People still have “fun”.”

        It’s bullshit. You have to a big spontaneous element in order to have real fun, deep fun, the kind that makes you feel like life has given you something in return for all the shit it puts you through. It’s the kind of thing disappearing from California. But Las Vegas, LOL. People PAY for that shit.

        • Las Vegas is a big toilet pit of HELL on Earth. That’s where people go to dump their souls. In fact, it’s a big soul disposal site in the desert is all it is. There is nothing I can do in Vegas I can’t do elsewhere. Or that I’d care to.

        • Hacienda

          “There is nothing I can do in Vegas I can’t do elsewhere. Or that I’d care to.”

          I don’t mind. I actually get hit on when I go there. I never take up the offer, but it’s nice to hit on at my age. It’s how distorted things are there. It’s like another world.

  24. Justin

    Yes, blame it on the Blacks. They’re the scapegoat to all our problems.
    They have the highest crime rate anyway, so why not blame animal cruelty on the Blacks too? It’s not like anyone would actually look up the facts because they would automatically believe. Why? LOL.. Because their Black..

    http://209.190.249.61/assets/library/397_s725.pdf

  25. stefani

    I am tired of this argument. I think many things about it: First of all it really is interesting to me that it is still somewhat socially acceptable in America to discuss crimes in terms of which RACES commit more of them, while ignoring the OBVIOUS OVERWHELMING statistical fact: Forget race. That is not the most reliable demographic indicator of criminal behavior. GENDER IS. It is overwhelmingly men who commit violent crimes, sadistic crimes, including cruelty to animals. Yes, there are women too, but OVERWHELMINGLY compared to their statistical representation in the population, it is MEN who commit disproportionately all crimes. So why do we even discuss race? How come people feel justified in HATING people of another race based on exaggerated interpretations of statistics while not instead just HATING ALL MEN?? It would be so much more accurate. Second, if you want to look at the next thing that is associated with animal cruelty, I’d put money on ECONOMIC and EDUCATIONAL status being a far greater correlation than race. I’d be willing to bet that nearly all of the racial association of such crimes would be eradicated if you controlled for socioeconomic factors. I don’t believe economically upper/middle class educated blacks are any more likely to abuse animals than their white counterparts. Frankly, possibly less so if you count all of the torture that is part and parcel of horse racing, a favorite activity of snobby white people with money to burn. And the kindest people in the world to animals are Jains, who are Indian. They literally go out of their way not to step on ants, look them up. And they are technical Asian and brown skinned. So it is culture, not skin color. And yes, there are cultures in which animal cruelty is more accepted than others, including cultures of poor urban people in the US who are disproportionately black and Hispanic (dog fighting) but when you control for socioeconomic status, I’d be willing to bet that the “racial” association evaporates.

  26. Slave trade black people are not African Americans.we are the Biblical Jews..in 70a.d.we fled out of Israel into west Africa.1600 years later.we were brought to the Americas.there’s nothing African about us.we’re from the lineage of father shem.not his brother Ham..we like dogs and not all of us are from the ghettos.all slave trade black people are cousins.our forefather is Jacob.

  27. An offended African

    Wow I’m so offended, just because black people are not animal lovers does not mean we would want to hurt animals. I’m south african and yes the reason why there’s a disconnect between black people and dogs is because of the history police dogs were trained to attack blacks during apartheid and for you to think its a ridiculous defense then you are very ignorant. There are really good animal rights in sa and I’ve never heard of dog fights in my country and dogs are usually kept as pets for security reasons by the low and middle class citizens of sa. Now where have I heard that in my country people were just killing wild animals for the sake of it, bush animals are slaughtered for food purposes only. We’re not barbaric ok!

    • Actually, many SA blacks own dogs. And on the cape flats, it was largely Muslim coloured boys who’d do ‘cock-fights’ with dogs. Maybe if you were urban and grew up in certain neighbourhoods, certain breeds might have scared you, but when I’d cycle through the cape flats (incl. Gugs., Nyanga, Khaye., Mitchells’, etc.) during the mid-to-late 1990s I’d see and hear quite a few dogs.

  28. brad

    I have wondered this too.

    Seems the countries that are predominantly hispanic, arab or black treat their women this way as well. Just like animals they have no rights!

    Being cruel to animals makes no sense to me I wouldn’t want to be treated that way….so don’t do it to another.

    Most I’ve seen are hispanics tying horses up to trees for days with little or no water, food etc. Poor hispanics love having horses in their backyards in Texas. Usually if they have horses and hardly any land they mostly likely are on foodstamps and medicaid. We feed them and they can’t even feed their horses. Don’t believe me come visit are small towns in this state.

    Dogs tied up to trees….forever. Why have a dog if you are going to tie him up for life!? Cats tortured, and probably the most hated pet among ghetto people. Unless you get that strange cat lady in the neighborhood.

  29. Ever noticed almost every animal in africa is a killer even the killer bee attacks the color black ever wonder y cause niggers were even evil to insects all creatures had to fight back against the evil black bastards

  30. Truthteller

    I wonder if there’s going to be an article about how whites rallied around George Zimmerman, seeing that he treated Trayvon Martin like an animal, ignored the police, and then shot him after starting a fight and getting his ass kicked. Probably not. And Outlaw, you’re a fucking limp dick coward. Typically Internet commando

    • George Zimmerman is my hero! My man George did the right thing in treating Trayvon like an animal because that is what he was. I have already written articles about my hero.

  31. R R

    I was interested in what you had to say until reading the phrase “typical liberal absurdity” completely turned me off. I’m a libertarian, but that’s beside the point.. do you really want to alienate at least half of your potential readers with such divisive rhetoric? Shame on you.

  32. Lt. Col. Podovsky

    Although the original post was made many years ago, its relevance to today is still valid. It would be wrong to speak in absolutes, as in, all blacks are this, or all blacks are that, because they are not, but the MAJORITY of blacks DO behave a certain way, think along certain lines, and exhibit specific characteristics and attributes, which are sadly, mostly negative, cruel, and destructive. It really saddens me to see so much hostility, racism, crime, ruin, and calamity from blacks. The negro race is truly the bane of civilization. Are ALL blacks guilty? God forbid, Nay! But the majority of blacks are. The blacks that DON’T commit crime or act riotous and disrespectful, more often then not, will shield, defend, downplay, or make excuses for those that do. The scariest thing is watching how some blacks will go above and beyond to twist and pervert logic, reason, and truth in order to justify themselves, or their kin’s barbarism, failures, or transgressions. My heart’s desire is to see blacks, as well as other races, prosper and be blessed, but NOT at the expense of myself, and NOT at the expense of my race. Black cruelty to animals and their disregard for animal welfare, pain, and suffering is nothing more than a window into their true soul and character. If a black youth like Walter Easley of South Carolina, takes pleasure in kicking a small fluffy kitten, then he is not far away from doing likewise or worse unto his neighbor and fellow man. We can’t control who we are born as, but what we can control is our attitude, behavior, and character. Just because you are born a nigger, doesn’t mean you have to be a nigger. And just because the majority of your people are a certain way, doesn’t mean that you should be like them, side with them, partake with them, defend them, or make excuses for them. But rather side with truth and the Lord Jesus Christ. Black is beautiful? Black Power? Black Pride?

    1 John 1:5 – This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

    Proverbs 16:18 – Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

    Jeremiah 13:23 – Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

  33. Renee

    Blacks are cruel to animals, they should not be allowed to own any.

  34. allimcbiel

    Let white people become vegetarians…then I’ll pay attention to the BS they shit from their mouth about “cruelty” to animals.

    STFU white people.

  35. jmarly

    you are an ignorant dumb ass if a white man did the same thing Mike Vick did it wouldn’t be a new black people are given eyes in this country if you were black you would understand but why people are very ignorant

  36. Writer failed to see the obvious correlation between socioeconomic status and how sympathetic cultures are to nature and its creatures.

    Not very well written at all.

  37. Dee

    Amen! Thank you for saying what needs to be said. I have YET to meet an upstanding black citizen…in ANY nation. I wish slavery never happened here- then the blacks would have never been brought here, and they wouldn’t be the virus they are today.

  38. Sara

    I am a Black woman and I love animals. I have two cats, and also like guinea pigs, dogs, rats, birds etc animals are better than humans because they are not intentionally cruel. Animals kill in order to eat or in self defense, they aren’t raping, molesting or torturing people. If justice existed in the world–Vick would be savaged by one of the dogs he mutilated.

    I can not defend people who abuse animals, and I never will. I am vegetarian due to animal advocacy purposes, it’s a personal thing for me. I have never been associated and never will associate with people who are cruel to animals. We sometimes share a similar skin color, but that is all.

  39. Jules The Mule

    “Black treatment of animals in Africa is appalling. If you watch Africa Addio, it becomes apparent that the Blacks would have slaughtered every living animal in Africa on independence if the Whites had not stopped them and the slaughter is ongoing with the scandalous Bush meat controversy. People kept saying it was a temporary thing with independence, but it’s never stopped and it looks like it never will. The only thing that seems to be keeping a lot of large African wildlife alive is White people and their money.”

    Frankly, I am convinced there is much more which is kept alive in Africa by white people and their money, not just wildlife.

  40. Jason Y

    I don’t know about blacks, but all around scientific cruelty to animals is unbelievable. Also, I doubt if these experiments are needed nowadays, with all the tech know-how currently available.

  41. wo unto such, for they are in the gall of bitterness and in the bonds of iniquity.

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