Repost from the old site.
From a very interesting discussion over at American Renaissance in an article about how the Pill disrupts women’s sense of smell. The article itself is interesting. Females have an evolutionarily developed sense of smell that makes them prefer males who differ in a set of genes called the major histocompatibility complex (MHC), which governs the immune system.
When they choose men with a different set of MHC genes, the offspring gets a complementary set of MHC genes, or the best of both parties, and has an increased resistance to disease. However, women on the Pill lose this preference. Researchers worried that women on the Pill might lose interest in their boyfriends or husbands while on the Pill.
But the comments were even more interesting. I have been wanting to write for a long time about the notion that some Whites say that Black people stink, or smell bad. There did not seem to be a way of writing about this without sounding like a racist asshole, so I put it off.
A relative told me that many Whites say that Blacks smell bad. He even said that they are called “Stink Bugs” by some Hispanics here in California. I said that I had been around Blacks most of my life, including having Black girlfriends, Black best friends who I hung out with every day, and teaching whole classes full of Blacks every day for months on end, and I never noticed it.
It’s not really known what Blacks smell like to those who say they are stinkers. Some say they smell like sweat or onions, but a lot say that they just flat out stink, period.
There is also evidence that Northeast Asians find the odor of Blacks particularly offensive, perhaps more so than Whites do. Asians also say that we Whites stink too, but not as much as Blacks do. They often say that we smell like red meat. Some of this may have to do with diet. But one White Vietnam vet said that Vietnamese could hardly smell Blacks at all, but could smell a White a block away.
Even Hispanics are said to be stinky by some Whites.
So far, this post sounds pretty racist. Black folks are getting screwed like they always do. The other races think they’re stinky, and there’s no hope.
Ah.
But there is hope for Black folks. It seems that a lot of Blacks say that we Whites stink too. Equal time! In the comments to the article (which Amren will not keep and I could not get Google too cache), commenters noted that Blacks often refer to Whites as having a “wet dog smell”.
There is supposedly even a type of spray called “Wet Dog” that you can spray on yourself to give yourself a scent that Blacks hate, though this may be an urban myth. What a way to keep the darkies away!
Along the same lines, a female commenter said that a Black woman told her that Black females can’t stand to take showers with White women in gymnasiums or at school since they think White women smell terrible when they get wet.
Even other Whites say we Whites stink. A White woman said that White men often smell like corn on the cob. A White man said if you get a lot of White guys together in a locker room, they smell like rotten peppers.
I’m a little upset that in yet another lineup between the three great races, those darned cunning, inscrutable Oriental despots come out on top, smelling like a rose even. But alas, all is not lost. It seems that some Whites say that foreign-born Asians and FOB’s (recent immigrants) smell bad. It’s something like sesame oil plus old socks with a drop of rice wine. It’s subtle, but one woman described it as almost nauseating.
A White man who served in Vietnam said that he could smell differences between Vietnamese and Chinese (the Chinese stunk worse), so there may be national variations in stinkiness. I’m happy that some folks think Asians think too. All’s fair.
I supposedly have a great sense of smell, but I’ve been missing out on all these stinky races. I can’t detect any racial or ethnic differences in smell, though I used to work with this nice older White woman who smelled horrible for some reason.
But I find it amusing that in this area of dictatorially enforced anti-racism that so many Blacks, Whites and Asians all think the other races stink.
32 Comments
July 3, 2009 at 6:32 pm
One thing that I believe can be proven is that in most parts of Asia it is more difficult to find underarm deodorant than in America or Europe because most Asians don’t have the type of sweat glands that produce unpleasant odors there. Poor Asian countries especially.
July 3, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Interesting…
July 4, 2009 at 3:03 pm
I have been living in San Francisco for two years, and besides this period, all my live I lived in Mexico. It is obvious and natural that no matter what your race is and what community you are raised in, you will always detect people’s unpleasant smells–those who tend to stink by means of genetics or by not taking shower regularly. However, I want to point out that during these two years, I met incredible diversity of different races, both natives and Immigrants, and I found that 9 out of each 10 immigrants being BURMESE, CHINESE, THAILAND, AND VIETNAMESE, are very STINKY. Yes, they have different DIETS, but they share, though, similar STINKINESS. Those who were BORN in U.S., it was about 5 out of 10. It is something I have no words to address–it’s just an inevitable repulsive odour.
Source: Being a ONE-TO-ONE tutor in a community formed by mostly asian immigrants.
July 4, 2009 at 3:08 pm
LOL, thx Alejandro.
July 6, 2009 at 7:24 am
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July 7, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Be a caucasion & Play high school football in s. Florida on a team that’s 98% black. You’ll notice the difference in smell. I’ve heard blacks say whites smell like a freshly-opened package of baloney. I know that white peoples’ dogs particularly don’t like Blacks, and vice versa. There has to be smell thing to that. My guess is that the dog identifies with the black or white “pack” and the other “pack” smell tips them off and sets them in defense-mode.
I lived in France, they don’t go much for deoderant there, my inquiries elicited the concern that the chemicals in anti-perspirant were unhealthy. BTW the French are quite clean, they shower or bathe as often as Americans. They’re not as fat either. I noticed it many times. Americans are fat-asses. The French are rarely captain Ahab magnets.
July 13, 2009 at 5:41 pm
I found the line about black women not wanting to shower with white women to be interesting. First of all, I think all women stink to a certain degree – happily as a female I prefer a male’s scent. However, while I find the scent of my fellow white women to often be a mixture of faint sour milk and flowers, I find the scent of black women to be enough to make me nauseous. I have stayed in black women’s houses and had black friends in mine, and the odor smells like a mixture of faint diarreah and rotten meat. My friends were not dirty or poor as listed in the article as a reason for odor problems. They were just as clean, if not more so than me, but no matter how clean, still carried the nauseating smell. I never realized that they might think that white women smell more. I wonder what scent is being percieved, and also I wonder why people don’t seem to notice when they are parading around with a constant foul smell.
July 13, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Thx for this comment, Megan. Very interesting.
July 13, 2009 at 6:24 pm
“I never realized that they might think that white women smell more. I wonder what scent is being perceived…”
The scent of bullshit.
July 14, 2009 at 8:52 am
- Some American Blacks say that ‘White people’ smell like ‘wet dogs,’ or differing forms of bologna
- Some Asians say that White people smell like raw/red/uncooked beef (probably true considering how much beef we eat compared to them, which likely comes through our skin and sweat glands and they pick up on that excreted scent)
- Germans and other native White-Europeans who have long been in contact with Jews have noted many times that Jews smell much different than native White Europeans; Hitler even noted this in his book MEIN KAMPF – Jews might actually smell different than all other ethnic/racial groups on Earth because they could partially descend from a whole different branch of humanity or even an entirely different human species, the Neanderthals; see: http://www.slate.com/id/2457/
- All of the races agree that Black Africans who are sweaty smell very, very bad – the odors emitted by African sweat glands are, for whatever reason, quite a bit stronger than all other races; I’ve noticed this too, and I’ve been in full-size basketball stadiums during games where you can easily smell Black African sweat from 1/3 of the way up in the seats
July 14, 2009 at 9:05 am
I’ve never noticed any bad Black smell, or even a bad Black sweat smell, but I’m not sure how many sweating Blacks I have been around. But I have had sex with a number of Black women…let me see…I think 4 at last count. Never noticed any bad smell there either…
The notion that Jews are descended from Neanderthals is seriously insane. Never noticed any Jewish smell either.
July 14, 2009 at 9:44 am
RL:”I’ve never noticed any bad Black smell, or even a bad Black sweat smell, but I’m not sure how many sweating Blacks I have been around. But I have had sex with a number of Black women…let me see…I think 4 at last count. Never noticed any bad smell there either…”
Really? You’ve never noticed the very strong Black African odor of their sweat? Maybe it’s just because you haven’t been around enough of them who were profusely sweating – that’s likely. Also, Blacks surely sweat a lot more here in the very hot/humid American South than in the drier and much less humid Mediterranean-climate of coastal Cali.
Also, the darker a Black is (i.e., the more pure/unmixed African they are) the stronger their Black sweat odor is – that’s a trend I definitely noticed while playing basketball and other sports with them as I was growing up here in Dixie.
August 22, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Most whites smell HORRIBLE especially in the summer. I think it’s because of their greasy hair. I’m not racist, it’s a fact that whites stink really bad when they sweat.
August 22, 2009 at 12:12 pm
You’re right, we are a bunch of stinky-poos.
October 19, 2009 at 3:02 am
Ah yes, Hitler, the go-to man on Jews.
July 14, 2009 at 9:38 am
RL:”The notion that Jews are descended from Neanderthals is seriously insane. Never noticed any Jewish smell either.”
I agree that the Jew/Neanderthal thing is pretty far out there, I was mostly joking. And hey, did you know that Jewish males also menstruate? – http://www.jstor.org/pss/517391
There is a definite Jewish smell, at least among the Ashkenazim I’ve met in close-quarters – it is not at all a pleasant smell. It is a sickeningly sweetish odor, yet also somewhat musty/moldy; that bad sweetish smell may possibly be related to their higher propensity for diabetes (blood sugar disease) as if their syrupy diabetic blood can be smelled through their skin or something – it’s weird. Many Jews I’ve known also seemed to have chronic bad-breath (halitosis), maybe because their digestion is bad/sluggish or else they talk so much that their mouths just dry out quicker and without adequate saliva to stave off the bad oral germs their mouths begin to fester and ripen.
September 8, 2009 at 12:39 pm
M.E.A…you are one racist bitch.
I wonder if your black “friends” know that you think they smell like diarrhea and rotten meat?
And White women smell like flowers? Sure, whatever.
September 14, 2009 at 7:27 am
I’ve never really noticed a difference in smell from one race to another besides certain ethnic food smells. I’ve been around many, many different peoples most of my life but did recently notice something that caught my attention. While in New Orleans, I visited a strip club on Bourbon Street and was greeted by two beautiful young black women. These girls were gorgeous imo, and I was definitely attracted to them as I am by most dark skinned women. Anyways, I ended up getting lap dances from both these women, and during the fun, they both at one point or another were close enough for me to smell them more intimately. Both of these women had a light odor of onion about their entire bodies. It wasn’t an unhealthy smell, but was definitely stronger than what I am used to. I am a white man who has never been intimate with a black women, so this was my 1st experience getting up close and personal to a black women. Not to be crude, but of course their most personal regions was near my face at various points during the dance, and even when they were not near my face, I still could smell their female smells. Again, not unhealthy, but stronger than the other women ( over 25 ), that I’ve been with in my 31 years. I left the club ( Not the 1st time I’ve been to a strip club or the 1st lap dance of that night. I had two dances from 2 different women, one Italian and one white earlier in the evening ) wandering if those beautiful black girls had a different cleaning routine than most girls I knew, or if it was just part of their physiological make up. I definitely would not say they were gross at all, but they did smell stronger than other women I’d been around, and it was something different for me.
September 14, 2009 at 7:35 am
Yes, this is very interesting. Black men are notorious for not wanting to eat pussy, and I’ve always wondered why that is. They just don’t want to do it.
I’ve had sex with several Black women in my life. Of those, I went down on four of them. I never noticed anything different at all, but then, I like to eat pussy, and I am almost never bothered by bad pussy smell when I am down there munching away.
For sure, Black women’s pubic hair is different – it looks like the hair on their heads. And their labia usually have a deep purple color as opposed to the pink you find in most White women.
Black women are kind of freaked out if you want to go down on them. One was like, “Huh? You want to do THAT? No problem.” It was like even she thought it was disgusting, but of course, like all women, she loved to get her pussy eaten. She just couldn’t figure out why I would want to do such a gross thing.
September 14, 2009 at 8:43 am
I’d read about a study where they took a group of white guys, and a group of black guys, and then made them work out hard. Then they blindfolded a group of people and made them sniff the black and white men to see if they could tell the difference. The study showed that people could not tell the difference.
While I do tend to notice differences in smells between races, it tends to be because different races use different body care products. Blacks use grease in their hair, so black can have a greasy smell at times. I have also noticed the notorious “wet dog” smell of whites, and it comes from when their hair is dirty and wet. But I think the dried, shampooed hair of a white woman is quite a pleasant smell. I think Asians, particularly SE Asians have a smell that comes from the unique blend of spices they use in their foods.
I’ve never heard any science that says there’s a difference in chemical composition of sweat between human population groups. Maybe there is, I’ve just never heard of such a thing. I think most people’s fowl comments about the smell of other races can be explained by the psychological phenomena of “priming”: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priming_%28psychology%29
September 14, 2009 at 8:56 am
Yeah, I’ve never noticed a thing, and I supposedly have a great sense of smell. Too good, people say, because I refuse to eat the spoiled food that everyone else is happily munching away on. They get mad when I refuse to eat and say it’s spoiled, while they keep on eating it because they can’t smell.
I have noticed that some people just smell really bad. It’s a rare person. I remember once an older woman at a place I worked at had a horrible and weird smell about her. She was otherwise healthy. I never figured out what was wrong with her.
I’ve known some folks who were manic depressive who developed a very terrible smell when they were manic, but I think it was just from sleeping in their clothes, sweating a lot, smoking and drinking a lot, and maybe not bathing enough. It’s hard to describe but it’s really terrible. They would leave the house and it would still smell. You’d have to open the windows to get rid of it.
Some working class White guys smell bad but I think they are just working all the time, sweating, not washing clothing and not bathing maybe.
September 22, 2009 at 11:02 am
I am a female, and I am not saying this to be racist but when I use a public restroom after a black woman, it usually smells bad. I think they must have a very strong smell down there. Smells like sweat and ass. Sorry, but this is the experience I’ve had.
September 22, 2009 at 2:42 pm
It may be that or simply that blacks have poor hygiene i.e., not bathing for days and not wiping after the deeds. So the smells get stronger as the day progresses.
September 22, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Not to be racist or anything, but whenever white women make pronouncements about the way black women smell, disregard them. They obviously don’t know that many black women.
September 22, 2009 at 3:09 pm
ewwwwww
September 22, 2009 at 3:10 pm
and Jen, you are ignorant
September 22, 2009 at 7:37 pm
“Black men are notorious for not wanting to eat”
I thought Elvis said they were the one’s who liked doing that? He refused to go down on Cybill Shepherd apparently.
September 22, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I wonder how Elvis would know.
September 22, 2009 at 8:03 pm
This black dude has no issues going downtown.
September 29, 2009 at 10:14 am
Without trying to be offensive, I too have noticed that certain black people have an unpleasant, distinct odor. Oddly enough, not all black people have this smell and, in my experience, it is only African-Americans (i.e. not Africans) who do. There also seems to be some sort of inverse correlation with income. I don’t think it’s a diet issue, since blacks and whites in America have pretty similar diets, I’ve often wondered whether it has to do with skin or hair products or whether it’s actually simply an inherent difference. It’s annoying that questions like this don’t get answered since political correctness forbids any discussion, let alone study, of the topic.
October 8, 2009 at 4:52 pm
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December 4, 2009 at 7:44 pm
I would say the biggest factor in body odour is by far, your diet. I’ve noticed this when cuting back on egg and meat products and going for fresher vegetables and grains. This actually seems like common sense to me, but most people don’t get it. I think with black people it is a result of their poor nutritional intake for the most part. Their diets are horrific. No offence, just commenting on what I have observed.