Racism Against Blacks in Cuba

There is an article posted on American Renaissance by a Black Cuban complaining about anti-Black racism in Cuba. The article is correct, but the Cuban exiles (gusanos) make too much of this. Things were much worse when the gusanos ran things.

Many comments followed. As a socialist and liberal race realist, I must say there was a lot of nonsense written in these comments. Amren comments are italicized, and my comments follow.

I guess racial relations as well as government took a big backward step with Fidel.

Not so unless you are a segregationist. Cuba had legal Jim Crow segregation and hardcore discrimination against Blacks pre-Castro. That’s all been swept aside now, maybe forever. The Blacks complain, but it’s better now than it  was then. There is more democracy than under Batista, and Castro has mass popular support while Batista never did. Pre-revolution, there was nearly a one-drop rule, and there was little intermarriage, or those that did were lost to the Whites as in the South. Since the Revolution, there has been mass intermarriage.

I can imagine that Cuba became a much darker and more violent country after these folks left.

Darker, sure.

More violent? No way. Certainly far less violent. For whatever reason, Cuba has less violent crime than any other state in the Americas, and Havana is the safest large city in the Americas. And they are both full of Blacks. I’ve long said that Blacks do well under socialism. In Mozambique under Samora Machel, you could walk across Maputo in the middle of the night and not fear a thing.

You are welcome to speculate why there is little crime. The Cuban justice system is hardcore, and they don’t put up with any BS at all. Cuba has the 6th highest imprisonment rate in the world, and the prisons are of course full of Blacks. The typical rejoinder is that those are all political prisoners. I have no recent figures, but there are probably no more than 400 political prisoners on the island. The overwhelming majority of the prison population are common criminals. Perhaps the crime rate is due because of a “lock em up” philosophy?

Yes, the Black intellectual class (is that an oxymoron?) have long claimed Cuba was a race less Utopia.

Well, there is probably less racism against Blacks there than anywhere else in the Americas, FWIW.

What’s their IQ?

If it’s above 80…

Good question. No one seems to know, but in the rest of the Caribbean, it is ~70-75.

Now that we have another proof that extreme Leftist policies do nothing to improve life for Blacks can we please stop affirmative action, integration, Third World immigration, and diversity quotas?

Surely not the case in Cuba, as the revolution has dramatically improved life there. Sure Blacks bitch, but Blacks complain everywhere.

These are the people that Castro drove out; now he has a population similar to Haiti. His human capital is a negative!

Not so. Cuba’s population looks nothing like Haiti’s.

In the Americas, Cubans have the longest life expectancy in the Americas, the lowest rate of malnutrition, the lowest infant mortality rate, the most scientists per capita, are the best educated and are the healthiest people. With 2% of the population, they have 10% of the scientists.

They have hooked up the whole place to running water, electricity and sewage. Everyone has access to transportation and culture and wears nice clothes. Latin America has failed to do these things for some reason.

Compared to the planet, Cuba has the lowest doctor patient and more agronomists per capita than anywhere else.

It hardly sounds like a place with garbage human capital.

And do you think these White Cuban exiles would return to Cuba given a chance to do so? No way.

One thing that infuriates these Cuban Whites is that they had a lot of money in Cuba, but they took off really fast and left things behind, like their homes. Castro quickly confiscated their homes and businesses when they left.

The gusanos go back to Cuba and see their fine stately homes filled with Cuban Blacks crammed into their old home, lounging on the porch, etc. The Cuban Whites are filled with rage, but do you think there is any way in Hell those Cuban Blacks are going to give those nice homes they are living in back to the Cuban White gusanos who left? Not on your life.

This is partly how Castro stays in power. No one in Cuba wants those gusanos back.

Cuba could implode one day and we could have a Mariel boatlift X10, or X20.

Won’t happen. Those Blacks have it good, and implosion would bring back the White gusanos with vengeance on their minds. Every Cuban knows this. See bolded part above.

Slums are the products of the people who live in them. Inferior people create inferior environments, despite governmental efforts to help them. Superior people create superior environments, despite persecution.

It is true that the Cuban government has recently built some very nice apartment complexes for poor Blacks in Havana. Within 6 months, the Blacks had dismantled and destroyed them. There is a big debate in the Cuban sociology community right now about why the Blacks did this.

Fortunately there is an alternative. Just 80km across the Windward Passage sits the black paradise known as Haiti. Cuba could easily deport all of its blacks there, where they would be among their own kind and by definition no longer oppressed.

Actually, Eastern Cuba is now full up with Haitians and Jamaicans fleeing the capitalist paradises of Haiti and Jamaica. Cuba just lets them and tries to integrate them into society. Say what you will about Cuba, but Cuba looks great to your average poor Haitian or Jamaican. These Blacks think Cuba is paradise compared to the places they come from. The notion that no one ever flees to a Communist country is false.

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19 responses to “Racism Against Blacks in Cuba

  1. AJ

    Belarus is more socialist than Russia now, but why do Russians live better?

  2. Dirty Bull

    Bob, why the fixation with Amren and the racist dickwads who inhabit therein?

    Is it some sort of guilty pleasure?

    • I’m a regular reader. It’s sort of a terrible site in that it is very racist, but there is enough race realism on there that it’s really interesting! This is a race realist site and we deal honestly with the subject of race. They write about stuff on there that is terrible from the POV of the Left, but sadly, it’s true! There’s stuff on there that you just can’t find in the regular media too much.

      We on the Left need to come up with some arguments about race that are not totally idiotic like we usually do. Sadly, a lot of what those racists say on Amren is true! How do we respond to that? How do we deal with that aside from just sitting back and calling names?

      Also, I know the publisher, Jared Taylor. He gifted me a subscription. I respect him in a way for some reason. Very smart guy.

      Yeah, it’s a guilty pleasure.

      Another objective of this site is to take on racist BS. That’s also what I’m doing here.

      • johnUK

        I heard him talk to James Edwards on The Political Cesspool a couple of years ago about Katrina and how studies linking ethnicity and race in areas can preedict crime better and more accurate than other factors like poverty and other social factors it was pretty good.

        Does Jared Taylor want the US to become like Japan or is he just using that as an example of how a homogeneous state functions compared to multi-ethnic states like the US?

        • Does Jared Taylor want the US to become like Japan or is he just using that as an example of how a homogeneous state functions compared to multi-ethnic states like the US?

          The latter, not the former. He’s really worried that US Whites are a lost cause. He doesn’t think they really care about their survival for some reason.

        • FrankBD

          Taylor offers Japan as a counter-example to the things diversitarians say that aren’t backed up by evidence. Japan is a well-functioning country with exceptionally strong export business, so if diversity is America’s strength, why isn’t it Japan’s weakness?

  3. AJ

    “Who says they live better ?” Wikipedia. the GDP per capita is higher in Russia.

    • Patrick

      So your assessment of their entire quality of life is based on just one criteria? Your not looking at any other aspects of life in those places?

    • Wade in MO

      ““Who says they live better ?” Wikipedia.the GDP per capita is higher in Russia”

      If we assume for a second that more money is all that necessary for a high quality of life I still believe that this doesn’t necessarily mean people live better. Suppose for a second that ten people all have 10 dollars a piece by law. The average amount of assets is then 10 dollars per capita. Suppose the law is removed and everything is deregulated. Some foreign capital may be brought in, wealth may be generated, or some other change to the economy may occur. If we then took a census asking for the wealth of every person and it showed that one person had 200 dollar and the other nine had nothing then the assets per capita would be 20 dollars per person.

      Alright, the average is doubled! Empty stomachs are growling in delight! Long live capitalism!

  4. Savvas Tzionis

    Robert,

    well done on this article post.

    Its about time that people stop judging Cuba from the year 1959 onwards. I love how you bring Batista into it.

    I would put forward an argument that much of the state violence perpetrated by Castro on its own citizens is justified because the US has NEVER stopped fighting them what with the embargo.

    Cuba is virtually still at war with the USA.

  5. Wade in MO

    “It is true that the Cuban government has recently built some very nice apartment complexes for poor Blacks in Havana. Within 6 months, the Blacks had dismantled and destroyed them. There is a big debate in the Cuban sociology community right now about why the Blacks did this.”

    I hate to be a smart ass here, but why don’t they just ask them? Why are sociologists such pricks that they come up with weirdo theories to answer questions that are actually really easy to answer? It seems the whiteness studies movements and its ilk are heavily involved in this sort of bullshit overtheorising. They probably figure that by making abstractions that they can choose certain assumptions that will lead them to the results that they wanted in the first place. Almost like a gigantic case of confimation bias.

  6. BigBoy

    “Actually, Eastern Cuba is now full up with Haitians and Jamaicans fleeing the capitalist paradises of Haiti and Jamaica. Cuba just lets them and tries to integrate them into society. Say what you will about Cuba, but Cuba looks great to your average poor Haitian or Jamaican. These Blacks think Cuba is paradise compared to the places they come from. The notion that no one ever flees to a Communist country is false.”

    Eastern Cuba isn’t filled up with Jamaican and Haitian immigrants fleeing their capitalist paradises. There’s been successive waves of immigrants from Jamaica, Haiti, and the Anglophone Caribbean which ended or declined in the mid 20th century. Most of those Jamaicans and Haitians are actually Cubans born and bred, albeit Cubans of Jamaican or Haitian descent.

    When present-day Jamaicans or Haitians leave their island they usually end up in the U.S. or Canada.

  7. Javier

    It’s disgusting when people use terms “gusanos” to refer to people whose only fault is to want to get away from a brutal dictatorship as quickly as possible. Shame on you- if you have any.

  8. Jason Y

    That’s shocking to find out Jim Crow existed in Latin America. I figured everyone in Latin America was so mixed, that segregation would have been impossible.

    • Nooooo, and not only there, but also in other countries. Ecuador was notorious.

    • pepperoncini

      Latin America is more racist towards Amerindians and Blacks than the US and Canada.

      People slight North America for racism and there certainly is quite a bit of it but countries ruled by Germanic/Celtic/Nordic cultures actually admit their racism and treat Blacks and dark skinned people better than Latin America,MidEast and Asia. There are exceptions like Bolivia and Venezuela which have made significant progress to right many wrong but this only came about because of Chavez and Morales.

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