Race and Politics in America: What Whites Say in Meatspace

After living in US society for a while, you get kind of an idea about race and politics among US Whites. But it’s only an idea, because contrary to the nuts in the Abagond Sphere, Whites, at least here in California, really don’t talk about race that much. Conservative Whites, liberal Whites, no Whites here have much to say about race. The topic is for all intents and purposes taboo. This suggests right away that two polar opposite views are seriously incorrect:

The Abagond Sphere holds that US White society is a horrifically racist place. US Whites have a severe level of racism towards Blacks and possibly other non-Whites. The result of this apparently is serious damage to the psyches of US Blacks, at the very least.

Further to the Left, the White Left in the US holds that all of the various discrepancies of US Blacks, overrepresentation of negatives, underrepresentation of positives, can only be due to White racism. White racism must be a pretty vicious tornado of an entity to cause such serious damage to Black society. This view is so strange that it almost seems a caricature, but White Left colleagues have told me this right to my face, so I know that they think like this.

Since viciously racist Whites talk about race all the time and US Whites don’t do that, we must reject the Abagond Sphere view of US Whites, at least in California.

The other view is that of the White Nationalist or White racist Right. This view holds that US Whites, especially the liberals, are a bunch of Tim Wise PC clones. That’s not really the case. I can almost count on my fingers the number of PC Whites who have lectured me on race. White people, outside of Tim Wise speeches, just don’t talk like this. At least the ones I meet don’t. This is a fantasy.

Since one almost never hears a White person sounding like a PC Tim Wise clone, we must reject this view of US Whites.

So if California Whites are neither PC nuts nor vicious bigots on the subject of race, what is their opinion on race? Around these parts, from the Left to the Right, race is simply not discussed. Whites either associate with other races or they do not. If they don’t, they don’t make many racist comments. If they do, you don’t hear them complaining a lot about their non-White associates.

There are a few overtly racist Whites here and there, mostly in White towns, but they are not common. If you get to know them well, some Whites will let loose some racist talk. One friend told me, “I think Blacks are savages.” I asked how much experience he had had with Blacks. Some, he had lived with a Black man back in the hippie days. “But he was kind of a savage too,” he allowed.

Whites, Left to Right, don’t discuss illegal immigration much either. Maybe if you pry, you might get a word or two, but once again, we are into the Taboo Zone. I told Abagond himself this once, but he almost did not believe it. It clashed with his view of White society as a viciously racist place, so he rejected my view out of hand.

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11 responses to “Race and Politics in America: What Whites Say in Meatspace

  1. Bay Area Guy

    The other view is that of the White Nationalist or White racist Right. This view holds that US Whites, especially the liberals, are a bunch of Tim Wise PC clones

    I don’t think that ether YOU or my dad are Tim Wise clones.

    In fact, both of you don’t have too high of an opinion of him.

    However, it should be said that white liberals are Tim Wise’s enablers. They’re the ones who pay money to go see his lectures, buy his books, and otherwise make him relevant.

    Since far left wacko nutjob whites are so small in number, only white liberals (as well as non-whites who love to see whites kissing colored ass) provide Tim Wise with his existence.

    Still, in a nutshell, I agree with you.

    I’m a bit of an anomaly among whites, not only because of my white nationalist views, but also because I spend much time thinking about and discussing race.

    Most whites really couldn’t care less about most racial issues, and only talk about it when it’s brought up.

    There are exceptions, as some of my closer white friends do discuss race with me in private without me necessarily bringing it up, but for the most part, the white attitude towards race is that it’s better to be safe than sorry.

    Since so many of them are PC (at least in public. In private, I cannot speak for most whites) and scared to death of being called racist, they just avoid racial topics and any potential trouble that comes with those topics.

    • I cannot think of one, one, one, one White person I know who would go to a Tim Wise lecture. I can’t imagine who these liberal Whites are who would possibly attend such an event. Where are they, anyway?

    • Bay Area Guy

      Well, obviously someone is going to his lectures.

      Otherwise, Timmy wouldn’t be collecting lucrative speaking fees.

      • LaFleur

        Exactly. If/when the academic bubble pops, and the diversity training circuit dries up, Timmy’s career is ovah.

      • Bay Area Guy

        I suspect that many of them are a captive audience.

        Good point.

        When Tim says that he “trains” various white people in anti-racism techniques, he’s probably euphemistically saying that he’s the “diversity consultant” asshole that companies hire to deliver lectures to employees.

    • LaFleur

      I cannot think of one, one, one, one White person I know who would go to a Tim Wise lecture.

      Me neither. I’ve also never met a sniveling white butt-kisser like Mira, an Abagond and Ank Mie groupie, who showers her hosts with praise and reassures them that yes, all other white people besides her really are as rotten as they say. She’s always saying “white people think this” and “white people think that” so Ank Mie will pat her on the head.

      Pitiful.

      • Bay Area Guy

        I’ve also never met a sniveling white butt-kisser like Mira, an Abagond and Ank Mie groupie, who showers her hosts with praise and reassures them that yes, all other white people besides her really are as rotten as they say. She’s always saying “white people think this” and “white people think that” so Ank Mie will pat her on the head.

        I have nothing but contempt for Mira.

        All she does is basically regurgitate what Ank Mie says in order to win brownie points with the blacks over at Abagond.

        You’re right. Her attitude is, “yeah, all whites really are just as bad as you think. I can confirm it!”

        She also uses her status as a Serb to claim that white Europeans despise white Americans and like black people more. And once again, surprise surprise, she gets patted on the head by Ank Mie.

        Well I can think of many white Europeans who would disagree with her, including fellow slavs such as Tomislav Sunic and Alex Kurtagic.

        She is pitiful. She is a butt-kissing Abagond and Ank Mie groupie.

        • Serbs like Blacks? LOL, news to me. Most of those East European states are quite hostile to Blacks. I would not advise Blacks to travel there. They have not had much experience with Black people, hence they are often seriously freaked out by displays of “TNB” etc.

          Whereas we US Whites have grown up with Blacks since childhood. Sure, some of us don’t like them, but we know them very well. Little Black behavior, even at the worst, surprises us much. Some Black guy runs around and has 24 kids by 13 different women and then refuses to support any of them and US liberal Whites just shake their heads, laugh and say it figures or something along those lines.

          Some of the braver ones might say, “Send him back to Africa,” half-jokingly. That’s always good for some nervous chuckles. But no White person, I mean none, is freaked out by this stuff. It’s almost normal, par for the course. We’re used to it. We are used to Blacks, even at their worst.

        • Bay Area Guy

          Yeah, I don’t think that Mira is your typical Serb.

          I don’t think that too many Serbs spend their time kissing black ass while commenting on black American anti-racist/Critical Race Theorist blogs.

          And yeah, if blacks are going to get their asses kicked in Russia, I hardly imagine that they’re going to get treated that much better in Serbia.

          (not to say that Russia is the same as Serbia, but there are similarities. They have been traditional allies)

          And yeah, I witnessed a good amount of TNB in middle school and to a smaller extent high school.

          You get used to it after some time. I highly doubt that Serbs or other Europeans would be too thrilled upon first encountering TNB.

  2. nobody

    I almost went to a Tim Wise lecture. Why not? Just because I probably wouldn’t have agreed with him? It would have been free.

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