What Romance Languages Do You Know?

If you are interested, tell us in the comments what Romance languages you have knowledge of. As you can see, I am into Romance languages.

Spanish: I had four years in school and then another 1 1/2 years at university, so I can speak it fairly well. I often use it with Spanish speakers around town. However, I am not fluent like a native speaker by any means. I can also read it fairly well to the point where I can actually do research in it. But I certainly do not know every word, and it is not like doing research in English. I can write Spanish fairly well. When I meet South Americans on the Net, they ask me if I was born in Latin America. However, some of them catch on that I am not a native speaker. I can understand it pretty well when spoken but I have a lot of problems with radio, TV and any video or audio in Spanish. I can understand it better if I read it.

I was talking to this Guatemalan woman, and after a while, she said, “You know…You don’t really speak Spanish, do you? But boy do you try!”

This is the only Romance language I can write.

Portuguese: Well I studied it a bit because I was dating a Brazilian woman. I started to learn the language within 24 hours after meeting her. I spoke to her in English and Spanish and she spoke to me in Portuguese, English and Spanish. She spoke some English and Spanish. This arrangement actually worked out pretty well!

I used to get emails a lot from another Brazilian woman I know. I tried to read them, but it was pretty slow going. I still study Portuguese and I try to read it sometimes. I even try to do research in Portuguese, but research in Portuguese is so much harder than doing it in Spanish. To tell the truth, reading Portuguese is a pain. I do know some words of Portuguese but not a lot. I can’t really speak it at all at the moment. When it is spoken, I can understand some of it, but that is mostly due to Spanish resemblance. All in all, I consider Portuguese to be a pain in the ass.

Galician: Cannot speak it but can understand it pretty well when spoken in the standard dialect. I understand it a lot better than I understand Portuguese because it sounds a lot more like Spanish. I have quite a hard time reading Galician. It really isn’t fun at all. Galician is a pain to read. I know a few words, hardly any really.

Asturian/Leonese: Cannot speak it. Cannot understand a word of it when spoken. I have tried to read it and even do research in it, but that is just awful. One of the worst languages in Iberia to read. I do know a few words here and there.

Mirandese: Cannot speak it. Haven’t listened to it in a while. Surprisingly, I find this language fairly easy to read. It looks a lot like Spanish. It is much easier to read than Portuguese or Galician. Don’t really know any words though.

Aragonese: Can understand some of it when spoken. It is very hard to read and I cannot speak it. Do not know any words.

Extremaduran: Reading this language is a complete pain, more or less like reading Asturian-Leonese if not worse. Do not know any words.

Fala: I have heard Fala spoken on videos and I can understand some of it, but honestly, this language is quite a mess, and Galician is a lot easier to understand. I don’t know any words. I have never seen it written down, and I am not even sure if it is a written language.

Catalan: I cannot understand a word of it when spoken, and I cannot speak it. Reading Catalan is quite difficult and very slow-going. It is not pleasant at all. This language is very different from the rest of the Iberian languages. I do not think I know any Catalan words.

Occitan: Cannot speak it. Can understand Aranese fairly well when spoken. I have tried to read Occitan many times but it is a complete nightmare to read. I do not know one word of Occitan.

French: I did take a semester of French at university. I also had a French girlfriend for a while. Not that it did me any good. I cannot understand one word of spoken French. I have tried to speak it a bit, but French speakers kept laughing at me (including the girlfriend) so that inhibited me. I have tried to write French to French speakers on the Net but I can hardly write it at all. French is very hard to read, much worse than Spanish. I have even tried to do research in French, but it was extremely slow-going. French is very different from Iberian languages. I continue to study French off and on. I do know quite a few French words.

Arpitan: Never seen it written, cannot speak it. When listening to it, I can only get occasional words. Very hard to understand. I do not know any words.

Italian: I have studied Italian somewhat but it is very different from Spanish or French and many words do not have obvious connections to Spanish or French. I can read a bit of Italian, but it is very slow-going. I do know some words. I cannot speak Italian at all, and I have never even tried to write it. Italian varies when listening to it on video. With some slow TV-type announcers, I can get some of it. With regular speech, I often will not get one word in a 5 minute broadcast. Italian is extremely hard to understand.

Romansch: I can hardly understand this at all when spoken on TV broadcasts. Interviews with native speakers are easier to understand if they speak slowly. Intelligibility is about like Italian. I do not know any words.

Romanian: Simply awful. I have listened to 8 minute broadcasts of this language and I could not understand one word. Romanian is very hard to read. It is much worse than Italian when it comes to not having obvious connections to other Romance languages I know. This is one of the worst ones of all in terms of reading. I do not know any words. Cannot speak it.

I do not think I have ever heard any of these languages spoken or even seen them written down: Arumanian, Barranquian, Cajun French, Campidanese, Corsican, Emilian, Romagnol, Friulian, Gallurese, Istriot, Istro-Rumanian, Italkian, Ladin, Ladino, Ligurian, Logudorian, Lombard, Megleno-Rumanian, Neapolitan, Picard, Piedmontese,  Sardinian, Sassarese, Sicilian, Venetian, or Walloon.

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Spanish-Italian Mutual Intelligibility

See this video here.

This is an interview with the director of a documentary called Rio De Onor which I would really like to see, except that it is in Italian. Rio de Onor is a town on the border of Spain and Portugal where an odd Senabrian Leonese with Galician influences lect full of Portuguese words is spoken. It is probably similar to Mirandese, but I think it is in a different branch of Leonese than Mirandese is. Rihonores-Mirandese mutual intelligibility (MI) is not known. The town is split. Half of the town is in Portugal, and the other half is in Spain! The residents typically spoke Rihonores, but they also all spoke both Portuguese and Spanish. They spoke Spanish and Portuguese indifferently, mixing them together along with Rihonores.

It is said that Rihonores is extinct or nearly extinct, but that does not seem to be the case. The writeup for this movie says that all of the town’s residents spoke “Mirandese” often during the filming, which took place in 1996. Rio de Onor does not speak Mirandese, but it does speak Rihonores, so the writeup must be referring to Rihonores.

I doubt if Rihonores has gone extinct since then. In addition, a recent paper was written on the grammar of Rihonores. The paper was authored in the mid-1990’s and was written in Portuguese, but I was able to read it in part anyway, especially with the help of a translator. The paper stated that residents of the town now spoke Spanish and Portuguese most of the time. They all knew Rihonores, but its use seemed to be more reserved for special occasions as if it were some sort of ceremonial language.

The town is located in a binational national park and it has a Medieval appearance about it. Rio de Onor has been losing population for some time now and there are not many people left in the town.

At any rate, I continue to see comments that Spanish and Italian are mutually intelligible. Well, I just watched 5 1/2 minutes of an interview with this Italian director, and I can tell you right now that I did not understand one single word he said. That’s a Spanish-Italian MI rate of 0%.

If you don’t know Italian but have knowledge of another Romance language, watch this video and tell me how much Italian you can understand.

I think the MI of Spanish and Italian is much exaggerated.

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A Scots Lexicon

Here is a brief lexicon of some common words in the Scots language. The notion that Scots is a separate language from English frequently evokes howls of rage for all sorts of ignorant quarters. Whereas we calm linguists rarely get worked up about such things.

Look at that list below. Does that look like the English language? If someone came into your house and started talking to you using a lot of words like those, would you be able to understand them? How could you?

Obviously Scots and English are two separate languages. They split apart about 1500 for some reason. Anyone know why they might have split apart around that time? I do not.

a'thing      everything
ablo         lowest
adee         wrong
ae           one
ahint        behind
aiblins      perhaps
airselins    backwards
aisedom      leisure
anent        about, concerning
aneth        beneath
athort       across
atweesh      between
awfu         bursting
awgates      always
ay           always
ayont        beyond
bairnag      little
bairn        child
bann         curse
beard        bread
below        lower
ben          in
bide         live
birling      spinning
bittock      little bit
bosie        hug
bouat        lantern
boun         ready
bowk         retch
brae         slope
braw         fine, handsome
brawlies     splendidly
breeks       britches
brulzie      broil
buiner       upper
buinmaist    topmost
bummer       foggy
burnie       small
burn         stream
byken        wasps' nest
cast         drop
caumie       calm
caur         calves
chap         knock
Cheordag     Geordie
chield       fellow
claik        gossip
cludgie      toilet
clum         climbed
cowp         overturn
cuit         ankle
darg         work
daunter      saunter
dicht        wipe
dous         pigeons
dowp, dock   butt
dree         endure
dreich       dreary
dunch        push
een          eyes
endweys      straight ahead
evyte        avoid
Fa?          Who?
fair         very
Fan?         When?
fauchelt     tired
fauch        fallow
Faur?        Where?
feartie      coward
fell         kill
feth         faith
Filk?        Which?
fillie       long time
Fit?         What?
fly          cup of tea
fon          folly
forenicht    evening
forenuin     morning
forfochten   tired
fowkgates    culture
fuishen      fetched
futrat       weasel
Fy?          Why?
gaberlunzie  a beggar
gaed         went
gamie        gamekeeper
gate         street
gealt        cold
geylies      pretty well
girse        grass
gloamin      early morning
gnegum       tricky nature
grieve       overseer
gulsochs     sweets, cream cakes, donuts, caramels
haingles     influenza
hauflins     partly
hause        neck
heuch        cliff
hidlins      secretly
hooseockie   small house
hypothec     shebang
ilkagate     everywhere
ilkawey      everywhere
ingangin     reception
kent         knew
knapdarloch  dung knots in wool on a sheep's bottom
kye          cows
lavvy        toilet
ligaun       dusk, day
louns        boys
lown         calm
luif         palm
luitten      let
maistlins    almost
maunna       mustn't
maw          seagull
mayat        meat, food
Menzies      Mackenzie
muith        sultry
nether       lower
ngan         onion
onygate      anyhow
oo           wool
pad          path
piece        food
playock      toy
pooshun      poison
qoho         for whom
queans       girls
rax          stretch
raxt         reached
ream         cream
reive        steal
rhodie       rhododendron
ruise        praise
sark         shirt
scaith       damage
sheuch       ditch
skelpit      smacked
skelp        smack
sour rock    sorrel
spae         foretell
spate        flood
speir        inquire
speirt       asked
stank        a drain
steek        shut
stoursucker  vacuum cleaner
stroup       spout
sybae        onion
the hairst   autumn
the nou      at the moment
thir         these
thrang       busy
tint         lost
twaloors     midday
twalt        twelfth 
weeoors      twilight
wey          at times
whit wey     how
wifeockie    little woman
wyte         blame
yett         gate

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Bigfoot News October 19, 2014

Additional evidence in favor of the Stacy Brown story. As you remember, I broke a story a while back about Stacy Brown being offered $500K for a supposed Bigfoot arm he dug up, selling it to a man from Ohio, then buying an alligator arm from a taxidermist and pitching it around to everyone as the Bigfoot arm to the point of even having it DNA tested to prove it was an alligator arm.

Most people have rejected this story, in particular, Randy did over at his blog. His idiot supporters claim that Randy proved that I was wrong. He did no such thing. He simply laid out the evidence and made his case that the story was not true. That’s all he did. He didn’t prove one single thing. As it stands now, no one has proven that the story is either true or false.

But I recently got corroboration from a second party about this story. This man is widely known in the community and has a good reputation. He is not a researcher so much as he is a reporter. Keep in mind that this man, though we are acquaintances, does not necessarily agree with me. In fact, he is dubious of a lot of my breaking stories because he thinks too many of them lack good supporting evidence. However, he did think there was something to this one. This is what he told me on October 1:

Hi…I was told by a reader and Bigfooter (who I believe to be honest) approx two weeks ago (on September 16) that Stacy Brown and an associate had a scheme in order to sell an actual Bigfoot arm (he said ‘body part’) to an enthusiast. I hadn’t heard or read anything else…but when I read your information, it seemed to be on the same wavelength.

Well at least the story has been corroborated coming from an independent source. That doesn’t mean it is true. But it does mean that it is not just coming from me – it is coming from independent sources also.

The nonsense about Rick Dyer. While there are some sites that milk the Dyer rumor mill for all it is worth, I have given up on it entirely. I must be honest and tell you that I and many of my friends and colleagues feel burned by Rick. He ripped off a lot of people, including us. That’s what he does. He rips people off. He’s a con artist. He doesn’t know how to do anything other than con.

About whether or not Rick shot a Bigfoot, whether he shot at it and missed, whether he shot at it, hit it and wounded it, whether he shot it and killed it, we will simply never know. However, I feel that it is quite clear that Rick was shooting at real Bigfoots that night. That is also a real Bigfoot in the Tent Video. And in Shooting Bigfoot, there are two real Bigfoots in the night scene – the first one that Rick is shooting at (maybe he misses it, maybe he hits it and wounds it, and maybe he kills it), and the second one that knocks Morgan Matthews down. There may also be a baby Bigfoot there. You can hear audio that sounds like one.

To me it is simply obvious that those are real Bigfoots in the Tent Video and in Shooting Bigfoot. The Dyer-haters have gone into conniptions trying to prove that this footage is faked, and they have failed utterly and completely. They have never produced the mask, costume or stunt man for the Tent Video. They have never produced anyone confessing it is fake. They have never produced the stunt men (two of them), masks, and costumes used by the stunt men in Shooting Bigfoot either, and they have had a lot of time. They have never produced one statement from anyone around the film stating that the scene was faked.

If those are obviously real Bigfoots in the night scenes, we know that Rick is shooting real bullets at them. How do we know this? Because Morgan Matthews stated that Rick was shooting real bullets that night. But after that, we know little. We do not know if the bullets missed the Bigfoot or hit it. And if they hit it, did they wound it or kill it? No one knows. Not only that, but we will probably never know, so there is not much point fighting about it. The anti-Dyer case is profoundly weak and truly preposterous. It rests on many absurd assumptions that defy all logic and common sense. Nevertheless, 99% of our community believes them totally.

Morgan Matthews was in on a hoax to hoax Bigfoot footage in a documentary movie. That is truly ridiculous. Anyway, documentaries must be truthful and cannot include faked or hoaxed footage.

The Bigfoots were produced with stunt men, masks, costumes or CGI. There are no credits for costume designers, special effects studios, stunt men or CGI in the final credits. There would have to be if any of those were used in the footage. The notion that Matthews would use any of these and not give credit for them is insane.

The entire scene was hoaxed by the film crew: You would think that with all the people in on this hoaxed movie, someone would have come forward now. That no one has come forward blowing the whistle is truly bizarre.

Masks, stunt men, and costumes were used. The problem is where are these masks? Where are these costumes? Which special effects studio produced them, if any? Matthews was operating on a tight budget and so was Rick. They could not afford to hire a fancy special effects studio. Then Rick would have had to have made them himself. How could Rick Dyer have made two of the greatest Bigfoot masks and costumes ever produced? Makes no sense at all.

The Bigfoot that hit Morgan is holding up a mask. They never proved that.

The Bigfoot that hits Morgan has a face that does not move. I do not believe this is important, nor does it prove that it is not a mask. Anyway, I am told that the face does move.

Morgan was slapped down and beat up by a stunt man: Matthews was beat up fairly bad after his encounter. Apparently all the Bigfoot/stunt man did was slap him down with its bare hand. Can you show me how any stunt man on Earth can slap another human being onto the ground with a bare palm, leaving them badly beat up by being slapped? Not possible. No way.

Morgan Matthews lied and said those were real bullets when they were really blanks. Come on. Get real now.

Rick was shooting real bullets, but he was shooting them at his stunt man, and he was deliberately missing. I do not think even Rick is nuts or evil enough to do so.

Matthews admitted that a stunt man in a costume knocked him over. The quote below is typical of this attitude. Yet it is 100% untrue. Nevertheless, probably 99% of our community believes this:

MM did end this. At the film showing in Edinburgh, when asked what had attacked him, he said he knew it was someone in a costume.

Yes, and that is not what he said in Edinburgh at all. In fact, I do not think he even addressed the question in Edinburgh.

Matthews admitted that the body was a fake. He did no such thing. Here is an example of this line:

Matthews admitted privately to someone closely connected to the movie that the so called “tent” video never happened and the alleged Bigfoot seen in Shooting Bigfoot was a guy in a suit.

Totally fake story. Apparently this is a deliberate lie put out by the Dyer haters. The Dyer haters put out and endless series of deliberate lies, passed out fake info and lies as truth to all sorts of good people, and just in general behaved with horrifying depravity all through this episode. The worst lie manufacturer of all was a scumbag named Don Boucher.

This man invented an endless series of lies and tall tales all proving that this was a scam. If I am not mistaken, the execrable Mr. Boucher made up this lie too and then passed it out as truth. I might add that liars like this guy make it all harder for us to do our job. I am sure that even Dyer haters like Randy do not appreciate being fed lies and crap from his own team. After all, Randy appears interested in uncovering the truth as many of us are.

Now we get to the meat of the story. The body. Rick has so massively and totally bungled this end of the story with his lying, cheating, stealing and general horrific criminal and sociopathic behavior that even if there is a body (still a possibility) I am quite certain that it will never see the light of day. Why? Because Rick Dyer destroyed this story so badly that any body that might exist can never be allowed to turn up. If you think this is odd, check out my past stories about Bigfoot shootings and killings.

There are over 100 documented Bigfoot shootings and 43 documented Bigfoot killings. Now we do not know if any of these are real. Those are just stories. But there are nearly 200 shooting stories and 43 killing stories. What do we have to show from all of that? We have jack. Nothing. F-all. Were there any real Bigfoots shot  or killed in those 250-odd cases? Really no one knows. Not only that, but no one will ever know. Maybe they were, maybe they weren’t. Maybe there have been bodies in the past, maybe there haven’t. Maybe the stories are true, and maybe they aren’t. No one knows.

It’s all a big mystery. I would like to suggest that the Rick Dyer shooting and killing go down in history along with these other 250-odd tales of Bigfoots being shot and/or killed. I suppose it’s about as likely to be true as any of those other stories, and it has about as much evidence for truth as any of those other stories, which is zip, jack all, nada, nothing, none.

I think this is a good place to leave the Rick Dyer story. What could have been a great story, possibly even including a body, was utterly destroyed via the incompetence, sinister behavior, criminality and sociopathy of a two-bit con man and crook named Rick Dyer. Rick has now poisoned the well so badly that nothing truthful or provable can ever come out of this story. And we may as well just leave it at that.

The main problem here is that the finest Bigfoot footage since the Patterson film, the Tent Video and the Shooting Bigfoot footage, is now also tainted for all of time. The finest Bigfoot footage ever shot is now regarded by 99% of our community as a pitiful hoax. And the sole reason for that is because this killer footage is associated with Rick Dyer. Because it is associated with Dyer, it is hoaxed, goes the obvious logical fallacy. If we can get over the unproductive and probably unprovable argument over a body which will in all probability never turn up anyway, we ought to be talking about the movie footage. But we aren’t. And we never will. And that is a tragedy.

Charges never answered. Rick-haters have posted these questions a long time ago. It is very interesting that none of these questions have been answered, even partially. These questions revolve around the idea that the San Antonio footage was a hoax:

1. Whose idea it was.
2. How the whole thing was developed.
3. Who was in on it: Dyer, Musky, FBFB, Matthews, some of them, all of them?
4. When Musky came into it.
5. What role FBFB played in funding, whether it was as collaborators or supporters.
6. How and when the Tent Video was made.
7. Who was in on it during the doc filming, and what costume was used.
8. Whether Matthews was in on it altogether, and if not then why he agreed to keep quiet and play along rather than expose Dyer’s outrageous assault, which arguably would have been a more devastating conclusion to a film about desperate men
9. Whether Dyer will ultimately escape the wrath of those with grievances against him

It is stunning that skeptics are no closer to answering any of these questions than they were when those questions were published. The problem is that none of those questions can be answered because they are all based on a false premise that the San Antonio footage was hoaxed.

Other players. The problem with the nutty conspiracy line is that it has to include all sorts of people. We can’t just agree that Rick is a scumbag who took a lot of good folks, for a ride, nope! His victims have to be in on it!

Here is something of the idiocy being tossed about attempting to implicate FB/FB and Musky Allen in “the hoax,” which incidentally they have never proven to be a hoax. If they mean the fake body, then clearly FB/FB were badly burned victims here, and Musky, instead of being in on it, was the hoax-buster who uncovered it and pulled the plug!

There is not one single word of truth in any of the following:

Matthews must have at least planned the end scenes with Dyer. If Matthews was attacked by a real Bigfoot (which he wasn’t), then Dyer’s story about shooting one would most likely stand up. (which it didn’t) If there was a dead Bigfoot body then a professional cameraman would have conclusive, in-focus 100% undeniable footage (Which there isn’t any).

Plainly Matthews movie set out to take the piss out of redneck Bigfoot hunters, He got all the redneck stuff but needed a big finale, what better than “I was attacked by a Bigfoot…believe it or not.” Then he went home and kept his mouth shut so he could air his movie, mission accomplished. He used Dyer as a the egotistical fool he is, then pissed on him, so good on MM.

FB/FB were coming out with a book and needed promotion, when they heard dyer was in a BF movie = they paid dyer thousands to help promote the book. Lynk and Clancy said someone gave him thousands$.

Of course MM was in on it you fools. If he didn’t agree to keep his mouth shut in some form of agreement with Dyer he would have blabbed about Dyer lying.

Mathews needed a ending for his movie, otherwise that movie was just another yawn fest BF documentary.

FB/FB wanted to push sales on their sorry book which wouldn’t of sold any with out the hype of this hoax.

Rug Boy paid Musky Allen = as soon Allen gets paid he does interview with FB/FB on Youtube about viewing the body.

There’s no way Matthews wasn’t in on it. Come on…they’re out in the woods together, just the two of them? How does Dyer coordinate a hoax on Matthews out there? Matthews may be a sissy but he didn’t become a successful director by being oblivious to what’s going on around him.

I just moseyed over to https://www.facebook.com/FindBigfoot for the first time in a while and there’s a pretty interesting discussion that’s been going on in the comments among Larry Perkins and some others. We have to remember that this has to go deeper than Dyer to have gone so far, and we need to be as enraged at his accessories (or handlers) as much as him. In my mind that includes Matthews and Issleb, but I’ve been back-and-forth about “Jack Barnes.”

The recent comments over there, including some long ones from Perkins, actually have put me back onto thinking FBFB was in on it…you just can’t look past their claims that seven people and two MD’s examined the body and thought it was real, or at least couldn’t say it wasn’t. That is absolutely laughable.

Was it a psychological experiment? A scam to sell books? Both? They and Musky have been tied together so closely from the beginning, culminating in their trip to see Musky after the premiere to get him to verify the creature when the movie didn’t cause a stir.

They actually claimed to show him many frames from the film which “Musky” absolutely verified as the same creature he saw, and which they then claimed they deleted because of “copyright concerns” without showing anyone else…no other researchers or anyone saw it but Musky. Why not show someone with real credibility if it was truly better than PGF??? Even in private???? That was the big clue right there that they had to make up a quick scenario to keep things going, and it worked.

I’ve been back and forth but now I’m back. Consider that “Jack Barnes” is a successful businessman with a lot of money to blow…these kinds of men are not wishy-washy doormats such as the profile that’s been created to support the theory that he was not in on it. Being calculating and devious is one way to build a fortune, but being a starry-eyed fool is decidedly not.

I strongly disagree that Dyer should be held totally separate from Matthews and Musky and FBFB. It’s a matter of degree.

Dyer may be the ugly face of the thing, and he may regularly go rogue with horrible actions that they wouldn’t condone, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t responsible for creating the monster and constantly nourishing it.

If Matthews and Dyer cooked this up, then Dyer is the instrument, but Matthews is just as culpable and should be held equally accountable for all of Dyer’s misdeeds. Even if Dyer pulled the hoax on Matthews and he simply “went with it,” its really no different. That’s true in any court of law and should be true in this case.

Surely Musky is equally accountable. Whether he planned it with Dyer or came in as an “accessory after the fact” is strictly a matter for the sentencing judge.

As for Barnes and the FBFB gang, they either helped plan and finance it; came in after the incident to promote their agenda; or were duped and just ran with it. Again, it’s a matter of degree.

Dyer could not have done this without Matthews, Musky, and Barnes. Barnes is the only one who could be completely innocent (except of being a fool), but that is looking less likely day by day.

The idea that Matthews or Musky should be applauded for sticking it to Dyer after collaborating with him is giving Dyer too much credit and giving them too much benefit of the doubt. Whatever Matthews and Musky may have done “to” Dyer (lessening the impact of the movie’s BF footage and exposing the fake tour body, respectively), it’s not the same as them totally going “state’s evidence” with clear confessions that publicly hang Dyer out to dry.

And the “Matthews is just a filmmaker” arguments ring hollow to me. He didn’t make Citizen Kane. If anything, exposing Dyer in the film or at any point afterward would have heightened the profile of a film that’s turned out to be just another one of a million documentaries no one cares about anymore. As as Dyer started pulling his shenanigans like accusing Liam Gray of bestiality, Matthews was the only one who could have shut him down, and he didn’t.

Documentary be damned…but Matthews was in too deep I think, and would have exposed his own complicity. At the very least he would have to admit that his “documentary” hedged on telling the whole story, which could affect his reputation. He wasn’t “hyping” a movie like it was some Hollywood blockbuster, he was keeping his ass covered.

That’s my belief at least.

Musky Allen. The argument is that Musky was in on the “hoax” from the very start. They have never proven this. In fact, they have never presented the tiniest bit of evidence that he was in on any sort of a hoax at any time. In fact, the best evidence indicates that he actually uncovered the part of this even that was hoaxed – the fake body taken on tour. So instead of being a hoaxer, Musky instead is the opposite. He is just like the folks at Randy’s blog – a hoax-buster!

The report with resulting audio of Musky’s visit to look at the body of Hank in some government facility has never been disproven, despite tremendous effort expended to do so. I find the report to be very convincing, but then that means that there had to be a body, for which there is not a lot of evidence. In fact, some of the only evidence in favor of a body is Musky’s testimony.

The problem is that Musky’s testimony has not been proven true either. Did he go see a real body at this facility? Was he shown a fake body? Was the physician there at the time a stunt man placed there by Rick? Was this a real government facility? Where was it located? Which branch of the government had the body? Why did the body smell like formaldehyde and embalming fluid?

The truth is that just as skeptics can not and will probably never prove that the Musky body-viewing was made up and never occurred, those of us who find it convincing in spite of the fact that it implies a body will probably never be able to prove that the Musky episode occurred at all. Perhaps it happened. Perhaps he was shown a fake with stunt men. Perhaps he made up the whole thing and is such a great actor that he ought to move to Hollywood.

In Bigfoot history, once again there is nothing new here. If you look at my past body reports, you will see that there have been a number of cases of witnesses reporting that bodies were taken by government officials or were taken to government labs or research hospitals to be studied. The stories have never been proven, but they have never been shown to be lies either. They are just unsolved mysteries which will remain so for all of time. And so it is with the Musky Allen body viewing story – another mystery that will never be solved.

Even more dubious is that Musky was in on “the hoax” from the very start. All  accounts suggest that Musky was a particularly belligerent loudmouthed skeptic who dared Rick to prove his body claim. Rick then took him up on the offer. He later produced a Paul on the road to Damascus audio in which he seemed, stunned, shocked, emotional and newly converted to an unwanted but necessary belief that these creatures were real.

He then reluctantly takes up with Rick based on his conversion experience. Much nonsense follows, including an episode in which he taints all prior testimony by admitting to lying a few times, first about the location of the body and then about feeling me wrong information (which he never did). Sorry this story also has a sorry and sleazy ending, but the skeptics have still never proven that Musky was “in on the hoax.” In fact, other than the fake body, there have never proven that the rest of the story was a hoax at all, try as they might.

Facebook Find Bigfoot. These guys are some of the true losers in this event. They got taken for a ride badly with Rick’s fake body, investing $50,000 in what turned out to be an elaborate hoax that even fooled two physicians. Their reputation in the community is very poor, which is sad because they are very good people. They are regarded as hoaxers and of course they are not. Both are furious at Rick and are considering taking legal action against him, which I can now report for the first time.

What about Andrew Clacy? Just another guy who got played. Andrew is a rather sleazy person, as you can see in the report below someone who knew this scammer back when he was in high school. But then again, this is Late Capitalism we are living in now, and just how many successful folks are not scammers in one way or another anyway? You scam, you win, you play fair, you lose. Late Capitalism is a pond where the scum rises to the top. Virgins and altar boys live hand to mouth when they are not homeless and living out of their cars.

I went to school with Andrew Clacy and now live in the same town. He was full of it at school, and many of his Internet sites prey on the gullible & lonely ( funny that’s how I would describe Clacy). I only got interested in this when Clacy went on local TV saying he was going on tour with a dead Bigfoot.

Straight away I new it would be a hoax. Then I researched Dyer and it all fitted together. I listened to Clacy’s interview and it sounded just like school days. “It wasn’t me miss, I didn’t do it, he made me”. Strangely though he is dumb enough to have been sucked in. But he did say at the start he knew for sure it was real, and he did take part in fleecing money from people. Seems all involved are full-time losers. Glad people are waking up to Clacy. He got blood (if not from a Bigfoot) on his hands.

I do not believe that this is accurate. As we can see, back in school days, Clacy saw the economic writing on the wall and decided to be a successful scammer, er, I mean capitalist! He got involved in the Internet “industry,” surely one of the slimiest, dirtiest and filthiest scam-filled capitalist cesspools, er, I mean industries, on Earth. It’s utterly unregulated, so it’s crawling with liars, cheaters and thieves. In fact you will probably run across 50 people trying to rip you off on the Internet for every one you find in real life. That’s because fraud in real life is illegal (except in India) except on the Internet, where fraud is apparently perfectly legal, thanks to the “don’t regulate the Internet” scum screaming at the top of their lungs every time we try to do something about it.

I figure Clacy figured this was another one of his barely legal Net type scams from the start. He wasn’t sure if the thing was real or not. He didn’t say it was real from the start. I have an inside quote from him from inside TT where he says he is 70% sure it is real. As the tour went on, I have no idea what he thought, but I am certain that he was not certain it was a fraud. We are told that he was getting more and more angry and suspicious as the tour went on.

After Musky and Jeff Barnes uncovered the fake body, Clacy immediately packed up shop and left disgustedly, which was the proper and decent thing to do. I doubt if he did this because his scam was now uncovered. He probably did it because it was the respectable thing to do, and because he was angry at being one more victim of Rick’s scams.

And here is the latest nutty news about Rick. Quote:

Big news on the Rick Dyer front.

Bigfoot press conference will be in Atlanta on Jan 15 2015, Dyer says Hank has been in Georgia since Sept 12, 2012. There will be 26 experts who worked on Hank speaking at the presser. Hank is frozen in a large case and will eventually go to a museum. Dyer invited David Durrett and Pinkfoot to come back if they want. Press conference will be in a 400 plus venue, 100 seats for press. Dyer to release photo of freezer truck and photo of Hank dead. Yikes.

Well, this is most interesting, but Rick has promised us this press conference for some time now, and over and over, it has proven to be a false alarm. It is time to yawn at all of these claims and say put up or shut up. If and when Rick has a body, he needs to show it to us, fake or not. Then we will evaluate if it is even real, as this scumbag has already presented us with two fake bodies. If he has a real body, great. He will go down in history, though this honor could not happen to a less deserving person. Until then, we should not put much stake in this boy who cried wolf announcements.

Update: Rick has recently stated that this press conference may be delayed again and there is a good possibility that it will not even occur. So here we go again, with the endless delays. Really this guy needs to be ignored until once again he shows us something we can examine.

Great Wild Bigfoot Tales. Some great stories about close human Bigfoot encounters, including Bigfoots being hit by trains and trucks, being shot at by teams of humans and a man who was attacked and kill by a Bigfoot. The man even has a name! Note, about the man killed in Alaska, should we not try to track down his relatives or ancestors?

Bigfoots Hit by Vehicles

Unknown City, Hwy 101 location, January 1973. A truck driver hit a 7 foot Bigfoot on US 101. The front of the logging truck was badly damaged, but there was no report on the condition of the Bigfoot.”

Powers, Oregon. One Bigfoot was hit by a train, and a farmer kept it in a barn until it was better.

Portland, Oregon. A Bigfoot was hit and was on the side of the road.

The Apes Among Us, by John Green

Nulato, Alaska: Albert Petka of Nulato, AK was attacked by a reported Bigfoot on his boat. His dogs drove the creature off, but Mr. Petka later died of his injuries.

The Historical Bigfoot, by Chard Arment

Meadville, Mississippi: In 1868, a hair-covered, bipedal creature was pursued by hunters with hounds after terrorizing people in Meadville, MS. The hounds chased the creature westward to the banks of the Mississippi River where they bayed it. When the hunters got there, they urged the dogs onward, and the dogs tried to catch it (dogs are commonly used to catch wild hogs, etc.).

The creature killed one of the dogs, and the men began to fire at it, at which time it leaped into the river and swam for the other side. It should be noted that the river is very wide at this point.

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Praise for Beyond Highbrow

Here is an example of the some of the praise I have gotten around the Net. I don’t have only haters, you know.

First, on the non-Bigfoot stuff:

Lindsay is an indie version of Michael Moore or John Pilger.

RL seems like one of those nonconformist, brilliant, independent thinkers – the kind of people I really admire, and the kind that you *never* see in the MSM.

And now from the Bigfoot Net, where I am most reviled:

Steven Steufert: Re. Robert Lindsay, well, he seems like a cool guy to me, to the extent that I’ve heard him, and discussed things with him via email. He is just a curious guy delving deeply into the Bigfooting rumor mill. He has found some amazing things, even if not all of it is actually true in the end.

He should be commended for the dogged determination he has shown in digging up these things and developing the network of contacts and sources that he has. I say this in reference to his Bigfoot news, not whatever other views he has expressed (to great controversy) on his blog. He has a right to his own personal opinions, and really, whatever they are, they have very little to do with the quality of information in his Bigfoot articles.

Sharon Lee: I am starting to think that maybe we should pay more attention to Robert Lindsay.

Bigfoot Forums: Anyone still willing to state RL is irrelevant and just pulls stuff from his posterior side? The guy has contacts. Never 100% correct, but don’t dismiss his ramblings.

Bigfoot Forums: What is interesting is that this reviled blogger gets so much traction. I visit the blog for the Bigfoot news; I can’t help it. Sadly, I researched a lot of his claims – some I am intimate with personally. It is not all garbage. Inflammatory yes, but interesting how that works. Each raising of the anger bar brings more players out talking.

 

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What Language Is This?

This is a very interesting lect. It is Romance, obviously, and if you read carefully, you can even see that it is once again Iberian Romance. The problem is that this is not an officially designated language but instead is considered to be a dialect of the official language. However, there is some controversy about this. At any rate, this is definitely the most divergent dialect of the official language.

 Important linguists such as Francisco Martínez Torres and Antonio Sánchez Verdú, among others, have stated that this is a fully structured language with a huge number of speakers. It is possibly transitional between two of the major languages in the area, but it is actually transitional between four languages in the area, including one extinct one and a large dialect of the official language. This dialect has been heavily affected by a major foreign language that was once widely spoken in the region about 1000 years ago but is no longer spoken here.

It is more likely that there are two lects here, a real language with poor intelligibility with other lects and a dialect which is a dialect of the official language. As such, the situation is similar to Andalucian where there is a hard Andalucian that may be a language and an Andalucian-Spanish that is a dialect of Spanish. The hard version may or may not even exist because as with Sayagues an exaggerated version of the hard speech has been used for comic effect for some time in this nation. Hence it is unknown if the hard version really exists or if it is just made up Pinocchio type lect by some comics. At any rate it is said that the hard version, which has only a few older speakers in rural areas, cannot be understood outside the region.

This lect has the same name as a large province of the state.

I believe there was a crown by this name also during the Middle Ages until it was conquered by another crown. May God have mercy on the conquerors!

Francisco Martínez Torres and Antonio Sánchez Verdú have written a dictionary of this language. It also has an official implementation, a sample of which you can see below. As you can see, it looks a lot like the official language, once again similar to Andaluz.

If you cannot figure it out, you can always look up the major dialects of the official language and it will be right there.

Creo que lo que dicen en llenguamaere es una verdad como un puño.

Sigún estadísticas muncho fiables, esisten más e cinco milentás e llenguas en to’r mundo. La farta e protegiura, l’endiferencia u l’embiste a to lo que costetuya un diferiencial idiomático e la llengua predominanta es motigo e risá a la llengua menoritaria y’un arrempujón pa qu’esapaezca. Aborica mesmo la espichan e vainte a trainta llenguas ca añá.

Solicamente l’insensibiliá y l’inorancia esprefollan er que sertores e muncho influgio social alevanten la corbilla pa escachifollalla, denquivocándose ar piensar qu’escachuflando estas jormas piculiares d’espicace puén hacer más juerte y jrande er roal d’influgio e las amoteás llenguas poerosas u uficiales, que suelen desfrutar d’asobine y’estatuto propio.

La mayoría los llingüistas conciden en su piensamiento e que toiquias las llenguas tién los mesmos raijos y que juon dimpués tresmuándose dista dar nacencia a pláticas dialeutales, pa rematar en llenguas destintas con borilis propios y parableros únicos, en remanencia con las neseziás der presonal con caraiterísticas autórtonas que riflejan la condición, er sintir y l’hestoria e la parvá e presonas que las usa.

Munchas feces, las llenguas menoritarias son acusás e no tiner riconocencia uficial, e prisentar un sejo populista u folclórico sin presonaliá propia, orviando que dengún llenguaje es er preduto e l’inorancia, sinós la risurta d’un pasao hestórico ande creyencias, suponíos, hábitos y jormas e vía en general han costetuyío un trejemaneje e remanencias.

Estas llenguas creticás y vetuperás han encarruchao la mayoría e las feces a una munchá d’hombres y mujeres qu’han ponío er fuste e su llengua en l’intuicismo y’en la presapia que surge e la remanencia e la presona humana con er medio u con otra parvá e metas sociales bien destinguías.

Asina, la valúa y’er rispeuto a estas llenguas menoritarias no tié su fuste solicamente en er parablero, sinós que dende un esfise antropológico y’hestórico costetuyen y jueban un papel e valúa imprescindible pa l’escubrición e nuevos datos u hallajos que favorecen a esprefollar remanencias intrecurturales u a poner lus a l’escarculle y’astudio d’aventos precisos.

No interesa la oficialidad del ni del ni del ni desde sectores facheriles y franquistas hasta sectores putimultilinguistas e izquierdonacionalistas unos porque son centralista y de la una grande y libre y otras porlas subenciones que reciben y que habria que repartir con las demas lenguas ibericas y que coño mola mas ir de yo hablo un idioma y tu es que no sabes hablar.

Si tu amiga quiere conocer el IDIOMA le recomiendo la pagina web de llenguamaere que ya te han puesto mas para arriba y tambien que le heche un ojo a ‘enciclopedia en.

La llengua, es el llenguaje traicional e hestórico que se usaba en la Rigión la Vega Baja, y angunas comarcas en la.

Ordenamiento llengüístico el Crasificación

Endo-uropea -> itálico -> grupo romance -> romance -> italo-ociental -> sugrupo oriental -> ibero-romance->
Apostación
Grandaria jográfica
Númbero platicantes
Varieás
Origen e la llengua

La Rigión (y las comarcas linderas hablantes), sus costumbres y su llengua son el preduto natural e la convevencia durante sieglos de razas destintas n’un punto detreminao la jografía pelinsular, puerta d’entrá en l’antegüedá pa las curturas traicionales y más esenvolicás de la cuenca el. Pa compriender bien los raíjos d´esta jorma d’hablar qui se da en semos d´hacer un repaso corto a l’hestoria el terraje.

Dende la previncia romana Carthaginense, a la quala seguió la bizantina Oróspeda, y que con los visigós pasó a ser Aurariola, el sureste pelinsular ya prisientaba rajos peculiares remanientes con el latino qu’allí s’hablaba y s’habló durante l’época visigótica. A l’esfaratarse´l raino visigód con l´allegá los se costetuye la Cora Todmir u Raino Teodomiro.

Este Raino que dende su nacencia jué l’único en tener otonomía drento, mantenió su habla dialeutal latina que dió dempués iba a dar en los y dista el sieglo XIII la latinia u “l´Aljamía Oriente”, una llengua romance renchía. Durante cinco sieglos se mantenió más menos viva esa llengua, lo qu´ayubó a ajuntar la traición llengüística el raino a la trayía po los nuevos conquistaores.

Del romance aquel quean parablas como ababol, abercoque, alcacil, aletría, aniaga, angor, arciprés, asina y ansina, boria, cabolo, caliche, cauz, caparra, compaña, corrental, dende, dica, falluto, juntamento, Migalo, morciego y morciguillo, murria, pagamenta, pancha, ponocha, perifolla, quijero, trompiche, truje, verrugo, vide u visibilo.

La dominación n’el Raino remata con la conquista po la parte los de.

Dende´l 1243, con los numberosos que juón a repuel-lar el Raino, pronto se jundión el romance con el, jormando este mezclije la base llengüística la llengua.

Con la conquista po la parte los del Raino, d´intre los foranos, juón premiero los curas los que vinión a predicar el a estas tierras.

El ascrebío más antigo que se conoce en llengua romance en esta Rigión se fecha a la fin del mes d´Agosto e l´año 1244 y está ascrebío en. Tamién repuellaores que vinión a ampostarse en trujión con ellos su llengua, aejando una herencia muncho siñalá que tavía premanece en parablas.

Tamién, los catalanes de l’epoca punión su parte en la jormación el. Semos d´aprecibirnos que, anque no juón pocos los que venión a repuel-lar, la mayoría los foranos de la Corona eran.

Anque, po otro lao, no es verdá eso que quasi la metá el lésico peculiar tié un raíjo, pos dañover pasa que se cuentan como parablas de, de u del mesmo romance.

Como semos visto, l´allegá contina e destintos puel-los, con caráiteres llingüísticas peculiares, su convevencia durante sieglos y su entrecambio curtural drento nuestras lindes, hación qu’apaiciá la llengua. Sus caraiteres proprias son el preduto la fusión y el mestizaje: del romance el sustrato y una grande parte la gramancia y el lésico, de y el una munchá e parablas y giros, y del las suluciones fonéticas moernas y una grande cantidá lesico.

Tos estos caraiteres s’han mantenío dica hogaño, mayormente en las zonas gambestres, pero inda comedio el sieglo XX, con la generalización la enseñanza en, el enflugio los meios de comunicación y el cá ve menor ail-lamiento d’otras tierras, aviene menguando su uso de contino, tiendiendo incia´l castellano normativo.

Hestoria

En l´hestoria dialeutal se dan tres epocas prencipales:

Romance

Pace ser qu’ende el tiempo los visigos (s. II A.C.), el llatino d´aquí era destinto a los otros; el cualo más dempués iba seer con el Rayno Tudmir (s. VIII) el romance, hubiendo con toa certeniá destinciones intre´l romance usao po los y el romance usao po los. El romance d´esta epoca s´amotea romance.

Romance meyebal

Con l´allegá e los destintos dialeutos romances qui trayiban los del norte, el dialeuto se mezclijó a estos dialeutos, jormándose entoces, el dialeuto meiebal, el cualo, es como una koiné romance qui mezclija caráiteres de tos los destintos dialeutos romances, juendo la base el romance otóctono, al cualo se le van amontando lésico y caráiteres qu´allegan con los las llenguas los foranos del norte.

Ansina, amás de rajos proprios y otóctonos, puedemos encuentrar una grande munchá e lésico antigo, moerno… El romance este, en la güerta desiempre foé conocío con el mote.

“Español hablado en”

Este “Español hablado en” n´es na más que´l dialeuto ultrao, juertemente enfluyío po el castellano moerno, como se vé en las munchas suluciones fonéticas que´l dialeuto adouttó del castillano, en el lésico qui remplaza muncho aina al, y gineralmente en tos laos, supuesto que los rajos que se mantién son minores en comparanza con los castillanos, los cualos abondan muncho.

To esto avinió por varios motigos: uno poique s´imponió una educancia púl-lica en español normativo; lluego unos meyos de cumunicación en español normativo, y ya p´arrematar, la questión más emportante: el castillano de siempre jué aquí la llengua los gubernantes, l´aristocracia, la classe adinerá, y po ello se conmertió n´el moelo llengüístico a deseguir, pasando´l, qu´era la plática pupular, a seer una jorma d´hablar malmirá, creticá y rediculizá, una jorma d´hablar qu´haiba que espaicer, y ansina jué como pasó con el avenir del tiempo.

Ansina, el enflujio castillano ha hacío espaecer al dialeuto cuasi entericamente, redujiéndolo a malas penas a una jelepa rajos qu´endemás se cumparten con to´l roal hispano-hablante. Sin encambio, pace ser qui s´arrima abora incia´l dialeuto una epoca güena, supuesto qu´han apaecío recién destintas presonas de detintos llugares que s´han dimponío a mantiner con via este antigo y variao dialeuto. Estas presonas son conocientes d´un dialeuto menos castellanizao, y llunchan po la dinificación y honramiento el dialeuto.

Hogaño se vién laborando, pláticas en fueros, certámenes lleterarios, juntamentos llengüísticos, alboroques del dialeuto…D´hasta ambunas presonas han proponío qui se reconosca´l uficialmente, pa los cualos quián aprendel-lo ansina puán hacel-lo.

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What Language Is This?

The Language in Question

Obviously this is Romance and if you have been paying attention lately, you can probably figure out where in the Romance lands it is spoken. There are also some clues in there for those of you who are slow. It is talking about a language, but the language it is discussing is actually another language that is also spoken in this same area.

This language is very large, and it has many speakers, certainly in the millions. If you look closely, you will notice that it looks like a combination of two of the largest Romance languages of them all.

Believe it or not, this is actually the official language of a country! Most people do not know that. This language is spoken mostly in one country, and that is the one most associate it with. But it also spoken across the border in a neighboring country. In addition, there is a outlying dialect spoken on a nearby island in a large sea that is part of a third country. So this language is spoken in three different countries.

The Most Closely Related Language

It is closest to another Romance language, but most do not realize that. In fact, it is best to put it into a branch of Romance which is made up of this language and the other language. The other language is spoken for most part right next door, where it has the most speakers. It is also spoken by about 4,000 people in the main country where this language is spoken. In addition, it is also spoken in another country a bit of a ways away in some valleys in the high mountains along the border that are named after this language.

It is also spoken in a very tiny country along the coast of that large sea, but most folks do not know this. At any rate, that nice dialect is dying out, but most folks would recognize the moniker.

This language is associated with the troubadours. It has a huge number of speakers, possibly 10 million, but nevertheless it is not doing nearly as as this language here.

Go to it!

Llengua parlada al regne de i al de). És el resultat autòcton de l’evolució del llatí que es parlava a cavall de la serralada en temps de l’Imperi Romà.

A mesura que, al llarg de l’edat mitjana, el regne de s’anava estenent cap al sud a costa dels musulmans, que havien ocupat una gran part de la península Ibèrica al Segle: VIII, també s’anava escampant la seva llengua, l’àrea de la qual va arribar a incloure. Aquesta es va escriure a l’època medieval – el primer text que se’n conserva data del segle: X-, però ja a partir del s XIII, amb la unió del regne de amb, hegemònic políticament, va haver de competir amb el, i no solament en el terreny de l’escriptura, sinó també en el de l’expressió oral.

Al final de l’edat mitjana, la llengua de les ciutats i, doncs, únic vehicle de la literartura i la documentació administrativa, era ja la. Des d’aleshores el va restar subordinat a aquesta com a simple dialecte, fet afavorit per la semblança estructural entre totes dues llengües, i la classe alta el va abandonar.

Amb tot,des del s XVII ha tingut, principalment a, un cert conreu literari.

Avui dia, ocupa tot l’antic domini llingüístic un continu de varietats que van des de parlars en què es conserven certs trets, sobretot a l’est i al sud, fins a parlars relativament poc.

Aquests darrers, utilitzats sols en zones rurals i desprestigiats, han retrocedit constanment de manera acelerada al sXX cap a l’oest, i on avui es conserven més és a. A més els parlants que habiten cada àrea no són pas homogenis, sinó que els més reduïts, que, en general, són els més joves, fan servir menys formes que els altres.

També s’utilitzen varietats mixtes (a anomenades amestáos) en què es barregen elements i. Ens trobem, donc, davant un sistema lingüístic en descomposició, sense coherencia, els límits geogràfics del qual fan de mal establir. Per això, es pot afirmar tant que l’extensió real del, davant el procés de en curs i deixant de banda a, és encara menor que el que indiquen la majoria de descripcions, com que s’han de classificar com a varietats d’aquest idioma, tenint en compte la presència de certs fenòmens llingüístics, determinats parlars de la provincia de o molt pròxims al.

El territori de la llengua més extens, on hi ha més parlants de l’idioma i on encara es conserva una vitalitat més gran. Aquests factors van determinar que en la dècada de 1970 hi nasqués l’actual moviment de reivindicació llingüística, que persegueix, en primer lloc, el reconeixement que la llengua del país, en general anomenada, és una llengua autònoma.

En segon lloc, la creació d’una varietat estàndard pròpia, i, en tercer lloc, la promoció d’aquesta varietat en tots els àmbits de la vida com a única manera que la llengua visqui. Pel que fa el primer objectiu, la idea de l’autonomia llingüística de la llengua és socialment cada cop més aceptada.

Quant al segon, es pot dir que ja existeix, embastat, un estàndard, i, en relació amb el tercer, avui la llengua comença a tenir presència a l’escola, en la premsa i la ràdio, en la produció editorial i en la retolació pública. Actualment, sectors socials amplis reclamen un reconeixement legal de l’idioma que vagi més enllà de la protecció i del foment de què parla l’Estatut.

Tot i això, l’ continua sent a, com a la resta del domini llingüístic, una llengua en perill de ser dubstituïda: no tothom el transmet als fills, hi abunden les interferències i a les ciutats hi ha una considerable immigració. D’altra banda, l’exemple de recuperació lingüística ha estat seguit, molt més tímidament, per altres regions de parla i , tant a com, sobretot, a, hi ha un cert desvetllament pel que fa a la llengua, amb associacions, agrupacions de joves que promouen i que mantenen la llengua-, cursos per a adults, etc.-

En el  es distinguiesen tres blocs dialectals. A més de tenir els trets generals de les llengües romàniques, el, en la varietat estàndard.

Ees caracteritza per l’existència de nomes cinc vocals les mateixes que hi ha en el i de 21 consonants, entre les quals es troben [-0-] i,molt rarament, [x], però no [v] ni les sibilants sonores ([z] i [3]); per la conservació de la [f] inicial llatina; pel fet que els mots acabats en [a] adopten en plural la desinencia -es; per l’existència d’un article neutre anàleg al del.

Per personals de tercera persona i els adjectius (tant qualificatius com determinatius) no anteposats al nom presenten tres gèneres: el masculí i el femení per als noms contables, masculins i femenins respectivament, i el neutre per als noms incomptables de tots dos gèneres. En el lèxic, de base llatina, també hi ha elements prerromans i àrabs. En quant, al, encara no hi ha cap normativa.

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Check Out Furniello Berciano

This is an extremely interesting lect being spoken here. It looks more like Furniello spoken in the Fornela Valley region around where Asturias, Leon and Galicia all come together. The language itself looks something like Berciano, Western Asturian or Eastern Galician.

Here are some of my notes on this language:

Forniellu is spoken in the Fornela Valley in and around the towns of Guimara, Peranzanes, and Transcastro. It is a mixture of Leonese, Asturian, Galician and Castillian. It is probably not intelligible with Galician. It is difficult to place this lect. Formally it is considered to be transitional between Leonese and Galician, but it is more likely to be Leonese transitional to Galician. This is sometimes said to be part of Berciano. Best characterized as Leonese. Intelligibility with Fabieru Berciano speakers from nearby Fabero nine miles to the south is excellent.

The people in this area say that they speak Galician, but the truth is they are really speaking Leonese or Berciano. When Berciano speakers go to Galicia, they are not understood, so Berciano is not a type of Galician.

I was utterly lost with this old lady’s story. I could hear a few words now and then, but it wasn’t enough to figure out what she was talking about. After seven minutes, I did not have the slightest idea of what she was talking about. You are listening to it and thinking, “You know, this really does sound like Spanish…” but then you still can’t seem to make out of a word of it. To my untrained ear, it also seems to sound like some sort of a Portuguese-Spanish mix.

If you can speak Spanish or Portuguese, see how much Furniellu you can understand.

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BD/SM Is Not As Innocent As It Sounds

03 writes:

I agree that prohibition doesn’t work in most cases, but with certain acts involving violence there must be a zero-tolerance policy. Banning rape hasn’t stopped rapists, but it helps ensure they get locked up so they’re not a danger to society.

1) In cases where the porn (or non-filmed BDSM act, as per breath play example) is consensual, it does not qualify as a “violent” act (it might qualify as a dangerous, but bungee jumping and boxing are also dangerous acts).

2) I have no reason to believe that people who watch this “stuff” are a danger to society (at least any more danger than the average person with “vanilla” tastes). There is no evidence suggesting that “violent” porn causes an increase in sex crimes (or any other crimes for that matter).

That isn’t to say that particular porn director in question isn’t a danger (this particular guy seems to have violated the pornstar’s consent, but that hardly means that you can’t have consensual BDSM porn).

3) You exhibit moving goalposts (in previous comment, you insinuated that you can remove demand and cause supply to dry up, not merely lock up some vague “threats to society”).

4) You appear to insist that no woman would willingly participate in acts like that. I think it’s insensitive to masochists on your part.

I dunno, I think BDSM is violent, period. I also think it’s abuse. Most people in BD/SM relationships with a submissive female and a dominant male, well, it’s an abusive relationship. It looks exactly like an abusive relationship looks except for the consensual part. In addition, we are seeing more and more women coming out of these BD/SM relationships badly damaged, and the damage they are suffering looks exactly like the damage we see from an abusive relationship.

As a matter of fact, the one type of porn that is consistently associated with rape and other sex crimes is violent porn. Multiple studies have shown this. What they have not shown is that nonviolent porn causes sex crimes.

I am certain that the group of people who watch BD/SM are more dangerous than your average person, but probably not by a lot. I say this because almost all serial killers who have a taste for porn are really into this BD/SM stuff. Rapists are too. Also a lot of guys into BD/SM porn are very abusive in their relationships with women. Bottom line is if you identify with the S in BD/SM, you like to hurt people. If you are a heterosexual man, that means you are a man who likes to hurt women. What kind of guy is that? A lot of guys who like to hurt women probably never break the law, but that group also includes some very bad criminals. As in some of the worst criminals of them all.

There are indeed women who willingly participate in BD/SM. They are called submissives or more properly masochists.

A lot of people in mental health continue to believe that neither sadism nor masochism are healthy behaviors, and think that people who are like this are not healthy people.

Of course it depends on what you are talking about. Personally I love to spank women, and I have had some girlfriends who were really into it. I do not consider that hardcore BD/SM though.

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Is Romance Mutual Intelligibility Overrated?

Paul S. writes:

I can speak Spanish decently, though I read it better, and that wasn’t a tough read. That being said, I can read Portuguese pretty well too and can’t understand it spoken much at all.

Well try doing research in Portuguese then. I can speak a bit of Portuguese, and I have been trying to read it for some time now. Lately I am doing a lot of research, and much of it is in Spanish. I use translators a lot, but even then I have to go back to the original Spanish. I can do research ok in Spanish, but it is not real easy.

I also run across a lot of Portuguese, Galician and Asturian. Research is quite hard in all of these. I am having an extremely hard time reading Portuguese, and previously I thought I could read it fairly well. Also I have a friend in Brazil, and she used to send me mails all the time in Portuguese, and honestly, I was pretty lost reading that stuff. I think Spanish-Portuguese written intelligibility is overrated.

I cannot understand much spoken Portuguese either. I watched a clip on Youtube the other day about some city council meeting in a town on the Spanish-Portuguese border, and I could not understand a word they said.

I have a feeling that the oral intelligibility of Romance is also overrated. You hear a lot of anecdotes. Eonavians said that Western Asturians could not understand one word of Eonavian, which is a Western Asturian-Eastern Galician transitional dialect!

Castillian speakers who went to Valencia to live said that after seven years, they still could not understand one word of Valencian and Catalan spoken at normal speed. However, they could understand TV announcers in those lects very well because the announcers used Castillian intonation as opposed to Catalan/Valencian intonation.

Some people from the north of Spain say that they cannot understand a single word of the hard Andalucian spoken on the streets of the big cities.

Commenter James Schipper lived in Brazil for years and is fluid in Portuguese. However, he only understood 40% of the strange lect spoken in Hermisende, Zamora, in Spain. Linguists say that this is a Galician dialect with heavy Portuguese influence and significant Leonese influences. On some linguistic maps, it is colored as a Portuguese dialect.

He was also able to understand only 25% of Alistano Leonese.

And we haven’t even left the Iberian Peninsula yet!

A while back, in a large city in northern Italy, an old woman had become lost. They took her into the police station and she was chattering away for a few hours. They kept asking her questions but she did not understand them as she didn’t speak Standard Italian. People had all sorts of theories on where she was from. Some thought Greece, and there were many other guesses. Finally a worker came in who was familiar with the strange Western Lombard dialect from the high northern Italian mountains that she spoke. The old lady and the cops all spoke a Northern Italian dialect, and none of them could understand the old lady.

On the border of France and Italy in and around the city of Menton near Nice, a lect called Mentonasque is spoken. It is close to the old language of Nizzard spoken in Nice. This is an Occitan-Ligurian transitional dialect, a halfway between Maritime Provencal Occitan spoken in France and Ligurian spoken in Italy. Nevertheless, Mentonasque speakers say that they cannot understand a word of the Ligurian spoken in Italy. And linguists now see Mentonasque as a Ligurian dialect!

One would think that if these languages were that close, one could learn one or another of them pretty easily. To some extent this is true, but not to the extent of dialects of a single tongue or very closely related languages where you can adjust fairly easy over a period of 1 hour-3 weeks.

For instance, in Asturias, there are many Castillian speakers who have been living there for some time who simply state that they cannot understand Asturian. If they were really so close, one would think they would have picked it up easily over the years.

Down in the Bierzo zone transitional between the Leonese and Galician languages, there are Castillian speakers who have been living there for years who cannot understand Leonese, Galician or Berciano. With languages like that being spoken around them all the time, one would think they would have picked up them easily over the years.

The truth is that these languages are not as close as they seem, and much has to do with intonation as the example of the Castillian speaker living in Valencia indicates. In addition, one way to tell that you are dealing with a separate language and not a dialect of a single tongue is that the other language doesn’t necessarily get easier to understand the more you hear it. The factor of motivation cannot be ruled out. The Castillian speakers above who cannot understand Galician, Leonese, Berciano, Asturian, Valencian, Catalan or Andalucian have obviously never taken the time to try to learn the language. They simply cannot be bothered. If people do not want to try to learn a language, even a very closely related one spoken around them all the time, they simply will not learn it.

It is said that after 2-3 months of close contact, a Castillian speaker can pick up Aragonese, Catalan, Asturian, Leonese or Galician. But that is if one is sufficiently motivated. The powerful variable of motivation in language learning cannot be underestimated.

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